Is this the aftermath of a "Spot-Burn? or just friends out for a good time?
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb28/Unclerickers/Blitzs.jpg

I would run before I would fish in a crowd like that!:rolleyes:

That spot looks familiar too!:eyes:

Sneakers on, running back and forth to cast, I just love that!:rolleyes:

thats the exact reason i dont frequent those spots. but the blitz looks nice.

I'll bet Wal-mart is out of ugly stick combos!

if you dont have all the gear.... dont fish!
no ugly sticks or shoes on the beach!!!

yeah...crowded spot during a blitz!!

ahah makes me laugh

now i do have the descent gear but i wouldnt knock something like that


i remember all the quotes from jordan, bird , and all the class guys talking down about a pickup game of basketball and just laughing and pointing!

pat the chests fellas.... pat em hard:musc:

yeah i understand the original intent of thread... but then come the knocks

i played a game of b ball the other day and 3 people were not wearing nike's

it was so funny

now i do have the descent gear but i wouldnt knock something like that

I wouldn't knock it but I wouldn't run up & down in my sneakers for it either ;)

But we can't always have a private blitz of 30 pound fish :wall:

exactly my point...

I wouldn't knock it but I wouldn't run up & down in my sneakers for it either ;)

:wall:

I did it bear foot in my shorts yesterday...:humpty::scream::wave:

its the same on the breachways with no korkers trying to go down to get fish in the seaweed and waves crashing.all in all it's tough to see a blitz going on and not jump in regardless of what your wearing or using.i think thats why alot of us pick our spots where we don't run into those kind of situations,but if i was driving bye i would have joined.


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Theyve been there since last Sunday, its about time word got out. Bigger fish mixed in but all sublegals in tight. Last weekend I cleared out a nice space for myself when I broke out the fly rod :rotf2:

Yep , up and down to keep the sneaks dry but try as you may , you will eventually get a wave over the shoes and wet the jeans up to about mid shin!. Been there , done that decades ago. Some things never change. People have a ball doing it. I once saw a girl in gym shorts and bare feet do this for about 3 hours in late november until her lips were purple from the cold. We let her sit in our truck and warm up. I think its great peopie get so psyched. Who cares if they are experts? They are having fun!! :).

Looks like they are having fun, excitement, and doing what many of us love to do so why knock it?

Fishing in crowds like that or even 1/6 th that size is not for me but why disparage those who don`t have all the right gear or are at different levels in their fishing experience and who are into some sort of blitz?

I would have wet my pants if I was they're. Who cares about the crowd. I didn't have a daytime blitz all year.

Yep , up and down to keep the sneaks dry but try as you may , you will eventually get a wave over the shoes and wet the jeans up to about mid shin!. Been there , done that decades ago. Some things never change. People have a ball doing it. I once saw a girl in gym shorts and bare feet do this for about 3 hours in late november until her lips were purple from the cold. We let her sit in our truck and warm up. I think its great peopie get so psyched. Who cares if they are experts? They are having fun!! :).

thats what its all about!! regardless of level

I was there. It was insane. I ran into that blitz by accident. It just got more and more crowded as the day went on with cll phone calls and all. That picture was posted on CTFisherman(a report site) about three days after the blitz took place. It wasnt even crowed on the days following the blitz, I was suprised.

am I missing something are these big fish or teh norma schoolies? Isnt there always blitzes like this (schooliefest) in that general area this time of year? I had some 50+ fish days.

Small fish, not even a keeper.

I was fortunate enought to be involved in a few blitzes like that this year. Hours on end, the best one being at night and there was only 3 of us there and there was big bass too. It's all part of the experience.

its like that every nov. i bring my kids- was there for 4 days last week before word got out- had fishing like that to ourselves at times other times was at most 8 or 10 others- phew- my oldest daughter got 1 about 24 inches o'wise its all 18/20 inch fish.

If I saw that many people standing where i wanted to fish:eek5:.. I'd go home.... no fish is worth that kind of misery:yak:... I guess I'm just spoiled.

