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Got rid of a wood stove a couple years ago.....(Hope it's working for you by the way). Need heat in the shop. Was looking at one of those propane jobbers that mount to the top of a grill propane tank. Not looking for 70 degree temperatures but something to take the chill out of the shop.....SAFELY. I have a huge bazooka style kerosene heater but am afraid to use it with no ventilation.
Also, I use water base Createx paints so I have NO FUMES.
What do you guys use????....I need some suggestions.
It's a detached one car garage with a small workshop off the side.
BigFish 12-04-2006, 10:39 AM My shop is a detached 1 car also....I have been using a propane bazooka heater, small one....works great! I will be installing a woodstove shortly!
mikecc 12-04-2006, 10:55 AM 2 stall garage lower & Upper, I take the chill out with propane bazooka then use woodstove to maintain the heat
Ake G 12-04-2006, 02:26 PM Consider a Rinnai propane heater (permanent install that vents outside via pipe-in-a-pipe). Not cheap initially,but easy to install yourself. Get a small tank from the gas supplier and you're all set.
Very safe,efficient and cheap to run, it's WELL worth it. It's great to have real heat out there....I practically live out in my shop.
Sounds great but pricey......but not economical at this time. Garage is not insulated. Just wouldn't make sense to spend a lot of $$ on this right now. Eventually the shop will be insulated and be upgraded.
Need safe, cheap, quick heat to last a couple hours, a couple days a week. My spinner is a heated box so the heat is for me, not the work!!
nightprowler 12-04-2006, 09:27 PM my parents have a house on the vineyard that isn't winterized, when i use it in the late fall and early spring i have been using a kerosene heater. i just got it last year, but it worked amazingly well. most of the fall wasn't that bad but that first weekend in november was super cold and that heater kept my girlfriend and i toasty...not that she didn't kee me warm enough:bounce: :bshake:
why are you afraid to use it?
Young Salt 12-04-2006, 09:48 PM mugz i use exactly what you are talking about. Been using it for about three years now and it works fine for me. I go through about 3-4 tanks over the winter.
tattoobob 12-04-2006, 10:03 PM THose work great I use one in the ice fishing shack, and it takes the chill out. I would invest in a couple of rolls of insulation, some staples,and some plastic that would be your best bet.
striperman36 12-04-2006, 10:07 PM Order a 100 lb tank from the propane company. Worth the hassle, that way you won't run out just as you start to spray!!
And leave it outside also, never had a problem with it out there even at 30 below.
my parents have a house on the vineyard that isn't winterized, when i use it in the late fall and early spring i have been using a kerosene heater. i just got it last year, but it worked amazingly well. most of the fall wasn't that bad but that first weekend in november was super cold and that heater kept my girlfriend and i toasty...not that she didn't kee me warm enough:bounce: :bshake:
why are you afraid to use it?
I am worried about fumes with the kerosene heater. It's an older model...but the thing is big (bazooka type). Has wheels. Not sure of the BTU's or what size tank it is....looks like 5+ gallons to me.
Where the hell do I buy kerosene anyways? I think I've seen them in 1 gallon cans at the hardware store.
Maybe I'll clean it this weekend and try to fire it up. I'll bring out my carbon dioxide alarm just in case.
nightprowler 12-05-2006, 10:00 AM there is a gas station near me that has a k-1 kerosene pump. just go and fill-er up when i need. on mv it was $3/gallon, so im sure it is cheaper on the mainland. there is a place here in falmouth that fills them also, im not sure the name though.
nightprowler 12-05-2006, 10:03 AM I also found that with regards to fumes, its all in the adjustment of the wick. i was having nasty smoke and fumes, so i actually read the instructions and it turns out i was burning with to much wick. as the heater warmed up i had to keep decreasing the amount of exposed wick. I never burned it when i was out or when i went to sleep. my girlfriends dad who gave me mine uses one in his basement to supplement his heating, keeps his costs down. he just lights it up and keeps it going all the time. the heat rises up through and warms his floors.
and with regards to cleaning, the instruction manual had a nice section on dry burning the wick and how to clean to get the optimum performance out of the heater.
its amazing what those little manuals can do for ya
just a thought on the use of kerosene heaters .
if any one has respiratory problems , asthma etc ; a kerosene heater can be really harmful !!
i used one for many years , i can't be near one one now with out having breathing difficulties ......
derf
Thanks for the replies.....I will give the one I have a try. It's a garage....so I think it will be fine. If the fumes are bad, I'll sell the thing and buy something else.
