anybody have this Fios for their internet? I am looking to getting it to replace Comcast altogether for internet and TV. It seems like a good deal. We have about 6 MBPS now with comcast and fios offers 5 mbps and 20 mbps, I think we'll start with 5, it's 10 bucks cheaper.
thoughts anyone? comments?

I like the little kid in the ad if that counts for anything. "You got your 1310, your 1490, and your 1550.............

I've had FIOS TV, internet, and phone since last December. No problems at all with anything. TV is $23/month less than Comcast and internet is 15/2 vs. I think 5M/256k for the same price ($45/month). I can't remember ever having an outage.

On the downside, Verizons on demand isn't as good as comcast. The other thing to be aware of is your phone will change to VOIP from copper, and is then reliant on you having power. They install a UPS so you'll have phone during shorter outages, but if you lost power for a long time, I think you'll lose phone eventually.

I just signed up for the whole package, phone internet and TV. I did it mainly for the TV since they have, by far, the best Hi Def serivce. The faster internet and the cheaper phone were side benefits. They'll be installing it in a couple of weeks.

I've had it for almost a year now and I love it. Phone,Internet, and TV....never had a problem.

but unfortunately it's not available at my new location... DRAT !:cool:

so that means i'm stuck with charter for internet service...

and they want $79 a month for a dsl connection... thats steep!

i'm looking at satellite service for $49.00 but
when your signal is blocked by weather
your S-t out of luck

Its 1/4 mile away, but not on my street :( My buddy has it and is very happy.

verizon has been sending me crap for years but its never available in my area. I WANT OFF COMCAST INTERNET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its 1/4 mile away, but not on my street :( My buddy has it and is very happy.


the more people that sign up for it on a particular street....

they get the service earlier than other streets because then verizon knows it has instant clientel on that street and it gets done first.

I am with Jimmy. Hoever, Mansfield and Verizon are bickering at each other have been for a good part of a year

I am with Jimmy. Hoever, Mansfield and Verizon are bickering at each other have been for a good part of a year

so even the crummy part of town doesnt have it either ? :p

your town officials........because...

a town i used to live in (Northboro) got all Huffy with Verizon

and voted to not allow fios in their town at all...

saying... you either give it to everyone or none at all... :eek:

I have been thinking about it, I hate comcast I think when they say "its comcastic" it meens it will break and have crappy customer service

I have the internet & phone >>>TV on Saturday >><

so even the crummy part of town doesnt have it either ? :p

Yes no where in 02048 is there FIOS

thanks for the replies
We are gonna do it
The biggest reason for switching is to get away from Comcast the monopoly, and to save about 45 bucks total. Also to get the NFL channel without having to pay extra for it since comcast realigned their channels so we can't get NFL without paying extra for it.

they have a special deal for 99 bucks all 3 internet,phone and TV, but ofcourse there is extras, but we still save money.

Slip,
I got a flyer on my door that offered all three for $95. By the time I got done with the Hi Def DV-R, The sports & Movie package and HBO and Std. Def in the bedrooms it came out to $144 a month.

yep, and the wife adds stuff to the phone that we have now like 4 bucks for wire maintenence on phonelines, then you have to have the TV boxes, she wants the DVR , and then there's taxes, ends up around 150 and we are paying about 200 for all three now.

do business with Charter communications EVER again

i was just reading about their installation requirements

and they won't let you do anything yourself and that clinched it..

so i will be getting a satellite dish for
my broadband internet connection
instead of getting bent over by those bastids

all paid for today and i'll be up and running
right on schedual... :btu:

Slip - you are going to love it. I signed up for the whole bang long ago and find the service excellent. I now get everything in one bill. 2 land lines, cells, cable, internet and I saved a bundle over RCN.
I also found that when there is a problem they answer quickly and have knowledgable techs to talk to. Speeeek engelisc also!:rotf2: :grins: :rotf2:

Speeeek engelisc also!:rotf2: :grins: :rotf2:

I've dealt with Verizon DSL tech support several times and my main complaint was non-English speaking agents..Can't understand a f%$#@ word they say..:af: JohnR can confirm that one..:call: :call:
What I dislike about the Verizon deal is that you have to sign a 2 yr contract..F that

so even the crummy part of town doesnt have it either ? :p

There are bloofish in your brakes

Slip as others say, you will love it. The stuff is selling like gangbusters.

