View Full Version : Plug color importance?


Canalman
11-22-2006, 03:45 PM
I’m interested to know what people’s take on plug color is. Being a builder I love to go crazy making super detailed colors that take 12 different colors, all custom mixed, but then when I actually go out to throw plugs I tend to lean on just a few colors. Dave and I are looking at redoing our color lineup and wondering what you guys consider important. It’s obviously important to have your White, White/Pink, Yellow/White, Blurple. And I like to use Bunker and Herring Patterns. Is it better to have ones that resemble every baitfish in the world? Is it important to have a few variations of the staple baits, like a Silvery Bunker, a Greenish Bunker, A Yellowish Bunker etc. I like the latter better, what do you guys think and which colors/bait patterns are a must? I’m bored here at my real job :eek: give me something to ponder.

-Dave

tattoobob
11-22-2006, 04:22 PM
I think anything dark on top and light bottom is good, black/white, Blk/purple, parrot

spence
11-22-2006, 04:24 PM
I have my own favorite coller called "SPLENCE".

It's like blurple, but you wouldn't understand :)

-spence

luds
11-22-2006, 04:30 PM
Both solid light purple and dark purple needlefish are favorites of mine. I've done well on them and always wonder why I don't see more custom plugs painted that way given the effectiveness of black and purple.

I tend to fish blurple on cloudy nights and around the new moon but have found that a light purple plug is still effective around the half moon. Solid dark and light purple both seems to fish as well as blurple on dark nights.

I also like metal lips and needlefish with a light purple back and baitfish combinations that include a purple hue.

I like purple and it seems to work well :wave:

Canalman
11-22-2006, 04:45 PM
I have my own favorite coller called "SPLENCE".

It's like blurple, but you wouldn't understand :)

-spence

You're probably right :read:

luds
11-22-2006, 04:58 PM
I have my own favorite coller called "SPLENCE".

It's like blurple, but you wouldn't understand :)

-spence

metroblurple?

Ake G
11-22-2006, 05:25 PM
I pick top colors that I can see easily OTW so I can keep track of how I'm working a plug and where it is.I really don't think the fish care. It's probably just a visibility issue with them, as well!

When I'm painting my own,or buying plugs the only colors (other than all white or all black) I fish are White/pink stripe, Lime green over white, Chartreuse over white, hot pink over white.

Yeah, it's fun to "flex my airbrush skills..." but since I'm not interested in selling plugs....

Canalman
11-22-2006, 05:38 PM
metroblurple?

Ok... I'm definatley using that name.

Pete_G
11-22-2006, 06:32 PM
Some days color matters a lot, some days it doesn't much at all. I don't know if I've observed much more then that.

My plug bag these days is mostly white, black, and herring (blue/pink/white) all year long. Black or olive for my soft plastics and that's about it.

Of course, for a contrast, you have DZ's much brighter selection of needles. Neon green, hot pink, etc, as well as basic black and white.

I guess from a plug builder's persepective, it would be tough to offer what everyone wants because everyone has their favorites.

Tagger
11-22-2006, 07:14 PM
Pearl white/chin splash red... covers dusk/dawn
olive/white
blue/white
blurple
yellow/red
Thats the majority of my fishing with most and largest fish on top three.. I noticed profile to be very important in my area Dave . Most fish on small baits 5 1/4" - 6". except for late fall on 8" needles . Slim plugs too.. Not alot of fish on large plugs . Always wonder whats going on everywhere eles. I know if there were more large pogies in my area, like there once was ,my nike would clean up . looks so good in the water ..

Young Salt
11-22-2006, 07:18 PM
i dont care about color too much.......light, dark & contrast

striprman
11-22-2006, 07:28 PM
This is what has worked for me in the canal. Swimmers and pencil/polaris poppers and atom plastics
Spring (herring run)
Silver/white belly and black top
Yellow, Yellow red
black, blue/white
Summer
Polaris in yellow, white, blue/white, blue, mackerel
Pencil in mackerel, yellow, white
Fall
white and pearl swimmers, blue/white pencil/polaris, white and yellow polaris and pencils, mackerel.