Grapenuts 12-05-2006, 12:13 PM If that kero-heater is an older one....even before you look at it,,you best take in and get it tuned up or it will smoke you out and stink like He//..your room will look like the fog came in...
Anyone want to buy a big kerosene heater? I'm going to buy a propane jobber.
Backbeach Jake 12-05-2006, 06:20 PM Consider a Rinnai propane heater (permanent install that vents outside via pipe-in-a-pipe). Not cheap initially,but easy to install yourself. Get a small tank from the gas supplier and you're all set.
Very safe,efficient and cheap to run, it's WELL worth it. It's great to have real heat out there....I practically live out in my shop.
I heat my home in Truro from April 1 to Thanksgiving weekend with Rinnai heaters. Worth every cent.
GattaFish 12-05-2006, 07:29 PM OK, I am new to the site and try not to say much. But having had the symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning I have to say be very careful with Kerosene & Propane in non-ventilated areas no matter how much you think you can do it without a problem. Or think you can shut it off if it starts to bother you. Remember it is colorless, tasteless and ordorless.
If you are lucky enough to or by the time you realize that it is affecting you, it has already pushed carbon monoxide deep into your blood. It attaches itself to the hemoglobin and affects the bloods ability to carry oxygen to the brain, central nervous system and the heart. Some of which takes a long time to leave your body. Some may never leave. This will make your tolerance to CO much less the more you are exposed to it. Granted when you stop or remove the source you will stop the symptoms but if you have kids, pregnant wife or are planning to make babies it is not good for you be around them with those clothes or CO in your blood.
So when you get a headache or start to see signs of Cyanosis (blue lips and fingernails) you have already experienced serious poisoning. Please if you decide to use that type of heat, make sure the unit is cleaned and tuned up, have some ventilation and DEFINITELY get a CO monitor/detector.
BE SAFE
THE FNG
BigFish 12-05-2006, 07:31 PM Good advice!:btu:
Young Salt 12-05-2006, 09:16 PM i have a monoxide detector in the shed, and ive never had it go off with the heater on. I figured the amount of CO comming off it was so small it wasn't a problem....am i wrong? I ve had it on for hours at a time in Jan-Feb without having any symptoms.
Slipknot 12-05-2006, 09:36 PM Youngsalt, you must be smart enough to have some ventilation to let air in and CO out, so maybe that is why the detector hasn't gone off, replace the detector if you have any doubts.
BigFish 12-05-2006, 10:15 PM Youngsalt...your family will be the first notified if you have a problem!:laugha:
If your shed is not insulated and is not what they call "tight" you are surely getting fresh air through the cracks as is the co2 escaping.
Bought one these at Homey's last night........only had one burner on for half hour last night. The thing burns sweet. Will bring out the CO2 detector when I use it for an hour or more. The CO2 is definitely what scares me. Saw these online for anywhere between $85 and $125.......it was only $78 at Homey's. 45,000 BTU.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f25/Mugolator/30_R_small.jpg
Anyone want to buy the big a$$ kerosene heater I have.....I'll put it in the classifieds.
BigFish 12-06-2006, 08:33 AM Is that a heated element? Make sure you watch the sawdust...airborn sawdust is flammable and will explode! Always use dust collection with most heat sources.
Thanks for the heads up.....
It's works kind of like a camping lantern...I think. It has a mesh element that glows......so yes, I guess it is considered an element.
Kadywampus 12-06-2006, 11:28 AM One other thing to keep in mind when using keroseen is that as it burns it produces water vapor which may not be so good for painting .:think:
Grapenuts 12-06-2006, 04:46 PM I'm tapping into my new hot air system for the house...basements going to be like summer again.
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