The speeds currently offered are 5/2 mbs, 20/5, and 50/10. Just to clarify the phone is not Voip, it uses a separate bandwith on the fiber, the power supply, and battery back-up are for the equipment that changes the light to a digital signal at the house. You are on your own fiber, sharing with noone,which means that when johny rotten comes home from school and starts dowloading your speed will not drop unlike the competition. Also the competition's phone is Voip, so when their internet is down so is your phone.

Bruce the inside wire maintence will save you 95 bucks for a service call if the trouble is inside the house, but since you know a phoneguy.....

BTW the tech support for DSL maybe in India, but the tech Support for Fios is here, they actually have an office in Providence, Virginia, California, and Texas, that was a union negotiated thing with the FIOS.

Thats all for now gotta go install some light....:uhuh:

Slip as others say, you will love it. The stuff is selling like gangbusters.

The speeds currently offered are 5/2 mbs, 20/5, and 50/10. Just to clarify the phone is not Voip, it uses a separate bandwith on the fiber, the power supply, and battery back-up are for the equipment that changes the light to a digital signal at the house. You are on your own fiber, sharing with noone,which means that when johny rotten comes home from school and starts dowloading your speed will not drop unlike the competition. Also the competition's phone is Voip, so when their internet is down so is your phone.

Bruce the inside wire maintence will save you 95 bucks for a service call if the trouble is inside the house, but since you know a phoneguy.....

BTW the tech support for DSL maybe in India, but the tech Support for Fios is here, they actually have an office in Providence, Virginia, California, and Texas, that was a union negotiated thing with the FIOS.

Thats all for now gotta go install some light....:uhuh:


That was True Quam

BTW the tech support for DSL maybe in India, but the tech Support for Fios is here, they actually have an office in Providence, Virginia, California, and Texas, that was a union negotiated thing with the FIOS.
light....:uhuh:
Now that's good to know.:humpty:

Just Got it today >>can,t f#$%^&*( figure it out /but it awesome //:confused:

Just Got it today >>can,t f#$%^&*( figure it out /but it awesome //:confused:
Yup, picture is crazy awesome, never seen anything like it. Clammer can only watch one channel out of the 800 he pays for because he can't figure how to use the remote..:smash:

Ya know where I,m heading tomorrow >wanna tow ????

come back & tank-up :eyes:

Did you guys see the new video menu, and onscreen guide we put out this week. Instead of the title of the movie, there are icons of the dvd box cover click on the icon for info, pretty cool stuff :cheers:

see what I mean..........

Bill, that wasn't working as of yesterday.

Verizon uses my companies equipment so the more installs that are done the more equipment Verizon will need....keep going guys! My company stock price is up 13$ in the last 3 months....WOO HOO!!

Damn they have soooooooooooooo much stuff ..; there regular picture is very close to HD :jump1:

// they don,t have anywhere the selection of Pay movies as cox & they are $1 higher ; :vamp:


there adult is only XX & $15 -$16 a movie :smash:

Mike keep in mind that this is still new, they are adding stuff, and changing stuff all the time in order to give the consumer the best bang for the buck.

Dave I am not sureif they did the software download yet for RI, but that is what you have to look forward too.


Lurch who do you work for?

Verizon uses my companies equipment so the more installs that are done the more equipment Verizon will need....keep going guys! My company stock price is up 13$ in the last 3 months....WOO HOO!!


And You couldn't mention this to any of your fishing Pals.......

After praising FIOS, I find that my repace battery light is on and I need a new battery. I called service and the tech told me that I have to buy and replace the battery. The FIOS service is only one year old. Anyone know where I can buy a PX12072-12v battery and how much they cost?

