View Full Version : Best place to buy plugs ?
danno1 11-29-2007, 07:22 AM I know the "season" is winding down, but maybe santa can bring me some for spring.
Just bought my first "professional" plug at a big tackle store in Norwalk, CT, instead of walmart specials.
It`s a Afterhours custom plug, 2 3/4 oz. I paid 27.99 for it :yak4:
Where else can I get some, either close by me, or can order, that`s not causing me to take out a loan for each one ?
BTW, how`s this plug I bought, compared to the "name brands" I`ve heard of, ( Danny, Tatoo, Habs, etc)?
lurch 11-29-2007, 07:34 AM look at the sponsors of this site!
STREETFIGHT 11-29-2007, 08:49 AM afterhours = :smokin:
Saltheart 11-29-2007, 09:23 AM Lots of people right here making and selling plugs as good as anyones. Search around and see what the sponsors have.
27.99 ..... incredible!
afterhours 11-29-2007, 09:33 AM MOST of my dealers retail most of my plugs for approx $22 ea.
Charlie G 11-29-2007, 09:56 AM And worth every penny Don.
fishpoopoo 11-29-2007, 10:00 AM It wasn't until fairly recently (a few years ago) that Ricky @ that big store you went to started stocking custom wood plugs (because folks like me went in and bent his ear). First it was Habs, then Tattoo, and then a few others like After Hours.
He charges a premium, but that's gold coast pricing for you. Remember - that store primarily caters to boat guys who drag wire and throw slabs of meat (like the barbarians they are).
Be thankful he stocks plugs and surf gear, even if you have to pay a little more for it. Your next best option is to head up Pat Abate's shop a litte more than an hour away in Old Saybrook. Going south, your next available spot for custom wood is in Queens and Long Island.
Kosherklam 11-29-2007, 10:06 AM Don
Holy crap a retail store sells your stuff for $28 am i doing something wrong? :think: Thats rediculous
Your plugs are made to be fished they hold up incredibly and there sould be no reason no matter what the income of their store is $18-$22 over here
Charge that store more :rocketem: lol
danno1 11-29-2007, 10:21 AM From the post and PMs , I think I opened up a can of sandworms! :huh:
From the PM I got from Don, who makes them, there are ALOT of other stores that sell them less expensive! That store where I bought it is in "prime location" territory.
Like FISHPOOPOO said, there`s not much around by me (locally) that sell custom.
Brother Brian 11-29-2007, 10:22 AM I don't give a monkeys red behind if the AH plug was $30. Without that plug my recent trip would have had FAR fewer memories. It is never a mistake to buy the highest quality there is.....
The Dad Fisherman 11-29-2007, 11:31 AM Pick them up online from the sponsors websites here.
S-B Sponsor Page (http://www.striped-bass.com/fishing/s-b-sponsors.html)
You can also Stock up at the shows in the off-season if you are at them.
The following Plug Builders (in Alphabetical Order) are sponsors here and they ALL make good stuff.
Afterhours
Bernzy
BigFish
Habs
RM Smith
#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
Surf Asylum
Tattoo
BassDawg 11-29-2007, 05:51 PM Don's finishes are legendary!!
And the action on his sr spooks are lethal. That's a damn shame yer gettin' hoodwinked by some selfish bastage down your way. That being said, his finishes are well worth the price of admission ~even if ya gotts ta grease the palm of the bouncer :grins:!
The Dad is right, get them online or at the shows, much more reasonable and WELL worth the wait.
Andy D 11-29-2007, 06:09 PM Try Stratford Bait &Tackle in Stratford CT. its close to 95 and he has a pretty good selection . Also someone else suggested Rivers End in Old Saybrook its a great store and Pat is always willing to help out.
ilovetwofish 11-29-2007, 06:25 PM I have all the respect in the world for you custom plug builders your work is fantastic, I onley wish I could afford a $20 or higher plug.I'll probablly piss some of you off by saying this sorry if I do, but who the hell would spend that much on plugs just to lose them or have them get all banged up from the rocks and bluefish. I guess if I won the powerball I would spend the money. I'll stick with atom poppers and plastic and $6.OO plugs they all catch fish.I suppose if I was fishing next to a guy using one of those $25 plugs and was catching much bigger fish then I was I would breakdown and spend the money.Tell me wich is the best plug out there and i'll buy one at one of the fishing shows i'll try it all next year and see if they really produces better then what I use.
onecastmike2003 11-29-2007, 06:49 PM sounds like your just a weekend kinda guy... some of us are hunting the bigest Bass we can find... Not just casting a 6 $ plug ...
the pic is why we dont fish Atom plugs...
Gunpowder 11-29-2007, 06:53 PM 7 dollar plugs can do the trick though too... i caught my largest 47.75 pound fish on a bomber. so dont think it cant happen. dont get me wrong, the customs are amazing but sometimes the cheaper lures def dont get the acknowledgment they sometimes deserve.
johnny ducketts 11-29-2007, 07:08 PM I believe that it is a matter of personal preference, but the custom guys use higher quality components,( usually the best there is ) and after seeing the hours they have put in to come up with a design, tweak, test, re-test, and finally finished product. You can kinda get the feeling that the cost is justified. The local guys also have a feel for the type of bait that is in our area as well. I think they have a better idea than some factories overseas do.
flyben24 11-29-2007, 07:17 PM My largest surf fish this year also came on a bomber..... sure the custom plugs have many cows to their names..... but the people that say redfins and bombers are for dinks, are simply clueless... if fished right, they can be the deadliest plugs for big fish.
rockyroady 11-29-2007, 07:17 PM 7 dollar plugs can do the trick though too... i caught my largest 47.75 pound fish on a bomber. so dont think it cant happen. dont get me wrong, the customs are amazing but sometimes the cheaper lures def dont get the acknowledgment they sometimes deserve.
