All I can say is Congrats to all you Liberals out there. I'm not going to mention any names, because there are a lot of you, and don't want to leave anyone out!!

I think a lot of people voted for Whitehouse while holding their nose.

It's not liberals though...Across the country there are a lot of high-quality moderate Dems running, which should help Congress a lot.

Our Government is currently broken, tonight if the trend continues we will go a long way to fixing it. The people will benefit as a result.

-spence

has become the average American and has turned Commie :wave:

I am not happy with the out come of our Gov. race,

me too bob, the guy reminds me a little of Chris Collins from NECN Sports Late Night :laughs:

and how can anyone keep a straight face and have voted for uncle Ted again for 6 more years? :yak: I hope that's it for him

I hope my tax money doesn't pay for any illeagal imigrants anything:whackin: , make them go away and enter leagally the right way, then follow the laws we have to also. I'm sick of this softness, times are hard and it's time to get tough. Take care of Americans first. I love my country, I want it back.

so now we get ready to get taxed to death :(

Send them all to Cambridge, they like illeagal imigrants there.

We will be back to giving the lazy a free ride

:hidin:

has become the average American and has turned Commie :wave:


This election was not a support if Liberal ideas. This was a clear message about Iraq, and the conservative base being pissed on wide range of issues.

This ass whuppin' should send a clear message to republicans to get thier acts together on the issues the Rep base cares about. Its prob a blessing in disguise for them. Because after 2 years of Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the house, The American people will see what the Left has to offer, NOTHING! :laugha:

And i can't wait for my Taxes to go up. Charlie Rengel already has plans to repeal ALL the Bush tax cuts. Thanks Dems! I just cant wait to send you my hard earned money!

I am not happy with the out come of our Gov. race,

Yeah Deval sucks, none of the canditates really got me excited. I voted for Healy, but she was nothing special either.

Not a good day for ol' Skippy :jester:

Time to move forward and give these elected officials a chance. This was a shift of the middle (and then some) . Time to see if many of these new elected officials can screw up less than those they replaced.

I guess people are ready for a change!!!
Mickey Mouse could have run and won!!!!
:bl2: :bl2: :bl2:

I am not happy with the out come of our Gov. race,

If you want to be really honest about it...

Female mormon sympathizer vs. black guy.

I'll vote for the black guy any day.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i113/lazergunpewpew/ma.jpg

A miniority
Beat the minority

BWAH! :bshake:

Well 16 years of do nothing goveners the people of our state were looking for a change, but I myself do not like the look of things to come, more taxes and flip flop answers. I just don't get what they see in devail, he seems very shadey to me. If I would have voted for Cristy Manhole but that would have been a throw away vote. At least Healy was on the sportsmans side of the issues

Time to move forward and give these elected officials a chance. This was a shift of the middle (and then some) . Time to see if many of these new elected officials can screw up less than those they replaced.


Now the preasure is ALL on the Dems. They must deliver. They've made a million promises. So they have some high expectations.

Wait till America see's the crap Nancy Pelosi and the house is gonna try and pass. A San Fran Liberal in control of the House :err:

Well 16 years of do nothing goveners the people of our state were looking for a change, but I myself do not like the look of things to come, more taxes and flip flop answers. I just don't get what they see in devail, he seems very shadey to me. If I would have voted for Cristy Manhole but that would have been a throw away vote. At least Healy was on the sportsmans side of the issues

Wait a minute....You're sitting here complaining already and you never even voted yesterday??? :huh:

If you want to be really honest about it...

Female mormon sympathizer vs. black guy.

I'll vote for the black guy any day.

good to see your focused on the issues

good to see your focused on the issues
Unfortunately that's how most people vote :smash:

But I think it was a joke.

-spence

and it should be you're not your
Im slipping

Unfortunately that's how most people vote :smash:

But I think it was a joke.

-spence

Spence is right.

On both accounts.

????

Keep your eyes open...THE SENATE RACE ISN'T OVER

-spence

Deval's position on illegal immigration alone should have been enough to keep him out. There is no question that your taxes will contribute to increased illegal immigration incentive to Massachusetts based on in-state tuition offerings alone never mind the preference affirmative actions automatically give illegals in the admission process. We wont even get into the Drivers License thing.

