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ProfessorM
11-17-2006, 12:35 PM
I am considering a new computer before the end of the year. The unit I am considering is a Dell and comes with a Dual Core processor. I know it is kind of new. If or why are they better than say a Pentium4? Tell me in easy terms as I am not a computer expert. Thanks P.

The Dad Fisherman
11-17-2006, 12:59 PM
In laymans terms its basically 2 processors in one...like getting 2 pentium 4 processors.

The Dad Fisherman
11-17-2006, 01:23 PM
And for the Non-laymen

A dual core processor is a CPU with two separate cores on the same die, each with its own cache. It's the equivalent of getting two microprocessors in one.

In a single-core or traditional processor the CPU is fed strings of instructions it must order, execute, then selectively store in its cache for quick retrieval. When data outside the cache is required, it is retrieved through the system bus from random access memory (RAM) or from storage devices. Accessing these slows down performance to the maximum speed the bus, RAM or storage device will allow, which is far slower than the speed of the CPU. The situation is compounded when multi-tasking. In this case the processor must switch back and forth between two or more sets of data streams and programs. CPU resources are depleted and performance suffers.

In a dual core processor each core handles incoming data strings simultaneously to improve efficiency. Just as two heads are better than one, so are two hands. Now when one is executing the other can be accessing the system bus or executing its own code. Adding to this favorable scenario, both AMD and Intel's dual-core flagships are 64-bit.

To utilize a dual core processor, the operating system must be able to recognize multi-threading and the software must have simultaneous multi-threading technology (SMT) written into its code. SMT enables parallel multi-threading wherein the cores are served multi-threaded instructions in parallel. Without SMT the software will only recognize one core. Adobe Photoshop is an example of SMT-aware software. SMT is also used with multi-processor systems common to servers.

A dual core processor is different from a multi-processor system. In the latter there are two separate CPUs with their own resources. In the former, resources are shared and the cores reside on the same chip. A multi-processor system is faster than a system with a dual core processor, while a dual core system is faster than a single-core system, all else being equal.

An attractive value of dual core processors is that they do not require a new motherboard, but can be used in existing boards that feature the correct socket. For the average user the difference in performance will be most noticeable in multi-tasking until more software is SMT aware. Servers running multiple dual core processors will see an appreciable increase in performance.

ProfessorM
11-17-2006, 02:04 PM
Thank you for the info. So what would you do if you were to get a new comp.. Get the dual core or the single Pentium 4 chip? I know it probably boils down to what my wife and I use the thing for but I am looking for an educated opinion. Hell I am still using windows 98 so anything is going to be an upgrade but I don't want to spend more than I have to for something I may never use. I don't do any gameing and do like to rip and burn music and photos and stuff and of course the internet and e-mail. My wife does run a few home buisness's using the computer too. I want something reliable and faster than what I got. Thanks for the insight.

The Dad Fisherman
11-17-2006, 02:22 PM
Whats the price difference?

I'm an IT guy....so I always want more power.

ProfessorM
11-17-2006, 03:09 PM
http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/cto_dimene520?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

I am thinking of the one second from right. Not that much more than the pentium 4. The ones on the left I think would be over kill for me.

Backbeach Jake
11-17-2006, 08:16 PM
They're overkill for about 6 months after a year they're stoneage. Well they are everytime I buy one.

likwid
11-18-2006, 09:44 AM
Howabout this....

What do you do on the computer?
And what do you WANT to do with it?

ProfessorM
11-18-2006, 05:54 PM
Howabout this....

What do you do on the computer?
And what do you WANT to do with it?

Wife runs 2 side buisness's needs to run 2 different company programs, Internet stuff. Music- rip and burning, photos, paint shop pro, some photo and music storage. That is about it. P.

likwid
11-19-2006, 10:27 AM
Wife runs 2 side buisness's needs to run 2 different company programs, Internet stuff. Music- rip and burning, photos, paint shop pro, some photo and music storage. That is about it. P.

So you need a couple boring programs, probably quickbooks or ACT or something of that nature, and just the usual internet/playing with photos?

I'd say that Dell you picked out was perfect.
Throw in a 200-300gig external drive and you're good to go!

ProfessorM
11-19-2006, 04:21 PM
So you need a couple boring programs, probably quickbooks or ACT or something of that nature, and just the usual internet/playing with photos?

I'd say that Dell you picked out was perfect.
Throw in a 200-300gig external drive and you're good to go!

Thanks. I am ordering it after Thanksgiving to see if there are any deals. P.

vineyardblues
11-19-2006, 07:28 PM
Proff, I Tossed out two laptops yesterday.
One with Win 95 the other had NT 4.0
:rotf2: :rotf2: :rotf2: :rotf2: :rotf2:
VB