I just wanted to post some of the news pics on the Chatham side. The two wash over or whatever you want to call them(there right next to each other), are south of the first cluster of Camps on the Chatham side and north of the camps near the point. The pics were at mid tide today. High was at 1 and low at 7. Pics were 5ish.

Reminds me of the Tom hanks movie, "Cast Away" when he has to paddle out over the big water ;)

I love when mother nature throws us a curveball

Bigger Water Tonight.

Water might flood a portion of the main lot tonight.
Pochet Blew thru agin as well.. I wonder what happened down near the cupula camp near trail 4.. that had a river going thru there last big storm, as well..
Be a chain of sand islands before long...... another reason, on a long list of reasons, why I need to get a skiff......

April 18, 2007

Not over yet
By DOUG FRASER
and PATRICK CASSIDY
STAFF WRITERS
A storm that caused substantial flooding and erosion across Cape Cod and the Islands in the past few days may inflict still more damage before it gradually fades away by the end of the week.


The powerful surf hits the sea wall amd threatens houses near Chatham Light Beach during high tide yesterday, the third day of pummeling by a spring northeaster that slowly moves out to sea.
The northeaster, which stalled east of the Cape Monday, has already helped carve out a channel through North Beach between the Atlantic Ocean and Pleasant Bay. Chatham police and the town of Orleans closed the ocean-side beach yesterday to off-road vehicles because of the break and because the storm had washed away most of the Atlantic side of the trail.

''There is no drivable front beach for the entire Orleans/Chatham length,” Chatham police Lt. John Cauble said yesterday.

Even the middle road nestled in dunes between the two water bodies has standing puddles that are impassable, Cauble said.

But the big concern is a channel that Cauble said shows signs of establishing itself permanently.

''It will be washing over for several days with every high tide moving more sand out,” Cauble said. The channel is currently only filling with water at high tide.

The break occurred at what is known as Exit 8, a road that connects two of the ''villages” of small privately owned cabins and camps.

For now, camp owners cannot get out to check on their property, although Cauble said there was no indication that any of them were in jeopardy.

Erosion was evident in other areas of the Outer Beach as well. The roaring waves from Orleans up into Wellfleet were streaked with brown sand. At Nauset Light, the area around the stairway appeared to have nearly 10 feet of sand removed between Monday and yesterday.

While the center of the storm has moved out to sea, it continues to fuel a powerful storm surge along the coast expected to have its greatest impact during high tide early this afternoon. Today's tides will be the most extreme of the month.

Low-lying roads across the Cape were littered with sand and debris yesterday as public works crews struggled to stem the flow of water from a surge of 1 to 2 feet.

With the exception of scattered outages that appear to be wind related, power to most NStar customers on the Cape and Martha's Vineyard had been restored last night, company spokesman Michael Durand said.

Repair crews will be kept on duty in Plymouth and on the Cape in case of new outages, Durand said.




On Nantucket a home at 25 Sheep Pond Road assessed at $555,000 fell into the ocean after its foundation was undermined by erosion, Nantucket police said.

In Woods Hole, where residents have battled the town to repair a collapsed sea wall, at least seven properties were flooded. Several cottages that typically abut Mill Pond were swimming in it as seawater flooded the area.

And, Fanizzi's Restaurant by the Sea on Commercial Street in Provincetown sustained $30,000 to $35,000 in damage from flooding on Monday, owner Paul Fanizzi said. Fanizzi expects to be open again by tomorrow.

Staff writers Mary Ann Bragg and Amanda Lehmert contributed to this report. Doug Fraser can be reached at dfraser@capecodonline.com. Patrick Cassidy can be reached at pcassidy@capecodonline.com.

(Published: April 18, 2007)

never heard of the place. :tooth:

Karl a tin boat into Pleasant Bay should be a lot of fun this year. Might be the only way to get to those camps now.

Hi Karl,

Donny wanted me to say hey. I don't think he will be delivering any more (law suit with his arms).
He visited Ed new place last week and just wanted to pass on a hello.

Please Say Hello to Donny for me..
Sorry to hear about his continued troubles.. but.. tell him his company has gone way down hill since this last merger.. I don't even have a salesman from them anymore!

Ed.. I saw him at the lights the other day.. gotta look him up soon....