Wait a minute....You're sitting here complaining already and you never even voted yesterday??? :huh:


Sorry Skip, I always vote and wouldn't have missed this one for anything

From a CNN article on Pelosi - my comments in parenthesis

So what will be on the agenda come January? Pelosi has said that in the first 100 hours of her speakership she will push for action implementing all 9/11 Commission recommendations on national security (ok - good thing), raising the minimum wage to $7.25 (which will be pushed back to consumers, bad for me). eliminating corporate subsidies for oil companies (not sure what this entials, but my gut is that somehow the cost will be pushed back on me, so bad for me), allowing the government to negotiate Medicare drug prices (same as prior comment), imposing new restrictions on lobbyists (ok with me), cutting interest rates on college loans (who is paying for that, most likely me) and supporting embryonic stem-cell research (dont care).

And what about the persnickety allegation that she will skipper tax hikes through the House? Sure she will, said the shoo-in speaker.

"We will revisit the tax cuts at the high end in order to give tax cuts to the middle class," she said. (BS - that tax cuts that went through benefit ALL of us, it benefits those that pay more, more than those that pay less. What you'll do is promise to benefit the middle class, but just repeal the cuts and use the $ to fund the things above whihc are going to cost me!!!!!)

Think outside of the box a bit...it's pretty easy to flip all those comments around and show the positive side.

But please, if you're going to tell me that reducing corporate regulation and encouraging free market competition in Pharma is a bad thing because we need corporate welfare to encourage business innovation...

Then I really have no idea what economic model you stand for :cputin:

-spence

Sorry Skip, I always vote and wouldn't have missed this one for anything

Ok cool, the way you worded your last post made it sound like you didnt vote. Glad you did. My bad

NEWSFLASH: RUMMY RESIGNS

-spence

Ok here's my question regarding a minimum wage hike. If the rate goes up say $2 an hour for the new minimum wage, will my employer suddenly hike my pay as well? I mean, if the guy sweeping floors at my place is getting an extra $2 an hour, so why should'nt a skilled employee like myself get an extra $2 an hour in my pay also?? :huh:

Ok here's my question regarding a minimum wage hike. If the rate goes up say $2 an hour for the new minimum wage, will my employer suddenly hike my pay as well? I mean, if the guy sweeping floors at my place is getting an extra $2 an hour, so why should'nt a skilled employee like myself get an extra $2 an hour in my pay also?? :huh:
It would depend on how far you were from the min wage today, and what kind of pressure your employer would have to be able to retain or attract a skilled employee like yourself.

If you were already a few bucks above it, I'd say you would probably see a bump or easily be able to bargin for one. If you were earning 30 bucks an hour I doubt it would have much short-term impact.

As an aside. Most of the non-partisan groups I've read who have studied the issue think the doom and gloom is mostly bunk.

-spence

NEWSFLASH: RUMMY RESIGNS

-spence

Kinda saw this coming, the guys on Foxnews last night were predicting this would happen.

Wonder who will replace him??

NEWSFLASH: RUMMY RESIGNS

-spence

I was gonna say "link or its not happening" but I just went to every news site on the web.

Its true.

Its really true.

It would depend on how far you were from the min wage today, and what kind of pressure your employer would have to be able to retain or attract a skilled employee like yourself.

If you were already a few bucks above it, I'd say you would probably see a bump or easily be able to bargin for one. If you were earning 30 bucks an hour I doubt it would have much short-term impact.

-spence


I'm certainly well above the Minimum wage, so its not like this would affect me. But i can just see a ton of employess being pissed off, seeing the guys with little to noskills getting a $2hr raise, and the rest of the skilled guys getting squat.

This could backfire on employers is my point i guess.

It would be phased in over time, not a huge jump. Additionally I believe their desire is to tie the Federal min wage to the inflation rate, which may make some sense.

It certainly may cause some issues, but it seems to me if you're going to have a Federal Minimum Wage, you might as well do it in a manner that delivers on the original intent.

