View Full Version : Way to go MAC


J_T_R
03-13-2007, 01:04 PM
I've been watching a lot of his stuff on ebay and they sure do sell for a lot, but this is a new high:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=260093347805&rd=1&rd=1

The Dad Fisherman
03-13-2007, 01:32 PM
WOW :shocked:

mikecc
03-13-2007, 01:47 PM
I believe that is taylor woodworking on MV. he is also getting into the lure building business.

mikecc
03-13-2007, 01:54 PM
I don't know about turning out Mac's stuff. I know he is a lure collector. He has talked with me about getting into the business. He was looking into a few CNC machines.

bassmaster
03-13-2007, 01:55 PM
good 4 u maCola

Nebe
03-13-2007, 02:20 PM
to bad mac isnt getting to see that cash :(

BigFish
03-13-2007, 03:23 PM
ya that's the dood I keep hearing rumors of that is going to take all mac's stuff and stick into a cnc and spit out thousands a minute.... :rollem:

was soliciting/trolling last week on another board.

Good for mac that his stuff can get hundreds but remember it's a select few doing it so take it for what it's worth.

Anyone with a lathe and a piece of sandpaper is a lure business nowadays.

:hihi:

Tagger
03-13-2007, 03:58 PM
I like these Macs ,,, not for sale....

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k134/tagger-02/Mac.jpg

mikecc
03-13-2007, 04:19 PM
I like these Macs ,,, not for sale....

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k134/tagger-02/Mac.jpg


I agree Tagger.
I told Mac that he could have some or all his plugs back off the wall. He only took 1 I believe a yellow surfster. :drool:

numbskull
03-13-2007, 06:19 PM
I believe that is taylor woodworking on MV. he is also getting into the lure building business.

I think I met the guy some years back. Very intense and goes all out when he gets into something. Was a serious and very good bass fisherman years ago, was heavily into big game archery and tournament saltwater flyfishing last I heard of him. I believe his family owned the Wall Street Journal or Washington Post at some point.....so financially he can afford to do things right. Turned out high end woodworking back then. If he gets into plug building he likely would put out a quality product. More likely he is just into collecting (or plans to take up plugging again). The nitty gritty of filling commerical orders on schedule probably gets old very fast.

Jigman
03-13-2007, 06:30 PM
to bad mac isnt getting to see that cash :(

Yep, that is the down side of all that. I have a few Macs and will fish them till they can't be fished no more :btu:

Jigman

Tagger
03-13-2007, 06:45 PM
to bad mac isnt getting to see that cash :(

He gave a ton away .. probably 500 plugs .. always traded with me :tm:

Nebe
03-13-2007, 07:03 PM
no ones gettig my mac attack chicken scratch pikies :D

Young Salt
03-13-2007, 07:19 PM
http://www.oldschoolgamers.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/pimp.gif MAC the plug pimp!!!

Flaptail
03-13-2007, 07:37 PM
When Mac was known as "Newel Guy"

vineyardblues
03-13-2007, 08:24 PM
Dave,
How many plugs did you make over 2 + years ?
VB

Karl F
03-13-2007, 08:27 PM
Dave,
How many plugs did you make over 2 + years ?
VB

Unknown.. (Dave.. that is the "correct" answer).. :D ;)

BigFish
03-13-2007, 08:37 PM
I had a bunch of MAC's.....once!:(

Just kidding MAC.......:bgi:

Tagger
03-13-2007, 09:09 PM
Dave,
How many plugs did you make over 2 + years ?
VB

it was more than 2 ... I think he quit going on five maybe ,, not sure ,, its all an ayc blur . I think it was 2 as Newell Guy ..

capesams
03-13-2007, 09:54 PM
I have one of those big W's...sell for $300.00 free shipin. or all 7 for $1000.00 or trade for 10" unisaw.:hee:

Tagger
03-14-2007, 03:32 PM
Mac ,,,, do me a big favor ..... Cut your ear off ... I'll clean up on your plugs ... buy you a new ear .. :lasso:

hunan
03-14-2007, 10:10 PM
s.y.a.a.d.

Canalman
03-15-2007, 12:19 AM
cnc'd mac plugs!?!?! I wouldn't TOUCH those :yak6:

I'll only use wood that someone had to work to make, tweak, design etc... :whackin:

ProfessorM
03-15-2007, 09:59 AM
I hate CNC's . Sorry Lu. I prefer the old fashion way.

Charleston
03-15-2007, 10:20 AM
The words "custom made" and the term CNC should not exist together when describing plugs. There is nothing custom about CNC.

While CNC definitely has it's place in manufacturing it takes all the personality out of plug building. It's where you draw the line between hand made (custom) and mass produced.

Surf Hunter
03-15-2007, 11:12 AM
Shannon and I will always treasure the marbled (mine blue, Shannon's purple) pikies he made us with our names on them as thanks for the work we did for the GOS auction on the other board.
They are the only two Macs we have and they ain't going anywere.

Canalman
03-15-2007, 02:56 PM
The words "custom made" and the term CNC should not exist together when describing plugs. There is nothing custom about CNC.

While CNC definitely has it's place in manufacturing it takes all the personality out of plug building. It's where you draw the line between hand made (custom) and mass produced.

I hate CNC's . Sorry Lu. I prefer the old fashion way.

