View Full Version : Dilemma: Do you leave fish to find fish?
Mr. Sandman 09-21-2007, 12:18 PM Lets say you have a sure thing going and you can pick away at decent fish that pull the drag good and hard all night...but there are no real sea-monsters in the pack. Do you leave them to find larger fish? I am about to and this could be a bad decision but I think it is what needs to be done.
fishbones 09-21-2007, 12:27 PM The age old quality vs. quantity dilema. I have no problem leaving smaller school fish to look for bigger fish. Especially this time of year, when you can pretty much assure yourself of not getting skunked. I'm going out this weekend and am going to look for big ones first. If we don't find any, we will go to some spots where I know we can get some consistent action and maybe pick up a few nice size fish. If that still doesn't work, I'll bite the bullet and stop at a spot on the way home where I take newbies to guarantee that they will catch something. All small fish, but it gets my buddies hooked on saltwater fishing. I just hope if I end up there, no one I know sees me.:spin:
numbskull 09-21-2007, 12:38 PM I often do. The fun is in finding them and figuring out how to get 'em. Once I've got a few decent ones and feel convinced (rightly or wrongly) nothing bigger is around, I'm happy and willing to spend the rest of my time hunting something larger, or trying something different. Although, staying put and fishing through 20lb fish hoping for a bigger one might make more sense, I'd rather be looking than hoping. I think I learn more with that approach and at the end of the night I'm happier if I learned something new than if I ran up my season total of medium sized fish.
Clogston29 09-21-2007, 12:39 PM i'd probably leave after getting decent, say 10-25 lb, fish regularly in a area for a while with nothing bigger thrown in. i'd get bored if it was too easy (not saying its easy, but you know what I mean). you can always go back to them later.
The Dad Fisherman 09-21-2007, 12:44 PM I'll leave smaller to find larger........If only it were that easy though
Rockport24 09-21-2007, 12:49 PM can you tell where that spot is, because I would LOVE that. I have yet to find a place that produces "drag pullers" consistantly. I often leave schoolie bass to find bigger bass, but I'm talking real schoolies, like 22-23 inches and under. I would have a hard time leaving drag pullers because I would be convinced a bigger one is around. However, if you have been fishing the spot a lot and are getting tired of that size fish, move on.
maybe I should just fish with a freshwater set-up and let the schoolies pull drag!! :wall:
piemma 09-21-2007, 12:49 PM NEVER!!!!!
ilovetwofish 09-21-2007, 02:48 PM I agree I wish I could find steady fish in the 20-25 pound range I don't think I could leave that spot if I found it.
can you tell where that spot is, because I would LOVE that. I have yet to find a place that produces "drag pullers" consistantly. I often leave schoolie bass to find bigger bass, but I'm talking real schoolies, like 22-23 inches and under. I would have a hard time leaving drag pullers because I would be convinced a bigger one is around. However, if you have been fishing the spot a lot and are getting tired of that size fish, move on.
maybe I should just fish with a freshwater set-up and let the schoolies pull drag!! :wall:
Guyver 09-21-2007, 03:20 PM With the current price of gas, NO!!! :sick:
fishsmith 09-21-2007, 03:26 PM Nothing ventured nothing gained.
1/2 the fun is finding them, you've accomplished that by being on them, now you want the trophy. It does blow when you burn all that fuel for not though.
The Iceman 6 09-21-2007, 03:28 PM I would stay.
vanstaal 09-21-2007, 03:37 PM NEVER!!!!!
ditto!
thats insane if u do :spin:
eastendlu 09-21-2007, 03:40 PM I stick to the old saying "never leave fish to find fish" because everytime i leave to find bigger fish all i get is a big skunk.lol
tynan19 09-21-2007, 04:28 PM Well if you are trying for the prize I would move.
american spirit 09-21-2007, 06:19 PM Lets say you have a sure thing going and you can pick away at decent fish that pull the drag good and hard all night...but there are no real sea-monsters in the pack. Do you leave them to find larger fish? I am about to and this could be a bad decision but I think it is what needs to be done.
i guess you might not find your 50 if you stick with the old. get in with the new locations. it'll be pissah if it pays off. :rotfl: and now you have one more option to chose from each night you go out.
joe the plumber 09-21-2007, 06:53 PM Don't ever leave a pick.
i've seen my buddy pick a 30+ out of a school of dinks and blues way too many times. so no, i don't leave....
EricW 09-21-2007, 08:14 PM I find with fishing time being limited at times, if I am lucky enough to find and get into fish I'll just stay there and be very happy with what I caught. I love being on a beach and seeing blitzing fish around hoping they will come my way. When they do, that is one of my favorite things.
Brother Brian 09-21-2007, 08:28 PM Did it Wed. Left 25" schoolies to find 30" schoolies. The fun is the hunt. The funny thing is that the spot I went to is VERY popular but I went because I knew it was holding bait. There was nothing there so I took a walk and found fish. I watched about seven guys pull up to the popular spot, cast for 15 minutes, get nothing and leave all the while having a pick.
Back Beach 09-22-2007, 05:09 AM First thing I would do is make sure you aren't fishing "wrong" for the big stuff amidst the fish you have in front of you. If you aren't throwing an eel, you may be guilty of being "wrong".