-spence

Then i appluad the Dems victory, Rumsfeld needs to go, if it tool losing to get it done, im fine with that

From a CNN article on Pelosi - my comments in parenthesis


"We will revisit the tax cuts at the high end in order to give tax cuts to the middle class," she said.

I guess the million dollar question is what is their definition of the "high end"?

$150,000 in the Northeast, or California, isn't the same as $150,000 in other places. And I'm betting "high end" is going to be pegged at less than that :humpty:

good to see your focused on the issues

:cheers:

NEWSFLASH: RUMMY RESIGNS

-spence

:jump:

You guys really think there is a difference between one jack-a$$ and another jack-a$$??:huh: I do not!:rollem:

You guys really think there is a difference between one jack-a$$ and another jack-a$$??:huh: I do not!:rollem:

The difference is, Gates actually knows what he's talking about.
Rumsfeld... not so much...

Skip what I ment is, if Christy M. had a better chance to win he would of had my vote. I reread it and it did seem like I did or didn't

remember I voted for it before I voted against it :bshake:

I am from Mass. and just heard last nite that the State of Mass. is running a DEFICIT!!!
What happened to all that SURPLUS money the State had???
2 years ago there was a huge SURPLUS, so I thougt!!!
Maybe Romney took it for his Presidential Aspirations???
:err: :err: :err:

How the hell does Ted Kennedy get relected every time???
I Don't know of any one who likes the drunken peice of shhiet !!!
And most people i think would like to see him drive his car off another bridge and kill himself instead of another Mary Joe !!!

How the hell does Ted Kennedy get relected every time???
I Don't know of any one who likes the drunken peice of shhiet !!!
And most people i think would like to see him drive his car off another bridge and kill himself instead of another Mary Joe !!!


?
He gets re-elected just because of the name. Conditioned response. Election=drunken Kennedy.
Kind of like when you tease a dog.
Hold up a treat; they drool.
Say "election" way too many people in this state just think "kennedy"
I think un-convicted felon.
It is a felony to leave the scene of an accident with injury in MA.
At least for the rest of us peasants.

He does have much experience and is very knowledgeable.

He is also the brunt of all Kennedey angst....tough job but as a long time veteran he is up to it.

say what you will... :hidin:

I can't get away from the freakin Kennedys. I've had Ted as my Senator here in in MA, and now i'm moving to RI in a couple weeks and i found out Patrick freakin Kennedy will be mynew congressman. WTF!!!!??? :laugha:

It doesnt matter how much they suck, people see the name Kennedy and just vote for em i guess :huh:

I can't get away from the freakin Kennedys. I've had Ted as my Senator here in in MA, and now i'm moving to RI in a couple weeks and i found out Patrick freakin Kennedy will be mynew congressman. WTF!!!!??? :laugha:

It doesnt matter how much they suck, people see the name Kennedy and just vote for em i guess :huh:


Awwww Sheeeeeit - you're coming to RI :bsod: :rocketem: :pop: :huh: :tooth: ? :hihi:

Seriously - where are you moving to?

It's not liberals though...Across the country there are a lot of high-quality moderate Dems running, which should help Congress a lot.

On paper it certainly appears that way. On that count I am somewhat hopeful.

One thing I am concerned about is the Dem leadership, particularly in the House. Speaker Pelosi is no moderate and she has been stewing for quite some time to push her leftist agenda.

They may have taken the approach of campaigning from the center-right, but may vote left while in office.

I ask: to what extent will these relative (d) newcomers, who appear to be more conservative than even some of their (r) predecessors, buckle to party discipline when the hot-button issues are decided?

This election was a referendum on the Iraq war and President Bush. But have Americans, in their fit of indignation, let the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& cat out of the bag? (apologies to cat owners).

We shall see.

In any event, it will be interesting to see how the dems fare when the economy tanks, as it is poised to do so now (all the leading GDP indicators I track have been headed SOUTH since June). Will Americans blame it on the President, or will Congress get blamed too? Will proposed minimum wage legislation and higher taxes nudge the economy sooner into recession?