:btu: Very well said.
animal 11-29-2007, 07:39 PM sounds like your just a weekend kinda guy... some of us are hunting the bigest Bass we can find... Not just casting a 6 $ plug ...
the pic is why we dont fish Atom plugs...
Hey Mike,for your own well-being,thiiiiiiink,before you post.The fish in your photo is no bigger than 20 lbs.The world record(allegedly)was 78.8,and caught on a Rebel.I'm POSITIVE your plugs are stronger than Rebels.
tattoobob 11-29-2007, 07:44 PM sounds like your just a weekend kinda guy... some of us are hunting the bigest Bass we can find... Not just casting a 6 $ plug ...
the pic is why we dont fish Atom plugs...
Maybe you should just stick to Blowing yourself on SOL, we don't give a fukc about it here
Gunpowder 11-29-2007, 07:48 PM danno1, dont worry we got ure back covered. i guess u cant hunt big bass though if ure just a weekend guy...... cause people dont have jobs or anything that might interfere. i dont kno where onecastmike is comin from :confused::confused::confused:
ilovetwofish 11-29-2007, 07:48 PM So because im not rich but make a pretty good living and wont spend $25 on a plug makes me a weekend warrior is that what you are saying? very far from it my freind.I gurantee I fish more then most of the people on this sight probably including you.I am still fishing 5 out of 7 days a week sometimes twice a day and still catching fish what about you.
sounds like your just a weekend kinda guy... some of us are hunting the bigest Bass we can find... Not just casting a 6 $ plug ...
the pic is why we dont fish Atom plugs...
ilovetwofish 11-29-2007, 07:53 PM I agree I wish I could afford the custom plugs im just saying that you can catch with just about anything if you no spots and the fish are there.If you can afford them now adays godbless you.
I believe that it is a matter of personal preference, but the custom guys use higher quality components,( usually the best there is ) and after seeing the hours they have put in to come up with a design, tweak, test, re-test, and finally finished product. You can kinda get the feeling that the cost is justified. The local guys also have a feel for the type of bait that is in our area as well. I think they have a better idea than some factories overseas do.
Clogston29 11-29-2007, 07:55 PM customs have their place, but so do "cheap" plastic swimmers (45 lbs on a redfin - my best)
as far as where to by:
capecodtackle.com
saltwateredge.com
can't got wrong with either, and they're both site sponsors
ilovetwofish 11-29-2007, 07:57 PM Who are you refering to with that statement?
Maybe you should just stick to Blowing yourself on SOL, we don't give a fukc about it here
ilovetwofish 11-29-2007, 08:02 PM By the way i,ll add to this I go to every fishing show and have bought custom plugs in the past and still will in the future when I can save some cash.
Gunpowder 11-29-2007, 08:03 PM Who are you refering to with that statement?
im pretty sure onecastmike :hee:
Slingah 11-29-2007, 08:04 PM here we go again...:tm:
striper134 11-29-2007, 08:04 PM I agree on the above post. I would say the Saltwater Edge (http://www.saltwateredge.com). They have a great selection and offer great advice on other items that might fit your budget and style as well as area fished. As for that Mike guy mentioned above you should be more concerned about not getting a 3/0 treble in the hand and get a tool to handle the fish you land and leave the new guy alone. :laugha:
Gunpowder 11-29-2007, 08:06 PM here we go again...:tm:
is it winter already??? :tooth::tooth::tooth:
tattoobob 11-29-2007, 08:09 PM Who are you refering to with that statement?
the person I quoted
Slingah 11-29-2007, 08:10 PM is it winter already??? :tooth::tooth::tooth:
:bl2::bl2:
tattoobob 11-29-2007, 08:25 PM I am sorry but guys come here looking for help, if people like onecastmike2003 come on here and try to make everyone feel bad about asking these questions this fishing board is useless
Bottom line is there is a time and place for every kind of plug made you just need to know the time and place to use them.
Danno1 I sent you a pm
Gunpowder 11-29-2007, 08:27 PM I am sorry but guys come here looking for help, if people like onecastmike2003 come on here and try to make everyone feel bad about asking these questions this fishing board is useless
Bottom line is there is a time and place for every kind of plug made you just need to know the time and place to use them.
beautifully put. thats wat i was thinking this whole time. i came here for advice a year ago and i kno if in the beginning i got feedback like wat onecastmike posted, i would have left. hopefully one does ruin it for all. (no pun intended :biglaugh:)
rockyroady 11-29-2007, 08:40 PM beautifully put. thats wat i was thinking this whole time. i came here for advice a year ago and i kno if in the beginning i got feedback like wat onecastmike posted, i would have left. hopefully one does ruin it for all. (no pun intended :biglaugh:)
You nailed a 47 pounder and you've only been at it a year? Way to go!
Slingah 11-29-2007, 08:44 PM I am sorry but guys come here looking for help, if people like onecastmike2003 come on here and try to make everyone feel bad about asking these questions this fishing board is useless
Bottom line is there is a time and place for every kind of plug made you just need to know the time and place to use them.
Danno1 I sent you a pm
onecastmike2003 seems to have a way with words :hihi:....
I though it was a good thread...love hearing of large on bombers...one of my all time favorites..
