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Flaptail 03-29-2007, 07:35 PM Did you sign up?
I have been fretting in my mind, I don't think I am going to this year. The boat guys (especially who fish commercial) have the definite edge and the clubs have the edge over the lone eagles like myself.
Surf fishing on the Cape hasn't been productive enough to produce a lot of really big fish and killing 30 pounders for a pin is a personal line I won't cross ( then I have to get rid of the thing cause big bass don't really make my mouth water)
The sutf guys in Rhode Island are still in the game as that seems to be the end of the road for the big girls coming north (they got real pogies lucky dawgs)
And lastly I couldn't afford the gas for the Tundra ( gas pigs in cyl) and I couldn't afford to run the boat either.
Dilemma. I had the form and pen in hand at the MSBA show but couldn't pull the trigger. Maybe in the future but this year I am out of it
( not that that matters much anyway)
Saltheart 03-29-2007, 07:40 PM I plan to sign up. The party at the end is worth the money to me.
Mike P 03-29-2007, 07:49 PM They do have release pins for this year. Not that pins are that big a deal to me, but if you want a few for your hat, you don't have to kill a fish.
The way I look at it is, I'm going to fish anyway. If I happen to get a decent fish, I can weigh it on a Manley, take a quick measurement and submit it for a pounder release pin. If not, the Harpoon-fest is a pretty good time. It's worth the $25 to me.
tattoobob 03-29-2007, 08:04 PM I agree with Mike, and as soon as I have some extra cash I am signing up. Plus I have a chance to win a sweet boat.
Every year is different and the fish could show on the cape, I always hope anyway.
Raider Ronnie 03-29-2007, 08:10 PM I signed my son Leo and myself up
JohnR 03-29-2007, 08:12 PM Same here - we're in... Flap - you of all should know that its almost a roll of the dice when and where the fish will show in any give year. While Rhody may have relatively done well a bunch of good anglers were kicking and screaming. Who knows where the fish will move on any given year. You might C&R a bunch up there.
Another game of "Striped Bass WTH Will They Show Roulette"
tattoobob 03-29-2007, 09:50 PM John is S-B hosting a team this year?
stiff tip 03-30-2007, 05:06 AM steve .... save your money.. u know u never catch " big fish " any more..... is there a schoolie pin ?????? luv.. cupcake...
Ur just ascared to get NIB slapped..
:hihi:
Backbeach Jake 03-30-2007, 05:21 AM I'm in. Flap, there's a C&R clause in the rules this year for pins only.
Goose 03-30-2007, 06:48 AM I know its a tough situation but I thought they'd do something about comm guys. OTW being a sport fishing magazine and knowing comm. plays a huge part in the percentage of bass and integrity of the tournament. It should be a repeat of last year if the same anglers enter. Me believing that, I still plan on entering. Its only 25$ and I spend most of the time wishing for bigger fish anyway. to each his own but I'm not in it for those 30# fish pins there just to dam heavy, I hear the 50's and 60's are lighter.:)
Moses 03-30-2007, 07:14 AM I'm in again. As stated in earlier thread, it motivates me to fish more. And don't equate this with kill more. Plus the party at Harpoon is fun.
taJon 03-30-2007, 07:27 AM I'm gonna sign up. does anyone know the rules for joining as a club? can a club be created for the contest?
TheSpecialist 03-30-2007, 08:29 AM I'm in
Mike P 03-30-2007, 08:54 AM I thought I read that they have a separate shore division this year for the monthly prizes and a chance at the grand prize :confused:
If that's the case, you're really not competing against the commercials, since 99.9% of them are boat fishing.
You may be in the club division, but I thought that you also got an additional .5 points per pound for a shore fish. So, your club gets 45 points for your shore 30--did I read that right or am I totally off base??
JohnR 03-30-2007, 09:14 AM John is S-B hosting a team this year?
I think so - if you all want it :D
t.orlando 03-30-2007, 09:31 AM I think so - if you all want it :D
Hope so, since I already signed up under S-B
JohnR 03-30-2007, 09:51 AM Hope so, since I already signed up under S-B
Yeh - we are :cheers:
RIROCKHOUND 03-30-2007, 09:55 AM I probably wont.
If I have a big fish, great, I'll enter it in local clubs.
OTW is making strides towards getting it better. Maybe some day, but I dont need more incentive to fish, I'm out there anyways!