Just talk to a phone guy when you see one onthe street,maybe buy him a cup of joe...

wow ;;

ya wanna see the line @ cox in warwick today >> with people returning the cox equipment ><><><:liquify:

Lurch who do you work for?

Juniper Networks...WOO HOO!! :jump1:

Verizon uses my companies equipment so the more installs that are done the more equipment Verizon will need....keep going guys! My company stock price is up 13$ in the last 3 months....WOO HOO!!

Lurch - I hope you don't make the battery back up unit. The life of the battery is supposed to be 2 to 4 years. My battery croaked in one year. I called FIOS and they tell me that the battery is my dollar. I have been using FIOS a over the year. Too bad I didn't notice the trouble light sooner.:(

We provide the networking gear (routers) that all of the IP (voice, video and data)traffic flows over.

Its being installed as I type. Report back later.

I got Cox for everything.No problems fair prices and they've had the fiberoptic backbone for a while just never made a big deal.I got 15mb down and 3mb up for net and Digital package.I don't watch TV so who cares about that.I don't Use the phone so don't care about that.The internet works always.Very rarely slows down.I was told if I want fios I would need to have an electrican install an outlet of some sort in my apartment .Thats b)115h17 so screw that I'll stay with cox cable.I hear verizon is just as good I'm sure you'll like it better than Comcrap.Never herd a good word about them.

I got it.
It saves me money.
the TV channels aren't as good but it is still worth it even if I want to add movies.

The people that we dealt with on the phones didn't give us what we wanted and we had to call and let then know about how we wanted it set up. That is why we wanted it in writing after we had decided on what we wanted but we never got anything in writing. It is all squared away now.

I think the picture might even be a bit clearer than cable. Now if someday I can afford to buy a real TV instead of the antiquated one, then I'll be able to see what all the hype is about high def.

does verizon do a la carte?

Verizon does'nt do Ala Carte to my knowledge. They also don't charge you extra for digital content. I don't do billing, just installation, and maintainence. It's new, and there a re bound to be glitches, and bumps in the road, but it will get better.

Gone fishing you can get a battery at any electrical supply that sells alarm equipment. If you are really having trouble finding one pm me. Just so you know, the battery is warrantied for 1 year, and then it is the customers responsibility. We were never told that it should last 3-4 years, but I am not saying that someone did not tell you that,that being said we don't know how long they sit on a shelf in a warehouse either. Also know that the Phone company spends an average of 2,500.00 per customer to get you this service, and you pay nothing for the Optical Network Terminal, Battery Backup Unit, Power Supply, or wireless networking router. You also pay nothing for the installation.


Here is a link where you can order one online: http://www.apexbattery.com/12-volt-8-ah-alarm-battery-ub1280-home-security-systems-alarm-batteries-backup-batteries.html

Measure the size of your battery, it is a 12v 8amp hour battery

Specialist, where you out of, Brockton?

I work PPM out of Summer St.

Gonefishin, I don't know why they told you you have to pay for the battery :huh: maybe the person you spoke to was misinformed. The guy that installed ours said they replace them free, he even said he could give me one.

FB I work out of Woodrock RD I am sure you know where that is... :bl:

Bruce after the year is up they are supposed to charge you for the battery, that being said there are plenty of guys who are sympathetic to the needs of the customer :angel:

You mean Woodwock Woad? Tell Carlton that Tom O. says hi.

I almost bid that job when those bids were out. I can't bear to go back to I&M.

I've been at Summer St for the past 7 years, before that I spent time on the Vineyard and Pearl St. Just had my 20th anny last week.

FB I work out of Woodrock RD I am sure you know where that is... :bl:

Bruce after the year is up they are supposed to charge you for the battery, that being said there are plenty of guys who are sympathetic to the needs of the customer :angel:


Bill, one year? well what if you have a 2 year contract? :huh:

Question for you Verizon guys out there, how difficult is it likely to be to pull back on a cable in an underground conduit to get a rope through and then pull the cable and the FIOS line back through the tube?

