i found the berckly lip grip at the store on this web site for 25 bucks i took my boga back were i bought it didnt even use it i have a seprate scale to mesure the lip grip will work just fine for me i got youre reply but havent been on lately to busy at work well i hope that might help you im getting mine in a couple days just go down to the store on the opening page see ya later ron

Thanks for the info beachin3:) :)