Back Beach 03-30-2007, 10:12 AM Hope so, since I already signed up under S-B
Me too. Could personally give a damn about the pins, but I like the idea of maybe shagging a monthly/weekly/annual prize. Plus its the competition that makes it fun. S-B has enough capable anglers to give it a good run with the new points format, so get off your butts and sign up if you're thinking about it. No excuses.
Swimmer 03-30-2007, 10:14 AM I think that Nib has come up with a serious challenge to Flaptails decision not to enter the S C Tourney.
While I think Flaptails reasoning is heartwarming I find it difficult to believe that the Nib slapped comment will go unnoticed.
djfishes 03-31-2007, 01:39 PM I have just joined this website, can i go under this as a club? or is there something else that i need to do. (no hazing right LOL)
i want to join but i kayak fish too so do i pick boat division?
JohnR 03-31-2007, 03:50 PM I have just joined this website, can i go under this as a club? or is there something else that i need to do. (no hazing right LOL)
i want to join but i kayak fish too so do i pick boat division?
Sure - send a check to me for ....
Nope - just when you sign up put Striped-Bass.com under the team name. Shortly I throw up a thread with a list of S-B'ers doing the Cup. Where are you from? That has to do with tackle / weigh in shops...
Thanks!
John
Swimmer 03-31-2007, 06:30 PM JR I signed up today and chose to play for S-B.com. I'll look forward to weighing in large this summer.
djfishes 03-31-2007, 07:26 PM rhode island
johnny ducketts 03-31-2007, 08:54 PM I am in the same boat as djfishes, I am thinking about signing up for this as well. I am fairly new to the board, and have only met a few members.. I'm in Falmouth let me know if I can help!
thanks.
stiff tip 04-01-2007, 04:19 AM i,m in .... i,m gonna fill my fish gear room w/ 30, 40, n 50# pins... and sell every fish i can,,,, cause i,m a comm. fishing hoar !!!!! sorry lost control.....
The Dad Fisherman 04-01-2007, 05:40 PM I thought I read that they have a separate shore division this year for the monthly prizes and a chance at the grand prize :confused:
If that's the case, you're really not competing against the commercials, since 99.9% of them are boat fishing.
You may be in the club division, but I thought that you also got an additional .5 points per pound for a shore fish. So, your club gets 45 points for your shore 30--did I read that right or am I totally off base??
You declare Shore or Boat when you register and what Club, If any, You are affiliated with.
There is a Monthly Shore and a Monthly Boat winner for a total of 10 winners in the drawing for the Tundra.
Shore fish will be awarded 1.3 points per pound for for any fish entered for the Club Standings. If you catch a 30 lb'er you would receive 39 points for it.
Hope this helps
tattoobob 04-03-2007, 09:37 PM I'm in :humpty:
moosh 04-03-2007, 09:47 PM Im in ,you cant beat the price . if you dont join you cant win!!Theres some great prizes ... If youre going to fish anyway. why not . tight lines to all ..
johnny ducketts 04-04-2007, 07:36 AM I'm in. mailing the check this weekend..
Flaptail 04-06-2007, 06:14 AM I joined the race for the cup. I talked with my old friend Niel Larson and we talked it over. The catch and release thing swayed me. Good option and I am glad they have that in that tourney.
Now I just have to convince Numbskull to join.
BTW, anyone looking for a good deal on a Tundra or Northcoast boat see me after October 1st.
stiff tip 04-06-2007, 06:32 AM steve. is there a fillet-n- release division... 2 @ 18in packed on ice, in the cooler.....who me??? on sir.. mr epo.. i don,t eat fish...
I joined the race for the cup. I talked with my old friend Niel Larson and we talked it over. The catch and release thing swayed me. Good option and I am glad they have that in that tourney.
Now I just have to convince Numbskull to join.
BTW, anyone looking for a good deal on a Tundra or Northcoast boat see me after October 1st.
Atta boy, Kill em all..
What team are u gonna fish for..
Mike P 04-06-2007, 09:52 AM I'm probably going to fish for team s-b again, after thinking it over. If I read the rules correctly (never a safe assumption :rollem: ), each member can only enter two fish towards their club total. I'm not so sure how that's going to play. It may level the playing field, but it might also result in more people entering margainal fish. Last year, you knew after a very short time that even a 30# fish wasn't going to help your club. The winning club had something like a 47-48# average for their top 10 fish. This year, with the top guns of every club limited to two fish, maybe some of the other guys will think a 25# might put their club over the top :huh: I will probably set a minimum personal threshhold for killing and entering a fish.