It's the economy, stupid, right?

sort of a side thought, heard this on the radio yesterday,
isnt it amazing that ALL the voting issues, minorities being left out, faulty machines, etc. were FIXED in just 2 years? Wow....Im sure it has nothing to do with the dems winning

A perfect exasmple why I do done like libs

sort of a side thought, heard this on the radio yesterday,
isnt it amazing that ALL the voting issues, minorities being left out, faulty machines, etc. were FIXED in just 2 years? Wow....Im sure it has nothing to do with the dems winning

A perfect exasmple why I do done like libs

So much for their Diebold conspiracy Theory.

isnt it amazing that ALL the voting issues, minorities being left out, faulty machines, etc. were FIXED in just 2 years? Wow....Im sure it has nothing to do with the dems winning
I think you're misreading the situation. There were still plenty of reports of voting problems and potential fraud.

It's an off year election for one and the Dem victory in the House was pretty clear cut though...the outrage has more been over close races with suspect results in big elections.

-spence

So much for their Diebold conspiracy Theory.
Considering how the GOP has demonized the Dems the past decade, how are you going to spin it if they continue to have mainstream appeal?

-spence

I think you're misreading the situation. There were still plenty of reports of voting problems and potential fraud.

It's an off year election for one and the Dem victory in the House was pretty clear cut though...the outrage has more been over close races with suspect results in big elections.

-spence

Spence, if it was turned around and the repubs won with the ame %s, you'd have Al Sharpton on CNN complaining that minorities couldnt vote, you'd have accusations of fraud, broken machines etc. There is NO way you can argue that.

Spence, if it was turned around and the repubs won with the ame %s, you'd have Al Sharpton on CNN complaining that minorities couldnt vote, you'd have accusations of fraud, broken machines etc. There is NO way you can argue that.
Don't agree.

If this was a close race I think you'd see that behavior from either side...the last few Presidential elections were very close. And while I wouldn't say there was wholesale fraud, there are some serious unresolved claims from 2004.

Had the GOP managed to dramatically increase their position the Dems would have blamed Kerry and gone away.

-spence

Will Americans blame it on the President, or will Congress get blamed too? Will proposed minimum wage legislation and higher taxes nudge the economy sooner into recession?

It's the economy, stupid, right?

No kidding. Wendy's just announced they will outsource the guy that takes the drive thru order to India. I can't imagine that many businesses like that will survive a $2/hr increase in minimum wage. Bump it up $2 and we'll have to build a freakin moat with gators to go with that wall.

Considering how the GOP has demonized the Dems the past decade, how are you going to spin it if they continue to have mainstream appeal?

-spence

I dont think it was Republicans who fabricated the Diebold Conspiracy.

I dont think it was Republicans who fabricated the Diebold Conspiracy.
Neither did the Democratic party. It was a few left-wing nuts...who's only audience would be Nebe were it not for Rush Limbaugh and his clones trying to strip the American flag of it's blue stripes in the name of big advertising revenues.

It was the GOP that branded a vote for Democrats as a vote for terrorisim.

I guess the people didn't get the memo :)

-spence

Neither did the Democratic party. It was a few left-wing nuts...who's only audience would be Nebe were it not for Rush Limbaugh and his clones trying to strip the American flag of it's blue stripes in the name of big advertising revenues.

It was the GOP that branded a vote for Democrats as a vote for terrorisim.

I guess the people didn't get the memo :)

-spence

My Bad. I just assumed those far left wing nuts were Democrats.:rollem:

Since when does our flag have blue stripes?

Since when does our flag have blue stripes?

:laugha: because white striped didn't fit the metaphor :)

-spence

My Bad. I just assumed those far left wing nuts were Democrats.:rollem:
Don't do it again...

-spence

Awwww Sheeeeeit - you're coming to RI :bsod: :rocketem: :pop: :huh: :tooth: ? :hihi:

Seriously - where are you moving to?

I'm just moving to a new apartment in Cumberland. I guess i'm a Rhode Islanda for now. At least you guys have an ok governer. So it shouldnt be all that bad for me. I hope! :bl:

Say "election" way too many people in this state just think "kennedy"
I think un-convicted felon.
It is a felony to leave the scene of an accident with injury in MA.
At least for the rest of us peasants.

You're right, you're all peasants and mindless worker drones who spat out the same tired rhetoric over and over again.