:kewl:

I took a walk from the parking lot to trl1 at 1st light this morning.The road[whats left of it]has water over 4'of water in alot of places.the embankment placed at the pochet washover took a beating and was breached in the center and around either side.The walkway at the end of the parking lot to the beach has an 18'plus straight drop to the "beach".I took alot of shots and will try to post them.Gee,I wonder if my 2007 stickers are in the p.o.box today?:rotflmao:

The Cape Cod Times online midday update is reporting the breach of Nauset near the trail #8 crossover. Paul Fulcher of Orleans parks drove down and found the breach was 50 feet wide and three feet deep and could not cross it at low tide. At high tide it's 100 feet wide. This is right between two camp villages so if it were to stay that way and expand camps will be lost.

The dunes went in the water this morning and it is getting wider/ deeper by the tide. Here is a pic form just a couple minutes ago.

Goodbye, Windy city....
picture from the update on CCTimes website, taken from approx trail 8.

When I was walking off the beach Paul was on his way out.I went out to have some film developed[and a disc]and to check my mail at the p.o. in s.orleans and low and behold my 2007 beach stickers were there.This year we're going to get "scanned"instead of the time card.How ironic.oh well,don't mess with mother nature.

Bob.. scanned.. yeah... they gonna put one at the end of Callanans?? :hihi:.. I imagine a lot more company that way this year.. while it's open.. that is...
As a taxpayer, I really appreciate him marinating another brand new town vehicle in SW, so the world can have that picture... :uhoh:

I haven't seen or heard anything about the northside.Is it still there?The scanner is going to be tied to one of the cedar trees on the "pass" and surrounded with poison ivy.Too bad it doesn't monitor tire pressure for those cheating and tearing up the beach[what's left]:uhoh:

That cut if it stays open will be an easy ride to the fishing grounds instead of dealing with that nightmare in front of the light.

the "cut"at the lighthouse started the same way.I would think everything else would follow.

April 19, 2007

Breaking point
By DOUG FRASER
and HILARY RUSS
STAFF WRITERS
CHATHAM - By yesterday morning, Orleans Park Superintendent Paul Fulcher had found that the break in North Beach discovered on Tuesday was a channel 50 feet wide and 3 feet deep at low tide.
By the afternoon's high tide, it appeared to have widened to a half-mile, as seen from Scatteree Landing, across Pleasant Bay.
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http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/images/bullet2.gif The spring northeaster caused beach erosion and crumbled foundations across the Cape and Islands. This home at 25 Sheep Pond Road on Nantucket fell off the side of an eroded embankment after the powerful storm.
(Staff photo by Ron Schloerb)
Against a chaotic backdrop of boiling whitewater and breaking waves, two clumps of lonely cottages squatted helplessly on the sandy barrier beach, looking perilously close to being overwhelmed.
A knot of onlookers gathered to shoot some videotape, or a quick photo, or simply stare at the awesome tableau. ''There was a dune there this morning,” Chatham resident and fisherman Alan Hastbacka shouted over the wind, pointing to the middle of the break. ''There's none there now.”
It seemed like geological history repeating itself.
''I was here for the other one (the Chatham Break in 1987) and this is a lot more,” said Chatham resident Craig Phillips, watching from the landing. ''That was just a little trickle we could walk across. Nothing like this.”
So it went for other majestic vistas on the Cape and Islands after the weekend northeaster.
Off the western edge of Nantucket, Esther Island is an island once again. Once part of Nantucket, it was sheared off by wind and waves after Hurricane Esther in 1961. In the ensuing years, it had filled in and rejoined the bigger island.
On Martha's Vineyard, a 200-yard gash broke the beach at Norton Point beach, a 2½ mile stretch that protects Katama Bay and connects Chappaquid#^&#^&#^&#^& by land to the Vineyard.
''The last time Katama Bay was open to the ocean was 1968,” said David Belcher, superintendent for 20 years of the Trustees of Reservation on Chappaquid#^&#^&#^&#^&, which manages Wasque Reservation for Dukes County. ''It's an act of mother nature. It's never been opened on purpose.
''There's nothing you can do about it. In some respects, it's good for the ecology of Katama Bay. It sort of flushes things out,” he said. ''Historically, these things usually will heal up by themselves.”
With eroding sand came crumbling foundations. One home at 25 Sheep Pond Road on Nantucket, just east of Esther Island, fell off the side of an eroded embankment, said Nantucket Fire Chief Mark McDougall.
Coastal geologist Jim O'Connell the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Sea Grant Program doubted the new break in Chatham would remain open once the storm waves subside, although he said he had not seen it. Sand scraped off the big coastal dunes by waves hitting the Eastham and Wellfleet beaches to the north is carried by currents to the south, he said.
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Kevin Eldredge' family owns Backlash, one of the North Beach camps in what is known as First Village. His grandfather built the camp in the 1920's and five families, including grandchildren, share it. Waves towered higher than the roof lines yesterday and Eldredge worried that the break might be permanent and not allow those owning the camps to the south anything other than boat access.
He loves being there at New Year's. ''The sky is so big and beautiful in the winter. You feel like you're on another planet.”
Doug Fraser can be reached at dfraser@capecodonline.com. Hilary Russ can be reached at hruss@capecodonline.com. (Published: April 19, 2007)

