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cheferson
11-30-2007, 07:33 AM
Overnight shift to be classified as 'probable' cancer cause


LONDON, England (AP) -- Like UV rays and diesel exhaust fumes, working the graveyard shift will soon be listed as a "probable" cause of cancer.


Graveyard shift work disrupts the circadian rhythm, the body's biological clock.

It is a surprising step validating a concept once considered wacky. And it is based on research that finds higher rates of breast and prostate cancer among women and men whose work day starts after dark.

Next month, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, the cancer arm of the World Health Organization, will add overnight shift work as a probable carcinogen.

The American Cancer Society says it will likely follow. Up to now, the U.S. organization has considered the work-cancer link to be "uncertain, controversial or unproven."

The higher cancer rates don't prove working overnight can cause cancer. There may be other factors common among graveyard shift workers that raise their risk for cancer.

However, scientists suspect that overnight work is dangerous because it disrupts the circadian rhythm, the body's biological clock. The hormone melatonin, which can suppress tumor development, is normally produced at night.

If the graveyard shift theory eventually proves correct, millions of people worldwide could be affected. Experts estimate that almost 20 percent of the working population in developed countries work night shifts.

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Among the first to spot the night shift-cancer connection was Richard Stevens, a cancer epidemiologist and professor at the University of Connecticut Health Center. In 1987, Stevens published a paper suggesting a link between light at night and breast cancer.

Back then, he was trying to figure out why breast cancer incidence suddenly shot up starting in the 1930s in industrialized societies, where nighttime work was considered a hallmark of progress. Most scientists were bewildered by his proposal.

But in recent years, several studies have found that women working at night over many years were indeed more prone to breast cancer. Also, animals that have their light-dark schedules switched develop more cancerous tumors and die earlier.

Some research also suggests that men working at night may have a higher rate of prostate cancer.

Because these studies mostly focused on nurses and airline crews, bigger studies in different populations are needed to confirm or disprove the findings.

There are still plenty of skeptics. And to put the risk in perspective, the "probable carcinogen" tag means that the link between overnight work and cancer is merely plausible.

Among the long list of agents that are listed as "known" carcinogens are alcoholic beverages and birth control pills. Such lists say nothing about exposure amount or length of time or how likely they are to cause cancer. The American Cancer Society web site notes that carcinogens do not cause cancer at all times.

Still, many doubters of the night shift link may be won over by the IARC's analysis to be published in the December issue of the journal Lancet Oncology.

"The indications are positive," said Vincent Cogliano, who heads up the agency's carcinogen classifications unit. "There was enough of a pattern in people who do shift work to recognize that there's an increase in cancer, but we can't rule out the possibility of other factors."

Scientists believe having lower melatonin levels can raise the risk of developing cancer. Light shuts down melatonin production, so people working in artificial light at night may have lower melatonin levels.

Melatonin can be taken as a supplement, but experts don't recommend it long-term, since that could ruin the body's ability to produce it naturally.

Sleep deprivation may be another factor in cancer risk. People who work at night are not usually able to completely reverse their day and night cycles.

"Night shift people tend to be day shift people who are trying to stay awake at night," said Mark Rea, director of the Light Research Center at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in New York, who is not connected with the IARC analysis.

Not getting enough sleep makes your immune system vulnerable to attack, and less able to fight off potentially cancerous cells.

Confusing your body's natural rhythm can also lead to a breakdown of other essential tasks. "Timing is very important," Rea said. Certain processes like cell division and DNA repair happen at regular times.

Even worse than working an overnight shift is flipping between daytime and overnight work.

"The problem is resetting your body's clock," said Aaron Blair, of the United States' National Cancer Institute, who chaired IARC's recent meeting on shift work. "If you worked at night and stayed on it, that would be less disruptive than constantly changing shifts."

Anyone whose light and dark schedule is often disrupted -- including frequent long-haul travelers or insomniacs -- could theoretically face the same increased cancer risk, Stevens said.

He advises workers to sleep in a darkened room once they get off work. "The balance between light and dark is very important for your body. Just get a dark night's sleep."

Meanwhile, scientists are trying to come up with ways to reduce night workers' cancer risk. And some companies are experimenting with different lighting, seeking a type that doesn't affect melatonin production.

So far, the color that seems to have the least effect on melatonin is one that few people would enjoy working under: Red. E-mail to a friend

Clogston29
11-30-2007, 07:50 AM
i think anything, besides excercise, that puts stress on your body will increase your chances of cancer or any other problems. there are plenty of things that you can do to decrease your chances too. I guess all you can do is try to balance it out.

american spirit
11-30-2007, 08:36 AM
interesting study and thanks for sharing. i'll probably look into this more and try to find more information on it.

on the other hand, i feel like the media informs us of a potential cancer causer every week. i don't want to live my life in fear. and certainly don't want to stop fishing at night.

eastendlu
11-30-2007, 09:06 AM
Thats it i quit!!! I'll never work again!!!:shocked:

Brother Brian
11-30-2007, 09:19 AM
A little while after your welcome to the Big C club, you begin to discover that just about everything could be classified as a factor. The more research I did the more I realized that there is VERY little definate knowledge about this subject. Cro Magnon man knew as much about particle physics as we know about causual relationships. So it goes :)

ProfessorM
11-30-2007, 10:10 AM
I'm doomed. I work in a loud, smelly, bad air facility with limited sleep and at nite. I need to make a will out fast. Who wants my plugs?

zimmy
11-30-2007, 10:13 AM
It does make sense. There is no question that it affects your immune system etc. Thing with all these risks is that it makes sense to do whatever is reasonable to limit your risk factors. Definately no guarentees, but limiting the barage as much as possible makes sense.