I won a weekly prize last year--I don't need another 7' light rod, Quantum reel, a set of Ronz eels too light to use in the Canal and $100 gift card from Boaters' World. One of each was plenty :D
I bought one of those Boga knock-offs at the RISAA show since I intend to release most of my catch, and submit for release pins. I'll choose my two to enter for s-b with a lot of discretion.
The Dad Fisherman 04-06-2007, 10:06 AM Mike, I think the way it reads is that Only 2 fish can Count towards your clubs totals...you can enter fish every week if you want but only your 2 heaviest will count towards the Club Total.
I'm probably going to fish for team s-b again, after thinking it over. If I read the rules correctly (never a safe assumption :rollem: ), each member can only enter two fish towards their club total. I'm not so sure how that's going to play. It may level the playing field, but it might also result in more people entering margainal fish. Last year, you knew after a very short time that even a 30# fish wasn't going to help your club. The winning club had something like a 47-48# average for their top 10 fish. This year, with the top guns of every club limited to two fish, maybe some of the other guys will think a 25# might put their club over the top :huh: I will probably set a minimum personal threshhold for killing and entering a fish.
I won a weekly prize last year--I don't need another 7' light rod, Quantum reel, a set of Ronz eels too light to use in the Canal and $100 gift card from Boaters' World. One of each was plenty :D
I bought one of those Boga knock-offs at the RISAA show since I intend to release most of my catch, and submit for release pins. I'll choose my two to enter for s-b with a lot of discretion.
Are they limiting it to "entering" 2 fish for your club or is it only your two largest fish will count? Big difference. For example: if you weigh in a 30 and 35 in June and you get a 40 at a later date are you out of luck with the 40? That would be a good rule.
I know many of our club (Newport) members will enter.
But I think I'll just continue to catch my fish in the comfort of relative obscurity.
DZ
It's ur 2 biggest fish. u can bump urself..
Good luck to the guys in ur club an to Ur obscurity DZ..
Myself, I have still not decide what I'm gonna do..
I have some good friends that would like me to join a local club entrant..
If it where not for them I would not even consider it this yr..
I killed a lot of fish I would have let go last yr..
For what..
They did not even list the top five of the surf division in the final standings..
They have this great magazine.Yet they never listed the monthly standings.They could have had a blurb or something in there...
I think I would do wonders for my own self respect at this point..
If I did not kill any fish..Like DZ..I'm trying to take myself to the same Zen like level as Dennis..
Who knows..
"Every time I try to get out they suck me back in.."
I will probably end up in..I will only take a few..
JFigliuolo 04-06-2007, 10:49 AM Count me in the DZ camp... except w/less fish.
LeCounts1099 04-06-2007, 11:05 AM Save some room in obscurity for me Dennis! :humpty:
I'm not killing a big Bass for any reason ever except if it's bleeding badly from a bait- hook, or spent enough that I'm convinced it won't survive... (Not often, with my VS300 & 25 lb. mono getting all my night- time heavy terrain play... 250 & 20 lb. otherwise minimally)
Just don't get "tournaments" for Stripers myself... (You all do as you please of course!). Maybe because I believe large ones are "game- fish," & small- medium ones and farmed ones are "food- fish"
Seeking Large is usually a solitary activity done from Surf in the Dark mostly, and for my own goals only. Do I need a "free" light 7' rod, orr rubber eels whatever size that badly? Do I really need to kill enough (very) big Bass to have a small CHANCE at a new boat?? Do I need or want my name mentioned with a #38 in OTW... even if they did so more often, as Nib asks logically why they don't with a big Mag to fill? (Less room for ads, Nib! Increasingly, OTW is maybe one or two very good Bass articles, & otherwise freshwater/ irrelevant, & mostly ads besides!) :rtfm:
Did anyone see that NE Angling TV show this weekend: where the tubes were used during a "tournament" to keep an 18 lb. Bass alive for hours?... only to have her placed on- the- dock & measured over & over again, length & girth, for at least 2+ minutes out of water, before it was "successfully released?" (To what: croak, & feed crabs under the dock?) :sick:
All I personally need after beaching (or boating) my fish, is to see that tail- slap & rush away that tells me she's well, & off to provide more spawns or at least another thrill while 10 lbs. heavier for another competant fisher! (Who I'd hope will release her also, so I can get her 10 pounds heavier again next! And then do the same for you again too... Unless she's the "one" for my wall finally after 10,000+ releases!) :hihi:
Diggin Jiggin 04-06-2007, 11:06 AM I'm probably going to fish for team s-b again, after thinking it over. If I read the rules correctly (never a safe assumption :rollem: ), each member can only enter two fish towards their club total. I'm not so sure how that's going to play. It may level the playing field, but it might also result in more people entering margainal fish. Last year, you knew after a very short time that even a 30# fish wasn't going to help your club. The winning club had something like a 47-48# average for their top 10 fish. This year, with the top guns of every club limited to two fish, maybe some of the other guys will think a 25# might put their club over the top :huh: I will probably set a minimum personal threshhold for killing and entering a fish.