Along with jigs and eels

baldwin
11-22-2006, 07:55 PM
White, black, yellow. That covers it when you really get down to it.

snake slinger
11-22-2006, 08:34 PM
black black/purple

ChiefLinesider
11-22-2006, 08:35 PM
I am a fan of bright colors & patterns that reflect light. Alot of my plugs are white & black. But then I have a bunch of neons green/bright yellows etc. which I will throw majority of the time. I dont know what it is but I do well with neon green in just about any condition. Of course I have my thoughts on why it works, but they are just thoughts on a endless quest to find a definitive answer to an impossible question. Why does a color work well? Or is it because that person has confidence in that color and uses it most often?

After you have landed a fish on your favorite white needlefish, you might say, wow I love white needles. But what would have happened if you had thrown a black needle in the same spot & worked it the same way. Was it because that fish was there and was hungry, or because you threw the correct color at the correct time?

Of course you cant prove that because you cant put all those variables back together. Of course this is all too technical, but I enjoy thinking about it.

One of my favorite sayings-
If it aint chartreuse, It aint no use.

tattoobob
11-22-2006, 08:44 PM
I am a fan of bright colors & patterns that reflect light. Alot of my plugs are white & black. But then I have a bunch of neons green/bright yellows etc. which I will throw majority of the time. I dont know what it is but I do well with neon green in just about any condition. Of course I have my thoughts on why it works, but they are just thoughts on a endless quest to find a definitive answer to an impossible question. Why does a color work well? Or is it because that person has confidence in that color and uses it most often?

After you have landed a fish on your favorite white needlefish, you might say, wow I love white needles. But what would have happened if you had thrown a black needle in the same spot & worked it the same way. Was it because that fish was there and was hungry, or because you threw the correct color at the correct time?

Of course you cant prove that because you cant put all those variables back together. Of course this is all too technical, but I enjoy thinking about it.

One of my favorite sayings-
If it aint chartreuse, It aint no use.

What happens when you are standing on a rock and try 4 differnt colors and the fish finally takes the last color, do you say it was waiting for a certain color or is it just sick off that plug passing over it on hits just to chase it away

ChiefLinesider
11-22-2006, 09:01 PM
What happens when you are standing on a rock and try 4 differnt colors and the fish finally takes the last color, do you say it was waiting for a certain color or is it just sick off that plug passing over it on hits just to chase it away

One of my favorite parts of the game.
Questioning

Joe
11-22-2006, 10:07 PM
Black/Purple
All Black
All White
All Yellow
Yellow/White
Olive/White or Olive/Light Gold
Herring
Pogie
White w/Pink Stripe
Squid (seasonal)
Mullet (seasonal)

This is more geared to what sells - there are regional patterns that I don't sell that do well some places. I've tried a bunch of others - but these patterns far outsell most stuff. In wood, chartreuse does not do that well but in plastic (Super Strike) it does real well as does parrot.

jklett
11-22-2006, 11:05 PM
White, black, yellow. That covers it when you really get down to it.

:btu:

Redsoxticket
11-23-2006, 12:21 AM
Glow in the dark color like green amber would be different. There are suid jigs that are effective so why not a plug.

vanstaal
11-23-2006, 04:54 AM
I am a fan of bright colors & patterns that reflect light. Alot of my plugs are white & black. But then I have a bunch of neons green/bright yellows etc. which I will throw majority of the time. I dont know what it is but I do well with neon green in just about any condition. Of course I have my thoughts on why it works, but they are just thoughts on a endless quest to find a definitive answer to an impossible question. Why does a color work well? Or is it because that person has confidence in that color and uses it most often?

After you have landed a fish on your favorite white needlefish, you might say, wow I love white needles. But what would have happened if you had thrown a black needle in the same spot & worked it the same way. Was it because that fish was there and was hungry, or because you threw the correct color at the correct time?

