the bigger(heavyer) of the two oak pikies is 18.24ozs, because of the weight I doubled the size of a pikie 3 lip...any input on the lips too big/small...troll or for RI's breachways:btu: thanks ed

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Ed, you're not messin' around. I wish I had more experience to help w/ your question. Those look serious though. I'm trying to plan my spring trip down there. We have to get out again. Oh yeah, it's "Johnny" (from the other site). I want to be there when you drift that beast!