I won a weekly prize last year--I don't need another 7' light rod, Quantum reel, a set of Ronz eels too light to use in the Canal and $100 gift card from Boaters' World. One of each was plenty :D
I bought one of those Boga knock-offs at the RISAA show since I intend to release most of my catch, and submit for release pins. I'll choose my two to enter for s-b with a lot of discretion.
Mike, the shore fish get multiplied by 1.3, so a shore 30 is worth a boat 39, a 35lb shore fish is equivalent to a boat 45. I think that helps us shore guys a lot and lets us contribute equally to our team ... Now, if i can just find my first 40...
Mike P 04-06-2007, 02:50 PM It's ur 2 biggest fish. u can bump urself..
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:( It would be a lot better if you had to choose wisely. But still, you can only weigh one a week, am I right on that at least?
It isn't going to change my approach. The two I entered last year were injured, but we still would up having to throw some of the biggest out, after eating and chowdering all that we could reasonably stomach. It's just too much fish for 2 people even if both of them love fish the way we do.
Rockport24 04-06-2007, 02:58 PM the 1.3 for shore fish is really good IMO. maybe Team S-B wil have a better shot this year because of it? We gots some hardcore surfcasters here I know that.
Sluggoslinger 04-06-2007, 03:44 PM I'm in for team S-B boat division if they have it... I eat lots of fish over the summer so I'll be happy to contribute some tasty weight!
johnny ducketts 04-06-2007, 04:17 PM Is SB.com registered with OTW, Because I wanna sign up for you guys but on their website it has the clubs listed for 07, and I can't see SB.com, It says all clubs must be registered with them and to call some number for the appropriate paper work. Has that already been done?
Thanks
GBOUTDOORS 04-08-2007, 07:53 AM I will sign up today for SB.Com I am not big into turnaments but this one was fun last year and the 50# and 60# pins will look good on the wall near the 40# from last year:wiggle:
eelman 04-08-2007, 08:06 AM After contemplating it for awhile I will not sign up this year...Came in 5th overall last year in the Surf division and for what? a couple of pins..Ma licence for me this year and would rather make a buck than get a few pins and a T- Shirt. Killing fish for this is no different than selling fish...the lines are becoming blurred indeed...So I will spend my $25 on gas, cause its gonna be expensive this year....
BigFish 04-08-2007, 08:11 AM I am going to join as an individual.......if for no other reason I like the pins and the good time at the end! I did not weigh in a fish last year......if I catch one worth weighing for a pounder pin....I will gladly! I only kept 2 fish all year last year so...no glutton here!
nightfighter 04-08-2007, 08:32 AM After contemplating it for awhile I will not sign up this year...Came in 5th overall last year in the Surf division and for what? a couple of pins..Ma licence for me this year and would rather make a buck than get a few pins and a T- Shirt. Killing fish for this is no different than selling fish...the lines are becoming blurred indeed...So I will spend my $25 on gas, cause its gonna be expensive this year....
Chit, Bill. Then you might as well weigh a few in before you sell 'em. You of all people have pride in what you do, so why dump on a pin. It is a recognition of acomplishment amongst your peers. You should be proud of what you did last year.... And after all i said and done, are you fishing for the recognition or money first? I bet not...
eelman 04-08-2007, 09:49 AM Chit, Bill. Then you might as well weigh a few in before you sell 'em. You of all people have pride in what you do, so why dump on a pin. It is a recognition of acomplishment amongst your peers. You should be proud of what you did last year.... And after all i said and done, are you fishing for the recognition or money first? I bet not...
Its more than that ross...I have been as guilty as anyone of of wanting recognition and acomplishments among peers, However in the end most people hate you for it and the amount of enimies you make with "doing well" at the sport or writing or speaking just isnt worth the agravation...I am proud of last year...I am just really starting to see things differently, I have enough acomplishments that I certainly dont feel I have to keep proving year in and year out that I am able to put a fish on the beach..I have started seeing some of my own friends just keep on doing these tournys or speaking engadgements or writing etc...just to keep there name in the front lines..It has made me sick lately, everyone smartens up after awhile, I may be late in that department but I realize I just love to fish and that is whats important to me now, just going fishing sometimes you lose what your really into the sport for. I am burnt out on Tourneys, sport shows, phonies, bulls*&%^t artists and ego mainiacs..I am also not participating in my own clubs tourneys this year..