Like others have said Danno some great plugs available right here through site sponsers!
Gunpowder 11-29-2007, 08:45 PM You nailed a 47 pounder and you've only been at it a year? Way to go!
thanks rocky. been surf casting seriously for like 4 years now, but yeah, talk about having some luck though. all about being at the right place at the right time and knowing wat to do :bl::bl:
Adam_777 11-29-2007, 08:53 PM SWE for me is hands down best place to buy plugs.Worth a trip from CT.Pete is the man and I'm sure you'll find you want.I wish I lived in that shop.There's always good people in there that will give you priceless info on stuff you want to know .I think they have wood and metal from all the s-b sponsors in there!
7 dollar plugs can do the trick though too... i caught my largest 47.75 pound fish on a bomber. so dont think it cant happen. dont get me wrong, the customs are amazing but sometimes the cheaper lures def dont get the acknowledgment they sometimes deserve.
Nice photo! :wiggle:
Gunpowder 11-29-2007, 09:02 PM Nice photo! :wiggle:
thanks. got her last summer. feels like it was yesterday that i walked the mile down the beach with her though. i remember not being able to hold it up for the picture i was so tired hence the red in my face :usd:
rivsie11 11-29-2007, 09:05 PM I am sorry but guys come here looking for help, if people like onecastmike2003 come on here and try to make everyone feel bad about asking these questions this fishing board is useless
Well said Tatoobob
thanks. got her last summer. feels like it was yesterday that i walked the mile down the beach with her though. i remember not being able to hold it up for the picture i was so tired hence the red in my face :usd:
She sure is a cow.
:btu:
Mike P 11-29-2007, 09:09 PM I agree on the above post. I would say the Saltwater Edge (http://www.saltwateredge.com). They have a great selection and offer great advice on other items that might fit your budget and style as well as area fished. As for that Mike guy mentioned above you should be more concerned about not getting a 3/0 treble in the hand and get a tool to handle the fish you land and leave the new guy alone. :laugha:
Tools don't use tools. :rollem:
danno1 11-29-2007, 09:10 PM Thanks guys, feel like deleting this whole post for causing a big haggle :yak:
I think I should stick to chunking :hee:.
But after buying my first "professional"plug, I see why they cost what they do.
Since there is no rush at this time of the season, I`m buying 1 or 2 every couple weeks from the sponsers here
Mike P 11-29-2007, 09:12 PM Thanks guys, feel like deleting this whole post for causing a big haggle :yak:
Don't let the internet's biggest ass clown get you down. YOU didn't cause the haggle.
hyefisherman2 11-29-2007, 10:23 PM m&d's has a nice selection of wooden plugs and so doesnt saltwater edge.
Slipknot 11-29-2007, 11:04 PM Nice catch there Gunpowder :btu:
Remind me to shake your hand if we ever meet.
I must have cast bombers on the beaches as many times as 4 ounce jigs in the ditch, best I have with the bomber was about 21 pounds. 47-3/4 pounds is a feat.
the rest of you guys need to just ignore the chest beating knat onecastmike and not take his bait, his bait is bad,stinky,rotten,old bait.
ignore the guy. I wish everyone on the site could just list him on their ignore list.
wader-dad 11-29-2007, 11:11 PM I will put in one vote for shopping with Joe Lyons of Surfasting Rhode Island- site sponsor and all around good guy.
Pete_G 11-29-2007, 11:17 PM I am sorry but guys come here looking for help, if people like onecastmike2003 come on here and try to make everyone feel bad about asking these questions this fishing board is useless
I agree completely Bob. Maybe I'm just jaded but some of the fishing forums just seem to be a LOT less friendly and a whole lot more condescending if not vicious then they used to be.
It drives away new members and old ones...
And Danno1, here's some reading for you if you're interested:
Surf Fishing Basics (http://www.saltwateredge.com/info/Surf-Fishing-Basics.html) by Steve McKenna
Artificials for Big Stripers in the Surf (http://www.saltwateredge.com/info/Artificials-For-Big-Stripers.html) by Steve McKenna
It's All About White Water (http://www.saltwateredge.com/info/WHITEWATER.html) by Zeno Hromin
Why Cast a Needlefish? (http://www.saltwateredge.com/info/ZAM.html) by Dennis Zambrotta
Bucktail Jig Fishing 101 (http://www.saltwateredge.com/info/BUCKTAIL-JIGS.html) by Arden Gardell
Big Fish Mentality (http://www.saltwateredge.com/info/Big-Fish-Mentality.html) by Bill Nolan
ChiefLinesider 11-30-2007, 12:32 AM sounds like your just a weekend kinda guy... some of us are hunting the bigest Bass we can find... Not just casting a 6 $ plug ...
the pic is why we dont fish Atom plugs...
D o u c h e B a g:fishslap:
onecastmike2003 11-30-2007, 05:11 AM well bob the fish is 46 in and 38 lbs on my custom... and a far cry from 20lb dink...!
rude people over here...
Merry Xmass Team S- Bass
ilovetwofish 11-30-2007, 05:34 AM Well now that I know what kind of a jerk and troublemaker this guy is i'll ignore him thanks for the info and the support.
piemma 11-30-2007, 07:36 AM Well it's about time...let the wars begin!!!