What size is the conduit, and what is in it now? Is there catv in it, or telephone cable?

Generally if it is a phone drop, we tie a string on and pull it through using the old drop, only downfall is if one breaks...

Bruce think of it like a cellphone plan, they give you the phone for just about nothing, and they usually have a 1 year warranty on the phone, but you usually sign a 2 year committment for the service. You will never have to worry about your battery though ;)

If the catv and telco drops are in the same conduit, you might have a problem because they might be twisted. There's also the possibility that the drop needed to be repaired at some point and there's a splice on it.

A little elbow grease is probably all you'll need.

We provide the networking gear (routers) that all of the IP (voice, video and data)traffic flows over.

Lurch, are you at Juniper in Westford? We might be work neighbors.

Right now there are two CATV cables in the conduit. I was going to use one to pull two strings back through the coanduit and then use one of the string to pull the CATV cable and the FIOS cable back into the house. I'll leave one trace for future use. Do you guys use dish detergent to lube up the cables like we do with the coax when we have to run it through tight spaces on boats?

Meh, if you can't get it going it might help. I've never personally used any lubricant but I guess it's not the worst idea in the world. Try doing it without the lubricant first. You'll just have a big mess.

The fire department in town uses our holes for their alarm cables and they always use lubricant. It makes a mess of the whole manhole. I bet they do it on purpose!:poke:

Mike if they try and pull the drop in and it is pre-connectorised then the connect barely fits in a 1" conduit, but it is doable. They can cut the connector off, and the drop will go, then they can splice on a connector at the house.

Righyt now all I have is about a 40 feet coil of FIOS cable at the base of the last pole, no connector on the end. It looks pretty thin and I think it should go with no problem. Actually all they asked me to do was to pull a trace through, and they said they would pull the cable.

Lurch, are you at Juniper in Westford? We might be work neighbors.

yes I am!

:hang:Had a major problem with connecting to my top clients web site ........................ over a week // they were about to drop me ................ called for help /
Billy [Specialist] & johnR ................

Bill did what he could from MA. ..John came right over 1,2,3, ;



was instructed to contact TI .. 1st time I did after a short wait / &&&&&&& a whole lotta talking to a F $#%^&*( computer that she said she could help me ;; B/S

&&&&&&& the TI guy came up short .>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried calling again /& after the F $%^*() talking computer >>> 20 minute wait .. no answer //again 15 Minute wait / hung up //

John talked to Bill & f-18 a couple of times && he fixed the f $%^&*() problem from his own home ;;

awesome job >>>>>>>> this is a prime example where a piece of paper is %$%$%$%$ compared to knowledge ;;

all in all >>>>>>>> to say the least I [AM[ very dissappointed with the service & lack there of with Verizon ;;
I have to admit / the times I nneded CoX Cable service // they were[are] always there ;; If this happens again / F $%^&*( the two yesr contract >>>>>>> I,ll be back to C/C in a heartbeat ;;

also ita a dditional cost to get the descent HD channels ..............

no ESPN for one :whackin:

:hang:Had a major problem with connecting to my top clients web site ........................ over a week // they were about to drop me ................ called for help /
Billy [Specialist] & johnR ................

Bill did what he could from MA. ..John came right over 1,2,3, ;



was instructed to contact TI .. 1st time I did after a short wait / &&&&&&& a whole lotta talking to a F $#%^&*( computer that she said she could help me ;; B/S

&&&&&&& the TI guy came up short .>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried calling again /& after the F $%^*() talking computer >>> 20 minute wait .. no answer //again 15 Minute wait / hung up //

John talked to Bill & f-18 a couple of times && he fixed the f $%^&*() problem from his own home ;;

awesome job >>>>>>>> this is a prime example where a piece of paper is %$%$%$%$ compared to knowledge ;;

all in all >>>>>>>> to say the least I [AM[ very dissappointed with the service & lack there of with Verizon ;;
I have to admit / the times I nneded CoX Cable service // they were[are] always there ;; If this happens again / F $%^&*( the two yesr contract >>>>>>> I,ll be back to C/C in a heartbeat ;;

also ita a dditional cost to get the descent HD channels ..............

