View Full Version : well....first attempt


MrHunters
12-31-2007, 12:46 PM
heres some pics of my first wrapping.

sitting in the dryer right now.

first lets marvel at my wrapping station :) it is very fancy and high tech.

http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1178-1/from+camera+177.jpg

guide wraps. (have not started decorative yet. I wish all guide wraps came at like this one but unfortunately no. need to work on keeping the wraps tighter.
http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1146-1/rod+wrapping+007.jpg

here is one that did not come out so good.

http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1142-1/rod+wrapping+005.jpg

this is a tough hobby... i give much props to you guys that do it well.

on to the decorative next.

fishaholic18
12-31-2007, 03:15 PM
Good start.
You can still tighten them wraps with a little more packing.
Did you double up the overwrap, you can still do that too if you choose.
Keep up the good work, you'll be surprised how fast you become a pro.:kewl:

MrHunters
12-31-2007, 03:39 PM
see that's the type of stuff that is priceless to beginners.
didnt know you could double up on the over wraps!

that will clean that up good.

MrHunters
12-31-2007, 03:40 PM
ps

the motor and the chuck work great... little wobbly but perfect for what im doing,

thanks again.

MrHunters
12-31-2007, 04:04 PM
the other thing i will pay more attention to next time is keeping both sides of the guide even. for some reason i didnt think that was important this time around :hidin:

MiKeYGruBTaIL
12-31-2007, 07:14 PM
i remember my first rod!! wait untill you fish that thing and hook up its a great feeling.Try next time to double wrap the overwrap it would eliminate the gaps you have or any imperfections. by the way great job

beamie
01-01-2008, 05:48 AM
That's a nice start for a first rod.

Is that size D thread over D thread? If so an A underwrap will make the D overwrap go on easier. Did you use a burnishing tool after you wrapped it? That will move the threads a bit and hide some of the gaps.

As far as keeping the wrap even on both sides it isn't easy on that type of guide since the guide is not symetrical. One foot is longer than the other and if you extend the wrap the same distance beyond the foot it will always be different. No one will notice though except you.

I bet you can't wait to start the next rod. It is an addictive winter hobby.

junkmansj
01-01-2008, 10:05 AM
Catching your first fish on a Rod you built yourself is Great feeling,To catch a Large fish first time out is Priceless

The photo is ov a 60# -49" Blk Drumfish I caught off the Beach here in Cape May on the Rod in the photo. That was the First trip for that rod
I just stripped and rebuilt it!

MrHunters
01-01-2008, 01:30 PM
its A under D

the double up made all the difference. Was able to do all the wraps in one sitting where the first go round took a week or so :hidin: heres an update of the second layer.
same guide as the one above
http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1364-1/rod+wrapping+2+038.jpg

Saltheart
01-02-2008, 11:05 AM
Double wrap of D thread is too much. Use A under and A over. Burnish the threads too. that will often fill the little gaps where the silver is leaking through. You can double wrap with the A no problem but with two layers of D , the wrap will be too thick. i can't imagine why you would want to overwrap a guide with D thread?

Sweetwater
01-02-2008, 07:13 PM
If you underwrap with A and overwrap with D, you probably won't need to double wrap. But as earlier mentioned, use your burnishing tool to smooth the threads and let them fall in better. With a single wrap of D, once you flex coat the wrap most small imperfections will disappear. Nice job.

fishaholic18
01-02-2008, 10:40 PM
Under wrap A Double overwrap D is fine, when u get better as I did, all A, under and double over, All that matters is what works for u. Have fun:nopain:

fishaholic18
01-02-2008, 10:43 PM
its A under D

the double up made all the difference. Was able to do all the wraps in one sitting where the first go round took a week or so :hidin: heres an update of the second layer.
same guide as the one above
http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1364-1/rod+wrapping+2+038.jpg

Huge improvement...keep it up:kewl::kewl:

fishaholic18
01-02-2008, 10:51 PM
Next time, try laying the silver A, pack it tight, then start the blue on the ends of silver and wrap in sort of like the pic

fishaholic18
01-02-2008, 10:55 PM
ideas

Goose
01-02-2008, 11:23 PM
Lookin Good. my .02 On my overwraps I try to put eqaul amount of thread on each foot. As the giudes get bigger 30-40-50 spinning guides,,the more off centered they need to be on the under wrap in order to get the uniformed look. casting guides or smaller guides its not noticable. my.02

MrHunters
01-03-2008, 02:58 PM
Next time, try laying the silver A, pack it tight, then start the blue on the ends of silver and wrap in sort of like the pic




next week :drool:

how'd you get the pic to come out so clear. I tried
macro on macro off flash on flash off and all the combinations.

taJon
01-04-2008, 01:54 PM
that looks pretty good. I think you stole my color idea though ;D

wfmdfm
01-05-2008, 07:22 PM
I wrap with a lighted maginfining glass. When you mess up under glass it looks like crap and you fix it. Then take away the glass and it looks like its painted on. Just my 0.02. Nice project and I bet the winter is flying buy for you.

taJon
01-06-2008, 08:45 PM
I wrap with a lighted maginfining glass. When you mess up under glass it looks like crap and you fix it. Then take away the glass and it looks like its painted on. Just my 0.02. Nice project and I bet the winter is flying buy for you.


thats a really good idea.