1dozenraw 11-30-2007, 07:49 AM I like supporting locals so I check capt. Don's first. He stocks Afterhours and I use them a lot. Second choice would be buying direct from the maker's website if there is one and it's possible. The makers who are sponsors here make nice stuff and I can't see ever NEEDING any more than is offered by them in the way off better quality semi customs. SWE is a ride for me but it certainly is a nice store. Be warned that if you go there to meet someone to pick up a rod you bought in the classifieds and you get there early to look around and Steve McKenna is there all alone and you ask to see a few of those reels that everyone likes so much (VS) and he shows you several... you may be scraping around for several hundred $$$ in the next week or two.
BigBo 11-30-2007, 07:53 AM well bob the fish is 46 in and 38 lbs on my custom... and a far cry from 20lb dink...!
rude people over here...
Merry Xmass Team S- Bass
None ruder than you RHM.
That fish is not even close to 46"/38#
You're not hoisting a 38# fish with a couple of fingers wrapped around the top of your plug.
Do us a favor. Buy a scale and learn how to use a tape measure. Oh, and leave your crap over at the other place.:doh::mad:
Kierran 11-30-2007, 07:55 AM I thought this thread was about where to buy plugs? :conf:
Try Stratford Bait &Tackle in Stratford CT. its close to 95 and he has a pretty good selection . Also someone else suggested Rivers End in Old Saybrook its a great store and Pat is always willing to help out.
I have to second these suggestions. Anyone passing through CT should stop by these two shops. Both are right off 95.
JohnR 11-30-2007, 08:09 AM well bob the fish is 46 in and 38 lbs on my custom... and a far cry from 20lb dink...!
rude people over here...
Merry Xmass Team S- Bass
OCM - There is no flippin' way that fish is 38 pounds - no way, no chance. I think you need to dial up the truthi-meter and dial back the bully and attitude. Or you will be the first "voted off the island" this year
fish4striper 11-30-2007, 08:32 AM Or you will be the first "voted off the island" this year
Isn't the primary today, let's vote :rotfl:
danno, support the sponsors here, great shops with guys that give awesome advice and they carry quality gear for however you fish.
Andy D 11-30-2007, 08:32 AM 38#s? Where do you buy your scale. Or are you figureing approx. 10#s for every finger you have holding the plug. :hihi:
The Dad Fisherman 11-30-2007, 09:19 AM well bob the fish is 46 in
Must be using an Irish Yardstick........:rolleyes:
gone fishin 11-30-2007, 09:23 AM 38#s? Where do you buy your scale. Or are you figureing approx. 10#s for every finger you have holding the plug. :hihi:
:chatter:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::claps:
cheferson 11-30-2007, 09:25 AM well bob the fish is 46 in and 38 lbs on my custom... and a far cry from 20lb dink...!
rude people over here...
Merry Xmass Team S- Bass
Looks like 50" 50lbs to me :yak4::uhoh::yak4::jester:
Slipknot 11-30-2007, 09:45 AM sounds like your just a weekend kinda guy... some of us are hunting the bigest Bass we can find... Not just casting a 6 $ plug ...
the pic is why we dont fish Atom plugs...
well bob the fish is 46 in and 38 lbs on my custom... and a far cry from 20lb dink...!
rude people over here...
Merry Xmass Team S- Bass
This thread was about custom plugs and where the guy can find them cheaper, then you come along and RUDELY insult him by figuring him as just a weekend kinda guy, like that makes any difference at all when he fishes :rollem: and you have to make a lookeeme post by adding fish pictures like you are the greatest fisherman of all because you make your own custom plugs. Give us a break:rolleyes: It doesn't even matter how big the fish is, it's your attention craving that sidetracks the thread that gets peoples' dander up and raises the BS meter.
Does that spell it out for you now Mike?
Do us a favor and go make your one cast.
I don't know why I even bother, you seem like you will never change:bsod:
scottw 11-30-2007, 10:12 AM here's a thought, new poster by the way and you guys make me laugh and provide a ton of information about fishing at the same time and I really appreciate the site, I plan to spend the off months scrounging around the house for stuff to sell on ebay, it's amazing what is lurking around here and what people will pay for it out there, I've noticed that most of the plug builders mentioned on this site accept Paypal on their sites, so you can effectively and easily turn your trash into nice shiny new plugs and never leave your house! I'll let you know how many plugs my junk translated into, Happy Holidays to all...Scott
Tackle Direct - they have the slimmest margins....I'd go there instead of paying the high prices the sponsors here charge.
I will put in one vote for shopping with Joe Lyons of Surfasting Rhode Island- site sponsor and all around good guy.
what he said. Joe's the man
38lbs ? yeah right :rollem: what a joke
Saltheart 11-30-2007, 11:08 AM Interesting thread. i have two comments.
best place to buy plugs in my experience is at the winter/spring shows. They are often marked down for the shows (get there early) and many spnsors like M+D (Capecodtackle) are at the shows.
My second comment is that OCM is now on several peoples radar screens. i predict a short posting season for him. :)
Gunpowder 11-30-2007, 12:40 PM Thanks for the laugh...
ive been off my seat for the past five minutes reading these posts. :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:
flyben24 11-30-2007, 03:03 PM the fish is 46 in and 38 lbs :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: sure your not confusing it with 38oz.???
ThrowingTimber 11-30-2007, 03:12 PM 49 inch 21 inch girth measured and released taken on a black mambo dunno the weight hope shes still swimming. Its funny because I remember when I bought that lure, it was the last show msba had at the mall basement, when you went in the guy was setup midway through the floor on the left-hand-side, they were 2 for the price of 1. I think he was asking 6$ for two.