So many wounded schoolies...
Not to generalize, but a lot of the sneaker crowd doesn't have clue 1 about handling these fish carefully.... makes me sad.

Take a look at the guy in the Brown jacket... :whackin::doh:

or the dink just sitting on the sand :hs:

Even if they were 40 pounders all day long...I would not fish in that!

Looks like "GooganFest 07"!:rotflmao:

yeah right. i'd fish on someone's shoulders for 40s all day...

Yep , up and down to keep the sneaks dry but try as you may , you will eventually get a wave over the shoes and wet the jeans up to about mid shin!. Been there , done that decades ago. Some things never change. People have a ball doing it. I once saw a girl in gym shorts and bare feet do this for about 3 hours in late november until her lips were purple from the cold. We let her sit in our truck and warm up. I think its great peopie get so psyched. Who cares if they are experts? They are having fun!! :).


You know what's wrong about it? It increases release mortality.

Guys drag fish up over the sand to keep their feet dry. This removes most of the protective slime from at least one side of the fish (and often both sides when the fish flops around). Then, dollars to donuts they don't have pliers, so they run up to the truck or to the tackle box placed high and dry for pliers. Then they run down and throw the fish into a receding wave, but of course, by the time the fish lands after the sand crab discus flip, the wave has receded too far and the fish lands with a thump on the sand. Waves coming in cycles as they do, the next wave doesn't quite reach the fish so they kind of gingerly run down and give it a little "help" towards the water by booting it with their feet. Then, repeat with a dozen small fish over the next half hour or so. How many of those fish actually make it after being treated like that? I've seen this a thousand times in my life if I've seen it once.

But hey--they're having fun and after all, they're just fish. :huh:

Sorry for being the elitist snob that I am :rollem:

Following up on what Mike P. has pointed out, yes it is all in good fun, but there is a cost to that fun. The 2006 Mass SB Monitoring Report was just released recently and the recreational release mortality numbers were twice what the harvest numbers were by number of individuals, something like and estimated 700,000 post release mortality to 350,000 retained fish. Haven't read through the full report to check on estimation methodologies but there is definitely an impact to all this excitement.

Good points Mike P, some people just don't get it nor will they ever. Some people eventually do get it. It's just a matter of listening to a more educated surfcaster and actually doing something about it. In the end it comes down to having respect for the fish. I hate it when somebody kicks back a fish into the water, esp. a striped one.

man i am spoiled living here on the island... if theres more than 3 people at the spot im going to i move on...

THE WHOLE BEACH WAS LIKE THAT IF YOU HAD A PASS YOU COULD GET AWAY FROM THE CROWD OR JUST WALK A LITTLE WAYS I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST TO LAZY ALL SCHOOLIES ANYWAY STILL FUN ON LIGHT TACKLE.SORRY ABOUT ALL CAPS I WAS HALF WAY THROUGH AND REALIZED IT AND WASN'T GOING TO RETYPE.

MikeP, that was so accurate it was painful to read.

I fished during a couple of these fiascoes. Couldn't deal so went elsewhere. There was a guy... maybe 45 yo, all geared up (Orvised and Beaned up) and he was just cranking in 15" fish and feeling really great about it and yelling to his buddies. When he finally got them unhooked, he'd drop them on the beach and kick or flip them back into or toward the water with his foot ... sometimes two foot lifts were required. I watched this for a couple of fish and then real loud I asked if thought he might be able to bend over and actually pick the fish up and carry them to to water. He said he would next time. What a sport. Maybe he didn't want to slime his waders. Idiot. I left.

thats not right ....the shorts never have a chance..

boy that looks like fun:rocketem:

thats not right ....the shorts never have a chance..

Kind of like the shorties that you put on the other site?

or the dink just sitting on the sand :hs:

I think someone is dragging it up the beach. There is line coming out of its mouth. Don't want to get the jeans wet.

man i am spoiled living here on the island... if theres more than 3 people at the spot im going to i move on...

wow!

and you think that is bad

try fishing the canal during the spring run on a breaking tide. :poke:

U know whats funny is we have the same thing going on right now in NJ.
Same size fish.U would be surprised how many times things run the concurrently.
Same type thing also.Every one with a fish pole comes out of the wood work.
Very dangerous.Humorous to watch..

