Can't help but agree


>Written by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it! This is one
>ticked off lady.
>
> "Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not
>started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September
>11, 2001?
>
> Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally
>murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan, across the Potomac from our
>nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania? Did nearly three
>thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing
>death that day, or didn't they?
> And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated"
>when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?...Well, I
don't.
> I don't care at all.
>
> I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents
>for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.
>
> I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start
>caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime
>in Saudi Arabia .
>
> I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking
>off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed
>throat.
>
> I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraq come out
>and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by
>hiding in mosques.
>
> I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search
>of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their
>suicide bombs.
>I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First
>Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead
>of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.
>
> In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up

>an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.
>
> When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have
>been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest
>assured: I don't care.
>
> When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told
>not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the
bank:
> I don't care.
>
> When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat,

>and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is
>complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can
>absolutely believe in your heart of hearts: I don't care.
>
> And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran"
>and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and --you guessed it
>-- I don't care ! ! ! ! !
>
> If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail
>friends.
>Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this
>ridiculous behavior!
>
> If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button.
>
> Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more
>atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great
>country!
>And may I add:
>
> "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a
>difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem."
> -- Ronald Reagan
>
> I have another quote that I would like to add AND.......I hope you
>forward all this.
>
> "If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a

>nation gone under."
> Also by.. Ronald Reagan
>
> One last thought for the day:
>
> "A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many
>want in...
>and how many want out."
>
> Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
> 1. Jesus Christ
> 2. The American G. I.
>
> One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.** ** **If you are

>not going to back our TROOPS then please Stand in FRONT of them **
>
> YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET BOTH OF THEM.
>AMEN!

Amen to that

I second all that she said. Dump Hillary, and run that womam for prez. She's got my vote.

I think we should rip up the US Constitution and just follow what people tell us in in the Bible.

-spence

when the Unites states constitution was written it was during a time

when the chief mode of transportation was a sailing vessel or via horses
on land...

so ...now that we have super sonic air craft ....and we are venturing into space...

perhaps it's time to draft a planetary constitution...

similar to what the star trek federation of planets on tv says...


enforcing it though is obviously a whole different matter...
~

we have that in place now... bill of rights... humanitarian laws

it's all there.. only it has to become known as planetary law

or planet Earth law... :rolleyes:

thats a great piece of writing...

it should be posted every where

on everything. all so true.

i sent it to many people.

none of this would have happened if we just minded our own freakin' business in the region (zero military aid to Israel).

I don't care either...Check out the book Lone Survivor by Marcus Lutrell, he really puts it all into perspective...talk about front line..

Ice

>Written by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it!

Ignorant and full of herself? Yep, definitely sounds like she's from Jersey.


> "Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not
>started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September
>11, 2001?

It started long before that, and as long as you all believe this, you're doomed to repeat history. Over and over and over.

But I agree with Spence, tear up the constitution, declare a police state, lets start more intern camps! GIT R DUN!

Civilians reported killed by military intervention in Iraq
Min: 66500 Max: 72800

Are you happy yet?

And on the winning hearts and minds front:


Friday 22 June:

Khalis: the US military announces that its attack helicopters, armed
with missiles, have engaged and killed 17 al-Qaeda gunmen who had been trying to
infiltrate the village of al-Khalis, north of Baquba, where operation
"Arrowhead Ripper" had been under way for the previous three days.

But villagers in largely-Shia al-Khalis say that those who died had nothing
to do with al-Qaeda. They say they were local village guards trying to
protect the township from exactly the kind of attack by insurgents the US
military says it foiled.
They say that of 16 guards, 11 were killed and five others injured - two of
them seriously - when US helicopters fired rockets at them and then strafed
them with heavy machinegun fire.
Minutes before the attack, they had been co-operating with an Iraqi police
unit raiding a suspected insurgent hideout, the villagers said.
They added that the guards, lightly armed with the AK47 assault rifles that
are a feature of practically every home in Iraq, were essentially a local
neighbourhood watch paid by the village to monitor the dangerous
insurgent-ridden area to the immediate south-west at Arab Shawkeh and
Hibhib.

THE VICTIMS
Jassem Khalil, the Mukhtar of Hayy al-Junoud; Abbas Khalil, his brother; Ali Khalil, his other brother; Kamal Hadi, their cousin;
Shaker Adnan; Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim; Mohammad al-Zubaie; Abbas Muzhir Fadhel; Jamal Hussein Alwan; Abdul Hussein Abdullah; Ali Jawad Kadhem

Fortunately, the vast majority of us agree with the "ignorant and full of herself" housewife from New Jersey.