One time on the back we were catching a lot of 15-25# fish on live eels, and one of the new yorkers came down with rigged eels. He proceeded to cull a number of 30# plus fish right next to us while we took nothing over 25#.
Hardly coincidence as I've seen the rigged eels take the largest fish in the school many times.
Take home lesson is make sure you're fishing the right way before you leave fish to find fish.
cheferson 09-22-2007, 08:21 AM Why would rigged eels cull out the larger fish???
Mike P 09-22-2007, 09:33 AM I only leave fish to find more privacy ;)
Goose 09-22-2007, 11:26 AM Depends if the tackle matchs the fish. Its double edged sword and I usualy end up get cut.
steve 09-22-2007, 11:35 AM NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!!!!!!!!!!
steve 09-22-2007, 11:47 AM CASE IN POINT- I was once picking away at small schoolies using live eels and thought about leaving to find bigger fish. Conditions were good and it was about this time of year. Something told me to stick it out and about 15 minutes later I landed a 44 pounder. Ever since that incident I very rarely leave biting fish, even dinks.
steve 09-22-2007, 12:03 PM Just for the record- A very good surffisherman recently told me that he routinely "leaves" 30 pounders to find bigger fish. Now that's confidence! I couldn't do it.
Back Beach 09-22-2007, 01:42 PM Why would rigged eels cull out the larger fish???
They cast further and get deeper more quickly, which is sometimes the difference between large and larger. You can cover a lot of water efficiently also. Some guys like to make real large(24") riggies too, which are good for real big fish.
The point I failed to make was if you were going dry with plugs or just catching smaller stuff that you should put an eel on before going to another spot.
I will be at that place again tonight, save some room for me.:cheers:
steve 09-22-2007, 01:47 PM Backbeach is right on!
shadow 09-22-2007, 01:52 PM If your fishing the right spot as in a spot that holds large fish from time to time then don't leave the small fish are in there for a reason the same reason that might bring in a larger fish the spot I'v been at is holding smaller fish in tight and larger fish are out further.
Clogston29 09-22-2007, 01:52 PM in my previous reply I was assuming this is something that has gone on for days and that you've thrown everything you can think of at them to cull out a bigger fish. If I came on to fish like that one night, I wouldn't leave. It would be after 3 or 4 nights of similar action that I would think about leaving.
Backbeach - did anyone try a rubbercore sinker with a live eel in the situation you described by anychance, just curious if that would have taken some of the rigged eel advantage away. Also, were the riggies fished slow or quick. Just curious. I've gotta do up some rigged eels this winter and play around with them. I keep saying I'm gonna do it but just never do.
steve 09-22-2007, 02:06 PM A rubbercore sinker works well on a live eel at times in deep water - current situations for example, but a rigged eel is a different and special animal. Fish it slow to moderate pumping and even sweeping your rod as you reel. The rigged eel sinks like a stone and can be effectively fished in deep, rough and moving water unlike a live snake.
Back Beach 09-23-2007, 05:17 AM The rubbercore helps get a live eel down quick, and I frequently fish them that way. One problem with live eels and rubber cores is that they still don't cast that well into the wind compared to the rigged.
On one of the nights I am referring to, the wind turned and started blowing onshore, which made it difficult to keep a live eel out there.The guys with the rigged were bombing the things out there and were able to stay in the strike zone longer than we were.Our live eels were winding up at our feet after just a few seconds. Still, I've seen a lot of nights when the rigged eels culled out the jumbo fish regardless of the weather. Al B. has a lot of stories like that. I knew his partner John pretty well and witnessed a lot of damage done with the rigged eels through watching John. I still primarily fish the live ones though. When I say rigged eels I mean the type with 2 big siwash hooks sewn into them, not the ones with a wobble head.
fcap60 09-23-2007, 06:55 AM First thing I would do is make sure you aren't fishing "wrong" for the big stuff amidst the fish you have in front of you. If you aren't throwing an eel, you may be guilty of being "wrong".
Very, Very, True - In my opinion.
Tagger 09-23-2007, 07:24 AM I have left fish and been bit on the arse for it .. Over the course of time the fish got larger and alot of people got some nice fish, but I was off some where eles on my skunk quest .. stick with them ,, go thru your bag .. try some larger baits..try some deeper baits ,, get under the schoolies .
Pete F. 09-24-2007, 02:16 AM Do I leave fish to find fish :hs:
Sometimes it seems like the right thing to do:bl:
Saturday was one
It was the wrong thing to do:lossinit:
I will do it again when I once again overthink things and go to find the skunk:wiggle:
Saltheart 09-24-2007, 12:19 PM I might leave dinks but if the fish were "pulling out drag all night" , I would stay put for sure until my legs or the fish gave out.
Edge Sportfish 09-25-2007, 07:56 AM Rule # 1- NEVER leave fish to find fish.
Rule#2- NEVER break rule #1.
keeperreaper 09-25-2007, 08:03 AM No you don't ever leave fish to find find. That being said I break that rule all the time. It tries your patience when all your catching is rats and small keepers and the tide is dumping in a big fish spot when there are other spots to go to that have "potential" for a trophy. Coin flip theory. You leave and whale great decision you leave and get served the bagel bad decision.
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