In my past life as an "Insider" for OTW I had a premonition that Nauset was on a ticking clock and said so when referencing buying a sticker for that beach. Now that I am an "Outsider" I realize just how good I was, if only O could predict the lottery with the same accuracy.

Seems my dire predictions in my "Insider" column did have some validity. Glad I stuck to not giving up spots and not blowing smoke up anyones ass to paint a rosey picture when it is defintely not a good scene out there between erosion, seals, no bait and no fish and oh yeah, the National Seashore Park Service.

The goose better talk up the freshwater fishing and Kayak tours cause it don't look good for hardcore surfcasters.

Karl, time to put that down payment on a skiff cause it's gonna be the only game in town down your way.

i'm cumming up to tear around in a really loud jetski in pleasant bay.

with a lot of gas.

see ya. :tooth:

It will help scare the seals away

i'll bring a harpoon. :tooth:

That house on Ministers point is in trouble, if not already.

we saw that lady totally disrobe in the window one night while fishing in that area. :claps: :claps: :btu:

Your "handle"should read;KEEPER-PEEPER!:jump1: :lurk:

LOL:buds:

stop and think ...if that break becomes as big as the one at the light...pleasent bay won't be very pleasent with 4'-6' roller's/white caps coming in.Strong I. will get eaten..tern I/ will get eaten.Rollers as far in as crows pond....it's going to cause big problems all the way up inside....going to need more then a tin boat for these waters.

Excellent Point Steve...

Might give Pleasant Bay a Good Flushing tho.. could have some benifits.. wondering tho.. if it could mean more water in places like Ryders, at High Tide? .. Time will tell... be interesting to see what the next few tides do, as the push drops. Wonder where all them mussels and steamers ended up.. :huh:

Nauset Estuary's already closed for Red Tide....

Wonder where all them mussels and steamers ended up.. :huh:

Nauset Estuary's already closed for Red Tide....

in the bellies of dump ducks.


that cut could go the same way as the one in monomoy years back....deep hole in the channel..then make up one huge sand flat on the inside..good for clams..but hell trying to get across unless you do have a flat bottom skiff and only at high tide...guess only time will tell.

Follow the Flow in the bay.. ripping pretty good for now...

Ministers bar is going to be very interesting.

cool pic Karl.. I cant imagine that hapenign down here on that scale..

and this is just the start of north beach being washed away all together....glad I had the chance to fish all 11 miles way back when.
40-50 mph on low beach heading off...twang! oops! fishin line....sorry bud.:hee:

40-50 mph on low beach heading off...:

who wuz drivin???
ya don't even go that fast on pavement.. ya ol faht!!! :laughs:

I'm sure this has happened in the past it will eventually heal and repeat itself. mother nature is very fickle; she taketh and she giveth. Nature being nature. Anyways I hope this cut stays open because it will help flush out the Bay and bring back the eel grass which is the building block of everything fishy in the bay. Short cut to the tuna... maybe. It should be interesting to see what is going to happen down there.

who wuz drivin???
ya don't even go that fast on pavement.. ya ol faht!!! :laughs:

in my younger days with half a skin full :cheers: too many late nights fishin down there,,headed back middle road sound asleep at the wheel...truck goin by it's self in the tracks..woke up, had no idea where I was.