Fortunately, the vast majority of us agree with the "ignorant and full of herself" housewife from New Jersey.

Thats just sad.

But I know, I know, the country is going to hell.
All these liberal teachers.
My girlfriend having her masters AND mba and I don't keep her in the kitchen pregnant.
All this premarital sex and all those drugs.

Hell I tell you!

Can someone point out to me where in the Constitution it covers countries outside of the US, Wars on foreign soils, treatment of prisoners of war etc. I thought, and I must be wrong, that the US CONSTITUTION covers The United States of America, and it's Citizens on this soil and not abroad.

Ignorant and full of herself? Yep, definitely sounds like she's from Jersey.



It started long before that, and as long as you all believe this, you're doomed to repeat history. Over and over and over.

But I agree with Spence, tear up the constitution, declare a police state, lets start more intern camps! GIT R DUN!



Are you happy yet?

And on the winning hearts and minds front:

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been in the military, LEO, a shootout, or anything that would qualify you to know exactly what was going on when these "innocent" people were fired upon. People are always quick to jump to conclusions without walking in the other persons shoes. Unfortunately innocent civillians getting killed in military ops has and will always be part of the price of doing business, no matter who's side you are on.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever been in the military, LEO, a shootout, or anything that would qualify you to know exactly what was going on when these "innocent" people were fired upon.

The better question is, has she?
I mean that's getting forwarded all over the internet, so you might as well make sure your source has.

Its easy to send an e-mail, its hard to stand up and question whats going on. Standing by and accepting what happens in the world is ignorant and foolish.

Go ahead, call me unamerican, call me a traitor, call me what you want, but if it wasn't for a bunch of people who questioned who was running the show, and didn't like what they were being forced to do or be, you wouldn't be here.

Whether or not she was has no bearing, all she is saying is that no matter what the troops are doing, they are in a %$%$%$%$ty situation, and anything they have done is not nearly half as bad as what those puke ass mother %$%$%$%$ing cowards did on 9-11, and she does'nt want you to forget that. Whether you agree with her or not, she makes a valid ploint that as the years have passed people in this country seem to forget. Whether you agree with the war, or the way it was started, who started it, does'nt mean anything, sure maybe there was'nt any Al Quaeda link back then, but you can't deny they are there now and that is who we are fighting

Now back to my question, you guys throw around the constitution stuff all of the time, so show me the section that cover non US citizens on foreign soil.

all she is saying is that no matter what the troops are doing, they are in a %$%$%$%$ty situation, and anything they have done is not nearly half as bad as what those puke ass mother %$%$%$%$ing cowards did on 9-11, and she does'nt want you to forget that.

She wants you to know that torture is ok!
As long as we're doing it and not them.

She wants you to know that **itting on another's religion is ok!
But I'd bet sure as hell she'd flip out at even mentioning one ill word of jesus.

By the way, make sure what you're reading is actually truthful.
In Saudi Arabia its illegal to own a bible? BS.

The (Saudi) Government guarantees and protects the right to private worship for all

Thank you wikipedia.

Albeit there are crimes against people who are not islamic, but then again, lets look at what our corn fed country boahs do here to muslims, gays, anyone that looks at them the wrong way.

sure maybe there was'nt any Al Quaeda link back then, but you can't deny they are there now and that is who we are fighting

Very narrow minded, they're not the only group there. The media knows the vast majority is stupid so Al Qaeda is an easy reference, there's probably 20+ individual groups sending fighters over the border right now to aid or fight against one another. But hey THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE RIGHT?!?!?!! LOLOLOLOL

Obviously this is all lib tree hugger speech that should be censored because it isn't all GIT R DUN! NUKE THE BASTARDS! WOOO GLASS PARKING LOT. So just disregard. :doh:

Ok I give up your always right, and everyone else is always wrong. Have a nice day.

She wants you to know that torture is ok!
As long as we're doing it and not them.

She wants you to know that **itting on another's religion is ok!
But I'd bet sure as hell she'd flip out at even mentioning one ill word of jesus.

By the way, make sure what you're reading is actually truthful.
In Saudi Arabia its illegal to own a bible? BS.

The (Saudi) Government guarantees and protects the right to private worship for all

Thank you wikipedia.

Albeit there are crimes against people who are not islamic, but then again, lets look at what our corn fed country boahs do here to muslims, gays, anyone that looks at them the wrong way.