Cain't and woant fish under those types of condish's.

For the very same reasons that I won't fish The Ditch, PI Beach, SOCO Bways, and why 99.9% of my fishing is done from 0300 to first light at "Korkers Required" spots that usually follow at least a 1/4 mile trek..............................

Primarily, in my view, what is the thrill behind catching dinks? You are only risking damaging yer future COW, and possibly killing your grandson's Trophy. Sorry but, I MOVE when it's schoolies every cast and I don't seem to be raising the BIG mommas that may or may not be amongst the rats.

Secondly, I never will understand the pursuit of big or little fish with light tackle. What, is it some sort of machismo BS? "Hey look at me, I landed this '20# MONSTER' on 12# test and no shock leader!!". Translation: "Hey look at me, I'm the insecure idiot increasing the release mortality rate and bringing a fish close to exhaustion, that I'll prolly just toss back into the surf with no concern for its well being after." Mommalukes, and a definite scar on the face of recreational/pro fishing.

I'm not advocating bringing a sizeable fish in GREEN, just never was one for increasing the playing time in the perceived interest of the extended fight somehow making someone a "better" angler for doing so. The TRUE sportsman will, if not keeping, C&R in due time and send schoolie and trophy alike on their revived and no worse for the battle ways, imho.

Lastly, the solitude ~or a group of 4 to 5, max, feeshin' buddies~ is my idea of the quintessential Striper Coast experience. There is just somethin' that ties one into the historic past and the majestic present when settting-up on an above average sized Linesider whilest out upon that infrequent and hard earned perch. Whether she be fooled by plug, eel, chunk, tin, or jig the fooling of our elusive quarry and the finding of her maw is what calls me to the surf each night. And besting the BIG GURLS is what makes all the homework, the miles, and the moons ~ALL, well worth their while. Besides to me, the Hunt is just as much a part of the fight and equally as rewarding as the successful release of our vaunted prey.

Very tough for me to stomach the mistreatment of our beloved species and I'd prolly be the one screaming at the newbs running up and down the beach and properly releasing the stripers while dodging all the googanity. Never have been one for shoulder to shoulder "fishing", if you could call it that.

I was at that fiasco, although on the other side of the bway. Went to the end of the jetty caught one rat, 14" and headed back to the truck. That kind of fishing is fun for me in the spring for about an hour. When im packing the steelhead rod, not a lot of fun with a 1208.

Look at this clown in the brown sweat shirt throwing a fish like a superstar, people who fish like this should never catch a fish ever again, there is no fish god. you can see the fish next to the guy in the orange jackets head

Situations like this are great for introducing newbies to the sport though, nothing like catching a few shorts on their first trip out to get them hooked. It seems like if somone gets the skunk on thier first time out, they never want to come back with me. If they catch "somthing" their first time out, it is much more likely they will want to come back out.

I really try to make sure my buddies hook up with somthing the first time I take them out, even though it usually means sacrificing my own cow hunting time, it is worth it if they get into it. Newbies always think "sneakers" when they think "fishing".

I saw that brown- top clown too Bob & first laughed, then got sick! :yak5:


Is he releasing a schoolie... or practicing for the next Olympics' Discuss throw competition? :spin:


But don't worry Bob, you will get your wish: I predict that unfortunate Bass is that guys' last for '07! I don't expect to see him throwing 3 oz. wood or Eels in the deep night anytime soon! :fishslap:

Take a look at the guy in the Brown jacket... :whackin::doh:

is that a split finger fastball or cutter??

Very tough for me to stomach the mistreatment of our beloved species and I'd prolly be the one screaming at the newbs running up and down the beach and properly releasing the stripers while dodging all the googanity. Never have been one for shoulder to shoulder "fishing", if you could call it that.
A few more guys like you can make all the difference,although you may want to keep the screaming to a minimum:bl:I find people very receptive and appreciative that i took a minute to help them out.:claps:Some of you "leveled","geared up" fashion consious elitists my want to give it a try:doh:

Maybe the guy in the orange pissed him off so he was throwing the dink at his head thats what it looked like lolololololol.