no ESPN for one :whackin:

Yup, been to his house several times...F^%$#@ TV is ^%$#@ boken,,Don't F^%$#@ work...VZ F^%$#@ SUX...I hit one button on the remote and it mysteriously works....:buds:

Now get some sleep...I need a ride at 7am....:shocked:

F/U

all nighter // come over /big enough to share :drool:

F/U

all nighter // come over /big enough to share :drool:

U s/m %$#@! Get the %$#@! up...I'll be over....

MAKOMIKE here's how you do it...

Take a small piece of rag.... Tie it to a piece of polypropylene electricians pull string...this stuff is very lightweight but very strong. Stuff it in the conduit...go to the other end and take a standard vacuum cleaner and stick it over as much of the piece of conduit as you can...if it leaks then wrap a rag around it. It will suck the line right thru the conduit right beside what's there...in about 4 seconds your done.

On new conduit you can use a "mouse" that ties to the line and sucks thru, this is how I do it, but if your thrifty you can save yourself alot of time and aggravation....I do this stuff all the time and I can pull a cable in a 1000' conduit in about 5 minutes flat :hee:

Works on T top legs too :hee:

As far as dish detergent for pull soap...use the electricians pull lube...it dries to powder and makes less of a mess later on. You shouldnt need it if you got a helper. If it feels like it's getting tight then pull back and you should be able to move through the tough spot if you pull without stopping.

Mike what was the cause of the trouble, how did John fix it. They give you the hidef channels with a hidef box no xtra charge.

Ya gotta ask John IDFK

I get a limited amount of HD channels & the box ain,t free >>> ..

thanks again Bill >>

MIKE

Mike nobody's boxes are free, we don't charge extra for the channels. If you already subscribe to a channel, and there is an HD equivalent they give it to you when you et a box. Concast charges for the box, extra for the digital service, and extra for the HD channels.

Bill

if you look on line ..> they give you specific channels not all

if you want /in my opinion / the better HD channels /you have to pay extra ;;

right now the onlY One I feel makes a difference is NESN >>>>>>>>>>> personally ICGAF .if I watched the news in HD //

these ARE extra if I want to pay for them ;;

TNT
ESPN
ESPN2
NFL NETWORK
FSN--NE
DISCOVERY >>>which is the best / had it with Cox
National Geo
Plus 8 more @@

right now in the package is NESN ..great
NBC
FOX
PBS
CBS
ABC
PBS
& CW

with the quality I receive with the regular picture /ICGAF / if MSI, CSI, Rescue Me, ETC are in HD or not ;;

JUST M/O

Mike those HD channels you are saying you have to pay extra for, are free with an HD box with an HD box you get the HD Broadcast, and the HD Nationals. The only ones that are extra is the movie channels tha you have to subscribe to. If you are not getting those channels call in. You should have 20+ HD channels.

yes I am!
I'm over in building 5 (IBM). We walk through your parking lot every day during our lunchtime loop around the office park.

I guess your stock is doing well, there's a lot of nice cars in that lot. :btu:

I,ll call first thing >AM ... R/N watching the R/S try not to blow //[IT}

I'm over in building 5 (IBM). We walk through your parking lot every day during our lunchtime loop around the office park.

I guess your stock is doing well, there's a lot of nice cars in that lot. :btu:

One person here just bought a lotus....MUST BE NICE!!

Maybe I should sell some more and by a ZB :)

Finally got it installed yesterday, pulling the trace for athe FIOS cable was a bitch! BTW- bought some of that wire puller lube, its not half as good as the old dihswashing detergent! The TV and internet looks GREAT!

Just have to say that now that its up and running, this combo of FIOS and my Samsung DLP are absolutely unbelievable. I thought the TV was great with cable, but this combo will just blow you away!

Good to hear, man. We don't have it in our town yet.

i was ready to get FIOS, but the annoying sales people that come to my house every other day are beginning to annoy me.