Of course you cant prove that because you cant put all those variables back together. Of course this is all too technical, but I enjoy thinking about it.

One of my favorite sayings-
If it aint chartreuse, It aint no use.
I often ponder the same thing i got this plastic plug it's yellow and orange paid 7.00 for it I killed them with it !! just a thought.

stiff tip
11-23-2006, 06:29 AM
for yrs (earlyer)when i fished the canal . it was any color u wanted as long as its yellow... why ??? because of the schools of pogies in the canal... but if we had a rush of macks through the canal i would switch to that color patten 4 as long as that run lasted ..... multi colors on your plgs are mostly eye candy...to please the user.. gibbs made most plgs 2/3 colors w/ some hi lites.. ask me my fav, colors ...... bl/sil/w....y/sil/ w ....gr /sil w/ verm lines....but best plg 4 me in the canal isssss.... the loaded ...cotton cordell... jazzed up n coated n loaded.... w/ lots of shiney chrome......

BigFish
11-23-2006, 07:01 AM
White, black, silver, yellow and green! Contrasts and shades of gray!

Tagger
11-23-2006, 09:08 AM
Black/Purple
All Black
All White
All Yellow
Yellow/White
Olive/White or Olive/Light Gold
Herring
Pogie
White w/Pink Stripe
Squid (seasonal)
Mullet (seasonal)

This is more geared to what sells - there are regional patterns that I don't sell that do well some places. I've tried a bunch of others - but these patterns far outsell most stuff. In wood, chartreuse does not do that well but in plastic (Super Strike) it does real well as does parrot.

Regional ,,, Reading these boards and talking to different people it seems alot of loyalty to certain plugs/colors is regional . It makes sense different bait in different areas would make this true . Montauk (3 ounce yellow darter),,, Jersey smaller lefty types ,, I don't know why . Most bait shops up north get there pogies from jersey .?? LI NY large wood (7400 surfster size)parrot ? Cape is a hog-pog Maybe a giant 12" jointed CCB type or a bomber.. Canal large yellow or white pencil popper.. North of the canal small stuff seems to be the ticket . 2 ounce max.. Not saying there isn't overlap and you can't catch a fish on another plug.. Maybe its just local loyalty pre-internett before we knew what every one eles was doing .

vineyardblues
11-23-2006, 09:20 AM
A must have is bright ORANGE,,,,, :musc:
Simple but catches
VB

Karl F
11-23-2006, 09:24 AM
You are correct Tagger.. regional.. Hodge Podge for sure.

If you don't have a black/gold a lot of nights on beaches near me, you might as well go home.. pink too..

Commercial builders, I would think would realize that the K.I.S.S. method would be the way to go, paint wise, and shape wise, would be the way to go in the long run.

Redhead yellow
Redhead white
Blurple
Blue/White
Black
Yellow
Mackeral (or Green/Silver, no pattern)
White
Black/Gold
Chrome/Blue

that list works for me, but could prolly be cut down..
leave the fancy stuff for the one of customs...
K.I.S.S. for the production runs.

Striperhound
11-23-2006, 09:25 AM
I do the same mixing colors but there are a few points that can be made.

1st. Crazy color combo's catch fisherman more than they catch fish. Good for selling custom plugs. Although doing color combo's are more fun to paint.

2nd. Every time I pull a plug out of a bag it's white-yellow-black, pogie or herring. 5 simple patterns. I suscribe to the simple notion of K.I.S.S, Keep it simple stupid.

3rd. As your custom plug business grows you will need to keep things simple, more paint and time means more cost.

4th personal preference here but I would rather fish a white plug that catches than a real life replica of a pogie that doesnt.