All lures have a place in the bag, whether its something that nasa made the clear coat for or a mambo minnow they all take fish, when presented the right way in the right conditions. :wavey:
As far as customs go, salty here a sponsor does sales for members, saltwater edge has a notification system, in case a product comes in that you're looking for comes into their shop and Mike Thomas at M&D's has a great selection of customs.
Also think of hitting up some shows coming up and try and get there early you can usually score a bargain or two.
Nice catch there Gunpowder :btu:
Remind me to shake your hand if we ever meet.
I must have cast bombers on the beaches as many times as 4 ounce jigs in the ditch, best I have with the bomber was about 21 pounds. 47-3/4 pounds is a feat.
the rest of you guys need to just ignore the chest beating knat onecastmike and not take his bait, his bait is bad,stinky,rotten,old bait.
ignore the guy. I wish everyone on the site could just list him on their ignore list.
Bruce you are right its a feat and an even better story. I will root around and see if I can find it.
[QUOTE=ThrowingTimber;544027]
All lures have a place in the bag, whether its something that nasa made the clear coat for or a mambo minnow they all take fish, when presented the right way in the right conditions. :wavey:QUOTE]
Amen to that! I had some great times this year with Mambos. Some nice fish fell to them.
Sometimes that $6 plug will out-fish custom wood!
2boxers 11-30-2007, 03:33 PM Joe Lyons from surfcasting RI gets a huge +1 from me, I ordered some plugs from him the beginning of the season and had them the next day. He also went above and beyond customer service wise when he was out of stock on one plug I wanted. M&D is also a great shop to deal with
piemma 11-30-2007, 04:17 PM [QUOTE=ThrowingTimber;544027]
All lures have a place in the bag, whether its something that nasa made the clear coat for or a mambo minnow they all take fish, when presented the right way in the right conditions. :wavey:QUOTE]
Amen to that! I had some great times this year with Mambos. Some nice fish fell to them.
Sometimes that $6 plug will out-fish custom wood!
Back in the early 90's when the mambo Minnow first came out, it was the "go to" lure on the Back beaches. I can't tell you how many 30 and 40 # fish I took on the Black and Silver and the Parrot color. Killer lure.
The Iceman 6 11-30-2007, 04:37 PM Joe Lyons from surfcasting RI gets a huge +1 from me, I ordered some plugs from him the beginning of the season and had them the next day. He also went above and beyond customer service wise when he was out of stock on one plug I wanted. M&D is also a great shop to deal with
Yup, nothing but a pleasure dealing with Joe....
BigFish 11-30-2007, 04:44 PM I was into 38 pound fish all season long? :smash:I thought it was me measuring them wrong?
zimmy 11-30-2007, 05:10 PM Original question... if you are looking local, need a place to get a plug in a hurry and/or don't want the shipping charge, Stratford Bait is porbably the best bet nearby. I am gonna work on Jimmy O's in Bridgeport and see if he can start carrying a good supply, although I am not sure how easy it is to get in the game with supply and demand and also Stratford Bait pretty near by. maybe he can be our local #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& supplier :)
Blitzseeker 11-30-2007, 05:40 PM I was into 38 pound fish all season long? :smash:I thought it was me measuring them wrong?
Lol.......good stuff.
jim sylvester 11-30-2007, 06:05 PM 7 dollar plugs can do the trick though too... i caught my largest 47.75 pound fish on a bomber. so dont think it cant happen. dont get me wrong, the customs are amazing but sometimes the cheaper lures def dont get the acknowledgment they sometimes deserve.
nice fish!
this thread is making me laugh alot..a lot of you guys know what i am talking about
basswipe 11-30-2007, 06:20 PM onecastmike2003.....shame.Instead of offering good advice or help you became in instant a-hole.Something to strive for?I'm not sure.Why not try to contribute something positive.This is a community of fisherman,its not a community of sphincters.
Mike P 11-30-2007, 06:38 PM nice fish!
this thread is making me laugh alot..a lot of you guys know what i am talking about
Unfortunately, I do. :rollem:
Hey--after all--he never said HE caught that "38 pounder" ;)
BassDawg 11-30-2007, 06:50 PM Here's my ringing endorsement for The Edge.
Just ordered Zeno's new book, and had it in me grubby mitts
in two days. UPS, very neatly packed and a bonus SWE sticker to boot!!
The boyz at The Edge are very knowledgable, Pete places a very high priority on customer service, and they have not one but TWO of NE's sharpest pros at yer disposal should one decide to make the very worthwhile trip into their surfcasters heaven.
I have spoken with the Iron One and Steve McKenna at length on many occassions and each time they have been willing to put up with my case of the "hungries" and a trip there has always been worth its weight in gold and gas mileage. Hell, early(11:01 :)) one Sunday last Spring it was just Steve and me in the shop and he taught me his Sluggo rig, side by side, and then gave me a tutorial on his retrieve. Five minutes with Mike Everrin is like an entire season on the water. His ability to impart his knowledge in practical and no nonsense fashion has crushed my learning curve, radically.
While it's not the only place on the Striper Coast to get quality gear, attentive service, and invaluable helps and insights, it is always at the top of my list. Their online service and web site are top notch as well. Check 'em out danno1, you won't be disappointed :kewl:.
ilovetwofish 11-30-2007, 07:09 PM I read on the saltwater edge they were having a fishing show in February at the viking hotel.I was wondering if it was for anybody who wants to go and who of the plugbuiders will be there I'm going to start saving a little cash and would like to buy some of custom plugs.