Look at this clown in the brown sweat shirt throwing a fish like a superstar, people who fish like this should never catch a fish ever again, there is no fish god. you can see the fish next to the guy in the orange jackets head

Looks like a normal Monday morning in Joisey. :huh:

The guy in the brown sweater looks like he cast rod and all over the guy in fronts head. :rotf2:

I did it bear foot in my shorts yesterday...:humpty::scream::wave:

i did it naked yesturday,,, what r we talking about,,, how is the weather down there,,,

A few more guys like you can make all the difference,although you may want to keep the screaming to a minimum:bl:I find people very receptive and appreciative that i took a minute to help them out.:claps:Some of you "leveled","geared up" fashion consious elitists my want to give it a try:doh:

Most of what I said in the paragraph you highlighted was tongue in cheek, bro.

I would attempt to approach the fish tossers/kickers, "I doan have to get my feet wet, do I", HACKS with some level of respect. Pretty hard to respect those who have no respect for themslves as witnessed by their lack of respect for Sir Stripey.

Iffin ya don't want to gear up sose you can release fish properly and unharmed, then stay out of tha SURF!!! Either that or GET WET!! It's only saltwater for CRIPES SAKE!!! That's not elitist my mang, that's just the way it is. I could care less if any of the googs feelings get hurt, what about Morone Saxatilus :bl: :bl: ??

It looks like there is a fish lying in the sand. Schoolie? Bluefish?
I won't do that type of scene either. I don't do the dink scene as a primary target. I just don't get a thrill from small fish.

Look at this clown in the brown sweat shirt throwing a fish like a superstar, people who fish like this should never catch a fish ever again, there is no fish god.

That's me :mad:
























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Mike your killing me :btu:

The sad thing.
There are a lot of kids in the photo.
Great to see dads taking them fishing.
Teach them to handle the fish properly and respect the future of the resource.

This weeks fisherman had a good eridorial with in the surf fishing reports by Capt. Don....

Most of what I said in the paragraph you highlighted was tongue in cheek, bro.

I would attempt to approach the fish tossers/kickers, "I doan have to get my feet wet, do I", HACKS with some level of respect. Pretty hard to respect those who have no respect for themslves as witnessed by their lack of respect for Sir Stripey.

Iffin ya don't want to gear up sose you can release fish properly and unharmed, then stay out of tha SURF!!! Either that or GET WET!! It's only saltwater for CRIPES SAKE!!! That's not elitist my mang, that's just the way it is. I could care less if any of the googs feelings get hurt, what about Morone Saxatilus :bl: :bl: ?? Ok lmao my point went straight over your head mang...lemme try this again.
My suggestion that you may want to rethink the "screaming" thing wasn't to spare their feelings,it was to save you from a trip to the dentist for a denture fitting.It's easy to scream at someone on a computer but not so in the real world(online i'm 10 feet tall,the real world only 6'2") My other comments were more an attempt at getting more responses to the REAL problem with that pic,not the ugly sticks and sneakers but the fact that if we don't do something to get these people on board with proper C&R techniques the lean years of the past being revisited is a real possibility. Dat b aw i haf ta say mang,peace out:huh:

BassTracker would surely wrestle the man to ground, mount him until he submits, and then have his way with him to teach him a lesson...

Bart when did you get a Brown Sweetshirt?

Dood, are you saying that there's full grown "men" out there that doan know how to properly release a striper or blue :hihi:?

I agree with yer point in principle, but my comments were more to the ridiculousness of these guys thinking that they deserve to treat Striper any old which way they feel, or whatever's easiest, or without having to get their feet wet. I am quite sure that a majority of those cats know the right thing to do, just too stinkin LAZY or JAZZED up over some dinks to take the time to do the right thing.