Very narrow minded, they're not the only group there. The media knows the vast majority is stupid so Al Qaeda is an easy reference, there's probably 20+ individual groups sending fighters over the border right now to aid or fight against one another. But hey THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE RIGHT?!?!?!! LOLOLOLOL

Obviously this is all lib tree hugger speech that should be censored because it isn't all GIT R DUN! NUKE THE BASTARDS! WOOO GLASS PARKING LOT. So just disregard. :doh:



You need a forum for this stuff other than the left wing liberal blogosphere. Maybe you can bring all this good stuff up when you legislate talk radio.

Likwid maybe you should stop believing everything you read...






Saudi Arabia prohibits public non-Muslim religious activities. Non-Muslim worshipers risk arrest, imprisonment, lashing, deportation, and sometimes torture for engaging in overt religious activity that attracts official attention.

The Government has stated publicly, including before the U.N. Committee on Human Rights in Geneva, that its policy is to protect the right of non-Muslims to worship privately. However, non-Muslim organizations have claimed that there are no explicit guidelines for distinguishing between public and private worship, such as the number of persons permitted to attend and the types of locations that are acceptable. Such lack of clarity, as well as instances of arbitrary enforcement by the authorities, obliges most non-Muslims to worship in such a manner as to avoid discovery. Those detained for non-Muslim worship almost always are deported by authorities after sometimes lengthy periods of arrest during investigation. In some cases, they also are sentenced to receive lashes prior to deportation.





By the way this was taken from Wikipedia, and as you can see they torture you for practicing religion, as least we do it for intell to protect the populace...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_religious_freedom_in_Saudi_Arabia

sheethead terrorists: fukk 'em.

git r done! :D

She wants you to know that torture is ok!
As long as we're doing it and not them.

She wants you to know that **itting on another's religion is ok!
But I'd bet sure as hell she'd flip out at even mentioning one ill word of jesus.

By the way, make sure what you're reading is actually truthful.
In Saudi Arabia its illegal to own a bible? BS.

The (Saudi) Government guarantees and protects the right to private worship for all

Thank you wikipedia.

Albeit there are crimes against people who are not islamic, but then again, lets look at what our corn fed country boahs do here to muslims, gays, anyone that looks at them the wrong way.



Very narrow minded, they're not the only group there. The media knows the vast majority is stupid so Al Qaeda is an easy reference, there's probably 20+ individual groups sending fighters over the border right now to aid or fight against one another. But hey THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE RIGHT?!?!?!! LOLOLOLOL

Obviously this is all lib tree hugger speech that should be censored because it isn't all GIT R DUN! NUKE THE BASTARDS! WOOO GLASS PARKING LOT. So just disregard. :doh:


So I say yes it is ok for our military to torture combatants, they cut off Nick Berg's head while he was alive and kicking is that not torture. They did the same to Daniel Pearl is that not torture/ By the way they were not military but civilians, one reporting on the war, the other a businessman setting up telecomm work. But I guess it is ok for the fundamentalist to torture and kill civillians

You need a forum for this stuff other than the left wing liberal blogosphere. Maybe you can bring all this good stuff up when you legislate talk radio.

They already do. It's called Air America.........oh wait, thats right, Air America is bankrupt because most people don't believe and won't listen to that crap.
:)

You need a forum for this stuff other than the left wing liberal blogosphere. Maybe you can bring all this good stuff up when you legislate talk radio.

Oh I'm sorry, lets get back to the good ole boy git r dun attitude. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry I don't s the d of this administration and believe every BS line they spew forth. I'll go line up for my green uniform, national ID card, barcode tattoo and salute lessons immediately.

So I say yes it is ok for our military to torture combatants, they cut off Nick Berg's head while he was alive and kicking is that not torture.

But we're somehow a civilized country.
We're not a 3rd world country.

"When you kill a monster, be careful, lest you become the monster in the process."

Likwid maybe you should stop believing everything you read...

The same should be said about you and the country you live in.

I think I'm gonna start a "doesn't anyone remember Vietnam?" chain letter.

But we're somehow a civilized country.
We're not a 3rd world country.

irrelevent.

i admittedly haven't been jumping up and down about Iraq (not sure i really understood the causus belli ) ... but ...

incompetence of prior SecDef notwithstanding ... now that we're in the fight, we should win at all costs IMO. if that means fighting dirty, I'm for it. if it saves american lives (including U.S. airmen/sailors/soldiers/marines) ... then I'm for it.

there is no such thing as a fair fight and our adverseries could care less about rules. it's not like we're sparring the english or something like that (cease fire for mid-afternoon tea, gents).

the only rule should be: fight to win.

bash Bush all you want, but you can give him credit for at least having that as an end, even if the execution has sucked.

there is no such thing as a fair fight and our adverseries could care less about rules. it's not like we're sparring the english or something like that (cease fire for mid-afternoon tea, gents).