See the fact of the matter is, the MAJORITY in this state thinks that Ted Kennedy is doing a good job. If they didn't they'd vote for WHOEVER the other candidate was.

Other than the bridge and driving off it do you even know ANYTHING about Ted Kennedy at ALL? Or do you just let the news educate you?

This is exactly what is wrong with the system and the media.
You sit infront of the boob tube and expect it to inform you "fair and balanced" and never actually bother to learn anything about anything or anyone on your own.

Get out and get some new material already. I somehow doubt you will though.

You're right, you're all peasants and mindless worker drones who spat out the same tired rhetoric over and over again.

See the fact of the matter is, the MAJORITY in this state thinks that Ted Kennedy is doing a good job. If they didn't they'd vote for WHOEVER the other candidate was.

Other than the bridge and driving off it do you even know ANYTHING about Ted Kennedy at ALL? Or do you just let the news educate you?

This is exactly what is wrong with the system and the media.
You sit infront of the boob tube and expect it to inform you "fair and balanced" and never actually bother to learn anything about anything or anyone on your own.

Get out and get some new material already. I somehow doubt you will though.

So tell us where you acquire your insight into Ted Kennedy. Keep in mind you have already discounted "Media" as an acceptable answer.

So tell us where you acquire your insight into Ted Kennedy. Keep in mind you have already discounted "Media" as an acceptable answer.

Howabout this, why don't you actually come up with something other than "lololol he killed someone" why he's a terrible politician?

Guess what Rumsfeld and Bush are responsible for roughly 655,000 dead.
They're responsible for 2800 dead US soldiers!

And you probably voted for them.

One dead girl vs 600someoddthousand.
I'll take the one death on my ballot thanks.

Howabout this, why don't you actually come up with something other than "lololol he killed someone" why he's a terrible politician?

Guess what Rumsfeld and Bush are responsible for roughly 655,000 dead.
They're responsible for 2800 dead US soldiers!

And you probably voted for them.

One dead girl vs 600someoddthousand.
I'll take the one death on my ballot thanks.

Nope didnt vote for Rumsfeld. But I'm still waiting for an answer to the question I asked.

Nope didnt vote for Rumsfeld. But I'm still waiting for an answer to the question I asked.


Give him some time will ya, it takes awhile to find something possitive that Ted Kennedy has done! :rotfl:

Howabout this, why don't you actually come up with something other than "lololol he killed someone" why he's a terrible politician?

Guess what Rumsfeld and Bush are responsible for roughly 655,000 dead.
They're responsible for 2800 dead US soldiers!

And you probably voted for them.

One dead girl vs 600someoddthousand.
I'll take the one death on my ballot thanks.

I didnt realize Bush killed our 2800 soldiers, I always thought the terrrorsts/radcials in Iraq were responsible for that?

I need to visit moveon.org more often to get the real truth....:doh:

It's just pent up rage Skippy.

Bush didn't kill them, but the policy makers that guided their mission were incompetent.

-spence

[QUOTE=spence;432058]It's just pent up rage Skippy.

Bush didn't kill them, but the policy makers that guided their mission were incompetent.

-spence[/QUOTE

It's fine to say what you're saying, I have no issue with you saying that, but to imply that Bush killed 600,000 people and 2800 American soldiers is sickening, flat out sickening. But thats Likwid for ya i guess :doh:

Its like blaming FDR for killing nearly 300,000 Americans in WWII, and blaming him for the millions of Germans and Japaneese killed during the war.

Some people just like to blame America and make us look like the war mongers, like the Bush administration enjoys going out and killing civilians. They think we are only in Iraq to slaughter innocent people. I will never understand the the thinking of some people.

I will never understand the the thinking of some people.





:devil2:

knock knock is this thing on hello hello can you hear me out there .

OK thank you very much

Give him some time will ya, it takes awhile to find something possitive that Ted Kennedy has done! :rotfl:

He gave Patrick to our neighbors to the west? :D

On a serious note--I can tell you one thing he has done in recent years. Without a lot of publicity or fanfare, he's attended quite a few burial services at Arlington, for troops KIA in Iraq.

Just in the interest of being fair and balanced. ;)