Also, I for some reason they can't do three phone lines/numbers???? Whats up with that?

I've had FIOS TV, internet, and phone since last December. No problems at all with anything. TV is $23/month less than Comcast and internet is 15/2 vs. I think 5M/256k for the same price ($45/month). I can't remember ever having an outage.

On the downside, Verizons on demand isn't as good as comcast. The other thing to be aware of is your phone will change to VOIP from copper, and is then reliant on you having power. They install a UPS so you'll have phone during shorter outages, but if you lost power for a long time, I think you'll lose phone eventually.
you r right about the Phone the battery is only good for 3 hours :spin:

Mike those HD channels you are saying you have to pay extra for, are free with an HD box with an HD box you get the HD Broadcast, and the HD Nationals. The only ones that are extra is the movie channels tha you have to subscribe to. If you are not getting those channels call in. You should have 20+ HD channels.

The HD box in itself costs extra.Nothing's free.It costs extra.

Standard Cox Digital already comes with 20 Hd channels as long as you've an HD capable TV.Movie channels you'd have to pay for anyways.

Verizon(w/fios) has a very,very long way to go even to possibly be competative with established companies like Cox in either the business or the residential field.

I spent way to many years dealing with verizon phone,DSL and satellite tv.When Verizon can do something better than make FIOS that much faster than my already existing business internet and provide even slightly better tv and phone service,I might switch but the price would have to be right.

Every company charges extra for an HD box, they cost the companies more money. Verizon does'nt charge extra for digital service like other companies, they also offer many channels with their package that you pay extra for with other comapnies. The product speaks for itself. Are there going to be bumps in the road, absolutely.

BTW I have worked for a major cable company, and have done Direct tv, so I know the difference and I know the better product.

The HD box in itself costs extra.Nothing's free.It costs extra.

Standard Cox Digital already comes with 20 Hd channels as long as you've an HD capable TV.Movie channels you'd have to pay for anyways.

Verizon(w/fios) has a very,very long way to go even to possibly be competative with established companies like Cox in either the business or the residential field.

I spent way to many years dealing with verizon phone,DSL and satellite tv.When Verizon can do something better than make FIOS that much faster than my already existing business internet and provide even slightly better tv and phone service,I might switch but the price would have to be right.

I can tell you that even on the Non-HD channels the FIOS is far far better than the cox cable it replaced. We used to have lost of interference on the cable, particularly on the low number channels, now every channel is clear as a bell. The reception with FIOS has to be at least five times better than it was with Cox.

I can tell you that even on the Non-HD channels the FIOS is far far better than the cox cable it replaced. We used to have lost of interference on the cable, particularly on the low number channels, now every channel is clear as a bell. The reception with FIOS has to be at least five times better than it was with Cox.

But you PAY for that clarity and slight increase in speed.

Like I said until Verizon can truly make it worth my time I might switch.The minor amount of clarity on tv and the slight increase in internet speed will never justify the cost.

"Make it cheaper and they will buy."

It's actually cheaper than most cable companies. Everyone I know who has got it was suprised to see how much their bills went down. The internet is considerably faster.

If you don't have it, how can you knock it?

But you PAY for that clarity and slight increase in speed.

Like I said until Verizon can truly make it worth my time I might switch.The minor amount of clarity on tv and the slight increase in internet speed will never justify the cost.

"Make it cheaper and they will buy."

I'm paying less now with Verizon for my Cable/internet/phone service that I used to pay with Cox. Better service at less coast is a winner in my book. You want to pay for more for substandard service, that is certainly your perogative.

Last post here was over a year ago, but I wanted to see if people's feelings about FIOS were generally the same. We just got it. A little bit of an ordeal getting the cable run and everything up and running, but it seems fine. The folks at the cable company were downright nasty when we called to cancel service with them and told both my wife and then me that we were not going to save money and would end up paying more.

I'm still very happy with the FIOS and we have it over 1 year now.

Mansfield still wont work with Verzion to get it.