Amen! :laughs:

Can I get a Halleujah? Or at least someone who knows how to spell it :laughs:

spence
03-15-2007, 05:10 PM
The words "custom made" and the term CNC should not exist together when describing plugs. There is nothing custom about CNC.
Is there really much difference between a CNC plug and one made on a lathe with a duplicator?

-spence

Karl F
03-15-2007, 05:32 PM
Is there really much difference between a CNC plug and one made on a lathe with a duplicator?

-spence

Damn Good Point. and yes , there are subltle differences.. Speed, and the cnc is much more accurate.

The prototype gets the original design and tweaking, if you are doing quantity of a proven plug, a duplicator can do that, and save you time.. a CNC can do that better and faster..

I can't imagine anyone selling, not using a cnc, or a duplicator, templates, and any form of layout, jigs etc. that they can to speed the process.. of a proven prototype.. if they have to test, & tune, & swim each one.. the logistics of that, are a plan for failure, as a company.

Hard to imagine a machinist that hates CNC technology, especially knowing how they appreciate tolerances.. but.. maybe it just reminds them of work...:)

I have no problem with plugs made from a duplicator, or a CNC.. as long as they swim and catch fish.. whats the big deal.. almost sounds like some kind of elitist mentality...
Seen the end result of that.. look up at Scorton.. Scorton Pine.. :hihi:

capesams
03-15-2007, 05:40 PM
I'd have to say no difference....but a plug turned with a set of calipers and a chisel wood be more in line of custom.Getting down to nitty gritty, hand carves are truly custom...made by hand..no machine.

spence
03-15-2007, 06:11 PM
I can't imagine a CNC plug and a duplicator plug would be different enough to impact performace, considering the other and obvious factors that contribute to quality.

-spence

Canalman
03-15-2007, 11:32 PM
Let me tell you the real difference. A CNC guy is working to pump out volume, therefore he never holds each piece of wood... when I spin a plug... if I pick up a blank that feels light... I toss it aside and make a popper or a pencil out of it... if it feels heavy.. I toss it aside and make something that dives a bit etc. Also... little things are over-looked like flushing the weight holes off perfectly (no mine aren't always perfect either :laughs: ) Then we come to paint.. no custom colors, no attention to detail... just a coat of white a coat of pink... white... green.... white black. High volume and custom aren't the same... hell a lot of it is outsourced to the phillipines! I'm not knocking the high volume guys for doing what they have to do to meet their demands... I'm SOOOO glad I don;t have those demands, I do this because I love to do it, and if it became a REAL job, It'd probably ruin building for me and maybe even (gulp!) fishing! It's one of those whatever floats your boat deals... some guys love the competition of making more than Habs or Better than Beachmaster, I get a kick out of hearing about good fish taken on a plug I made and what little money I earn goes toward my student loans or more likely eels :laughs:. Those are the diff's I see...

-Dave

numbskull
03-16-2007, 06:33 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking of hanging out my shingle and getting rich too.

Numbskull Plugs
No Two the Same
Random Lopsided Action
Off Center Holes
Unintended Colors
Bad Epoxy Finishes
Cast Like Balloons
Built Very Slowly In the USA
Guaranteed To Maybe Catch Fish.

Flaptail
03-16-2007, 07:21 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking of hanging out my shingle and getting rich too.

Numbskull Plugs
No Two the Same
Random Lopsided Action
Off Center Holes
Unintended Colors
Bad Epoxy Finishes
Cast Like Balloons
Built Very Slowly In the USA
Guaranteed To Maybe Catch Fish.

Too funny George, too funny!

vinnyb
03-16-2007, 12:53 PM
I can't imagine anyone selling, not using a cnc, or a duplicator, templates, and any form of layout, jigs etc. that they can to speed the process.. of a proven prototype.. if they have to test, & tune, & swim each one.. the logistics of that, are a plan for failure, as a company.


I once asked Mike Fixter why no two of his plugs are exactly the same in dimension. He said (and I paraphrasing here) that for him, the fun of building was in creating each piece differently. He said that if they were all the same, he'd quickly lose interest. I then asked him how he can be sure a particular piece will swim properly. The answer - you guessed it - he test swims each & every one.

Guyver
03-16-2007, 01:14 PM
Yeah, I'm thinking of hanging out my shingle and getting rich too.

Numbskull Plugs
No Two the Same
Random Lopsided Action
Off Center Holes
Unintended Colors
Bad Epoxy Finishes
Cast Like Balloons
Built Very Slowly In the USA
Guaranteed To Maybe Catch Fish.


NO FAIR:realmad: !!! That's my business plan!!! :wall: :jester:
Except I plan to overcharge for my inferior product .:tooth:
I had one plug that looked more like a flounder cause the eyes were so far off. Vincent van Gogh would be proud of some of my plugs :cheers: .
Am I wrong for trying to make jigs for all the steps so I get a consistent plug :huh: ?

Pete F.
03-16-2007, 09:58 PM
Am I wrong for trying to make jigs for all the steps so I get a consistent plug :huh: ?
Whatever smokes your shorts, you could buy a CNC machine.
Try livelining two mackerel, one with a couple of clipped fins.
Who will the big fish get first, the good swimmer or the one that looks like an easy target?

Swimmer
03-17-2007, 07:59 AM
I treasure my Macs.........:uhuh: