I am looking at new things to do to the site and I want to ask you residentia of PLug Building Kingdom what suggestions you may have or things you want from the forum. This is not from a commercial or selling sense, purely from a forum sense. I have some time that I can spend and I want to tweak the site up a level so I'm curious what YOU would like to see ;)

Thankyouallforcomin'

How about increasing the amount of pics per post you can put up?I think its set to only two at the moment.

I'd like to see the forum more appealing to new plug builders. I'd like them not to be intimidated and feel welcome. Many first time plug makers found this site and did very well on their own doing searches and finding most of their answers on their own, but when they do have questions, it would be nice that they can feel comfortable asking. There are many how to's on here which is great. There also is a trend for some to go from novice to pro in a short time, I find that to be a bit :rotflmao: laughable as it is tough to produce a proven plug in a short amount of time, they should be tested,tweaked and catch fish for atleast a full season before being sold IMO. Nothing wrong with selling a plug or 6 here and there to offset some costs, ya can't get rich doing this but it's the serious builders that sell large amounts that should post their wares in the sponsors forums, that is what they are for. sorry I wandered off subject.

Lu has a good point

How about increasing the amount of pics per post you can put up?I think its set to only two at the moment.

Working on that ;)

I'd like to see the forum more appealing to new plug builders. I'd like them not to be intimidated and feel welcome. Many first time plug makers found this site and did very well on their own doing searches and finding most of their answers on their own, but when they do have questions, it would be nice that they can feel comfortable asking. There are many how to's on here which is great. There also is a trend for some to go from novice to pro in a short time, I find that to be a bit :rotflmao: laughable as it is tough to produce a proven plug in a short amount of time, they should be tested,tweaked and catch fish for atleast a full season before being sold IMO. Nothing wrong with selling a plug or 6 here and there to offset some costs, ya can't get rich doing this but it's the serious builders that sell large amounts that should post their wares in the sponsors forums, that is what they are for. sorry I wandered off subject.

Lu has a good point


Wholeheartedly agree ;)

Less commercial builder spam, they have the sponsors section, stay there. No offense but I always thought that the plug building thread as a place to learn and share both knowledge and pics of what one has accomplished by visiting and joining in by just guys/girls doing it for the enjoyment not profit. There is nothing wrong with profiting but the sponsors area is made for that. No spam thank you mam.

I would also like to see an archive page that you could go to not only for the written (typed) word but members pics of pluggage specifically. That would be nice. You know all pics by Numbskull or tagger or Chumbucket in one place in a collection, no words just pics.

I don't think we need to drive off the commerical guys. These guys add a lot of quality and experience to the site. Their input has helped me a lot and I enjoy seeing what they are working on. Guys like Scott, Mac, Bernzy, Don, and Ryan obviously love plugs. If you love plugs and are willing to help others, you should feel welcome here.

Less commercial builder spam, they have the sponsors section, stay there. No offense but I always thought that the plug building thread as a place to learn and share both knowledge and pics of what one has accomplished by visiting and joining in by just guys/girls doing it for the enjoyment not profit. There is nothing wrong with profiting but the sponsors area is made for that. No spam thank you mam.


I don't think we need to drive off the commerical guys. These guys add a lot of quality and experience to the site. Their input has helped me a lot and I enjoy seeing what they are working on. Guys like Scott, Mac, Bernzy, Don, and Ryan obviously love plugs. If you love plugs and are willing to help others, you should feel welcome here.


And in between these two is the balance that we want to find regarding "commercial" builders

I would also like to see an archive page that you could go to not only for the written (typed) word but members pics of pluggage specifically. That would be nice. You know all pics by Numbskull or tagger or Chumbucket in one place in a collection, no words just pics.

Working on that ;) - but you guys would need to collect your photos in one place

It wouild be nice if when some one goes to a Learning forum such as the Lure Forum to learn and share ideas. Other members Should'nt be allowed to make false statements accusing them of things that aren't true.

Sportyguy - I don't know you and I'm not sure how on the level you are. What I do know is that there is a swarm of, well, uncertainty around your status here, and some of that is based on your, uhh, history on the "other" site. What I don't want to see is you using these boards to spam for personal gain. What I think some of the member builders that have been here for a while may feel is that you are trying to shortcut much of the builders learning curve. You haven't been building plugs that long, right?

Someone want to PM me the Sportsters link?

Thanks....

I don't think we need to drive off the commerical guys. These guys add a lot of quality and experience to the site. Their input has helped me a lot and I enjoy seeing what they are working on. Guys like Scott, Mac, Bernzy, Don, and Ryan obviously love plugs. If you love plugs and are willing to help others, you should feel welcome here.

sportato is hardly in the same category as the guys you mentioned.

gawd pls can we just punt him??:wall:

It wouild be nice if when some one goes to a Learning forum such as the Lure Forum to learn and share ideas. Other members Should'nt be allowed to make false statements accusing them of things that aren't true.

well if the shoe fits .... ..

:rollem:

ok boys and girls, from now on everyone please speak the truth:rtfm:

More plugs, less :smash: Those who don't get the message :lasso: :hang: Its a sure way to drive folks away from a cool site.

To some extent, I agree with Flaptail. Seeing some of the one off stuff that commercal guys do :claps: :btu: no problem with that. Everyone enjoys some plug porn and these guys can do some good stuff :uhuh: The "look what I just made and will be selling next week :spam: " should stay on the sponser forum.

Some good ideas from some of the gang that are being addressed, so I'll :hidin:

Jigman

I would also like to see an archive page that you could go to not only for the written (typed) word but members pics of pluggage specifically. That would be nice. You know all pics by Numbskull or tagger or Chumbucket in one place in a collection, no words just pics.


that wood be pretty to see, but on the flip side it would also give the up and coming comm. builder a fine place to see styles ,colors,types, sizes of plugs..OH! I like that one , maybe I'll add it to my new line.As well as getting pm's wanting to buy them ,,,

I'm a hobbiest when it comes to building plugs but have to say that there will always be those that take advantage of a good thing no matter what and we should not punish all those others willing to learn
because of a few unscrupules people.Keep the info comming cause i still need help.I'm just like Tagger i'll be ready to sell plugs in the year 2017 till then i need to pick all of your brains.:rotf2: Ohh and Tagger if ya ever need a partner:wavey: LMAF

this can be the pic on the front page lol:rotf3: http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/smitty919/Picture114.jpg

I may BE Commercial Builder, But I have a Hobby also,When Not making Commercial Plugs I like to Tinker.

How about ... "Plug of the Month".... Has to be a pic posted that month and Poll voting to pic a winner . At the end of the year there should be 12 entrys for" Plug of the Year ". Again Poll voting so public is involved and the winner wins a prize . Prize could be a plug builders dream box ,, contents would be like lips,eyes,weights,hooks, equal to a certain amount like $100.00 or they could just take the 100... Or all 12 entrys could be auctioned off and winner takes all .. If you don't want in but still want to post just state your plug is not an entry .. This would get the pics and forum rolling .. not to mention bragging rights ..

where certain plugs are to be traded individually ....

that would generate some interest.:rtfm:

Sorry Ed.. me no likey,, kinda another form of spam, in my book.. "this plug was plug of the month!".. no cash, contests, or testosterone... keep it "friendly".. if ya want plug of the month, call OTW.. i hear from somone whos gotten it, thats about all ya gotta do, to get it ;)

Sorry Karl Fahhrvral, I likey ;) :tm: - regardless of how OTW handles their POM, perhaps here, a poll where people could vote once per month would be a way to go and fair. I don't think it would be spam at all. We'd need some rules too. Must be member for 6 months (stop some drivebys)? Commercial or not can be discussed? Win once your out for entering for 6 months, Lots of good ideas could be done on this...

Of course, I would need to validate plug winners...

(by the way, I like having this forum on the menu, near the G.O.P. now :kewl:)

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4.) Sorry Slip, I gotta disagree, but no bootlegging here either, the selling of 6, 12, 24, or a couple hundred a year, without paying excise tax, or any revenue, should not be encouraged. Does it go on? Of Course!.. But, let’s not encourage it, or let it happen in this forum. I am currently reading some interesting facts.. I will probably post a thread on this topic late fall early winter, when we need a Hot Stove Topic :hihi:

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I didn't imply that bootleggers not pay taxes Karl and I don't think we'd encourage it. I don't know how you got that conclusion from what I said. That's fine, no selling, keep it as a hobby for making plugs for ourselves to fish. I pay all my taxes, I keep track of all my reciepts, if someone wants to sell a plug or 12, it's up to them to pay the excise tax etc. If there is selling going on, as far as I know it's just reselling as far as this site and the classifieds go.

I'll be looking to see what you will post.





Habs :) I know you like it as a hobby also and like to tinker, that's good. Us amatures appreciate the helpful tips and hints from the pros now and then, we don't want to exclude any of those type contributions.

Habs, Lab1, afterhours, salty, bigfish, mac, bernzy, CS theres absolutely nothing wrong with these guys posts. They all contribute to the forum, and help out with the site overall.

My issue is with random guys who come on with veiled attempts to sell their stuff, under the 'guise of wanting to learn. Again the guys I mentioned and Im sure I missed some, nothing against commercial guys AT ALL.

Its cool I love to see the stuff you guys do like hab said he likes to tinker, hell man thats awesome after all how many black and purple needles can you paint before you say to yourself damn, I'd like to make something else. Again, that type of stuff I love! Its great and I'm greatful of you guys sharing that here, with us.

My issue is with the random guy, who does not contribute to anything. Not a sponsor. Never gives to the site/ forum and does nothing but take take take. Then becomes a "company" or business, I dont know maybe I'm painting a picture with too broad a brush, but I hope you guys get what Im trying to say.

Send me plugs, there are peanuts around and I dont have any small ones. That will be all.

well john, first off its pronounced Favor, as in Do Me One ;).. :D I know that :hihi: It was a long shot reference to how Ben Stiller says Brett Farve's name in "Something About Mary", it was a tremendous longshot of a joke so I wasn't sure if people would pick up on it - thouigh I think you and I talked about that before :hihi:

Opinions.. everybody got 'em.. just espressin mine..not that it counts for nuttin'..

not that i'd ever win.. I know better.. and I'll say it.. 'cause I know thats what some of yas are thinkin :D

I do see the potential for it to become a popularity contest.. and encourage the ego to take the next step.. sellin by PM.. and the like...

yer the boss John.. as ya see fit there Capn'

See Ya!

I highly value your opinion - honest. And taking in some of your opinion, opinion of others here, and my thinking, mix it up, and we might find a way to make it work and be good for the builders board. Lot's of places that make things, from boats to software to tackle - have a "Blank" of the Month. If we could find a proper way to do it here, it's worth looking into. If it sucks, we won't do it...

Habs, Lab1, afterhours, salty, bigfish, mac, bernzy, CS theres absolutely nothing wrong with these guys posts. They all contribute to the forum, and help out with the site overall.

My issue is with random guys who come on with veiled attempts to sell their stuff, under the 'guise of wanting to learn. Again the guys I mentioned and Im sure I missed some, nothing against commercial guys AT ALL.

Its cool I love to see the stuff you guys do like hab said he likes to tinker, hell man thats awesome after all how many black and purple needles can you paint before you say to yourself damn, I'd like to make something else. Again, that type of stuff I love! Its great and I'm greatful of you guys sharing that here, with us.

My issue is with the random guy, who does not contribute to anything. Not a sponsor. Never gives to the site/ forum and does nothing but take take take. Then becomes a "company" or business, I dont know maybe I'm painting a picture with too broad a brush, but I hope you guys get what Im trying to say.

Send me plugs, there are peanuts around and I dont have any small ones. That will be all.

We get more spam than is fun on the boards for certain. Some guys will always try to take advantage of others as well. Unfortunate but true. So we will try to be accurate when that happens.

What's the best way to figure it out?

We're going to need an easy button :humpty:

So what if a guy who sells lures that don't compete against any of the sponsors wants to be a part of the Lure Forum. Are they not allowed to ask question or share pictures of the lure they make that they DON"T intend to sell but trade or swap? For example the needle fish I made and the thread got yanked. That lure was never intended to be sold to anyone It was mae for a Swap. Why shouldn't I be allowed to be apart of this learning forum if I'm not selling plugs to it's members? Is it only for a Select few builders who decides who gets to post?


just use common sense
that's the simple answer

[QUOTE=ThrowingTimber;521195]Habs, Lab1, afterhours, salty, bigfish, mac, bernzy, CS theres absolutely nothing wrong with these guys posts. They all contribute to the forum, and help out with the site overall.


Ahhh! Errr!Hummm! how come I feel like I was just branded a comm. maker of fish foolers.:eek5: free plugs..shpin an hldin 19.95 @:hihi:

Nothing like that CS didnt just list commerical guys I hope I didnt give you that impression. Sorry if I did. Just listing quality builders who all contribute to the site and help out etc, field questions. And occasionally just blow folks minds with the stuff theyre making.

Start another post to air this stuff out ,, Spamming ,, being up front with every one ..lieing ,,, cheating ,, using your freinds ..doing your time... being contributing member ,, feeling cheap and dirty.. being a user .,,oneway street .. me me me .. Your hard work ,my icecream ..:thanks:

Now back to "Plug of the Month"---"Plug of the Year" it should be self supporting .. Maybe auction off monthly winners to reward yearly winner.. To enter monthly you must be willing to part with your plug .. On these polls you can only vote once .. Plug of the year may also be displayed on the front page with bio on builder .. Whole goal is to get people posting pics again .. Other issues may also be a factor in that ..

forget this way to much drama in this place:mad:

Nothing like that CS didnt just list commerical guys I hope I didnt give you that impression. Sorry if I did. Just listing quality builders who all contribute to the site and help out etc, field questions. And occasionally just blow folks minds with the stuff theyre making.

Just havin abit-o-fun with ya....2007 been a year from he-llo.Pay no nevermind to me.

You all carry on and don't let plug buildin get all ya undies in a bunch..it's just suppose to be something fun to do.:uhuh:

The best plugs won't necessarily win. The only guys who would have a chance to win would be one of the the Good ole Boys.

Not sure if I'm a Good Ole Boy .?? :hee: definition of best plug ? best catcher or best looking ? My intterest is more in performance now .. Otherwise its just arm exercise and these guns don't need that .. I've never won nothing .. plugfest ,, nothing ,, not even a close third .. :crying: .. thats ok .. i suc ,, just trying to pic up pace here .. not trying to win stuff .. Ok .. rule .. my idea ,, I can't enter .. works for me ,, :hee:

Not sure if I'm a Good Ole Boy .?? :hee: definition of best plug ? best catcher or best looking ? My intterest is more in performance now .. Otherwise its just arm exercise and these guns don't need that .. I've never won nothing .. plugfest ,, nothing ,, not even a close third .. :crying: .. thats ok .. i suc ,, just trying to pic up pace here .. not trying to win stuff .. Ok .. rule .. my idea ,, I can't enter .. works for me ,, :hee:

Sad but true, Tagger. They have the look and they sure as hell deliver.
Good ole boy, huh,that't did it for me. Kept my yap shut until that, get bent....

The best plugs won't necessarily win. The only guys who would have a chance to win would be one of the the Good ole Boys.

you need to grow up


Salty
If it ain't a Good Ole boys Club Then Why did My needlefish post get deleted? I don't Sell Needlefish?



I guess I need to send you a PM and explain why so you don't go off topic on this thread anymore. because if this keeps up I will just remove your posting priveledges if I can figure out how to, but that might be what you are looking for:huh:

I've never found this to be a "Good Ole Boy" atmosphere in here....everytime I've asked a question I got help.....and it always appreciated

Now back to "Plug of the Month"---"Plug of the Year" it should be self supporting .. Maybe auction off monthly winners to reward yearly winner.. To enter monthly you must be willing to part with your plug .. On these polls you can only vote once .. Plug of the year may also be displayed on the front page with bio on builder .. Whole goal is to get people posting pics again .. Other issues may also be a factor in that ..

I'm not sure this would accomplish what you want. Losing over and over will likely discourage some people......ask Flap:uhuh:. Adding money to it is also likely to end the fun pretty quick. Giving away your best plugs also wears thin at times. What might work better is for some of the guys who use the forum the most to each contribute a plug or two to be raffled or auctioned in the main forum. That money could the be split into quarters. One quarter to the site off the top. One quarter to a plug contributor picked at random. Next, the mods pick 10 plugs from all the plugs that are posted here (not the raffle plugs) over a time period (say 6mo to a year) and we vote on the best in 2 catagories......experienced builder and new builder. The winners get 1/4 of the raffle procceds each. I think that might encourage people to post their plugs without making it a direct competition. Enough people win to keep people happy, but without big money involved.

Another idea that I'd like to see is some sort of swap that encourages use of the plugs. For example everyone involved could be paired at random with some one else, make one plug to trade to the other guy, then you've got to go fish the plug you get (1 week window). Guy who gets the biggest fish on someone else's plug wins. The losers send all the plugs to him and he and the builder of the winning plug divide them up. Of course we might have to give a positive poundage to handicap whomever has to give Eddy their plug to fish....but it would probably work out seeing as Eddy's plugs work better than Eddy. Something to consider, anyways.

Another idea is a flavor of the month thread. Each month or two we all build one type of plug (say a needle) and post a picture. The viewing public can vote on a winner, the guy with the most wins at the end of the year gets some sort of small prize/recognition at the plugfest (the sillier the better).

Finally, I'd suggest we do away with mega swaps. This, I realize, may not be popular but I think it kills a lot of participation on the site. Guys end up building tedious numbers of one specific plug that takes all winter and keeps them from experimenting and posting different stuff. Difficult topic, since a lot of people have built up a big plug collections by participating in these swaps, and no one forces anybody to be involved in them, but I do feel their impact on the site deserves discussion.

Not sure if I'm a Good Ole Boy .?

No, your "Good" days are long past, though you've got the "ole" part down pat I'd say. As for the "boy" part, well we'll take your word on that because we ain't got the gas mask we'd need to check.

"good ole boy", that is plain BS and the the most unfair thing i've ever read on this forum. :af:

In my experience i have never felt anybody touting "i'm in the in crowd",

just talented people genuinely willing to help a struggling novice.


If anyone could be deemed an "outsider "it would be a guy from Joisey,
and i've never felt more welcomed anywhere .

=justplugit;521281
just talented people genuinely willing to help a struggling novice.

yup, nailed it right there.
As far as the plug of the month goes, I have a feeling I will just be giving away a lot of plugs, but i like pics so I am for what ever you guys decide!:kewl:

what is going on this tread was a question about plugs and what not .
and you guys turning it around in to a fight:yak5: .
to tell ya the truth i find it silly if you dont like some one dont read his post.
move on to the topic at hand.

Sporty, you've been building lures for a year and you are selling them already? That is a shortcut. Clearly you have much talent, and you should be justifiably proud of how far the quality of your plugs has come in the last year, but there is much more to a plug than a nice shape and paint job. Now I have no experience fishing your plugs, and I don't doubt they catch fish, probably better than mine:bc:, but when your motive for posting is partially financial (even if inadvertantly so) you should either be a sponsor (and help support the site) or go elsewhere, otherwise you are profiting off people who may not want to be used in that manner. Just the way it is. Please respect it.

I'm not sure this would accomplish what you want. Losing over and over will likely discourage some people......ask Flap:uhuh:. Adding money to it is also likely to end the fun pretty quick. Giving away your best plugs also wears thin at times. What might work better is for some of the guys who use the forum the most to each contribute a plug or two to be raffled or auctioned in the main forum. That money could the be split into quarters. One quarter to the site off the top. One quarter to a plug contributor picked at random. Next, the mods pick 10 plugs from all the plugs that are posted here (not the raffle plugs) over a time period (say 6mo to a year) and we vote on the best in 2 catagories......experienced builder and new builder. The winners get 1/4 of the raffle procceds each. I think that might encourage people to post their plugs without making it a direct competition. Enough people win to keep people happy, but without big money involved.

Another idea that I'd like to see is some sort of swap that encourages use of the plugs. For example everyone involved could be paired at random with some one else, make one plug to trade to the other guy, then you've got to go fish the plug you get (1 week window). Guy who gets the biggest fish on someone else's plug wins. The losers send all the plugs to him and he and the builder of the winning plug divide them up. Of course we might have to give a positive poundage to handicap whomever has to give Eddy their plug to fish....but it would probably work out seeing as Eddy's plugs work better than Eddy. Something to consider, anyways.

Another idea is a flavor of the month thread. Each month or two we all build one type of plug (say a needle) and post a picture. The viewing public can vote on a winner, the guy with the most wins at the end of the year gets some sort of small prize/recognition at the plugfest (the sillier the better).

Finally, I'd suggest we do away with mega swaps. This, I realize, may not be popular but I think it kills a lot of participation on the site. Guys end up building tedious numbers of one specific plug that takes all winter and keeps them from experimenting and posting different stuff. Difficult topic, since a lot of people have built up a big plug collections by participating in these swaps, and no one forces anybody to be involved in them, but I do feel their impact on the site deserves discussion.

Bump......back to the topic.:read:

I like Numbskull's idea above :kewl: Would keep things interesting.

Jigman

Here's your first entry. Guess who....

That looks like Taggers finger skin plug.

To drive it through like that there must have been a fish on the other hook......which makes Eddy less likely although it still looks like his plug. Hope it missed the tendon (looks like it did), should probably be on antibiotics anyways with that close a puncture. A closed tendon sheath infection can get serious very quickly.

My plug ,, my finger ..Great surgeon ... Thanks Mac .. Yes there was a 32" fish spinning to beat the band on that plug .. Skin plugs are slippery .. Slow night .... 4 guys fishing ,, 2 fish ,,, both on the skin plug ... they work ,, Just gotta fiqure a way to put a handle on it . didn't and doesn't hurt .. just suc it up and keep fishing .. Makes me think of getting my nose pierced .

When this all started we were just a bunch of names on a computer screen.Then we started to do the Fest and Bash etc.
Now we are all friends enjoying one hell of a great hobby. Let's keep it that way.

My plug ,, my finger ..Great surgeon ... Thanks Mac .. Yes there was a 32" fish spinning to beat the band on that plug .. Skin plugs are slippery .. Slow night .... 4 guys fishing ,, 2 fish ,,, both on the skin plug ... they work ,, Just gotta fiqure a way to put a handle on it . didn't and doesn't hurt .. just suc it up and keep fishing .. Makes me think of getting my nose pierced .

Use a lip grip or Boga - and now, a Tetanus Booster :shocked:

When this all started we were just a bunch of names on a computer screen.Then we started to do the Fest and Bash etc.
Now we are all friends enjoying one hell of a great hobby. Let's keep it that way.

Agree... Let's enjoy it. Less agenda and drama, more enjoyment, fishing, building, and friendships...

Here's your first entry. Guess who....

Damn! Right in the nose-picker, I woulda loaded my waders....
Add a fish to that, I scream like a 12 yo girl.......:exp:

Yeah, you're right, less drama more plug. Too much drama lately, too few plugs. Apologies to all, just rubbed a little raw lately.

Let's enjoy it. Less agenda and drama, more enjoyment, fishing, building, and friendships...


Ya, i agree, sorreee, prolly taking my frustrations out and seeing a little more red than usual lately.

I think a contest during the year is a great idea...winter/spring/summer/fall..maybe...every month may be hard for some..scott won the best plug last (fest/bash)winter, most people meet him for the first time that day...thats about as fair as it gets...a contest will keep people interested thru out the whole year...Ed I hope your finger's doing better:eek5:that looks nasty

Here's your first entry. Guess who....


Man that sure is ugly... hope all heals well....Been there done that.


I'm going to make a few quick comments, I'll be brief as possibe....

I joined this site last winter, I've been striper fishing longer than I care to admit and building plugs and lures almost as long, when I first started posting, I was treated with respect, I found the members here to be helpful to others and undrstanding to newbies that posted, sure some of the guy's were close, but that's to be expected, I went to plugfest( a virtual stranger to most ) and felt right at home,I met some great guy's and had some fun, I even won the most creative category, so IMHO I dont see the "good old boys tag", I dont post during the summer, I'm not building plugs, I dont do reports, and I'm too tired from fishing most nights to sit for too long at the PC, so I'm forced to work to stay awake!

Before we know it winter wil be here and plug making will be our only bass related entertainment , as far as my opinion on comercial builders, it's their choice, the ones I've seen here, have always been helpfull to others and IMHO desreve a right of passage.....

Sorry for the off topic comment, but I felt it might be good to hear from a "neutral" party...