You guys do have some unique stuff, think innovation and quality while keeping colors simple. :kewl:

bloocrab
11-23-2006, 09:42 AM
Mr. Canalman - If I built plugs for myself, I would make them very detailed and purrrty - mainly because I enjoy art, looking at it or creating it. However, if I'm in it for the profit...I would concentrate on a more hardier plug, I would use fewer colors but better hardware and spend that extra time on a better FINISH. What I find with ALOT of hand-crafted plugs are the durability of the finish. I do not like paying $20 for a plug that shows it's guts on the first outing. The extra time put into multiple colors should be spent on more finish coats. - Fancy color patterns are attractive to the eye, the human eye that is. The quality of a well painted plug will definately sell. Unfortunately, a very detailed plug takes more time which will drive the cost up, which will lower the amount of buyers, but a hardy plug...once proven, will be bought over and over.

Do I think a fish can see the scales that some builders paint on their plugs? ....:hs: ....do I think they're cool looking ? :bounce: YES!
Can they see the variation in multiple color patterns?? I doubt it...
Most baitfish have a white-ish bottom-side regardless of what color their top-side is...most baitfish start to get chased or targeted from below...If you can add 2 + 2 and come up with 4, you'll understand that the ACTION along with the predator-fish being present are the KEY.

Why did yellow work when white didn't? Did you go back to white after catching with yellow? Did you fish it with as much confidence? Sure, I think there's a difference between very dark colors versus very light colors...but colors inbetween appeal more to my eyes than the fishs'...
Just my opinion


**OOPS, walked away without hitting the "reply" button, looks like some others feel like I do - and replied first, sorry for the repetiveness

Swimmer
11-23-2006, 09:44 AM
I like that metroblurple crack, well said.

tlapinski
11-23-2006, 10:01 AM
Solid dark color, solid light color, and a contrast of dark/light. For a while I was too caught up in fancy colors. Now I stick to the basic pattern I just noted. I really think this will cover you on 95% of the scenarios you will run into. Are there times when one color seems to blow away others? Yes, but it is really hard to tell if it is something the user is doing different or if it is actually the color difference. We all have had experiences where we have stood next to guy using the exact same plug but doubles our results. Worry more about presenting plugs properly and at the right time and color will fall a distant 3rd place, IMO. Of course, your results may vary!

JHABS
11-23-2006, 10:48 AM
Always Start with White, White at NIGHT , I'm Sure a few will chime in on this .

luds
11-23-2006, 11:12 AM
Always Start with White, White at NIGHT , I'm Sure a few will chime in on this .

I always start w/ white and or black and purple. There are a few places that Chartreuse or yellow always works well so I usually start with them but that is rare.

rphud
11-23-2006, 12:39 PM
Here' a list of some from people I have had info on from down NJ way:

Smokey Joe (black/silver-gray/white)
Moss Back (dark green/white)
School Bus (black/yellow with black stripes/yellow)
Chicken Scratch (yellow/white)

I noticed two of my favorites from Karl F.: yellow with red head and white with red head (mostly for surface things).

One thing I have been pondering lately is how much the fly guys rely on chartruese over white, and how much they don't match up with lure colors.

NarragansettBil
11-23-2006, 03:57 PM
Neons in the fall:uhuh:

eelman
11-23-2006, 09:53 PM
Solid dark color, solid light color, and a contrast of dark/light. For a while I was too caught up in fancy colors. Now I stick to the basic pattern I just noted. I really think this will cover you on 95% of the scenarios you will run into. Are there times when one color seems to blow away others? Yes, but it is really hard to tell if it is something the user is doing different or if it is actually the color difference. We all have had experiences where we have stood next to guy using the exact same plug but doubles our results. Worry more about presenting plugs properly and at the right time and color will fall a distant 3rd place, IMO. Of course, your results may vary!

Something we agree on toby!...Black or white all you need..Presentation is the most important thing...color is the least...contrast is somewhat important.

The number one thing is presentation.without that the best plug in the world wont catch squat..

Clammer
11-23-2006, 10:02 PM
Something we agree on toby!...Black or white all you need..Presentation is the most important thing...color is the least...contrast is somewhat important.

The number one thing is presentation.without that the best plug in the world wont catch squat..