MrHunters
01-07-2008, 09:21 AM
decorative wrap is drying as we speak. I packed the blue over silver wrap as tight as I could for the "ends" and when I applied the finish the silver still bled through!!!, so ill have to double up on that tonight. Maybe im doing something wrong?? or is that common when you use the thicker thread?

taJon
01-07-2008, 09:29 AM
lets see the decorative! I think I'm just gonna do stickers :D

MrHunters
01-07-2008, 06:56 PM
here goes nothin

http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1487-1/rod2+009.jpg

http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1495-1/rod2+011.jpg

taJon
01-08-2008, 01:00 PM
that looks awesome! Wow, great work.

did you use a template or anything?

taJon
01-08-2008, 01:02 PM
So do you think you'll ever buy a rod again?

MrHunters
01-08-2008, 02:31 PM
just the straight up diamond pattern.


and probably not :) at least not completely assembled :)

taJon
01-08-2008, 05:19 PM
hopefully the blank will be good......it looks good in the pic.

how long is the diamond wrap? Can you post a pic of the whole thing, maybe with the 550ssg on it?

wfmdfm
01-08-2008, 06:14 PM
Very nice butt wrap!!

wfmdfm
01-08-2008, 06:21 PM
Looks like you have a good area to work in. I find comfort makes it go much better. My work area has many function. Some times I am able to multi task while working there.

MrHunters
01-08-2008, 07:44 PM
the wrap is 9 inches i think....

ill get full pics when its done drying :)... tomorrow

MrHunters
01-08-2008, 07:46 PM
Looks like you have a good area to work in. I find comfort makes it go much better. My work area has many function. Some times I am able to multi task while working there.

looks like i have another project before my next wrap :rotf3:

Saltheart
01-09-2008, 09:20 AM
good effort on the cross wrap.

Doing the thread work requires that you lay down thread , then pack it. No matter how well you lay down complicated patterns , unless you pack it showing no daylight , you are not capitalizing on all the work laying the thread down.

I find it better if I pack every 3 or 4 sets of threads (in a diamond like yours there are 4 threads in a "set" as I describe it so there are actually 12 to 16 layed down then packed) . i sometimes just lay down the whole pattern then pack but that is more work packing and more time consuming in the long run if you intend to pack until all daylight is gone.

Anyway , next rod , practice packing the thread. use the burnishing tool on almost every thread or on every 4 in the cross wrap as a beginner. You will be amazed at how much better the final product will be. You can also use the burnishing tool , as you do the guide wraps , and pack as you go.

eventually , you will be laying the thread down tighter and need little packing on the guides (but almost always a little) but you will never eliminate the need to pack the threads in the cross wrap if you want perfect work.

Congrats on #1 rod. Good Luck with 2.

MrHunters
01-09-2008, 11:37 AM
when you pack... i am assuming you mean pressing the threads together.

during the diamond pattern i would do that and it always seemed to go to where it was originally laid out.

Saltheart
01-09-2008, 01:52 PM
If they spring right back when you try to pack them , you probably have too much thread tension when you laid them down. The threads need to be fairly loose. tight enough so you can keep them columnated but loose enough so you can easily move them with the tip of the burnishing tool and they will stay put. there are many tricks but for you , start by wrapping the next one with less tension on the thread.

the key to pro quality cross wraps is in the packing. Anyone can figure out what order and direction , etc to lay down thread but can you pack the threads when the build up is high? When a pro looks at a cross wrap , he will not even look at the real details if he sees daylight showing through everywhere.

MrHunters
01-09-2008, 02:41 PM
wrapping snob :jester:

im lucky i just got though it without snapping the thing it two!

If they spring right back when you try to pack them , you probably have too much thread tension when you laid them down. The threads need to be fairly loose. tight enough so you can keep them columnated but loose enough so you can easily move them with the tip of the burnishing tool and they will stay put. there are many tricks but for you , start by wrapping the next one with less tension on the thread.

the key to pro quality cross wraps is in the packing. Anyone can figure out what order and direction , etc to lay down thread but can you pack the threads when the build up is high? When a pro looks at a cross wrap , he will not even look at the real details if he sees daylight showing through everywhere.

Goose
01-09-2008, 02:46 PM
Nice looking wrap

taJon
01-13-2008, 09:41 AM
Wheres the full pic of it done? did you wrap the tip?

MrHunters
01-17-2008, 07:56 PM
Wheres the full pic of it done? did you wrap the tip?

just cause you asked

http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1540-2/rod_a+001.jpg

taJon
01-18-2008, 09:55 AM
what size tip did you use? The ones I got don't fit over the end of the rod :(

I like it. Looks really good. Is that the 5500 on there?

MrHunters
01-18-2008, 11:04 AM
what size tip did you use? The ones I got don't fit over the end of the rod :(

I like it. Looks really good. Is that the 5500 on there?

i think we went with a 7, maybe a 7.5..

what did you try?

taJon
01-18-2008, 11:12 AM
I thought it was gonna be an 8 but i think its a 6.

package read 8-6.?. I'll bring them back next week. I'm headed to the show now so I'll catch you later.

taJon
01-18-2008, 11:13 AM
7.5 is what is listed for the blank. Did you cast it yet? I'm anxious to hear about the action.
Should we get more while i"m in ORL?

MrHunters
01-18-2008, 11:18 AM
7.5 is what is listed for the blank. Did you cast it yet? I'm anxious to hear about the action.
Should we get more while i"m in ORL?

you sound like a crack addict :rotf2::rotf2: just takes one hit.

I still got another one to make.

crap i just bought a 7 and a 6.5 hope i can squeeze it on.