Hope you all have a good fall run, the run has already srarted in the Mac, black Danny's at false dawn have been a hot ticket the last two morning for me....

Ouch Ed that looks painful. Remind's me of work as we usually have one or so of those bleeders every few weeks, not hooks though. At least you weren't alone.

Here's your first entry. Guess who....

Looks like a penis with hooks. Something they might sell in one of those wierd shops in P-Town. Ever heard of pliers? Sorry Eddy but that kind of thing can be avoided, ouch.

If you sell plugs you should be a sponsor and show your stuff in the sponsors forum. It's advertising and good business for you and the site. Now if you are a sponsor but want to share a building technique or new product for building then by all means it can go in the plug building forum.

I hate the idea of swaps, period. Especially mega swaps, take to much away from the site.

Numby, I am two years up on you at Plugfest and I am designing this coming years entry already, your toast.

Eddy, do you crimp your barbs? Can't understand not doing that, at least you would just have two little holes .

I crimp barbs on everything very rarely loose a fish.

Eddy, do you crimp your barbs? Can't understand not doing that, at least you would just have two little holes .

I crimp barbs on everything very rarely loose a fish.


Most my plugs I crimp the barbs .. Jigman spook is up to 220 fish largest 27 lbs. on crimped barbs .. Eelskin plug I considered it ,, then figured the fish I'm targeting with that plug I don't want to drop .. Even after my piercing ,, i'm still undecided .

Numby, I am two years up on you at Plugfest and I am designing this coming years entry already, your toast.


You going to take that George. I hope not for the sake of all us short guys. The bigger they are the harder they fall.

I crimp barbs on everything very rarely loose a fish.

Or a bird, I might add.

My 2 cents for what it is worth. I am for being able to sell up to 20 plugs via PM's to recoup material cost's. Not soliciting them thru PM's but if someone actually would be interested in something you make and asks you if they can buy one i see nothing wrong with that. A lot of times some guys who don't build plugs would like one. 20 would be my cut off total though. I realize that is not what the forum is about, selling plugs, but it would help guys doing it as it is not getting any cheaper. All the other ideas are great and would add to the site. I especially think helping out the beginners is the most important thing the forum should do and secondly it should be fun.

1 - I crimp all my barbs mostly because they rip up the fish pretty good. Not having to go to the clinic or performing self-surgery is a very helpful side benifit. (1 occurence for me so far this year)

2- I like swaps. I'm not really understanding how they could hurt the forum but I'm open to hearing other opinions.

Maybe it would be good to have an ongoing trade thread were someone could post pics of some plugs that they made to trade with other builders. (Maybe that would just open another can of worms however:eek5:)

My 2 cents for what it is worth. I am for being able to sell up to 20 plugs via PM's to recoup material cost's. Not soliciting them thru PM's but if someone actually would be interested in something you make and asks you if they can buy one i see nothing wrong with that. A lot of times some guys who don't build plugs would like one. 20 would be my cut off total though. I realize that is not what the forum is about, selling plugs, but it would help guys doing it as it is not getting any cheaper. All the other ideas are great and would add to the site. I especially think helping out the beginners is the most important thing the forum should do and secondly it should be fun.


The big thing is how to do it legally - that's what I was looking into a little while back (haven't given up just lots of things going on at the moment). I do have something in the works for that provided I can dot the Ts and Cross the :eyes:

1 - I crimp all my barbs mostly because they rip up the fish pretty good. Not having to go to the clinic or performing self-surgery is a very helpful side benifit. (1 occurence for me so far this year)

2- I like swaps. I'm not really understanding how they could hurt the forum but I'm open to hearing other opinions.

Maybe it would be good to have an ongoing trade thread were someone could post pics of some plugs that they made to trade with other builders. (Maybe that would just open another can of worms however:eek5:)

Trading happens now a bit and between PlugFest, Pluggers Bash, and the shows - is their more ways to skin that cat? maybe...

John I now we talked about that and it was probably not the right time to mention it after I thought about it. Like I said before the most important thing is helping out each other and beginners either with pictures or advise. I think you do a great job with it at this point and the other ideas are all good and will only add to the fun. It is sometimes hard to improve on something that is already top notch. P.