BigFish 11-30-2007, 07:26 PM BigFish Bait Co. will be there! Should be alot of fun!:bounce:
afterhours 11-30-2007, 07:32 PM SWE fair- always a great time!
onecastmike2003 11-30-2007, 07:43 PM I know its another small one... 35 lbs will ya give me that..
I dont own a tape..
Pete_G 11-30-2007, 07:49 PM I read on the saltwater edge they were having a fishing show in February at the viking hotel.I was wondering if it was for anybody who wants to go and who of the plugbuiders will be there I'm going to start saving a little cash and would like to buy some of custom plugs.
I'll have the official roster out soon.
Anyone and everyone is invited. :btu:
ilovetwofish 11-30-2007, 08:01 PM Your quite the popular one insert foot in mouth!
I know its another small one... 35 lbs will ya give me that..
I dont own a tape..
tattoobob 11-30-2007, 08:03 PM Your quite the popular one insert foot in mouth!
Some people just don't get it, probably never will
I try to give everyone a fair shake and was not going to comment BUT....
you fish for stripers and you dont own a tape? are you strictly catch & release?:huh:
BigFish 11-30-2007, 09:08 PM Nope! Stretch and distort!:jump:
Fishpart 11-30-2007, 09:32 PM Surfcasting-Rhode Island is often overlooked; Joe has a good selection of often very hard to get plugs and great service and the same good advice you get from our other sponsors...
Basswipe's comment says it all and OCM's last post proves him to be a troublemaker and/or a clown. Shame. Danno, OCM's arrogance and malignant narcism should neither dissuade you from asking questions on this site, nor should it stop you from purchasing any and all plugs that, for whatever reason, catch your attention. Be forewarned that plugs are designed to catch fishermen first, then hopefully fish. Your BTW indicates to me that you don’t really know much about the Afterhours plug that you bought, but you didn’t let that stop you from buying it.
I choose to patronize smaller local tackle shops because these are the people who are closest to the action in the area I fish, and they will have a better idea if a specific type of plug, be it a brand name or a certain style, is working in the area, so striking up a relationship with a local owner(s) is important. If they don't stock a certain type of plug it may not work in that area like it works in others.
All plugs, expensive or inexpensive, will more than likely work, but time has to be invested in learning how to make said plug move just right and presenting it in an area that fish, for whatever reason, are attracted to. It took me a couple of years for me to learn how to get the first custom (as you put it, a “professional”) plug that I found success with, George Carlezon’s pencil popper, to dance just right, but once I did... And I’ve had great success with the aforementioned $6 plastic swimmer, the mambo minnow – worked for me straight out of the box. (A shout out to PIEMMA - silver/black still rule out back.)
I specifically use the least expensive plug or tin that I can find success with because I lose a large quantity of lures every year - I believe that if you are not losing tackle you're not doing it right, not putting yourself in a risky but productive situation (in my case, bluefish, seals or snapping it off, but for you it may be pilings, rocks or other structure). With all due respect to all of the craftsmen who sponsor and contribute to this site, it makes little/no sense to me to spend high dollars for a beautiful custom lure that, in my hands, would have an extremely limited life expectancy. But that is just me Danno, you may/will be different. Hopefully you won’t lose as much gear as I.
Mike P 11-30-2007, 09:39 PM you fish for stripers and you dont own a tape? are you strictly catch & release?:huh:
He's a freaking carpenter, for crissakes--of course he owns a tape. :rollem: What he doesn't own is a knack for telling the truth.
At least I would hope he owns one :doh:
Ass clown.
spence 11-30-2007, 10:04 PM I was just a "cut man" to my cat with the peroxide, wicked slash along his face (yea, he's gay...we're pretty sure). Must have been that stray that my looser neighbor started feeding that was stuck in my other looser neighbor's cellar for the past two weeks. I thought I heard something.
The point being, I'm sure he will heal. Cats are pretty tough, and if Lime hadn't got him yet I don't think this will.
-spence
tattoobob 11-30-2007, 10:10 PM If we weed thru the BS here there is a lot of great info.
Once you get a few good plugs you gain confidence in you will be all set. I only take 5 to 10 plugs with me and they are Needles, mambos and bombers. I have so much faith in the needle I never use anything else. unless it is live bait, nothing beats live bait
jim sylvester 11-30-2007, 10:18 PM dark, whites, greens
stick with those as starting points
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like everyone said before, another vote for Saltwater Edge and surfcasting RI...........outstanding people and customer service to boot...
sounds like your just a weekend kinda guy... some of us are hunting the bigest Bass we can find... Not just casting a 6 $ plug ...
the pic is why we dont fish Atom plugs...
And this post is why we dont take you seriously :rotfl:
Raider Ronnie 11-30-2007, 10:59 PM I'm thinking there may have to be a new award created for Onecastmike at this years TFCTF night!:jester:
I'm thinking there may have to be a new award created for Onecastmike at this years TFCTF night!:jester:
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BigBo 11-30-2007, 11:07 PM http://members.optusnet.com.au/~weezil0/douchebag.jpg
OCM is into water sports?:rotflmao:
well bob the fish is 46 in and 38 lbs on my custom... and a far cry from 20lb dink...!
rude people over here...
Merry Xmass Team S- Bass
Please, that fish is 38LB's no more than your other fraudulent fish was 46", 47", or whatever you claimed - OH wait a minute - you even lied about being the one to catch the fish to screw Jimmy out of a whole lot of plugs. Enough with the lies...
onecastmike2003 12-01-2007, 03:57 AM joe thats not true... I didn't try to screw anyone..
next year I will throw eels and not just pencils...untill I land another monster...