Like u////know a/t bout %$#@ plugs////J/A

NIB
11-24-2006, 04:02 AM
Most if not all of my plugging is saved for the late season.Clors i do good on i don't see that much of are:
dark blue wit silver sides white belly
smokey grey top lite pink sides white belly.
Black w/hot pink bottom. this is my black an purple like a old bomber blurple.krylon made a perfect match for it in the florescent line.
I see alot of black an dark purple's, no contrast.may as well be black..
Chartreuese an white.
Not a popular northern color but i have done well up there with a swimmer I have made in that color.
I like scale patterns at night also like silver over black.silver over blue.
one of my favorite bottles.
I never thru a parrot colored plug till i fished up north.
I am mostly a natural guy.white, black,Drab green,an yellow..
If u said Tony Pick one.It would be white with a yellow top...or white depends on the plug..
As far as presentation an being out fished there are times when 10 ft to the right or left also makes all the difference in the world.

Canalman
11-27-2006, 10:44 AM
OK that's a good start and for the most part, you guys think the way I do. I have a few variations that I use throughout the the year one in particular is "spent herring"... you know in June when the herring are dropping out of the ponds and they get that yellowy brownish black color? I made plugs to resemble that color this year. With that color I took several 20's and one 32# fish all on a spook, and the guys around me weren't doing nearly the damage I was doing. Was it that I had the mojo working that day or the color?

Thanks for the great response guys... anything else?

Skitterpop
11-27-2006, 12:36 PM
If I could only have one plug / one color it would be pearl white with hints of yellow and pink in it.

Canalman
11-27-2006, 12:50 PM
If I could only have one plug / one color it would be pearl white with hints of yellow and pink in it.

So sort of wonderbreadish

Rockport24
11-27-2006, 01:30 PM
Something we agree on toby!...Black or white all you need..Presentation is the most important thing...color is the least...contrast is somewhat important.

The number one thing is presentation.without that the best plug in the world wont catch squat..

Wow, is it a coincidence that #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& just wrote about this very subject in OTW this month? good article by the way.....

quick decision
11-27-2006, 03:27 PM
I have caught more bass on schoolbus yellow than any other color.

JoeP
11-27-2006, 09:17 PM
Baitfish don't change color at night, and obviously bass feed at night, so I think, whether fishing in day or night, natural colors are the best - olive shades over white shades, brown shades over white shades, silvers, bunker patterns, herring patterns, eel patterns. And most of these involve some shade of olive/brown over white/cream/silver.

And I think adding some pink hues (daytime) and purple hues (night) add some semblance of natural coloration and may also indicate blood/injured fish to predators, triggering aggression.

Now in saying this, I've had some great success on blurple colored plugs & sluggos - so who knows...

I also think, as was said above, that presentation is more important than color, and color is mostly a personal confidence thing. I've been in enough situations where I am using a totally different color from someone else and we are both catching fish.

Skitterpop
11-27-2006, 11:18 PM
So sort of wonderbreadish


Not really.... all pearlescent white with slight under tones of soft yellow and rose pink throughout....not defined as classical wonderbread.


day or night this color rules :musc:

pops
11-27-2006, 11:59 PM
something like this ?

Swimmer
11-28-2006, 12:16 PM
Great article in OTW this month by Charlie Soares on this. Not to mention that our own #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& had another great read this month also. I think most of the colors schemes are to catch our eye and not the fhish's eye. We all agree on this, which is amazing.

Canalman
11-28-2006, 02:59 PM
Skpop, I think I can picture that.

So what I've gotten from this so far is that

#1 Durability is Key
#2 Old Stand By Colors are still reigning supreme
#3 Blurple is preffered over black by most
#4 White and Yellow/White are far and away the most popular
#5 Natural Colors are important, but only suggestions of nature, no need to replicate the olive hues under a herrings eyes while softly replicating the hues from blue to pink to gold on it's body :yak6:.
#6 metroblurple will be in the new color lineup this year.

Anything I missed? Any other suggestions?
-Dave