As for the money? You make squat writing or speaking or anything else like that unless you really have some serious backing, when I go clamming etc...I get real money right now that I can use...to me there is also a great satisfaction in that..
So again, once you step back and take a look you really see the bull thats out there...This tourney to me is one way I can remove myself from that a bit.
Last weekend at the RISAA Show I was amazed at the audiance at my seminars, they hang on every word, not just me all the other speakers also..I sincerly try and cut though all the bull to them and kind of feel bad that society has made this sport so much harder than it really is..most of the speakers are either blowin smoke or trying to hawk some product or another...its sad.. Anyway I have just had enough of the bull..
That fish makes more money for more people its amazing, and recs and comms still battle..who is the real comm?? Its all the same...
So I plan to fish now for my own satisfaction and not to show someone else I can land a big fish...I took to much heat in the past but alas...I have learned from it......
Mr. Sandman 04-08-2007, 10:26 AM Have the weigh-in rules changed? (submission of tickets)
tattoobob 04-08-2007, 11:05 AM Its more than that ross...I have been as guilty as anyone of of wanting recognition and acomplishments among peers, However in the end most people hate you for it and the amount of enimies you make with "doing well" at the sport or writing or speaking just isnt worth the agravation...I am proud of last year...I am just really starting to see things differently, I have enough acomplishments that I certainly dont feel I have to keep proving year in and year out that I am able to put a fish on the beach..I have started seeing some of my own friends just keep on doing these tournys or speaking engadgements or writing etc...just to keep there name in the front lines..It has made me sick lately, everyone smartens up after awhile, I may be late in that department but I realize I just love to fish and that is whats important to me now, just going fishing sometimes you lose what your really into the sport for. I am burnt out on Tourneys, sport shows, phonies, bulls*&%^t artists and ego mainiacs..I am also not participating in my own clubs tourneys this year..
As for the money? You make squat writing or speaking or anything else like that unless you really have some serious backing, when I go clamming etc...I get real money right now that I can use...to me there is also a great satisfaction in that..
So again, once you step back and take a look you really see the bull thats out there...This tourney to me is one way I can remove myself from that a bit.
Last weekend at the RISAA Show I was amazed at the audiance at my seminars, they hang on every word, not just me all the other speakers also..I sincerly try and cut though all the bull to them and kind of feel bad that society has made this sport so much harder than it really is..most of the speakers are either blowin smoke or trying to hawk some product or another...its sad.. Anyway I have just had enough of the bull..
That fish makes more money for more people its amazing, and recs and comms still battle..who is the real comm?? Its all the same...
So I plan to fish now for my own satisfaction and not to show someone else I can land a big fish...I took to much heat in the past but alas...I have learned from it......
I like the way you think, and couldn't agree more.
nightfighter 04-08-2007, 11:33 AM Got it, Bill. I got it in competitive sailing. Mixing vocation with avocation can really blur the lines....
Time to just go fishing....
Surfpirate 04-08-2007, 08:36 PM I signed up at the RI show, you have to pick boat or beach when you sign up.
there is a release catagory as well.
CATCH & RELEASE -Fish caught and released by registered participants can be entered for pounder pins only. Catch-and-release affidavits will be provided with your registration package, available at weigh stations, and provided online as a downloadable PDF. Fish should be weighed on a handheld scale or measured for length and girth and converted to weightusing the formula (Length x Girth x Girth)/800. Catch-and-release fish are not eligible for prizes, club or personal points, or trophies. Catch-and-release fish do not count against your one fish per week limit, catch-and-release affidavits can be submitted for fish caught outside of a participants registered division.
Slingah 04-08-2007, 09:32 PM I'm gonna do it again...and pledge my allegiance to team S-B :hee:
If you want to make a lot of money at the fishing show - sell peanuts, cashews and fudge like the guy down the isle from my booth did - freaking raking it in on a product with a margin 5X-10X as big a the typical tackle vendor. He's at all the shows at the CC...
blue oyster 04-09-2007, 03:09 PM i'm in , mostly for the t shirt and a chance to win a boat i am mostly c/r , i keep one fish a year but if i get that fish of a lifetime it will be weight in then mounted on the wall :D
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