We're not?

QUICK! CALL THE PENTAGON! :faga:

git r done ... :buds:

Has anyone bothered to ask Charlie to apologize for Al Qaeda?

as liberal as i come across.... we have to finnish what we started over there and get out. The problem is that it is impossible to finnish what we started.

have any of you tried to wage war agianst a family of beavers?? you tear the damn down and they will build it back the next night...they will never stop until they die or you give in... there are millions of beavers in the middle east that will stop at nothing to get their way....

And just for the record it was obvious that this was going to happen and i wonder if the current administrations advisors wanted his to happen to get the $$$ flowing into the places that they wanted it to go to.. miltary spending, haliburton, etc...

in the end though we are there and we are f-ed if we pull out too early- its eather stay forever and create a nation similar to palestine with massive Gaza Strip like areas or just cut em loose and let them fight with themselves for eternity.

the stickler is that they have oil that we need. That is the real reason we are there.. we did not go there to steal it, we went there to secure it and make sure no one else could use it....

what a F-ing mess :hs:

as liberal as i come across....


rubber hugger. :doh:



:rotf2:

just cut em loose and let them fight with themselves for eternity...

i'm all for it.

one day, we won't need their stinkin oil and we could let the whole region rot or descend into nuclear obliteration as israel exercises its samson option.

or let those lazy europeans clean that mess up in their own back yard.

Damn Ben, you didn't even comment on my Charlie comment.
:hihi:

charlie, as in victor charlie? :tooth:

wait, i need to don my black pj's and sling an AK before I respond to that ... (likwid numbah 1, ROR)

threadjack.

i'm posting warm and fuzzy pics of toys you can't have in Mass or RI.

Have an MP-5 subgun. Take your pick. :angel:

http://paul-denise.phanfare.com/show/external/311793/420715/19265658/file.jpg

I knew the hochimin trail went through CT...:hihi:

i'm posting warm and fuzzy pics of toys you can't have in Mass or RI.

Have an MP-5 subgun. Take your pick.

http://paul-denise.phanfare.com/show/external/311793/420715/19265658/file.jpg

Could when they were agency issued, Ben. All gone now:faga: !

I type too slowly to get into this, so I'll just say "right on to The Specialist"

I think we should rip up the US Constitution and just follow what people tell us in in the Bible.

-spence

Spence--I like you, but I'll stick with the constitution.

charlie, as in victor charlie? :tooth:

wait, i need to don my black pj's and sling an AK before I respond to that ... (likwid numbah 1, ROR)

Charlie Wilson.
I'm sure you twitch every time you hear that name.

makes me twitch- he wrote sexual healing

yeah, i was wondering if you were talking about "sexual healing" charlie wilson :laughs: or texas congressman charlie wilson :sleeps:

makes what twitch....


George Castanza: I think it moved

[QUOTE=Bassturbed;503743]irrelevent.



now that we're in the fight, we should win at all costs IMO. if that means fighting dirty, I'm for it. if it saves american lives (including U.S. airmen/sailors/soldiers/marines) ... then I'm for it.



the only rule should be: fight to win.

:btu: ps- i agree with a lot of what nj woman says.

NJ chicks weird me out.

anyhoo, i'm a big fan of singer gretchen wilson. :jester:

i'm going shopping for furniture at this store. :heybaby:

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/louiegordon/pub/4003/HOTTIE.jpg

What I wouldn't give for a Mechanics Dolley right about now.....

:spin: it's almost friday. :spin:

http://www.schooners-wharf.com/beerbottles/bassale.gif

let's see

alcohol - check
firearms - check
hotties - check

what is this thread missing?

oh yeah, tobacco

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2004/11/12/2002086301.jpg

I think I'm gonna start a "doesn't anyone remember Vietnam?" chain letter.

I remember Vietnam and all my friends serving over there. I knew a few who died and many more that were disabled and still are. I remember that when Kennedy took office there were somewhere around 20,000 troops there. I also remember the "liberal democrats" escalating or troop surging up to 565,000 troops over the next several years. Even though there were secret negotiations to get our tropps out.

Ah John Kerry, three months in country, three purple hearts and a silver star. Kerry wrote his own reccomendations for all three awards. But I digress. If I go on I'll be hijacking the post.