UserRemoved1 12-01-2007, 05:38 AM OMFG I just lost it. #1 post of the YEAR :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao::rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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BassDawg 12-01-2007, 06:26 AM 49 inch 21 inch girth measured and released taken on a black mambo dunno the weight hope shes still swimming. Its funny because I remember when I bought that lure, it was the last show msba had at the mall basement, when you went in the guy was setup midway through the floor on the left-hand-side, they were 2 for the price of 1. I think he was asking 6$ for two.
Nice ONE, Vic.......................
And I'll do the math.
21 x 21 x 49/800= 27.01 lbs.
She must've been a racer, still a very nice feesh on a $3.00 plug!!!
I've had a coupla takers on them bombers, nuthin' THAT big ~but they do brang tha fish :cool:.
And it is all about the confidence level and recognizing the right plug for the right conditions.
So far, I'm "fluent" with darters, danny's, AH sr spooks, and El Sluggo.
Loose stinking needles too fast to have landed anything on them!!
Must mean i'm fishing them right, right??? Have yet to fish a HABS, though!
That's prolly, why................
gone fishin 12-01-2007, 07:20 AM FYI----
fumifish 12-01-2007, 09:37 AM :lurk:
JohnR 12-01-2007, 10:07 AM FYI----
That weight chart also bases on Fork Length IIRC
:lurk:
No kidding :rotflmao:
BassDawg 12-01-2007, 10:43 AM Nebe, OMG!!!!
That is sum funny-arsed sheeet!
The perfect and "fitting" award.............
WATCHILLARIOUS, bro!
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Surfcasting-Rhode Island is often overlooked; Joe has a good selection of often very hard to get plugs and great service and the same good advice you get from our other sponsors...
yep, Joe is top notch. he's very forthcoming with info and has even been to known to take repeat customers fishing on occasion. not many places go above and beyond like he will. i learned a ton sitting around shooting the bull with Joe. I took my PB from a spot he reccommended when I was first starting out...
and ummm assdawg, i think vic's fish was a little bigger than 29#s.
Eben that was hilarious hahahaa
riverrat2 12-01-2007, 12:35 PM Bassdawg claims that a 49" fish weighs 29# than in the other thread he says his seasons best was 43" 33.5#????Most fish that length will way somewhere between 22-28# at the high end
tattoobob 12-01-2007, 12:59 PM http://members.optusnet.com.au/~weezil0/douchebag.jpg
:rotflmao::D:bl::wiggle::laughs::hf1::bl2:
yep, Joe is top notch. he's very forthcoming with info and has even been to known to take repeat customers fishing on occasion. not many places go above and beyond like he will. i learned a ton sitting around shooting the bull with Joe. I took my PB from a spot he reccommended when I was first starting out...
and ummm assdawg, i think vic's fish was a little bigger than 29#s.
Eben that was hilarious hahahaa
Bart your right Joe came out and showed me around Block Island my first trip out there
Tackle Direct - they have the slimmest margins....I'd go there instead of paying the high prices the sponsors here charge.
:jester::jester::jester:
Another vote for SCRI & SWE.
Awesome thread!!!
BassDawg 12-01-2007, 03:12 PM riverrat and bart :wave:,
The numbers don't lie, and
I'm sure that Vic knows that as well :huh:.
Short of you doing the math yourself, here is the formula that i used and it is the same one employed by the good folks at OTW for their Striper Cup: girth x girth x length/800 = pounds of striper.
Vic's fish, 21" x 21" x 49" = 21609~~~~21609/800 = 27.01#
BD's fish, 25" x 25" x 43" = 26875~~~~26875/800 = 33.59#
Also, iffin you were to look at gonefishin's chart, then you would find that my numbers are within the normal range of stripers that are 43" overall ~with the average being placed at 32#'s. Not too sure where ya come up with yer numbers riverrat, must be Rhody racers yer thinkin' of???
I know, i know riverrat.........it does seem kinda crazy, but there are some BIGGUNS layin' up in me honey cove. Ya should've been there the night I brought in a monstah way toooo green and she snapped 40# flouro like it was a guitar string. She made my 43"er look like a dink. I mean theys sum real FATTY'S up in there, and it is possible that Vic's feesh was a skinny beetch. Either that, or she could've been fooled by that black mambo before the fattening up stage had happened :wiggle::wiggle:.
The more I think about it the more I think that Vic's numbers must be off. Wouldn't the girth on a 49"er be bigger than 21"??? Doan know, since I cain't say that I've ever landed one that LAHHHHGE!
Mike P 12-01-2007, 03:48 PM I can remember when most every 43" fish was 30+, and most 46" fish were 40+----when we had a lot of big bait around :(
riverrat2 12-01-2007, 04:15 PM I got my numbers from real life experience not some equation that is used to boost C&R advocates ego's. I've weighed fish and used that equation, its always on the heavy side. The only numbers that truely don't like are the ones on the scale.
BassDawg 12-01-2007, 07:12 PM Just a little more info about me honey hole...........
There is a huge outer promintory, or small island type rock that is flanked by reefs to the north, a channel laced with bowls/pockets/and rips back into the isle, and a series of reefs that end at the mouth of a huge cove, that is filled with lobster pots.
That rock is reachable at an hour before Low, and castable at all times. It protects the outside from this sweet little boulder field that dumps into the rip between the above mentioned reefs, and a second set of reefs that form where the boulders stop and then they also meet on the southern end of the outer reefs and they all meet at the lobster pots that litter the mouth of this large cove.