Saltheart
11-30-2007, 10:52 AM
Increased breast and prostate cancer??? It must be because those 3rd shifters are not really working. maybe they spend all night .......... :love: :confused: :)

Sorry , just in one of them moods today. :)

Backbeach Jake
11-30-2007, 12:14 PM
My Dad worked swing shift in a Power plant as an operator. I can't think of any of the guys who worked with him who didn't have health problems in their 40s and 50s. They knew it too, screwed up circadian, noise, beat those guys to death, literally.

Joe
11-30-2007, 12:24 PM
When I first started in the printing biz I was working third shift and one of the guys from the pressroom wanted to have sex in the pre-press area (where I worked) with this girl from the mailroom.
He asked if I would not mind leaving for a little while. I told him, "Sure."
But I worked with this older guy who used to sleep on the job, so I asked the guy from the pressroom, "What about him?" He said, "Don't worry about it - he snoozes right through."

Gunpowder
11-30-2007, 12:42 PM
ure gonna die from somethin, mise well be fishin too much :)

Andy D
11-30-2007, 12:46 PM
I've worked 3rd shift for a phamaceutical co. and now a hospital. Both in the maint. departments. I don't sleep after work I stay up until
4 or 5pm . It's just a matter of reworking your bodyclock. I prefer to work these hrs. it just seems that first they tell you you can't drink coffee then they say it's o.k now they tell you not to work graveyard shift. Next week they will tell you it's actually good for your body. If fishing at nite gives you cancer I'd have been dead a long time ago.
Live and enjoy life . Don't live scared

Rockport24
11-30-2007, 05:14 PM
I would think the main factor is lack of sleep, so if you work the night shift but still get in a full nights sleep at some point during the day, you should be alright.

basswipe
11-30-2007, 05:48 PM
And just discovered...sex is also a carcinogen.Doing it causes the cancer.

Ya ain't gonna stop the humpity-hump no matter what!

Jesus H Christ on a crutch!!!!What's Next?!!!!!

If anyone here is actually worried about getting cancer because you keep "off hours"..........shoot yourselves now because the ulcer that's been eating at your insides for the last 20 years will certainly kill you.

:hs::hs::hs:.

Enough is enough FDA.

BassDawg
11-30-2007, 07:52 PM
While living in Orlando, maybe five years ago, I worked nights for Mickey tieing rods. We had no choice as we couldn't place and tie rebar with a Park full of people. That being said, I have two things to add..................

We were afforded a shift differential of $2.50/hour and there was a big OSHA poster documenting the hazards of working the "graveyard" hours. The upset circadian rythm, increased heart attack risks, and immune system weakness were the ones that concerned me the most. Like anything else we put our bodies through, I believe with proper preventative measures (dark sleep, leafy greens, regular prostate check-ups, and wheatgrass for immunity build-up to name a few) our body's ability to adjust and adapt to various types of rigors is amazing.

I also stocked groceries for a large chain in my twenties at night. Didn't feel it then, but I did feel it more or notice a difference in my general well being when I worked those hours for Disney in my early forties. Could these forces wear more on our bodies the older we get? Seems like the jury is still out on anything definitive, but it is cause for concern and thanks for the heads up, Cheferson :usd:.

The second thing is simply this: Coincidence, or poignancy that those working hours are commonly referred to as the Graveyard Shift? Not gonna keep me outta the surf at night, though. I've got all winter to sleep and I feel that short term exposure to sleep deprivation is not as costly as a lifetime/career of those types of strains to one's physicology. Carcinogens are everywhere and for the most part it takes prolonged exposure to impact the human body negatively, imho.

Lastly, diet ~or the garbage we stuff our faces with~ has a huge bearing on whether or not the cancer cells present in EVERYONE'S system grow and become a potential "problem". John Hopkins just published a very interesting study detailing several ways to avoid the everyday exposure types of things.

In the diet realm of their report, what stuck out the most for me were the foods that "feed" the bad cancer cells. Two of me favorites, naturally. Sugar and Fat. They're both in everything, or anything "worth" eating. At 47, it's time for me to make some changes and better culinary choices. Not a cure, certainly, but it cain't hurt to eat better and exercise more often ~at any age.

The Hopkins study also warned us not to drink from plastic bottles (water, sports drinks, teas) that have been frozen, not to drink from plastic bottles that have been over-exposed to the sun, and not to heat anything in the micro in plastic/tupperware as all of these factors release the carcinogens from the plastic and into the food.

Just some FYI, hope this helps. The Hopkins Study should be available on the net as there was much more there.....................