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Skitterpop
12-29-2006, 07:05 AM
Ancient ice shelf snaps, breaks free from Canadian Arctic

POSTED: 4:29 a.m. EST, December 29, 2006


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• Scientist: "Disturbing event" shows "we are crossing climate thresholds"
• Researchers using satellite images discovered 2005 event
• Collapse picked up by earthquake monitors 155 miles away
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TORONTO, Ontario (AP) -- A giant ice shelf the size of 11,000 football fields has snapped free from Canada's Arctic, scientists said.
The mass of ice broke clear 16 months ago from the coast of Ellesmere Island, about 800 kilometers (497 miles) south of the North Pole, but no one was present to see it in Canada's remote north.
Scientists using satellite images later noticed that it became a newly formed ice island in just an hour and left a trail of icy boulders floating in its wake.
Warwick Vincent of Laval University, who studies Arctic conditions, traveled to the newly formed ice island and could not believe what he saw.
"This is a dramatic and disturbing event. It shows that we are losing remarkable features of the Canadian North that have been in place for many thousands of years. We are crossing climate thresholds, and these may signal the onset of accelerated change ahead," Vincent said Thursday.
In 10 years of working in the region he has never seen such a dramatic loss of sea ice, he said.
The collapse was so powerful that earthquake monitors 250 kilometers (155 miles) away picked up tremors from it.
The Ayles Ice Shelf, roughly 66 square kilometers (41 square miles) in area, was one of six major ice shelves remaining in Canada's Arctic.
Scientists say it is the largest event of its kind in Canada in 30 years and point their fingers at climate change as a major contributing factor.
"It is consistent with climate change," Vincent said, adding that the remaining ice shelves are 90 percent smaller than when they were first discovered in 1906.
"We aren't able to connect all of the dots ... but unusually warm temperatures definitely played a major role."
Laurie Weir, who monitors ice conditions for the Canadian Ice Service, was poring over satellite images in 2005 when she noticed that the shelf had split and separated.
Weir notified Luke Copland, head of the new global ice lab at the University of Ottawa, who initiated an effort to find out what happened.
Using U.S. and Canadian satellite images, as well as data from seismic monitors, Copland discovered that the ice shelf collapsed in the early afternoon of August 13, 2005.
"What surprised us was how quickly it happened," Copland said. "It's pretty alarming.
"Even 10 years ago scientists assumed that when global warming changes occur that it would happen gradually so that perhaps we expected these ice shelves just to melt away quite slowly, but the big surprise is that for one they are going, but secondly that when they do go, they just go suddenly, it's all at once, in a span of an hour."
Within days, the floating ice shelf had drifted a few miles (kilometers) offshore. It traveled west for 50 kilometers (31 miles) until it finally froze into the sea ice in the early winter.
The Canadian ice shelves are packed with ancient ice that dates back over 3,000 years. They float on the sea but are connected to land.
Derek Mueller, a polar researcher with Vincent's team, said the ice shelves get weaker and weaker as the temperature rises. He visited Ellesmere's Ward Hunt Ice Shelf in 2002 and noticed it had cracked in half.
"We're losing our ice shelves, and this a feature of the landscape that is in danger of disappearing altogether from Canada," Mueller said. "In the global perspective Antarctica has many ice shelves bigger than this one, but then there is the idea that these are indicators of climate change."
The spring thaw may bring another concern as the warming temperatures could release the ice shelf from its Arctic grip. Prevailing winds could then send the ice island southwards, deep into the Beaufort Sea.
"Over the next few years this ice island could drift into populated shipping routes," Weir said. "There's significant oil and gas development in this region as well, so we'll have to keep monitoring its location over the next few years."

spence
12-29-2006, 07:06 AM
Nothing the free market can't fix.

-spence

baldwin
12-29-2006, 05:41 PM
Maybe someday I'll be able to cast for stripers off my back deck. Right now, I'm 20 minutes inland.

Canalman
12-30-2006, 08:21 AM
Maybe someday I'll be able to cast for stripers off my back deck. Right now, I'm 20 minutes inland.

Yea, but you'll have to dress up like a baked potato to go out and fish :cool:

Backbeach Jake
12-30-2006, 09:54 AM
If the ice was floating when it broke away, the sea level won't rise as it melts. In fact it'll drop slightly. Fill a glass to the brim with ice and water. Walk away until the ice melts. When the ice has melted the water level will be slightly below the brim. We're saved!
It's the glaciers that slide into the sea that we should be concerned about.

baldwin
12-30-2006, 12:56 PM
You got that bass-ackwards, Jake. Ice below the surface won't add to the total volume, it'll shrink. This is because the crystalline lattice configuration of the ice gives it more volume than the same volume of liquid water. That's why ice floats. Ice above the water's surface will melt and add volume, but lesser volume added than that above the surface in solid form. If the ice was in the water to start with, it might not add, but ice falling from land will add volume.

Pete F.
12-30-2006, 01:06 PM
Just remember that Long Island, Block Island and the Cape were at the end of the glacier last time.
The reason Greenland is called Greenland is because when the Vikings found it it was Green with foliage, they left when it froze up.

Backbeach Jake
12-30-2006, 01:19 PM
You got that bass-ackwards, Jake. Ice below the surface won't add to the total volume, it'll shrink. This is because the crystalline lattice configuration of the ice gives it more volume than the same volume of liquid water. That's why ice floats. Ice above the water's surface will melt and add volume, but lesser volume added than that above the surface in solid form. If the ice was in the water to start with, it might not add, but ice falling from land will add volume.

That's pretty much what I wrote. We're not that far apart.

teaser
12-30-2006, 11:23 PM
I spent 4 years in Iceland so I have to add this ... Iceland was 1st found by the vikings and then Greenland, they named the 2 islands backwards as to throw off any new visitors who hoped to migrate in that part of the world. The way the Icelandics told me was that Iceland was the landing spot for the vikings and to avoid overpopulation they changed the name of the 2 islands so if anyone went to Greenland 1st hoping to see a new paradise that they could populate they'd see nothing but ice and cold weather, and so they would figure if this is "Green"land then the hell with "Ice"land ... lets go home.