Been mostly successful with chunks and eels, though a coupla times danny's and spooks have been the ticket for yer 36"-39" fatty's. Gonna pound the place with burgundy headed/blk bucktailed jigs and burgundy/white, and white/white next year. But so far BAIT has been the key to this very feeshnominal spot, and the BIG GURLS just keep getting bigger each year.......................:heybaby: :heybaby:
Nebe, OMG!!!!
That is sum funny-arsed sheeet!
The perfect and "fitting" award.............
WATCHILLARIOUS, bro!
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao: :rotflmao:
If he doesnt go to TFCTF night, i am sure we can find a good time to 'bequeef' the trophy to him :smokin:
bloocrab 12-01-2007, 10:35 PM I agree with riverrat about the formula, not all fish are built the same, some racers can have huge heads & shoulders...and others not, alot of variables to consider. You can't beat real life experiences. Now adding to that, ...quite a FEW years ago I was on Charlie's boat runnin Church's in my local river and we got PLENTY of fish measuring HIGH 40's and NOT reaching 30#s. VERY VERY SAD INDEED. Some of the LONGEST bass I've ever caught and Charlie was calling them "skinny",,,, I didn't understand his comment back then because shore bass were far and few for me, Large Bloofish RULED my haunts back then, if the Bloofish had stripes I got confused -
I don't doubt OCM's fish. You guys may just be fishing the wrong spots.... I got this 42 pound slob on one of Slips plugs. Thanks again Bruce!!! :musc:
StriperSniper 12-01-2007, 10:40 PM :uhoh:http://www.adcouncil.org/default.aspx?id=42
Slipknot 12-01-2007, 10:40 PM Anytime Gilly :D
I see that growth hormone you've been taking has worked wonders :btu:
I caught one 49" bass in my life, and the girth was just about 26" and it weighed 40 pounds exactly. I don't know if it has anything to do with this thread but that's my story.
bloocrab 12-01-2007, 10:50 PM It sure has Slip...:musc:
I've grown at least another 2 feet since you last saw me.
My casts have really improved too!!! I can almost hit the Christmas Tree Shop from the mainland.
Although I'm having a bit of problem finding boots high enough to wade thru my own chit - :rotf3:
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BassDawg 12-02-2007, 06:09 AM I got my numbers from real life experience not some equation that is used to boost C&R advocates ego's. I've weighed fish and used that equation, its always on the heavy side. The only numbers that truely don't like are the ones on the scale.
Agreed, riverrat, real life/feel is often the best way to "guage" the weight of our catches. Pretty much all of my first 30 keepers were in the 32"- 37" avg OA length. So, i know a 20# - 28# striper when I pick it up to unhook it and eyeball the length before I release it. But this season, using eeeeeels, has put some significantly bigger beeeotches on the end of my line. Since I believe so strongly in C&R, this seems to be the best way to account for the girth to length ratio.
Just a couple of questions.....................
Don't fish LOSE weight the longer they are out of the water?
Unless you had yer scale on the rocks wit ya, that may account for some of the discrepency. That is, iffin ya used the C&R Formula hours earlier at the rocks and then thru yer catch on a scale much later.
Secondly,
What kind of scale are you using? Many of the spring loaded hand held scales are less accurate the closer they get to their max. It's kinda like the difference between triple beams and digital. I learned back in the 70's that if you ain't usin' digitals when it comes to "weight", then somebody's getting ripped off ~dude :uhuh: :uhuh:!
Doan so much think that it is about ego, bro, as it is about calculating a general formula that provides the quickest way to approximate weight ~within a reasonably acceptable proximity of true weight~ that accounts for variance of girth as it relates to overall length in the real and earnest effort to release a catch in a safe and timely manner.
Think about it....................a 25" girth on a 43" feesh!! She was FAT and she was every bit of 30#, me bruddah. Also, I just use the formula because most of us agree that it is fair and "accurate" enough.
bloocrab 12-02-2007, 07:34 AM BDawg,
That's a LOT of fish/handling for a guy big into C&R -
A spring loaded scale requires a lot less handling and is probably just as accurate as calculating a guesstimated calculated weight. Just meye opinion anyways-
:usd:..and down deep, you NO you're a chest beeeter. :devil2:
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BassDawg 12-02-2007, 09:07 AM Not iffin ya keep her in tha surf, or on the wet weeds right next to it. Try to just touch the lips, with gloves, when possible. What's most important is how well she swims away.
I tell ya this spot of mine is the idealiest, pimpinest, feeshnominalest spot i've seen on the NShore :uhuh:, and she almost always produces for me. the scary part is i've only scratched the surface with what's on her outside.
Mostly quiet about me catches, unless of course it is included within the context of a response :bl:.
Swimmer 12-02-2007, 10:16 AM :tm:WACKY
WEDNESDAYS!:boots:
Pete F. 12-02-2007, 10:27 AM Slightly on the topic, not that this thread is off.
If you want to catch fish:
I would suggest going to a knowledgable shop where you can talk to someone about the place or places you like to fish and get a "few" suggestions of plugs to buy. Pay a good price, get good advice.
You could also look at a couple of articles, I think there is one by Steve McKenna on the Saltwater Edge site and one by Zeno on his site. Look for the common threads on what works.
If you want to collect plugs:
Ebay or the other place
Good luck fishing
Skitterpop 12-02-2007, 10:50 AM Fantasy Fishing is much like Fantasy Football but one needs to remember neither is real.
Anyone want to go out for an imaginary pass and catch an imaginary touchdown pass?
:bshake:
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