In which case they would most assuredly be deserving of a full fledged:fishslap: :fishslap:!!

obknockshus eruptus

I am quite sure that a majority of those cats know the right thing to do, just too stinkin LAZY or JAZZED up over some dinks to take the time to do the right thing.


i think you are wrong here, BD. I doubt they have the slightest idea that they are doing anything wrong.

hell, you didn't even know how to un-hook a blue 3 months ago, right?

OH GOSH!!

Yep , up and down to keep the sneaks dry but try as you may , you will eventually get a wave over the shoes and wet the jeans up to about mid shin!. Been there , done that decades ago. Some things never change. People have a ball doing it. I once saw a girl in gym shorts and bare feet do this for about 3 hours in late november until her lips were purple from the cold. We let her sit in our truck and warm up. I think its great peopie get so psyched. Who cares if they are experts? They are having fun!! :).

can i get a amen

I hope she didn't get here gym trunks wet......:faga:

Just her bra-less top :rolleyes:

A) I think it would behoove us "gentlemen", Zac & bart, to not persist in the previous patterns from <<<<<<ova there.

B) As for my infamous BLUEFISH, it was more like 5 months ago, it was only the third boo I had ever hooked, and since then I've become quite proficient with the toothy bastages, thank you.

Why does that one occassion, an instructional one at that, resonate so deeply with youse guys, bart/Zac/Skitts/et al?? Didn't know that my PAST ineptitudes meant so much to you fellas :as:.

The main difference between me and them is that I would never mistreat any species ~animal, fish, or fowl~ like that, except for perhaps them varmint dogfeesh :grins:!!

[QUOTE=zacs;541421]i think you are wrong here, BD. I doubt they have the slightest idea that they are doing anything wrong.[QUOTE]

do ya think that could've been better said, like this?:

'i think, they don't have the slightest idea that they are doing anything wrong.'

difference of OPINION doesn't have to be wrong does it,

only different, eh mi amigo?

unless you are the undisputed authority on all OPINIONS :rotf2:.

I think we all think what is going on is wrong, it is also wrong to confront a total stranger and tell him/her what they are doing is wrong.

The EP's are usually just a phone call away, I know for a fact that they were in Charlestown that day because I was driving behind them. keep there number in your cell phone and call them if needed.

A) I think it would behoove us "gentlemen", Zac & bart, to not persist in the previous patterns from <<<<<<ova there.

look in the mirror..... its not me you see.... its you.

do ya think that could've been better said, like this?:

'i think, they don't have the slightest idea that they are doing anything wrong.'

difference of OPINION doesn't have to be wrong does it,

only different, eh mi amigo?

unless you are the undisputed authority on all OPINIONS :rotf2:.

:wall::wall::wall:

I think I said it just fine.

You need to learn how to chill out a little, Ali G.

Vic- you finish doing your chores yet? :wall:

Seems the pirate enjoys irritating people to no end....

but yet: The main difference between me and them is that I would never mistreat any species ....

boots please

I think this thread should be more about how these bozo's can be educated in the proper handling of fish, and stop with the blaming and guilty feelings. I am pretty sure we on this board know right from wrong

Well said, tatoo bob!

ZacS, bart, and SS just doan get my sense of humor or metaphors.

Of course, I would do the gentlemanly thing and attempt to assist those cats with a proper release. I learned a long time ago that one draws more bees with honey than with vinegar. Exagerration for emphasis sometimes gets missed by the more litteral types.

Just to clear things up................................................ .

No, I wouldn't litterally "scream" at someone I was trying to teach about proper release techniques.

No, I doan think that i'm ten feet tall on the net and nor would i treat someone else as if they were two feet tall.

Yes, at some point we all need/needed instruction and most folks will comply if taught properly, i believe in the spirit of humanity, although there are those that do fall into the category i aforementioned.............that is all :wave::wave:

:rollem: its only a few.... its always just a few. Pass the gravy please.

It's a good thing the late ,great Edward E. Everett wasn't there or there would be a lot of people dog paddling in the drink.