Cow Yard will be interesting.

Cow Yard will be interesting.

Curious why you say that - I haven't been there in 5 years I think...

Cow Yard will be interesting.

Cow yard could turn to be very interesting. Ministers will be awesome till the bar moves. Sorta make me want to take a trip just to see how it fishes.

we saw that lady totally disrobe in the window one night while fishing in that area. :claps: :claps: :btu:

Sounds like there was more to do than fishing. Reminds me of fishing on the jetties in Jersey. Some of the sites you'd see down there.:eek5:

now that u'all burned that spot..town'll will go put up signs saying residents only parking,,,for 3 cars that is. all others will be towed.

I heard that monomoy might have blown through to the sound. Not 100% though. Anyone see that?

Cow Yard will be interesting.
:spam: :spam: Pay no attention to that man.

Did you see the front page of Thurs. CC Times. What a photo. Awesome.
Karl that photo really has me excited. Maybe a future new Chatham Inlet

now that u'all burned that spot..town'll will go put up signs saying residents only parking,,,for 3 cars that is. all others will be towed.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!:uhuh:

Got Resident sticker? :bshake:

Me too, so looks like theres no more room...

Reaper, you're a chatham guy?

Got a place down there. Spend as much time there as possible. Keep the boat down there.

I'll be down tomorrow for some recon and possibily a boat ride.

I'll be there too working on the boat.

I'm in south chatham by the ocean state job lot.

they put a OSJL in so.chatham/when was that:confused: they already have one in west chatham..bis. must be good:tooth:

I am surprised that capesams didn't remember this from his childhood ;).. but.. after a little research.. this location is where the Chatham Inet was in the 1800's....

ahhh...I was a stage haba monomoy guy...north chatham was for them rich summa folks...rows boat an umbralas an picnick baskets....we were to busy workin to say alive for pleasure boatin.

http://www.capecodchronicle.com/

Click on the Full Story Link.. and Click on the Watch the Slideshow Link.

The tide was ripping this afternoon through there. I heard it was 12 deep feet at low tide yesterday, and it cut through the peat moss.

Little round.. Do NOT believe everything you here...

I just heard from a Chatham Campowner who was out there yesterday, and this AM, and his eyewitness account was very different, that what you have heard.. it is actually pushing sand in to the void today. He said at the worst it was 5' deep on the front side, and possibly 3 ' deep on the bayside at low tide.. litterally tons of sand have shifted in the last 24-48 hours, and today at low tide it was a trickle on the bayside maybe 6 feet wide and 6 inches deep.
He feels.. with his 60 plus years experience, that with continued SW winds, that stretch will be driveable withing 3-4 weeks.. I trust his knowledge, and will Pray for mild weather, with SW winds....he said in looks very similar to when it broke thru there, in the same place, and then healed in the sixtys...

the beach is still closed to all vehicles (except campowners), the middle trail is flooded very deep, and the front beach was cut back 10-15 feet.. almost the entire length.. As we who know it.. know.. a few weeks of SW, can cure a lot....the town will be pumping the water out of the middle trail, over the next week or so.

Time will tell. I was out there yesterday at 1:30 ish and it didn't look good, but who really knows. Yesterday mid tide it marked 7 feet in the middle with seagulls going nuts on sqiud???

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Heres a couple of shots of the new break from the Chatham side looking back towards nauset yesterday the 20th at high tide, Took the old Seacraft out to see the new break up close and was suprised at how big it was, while I was there I saw two differant boats run it with ease. The beach on both sides it toast I can't believe how much it has changed. I got some good pics and will resize some more and post them later heres a couple for now. Capesams has it right pleasant bay will have a new atitude if this sticks around.

Here are a couple more.... first shot is looking north at the camps and the second shot of the outside is looking south....

here are two more looking south, at least all the camps where spared for now.

Here is a couple pics from dead low yesterday. It looks deciving when you are coming up on it. You think there is no water, then there is 1 trickle, and the another stream that has to be 4 feet, b/c I wouln't get across it with waders. The sand is so soft you can think you are on bare ground and then be up to your knees in 1 second.