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MrHunters
01-11-2008, 09:19 AM
Any of you builders make your wrappers?

After my first rod I decided to buy some wood and put one together...But Im going off what I've seen on the internet....So maybe Im missing something clever or important in my design.

I'll post mine if you post yours :):beat::eek5:

taJon
01-11-2008, 10:08 AM
Just a thought.

The hole that the bolt goes thru needs to be snug so that it won't wobble, yet at the same time loose enough to spin freely. I think that a spacer cut to length and inserted is the thing to do. I'm getting one today from autozone. It'll be from a set of sway bar endlinks.?.

MrHunters
01-11-2008, 12:27 PM
Just a thought.

The hole that the bolt goes thru needs to be snug so that it won't wobble, yet at the same time loose enough to spin freely. I think that a spacer cut to length and inserted is the thing to do. I'm getting one today from autozone. It'll be from a set of sway bar endlinks.?.

your right... what creates the wobble is the drive belt pulling down which is just enough for a snug wood hole to create a crappy wobble.

I've had a little luck with, in a matter of speaking, doing what you suggest by buidling up the sleeve of the chuck shaft.... this is with wood though... so, though it helps the wobble...it is still there.

Goose
01-11-2008, 01:19 PM
I have seen some effective set ups that where brain stormed.
If you study how good roller setup is put together you'll notice that wing nutts allows to control tension, very important. The make-shifts I've seen where made from in-line roller skate wheels. Two wheels evenly spaced is where the blank sits and a separate top movable piece having one wheel sits on top of the blank, this piece has a groove and wing nutts so that its adjustable.
Mikecc gave me a similar set used for drying purpose but with a little ingenuity you can wrap rods with it too.

MrHunters
01-11-2008, 01:37 PM
I have seen some effective set ups that where brain stormed.
If you study how good roller setup is put together you'll notice that wing nutts allows to control tension, very important. The make-shifts I've seen where made from in-line roller skate wheels. Two wheels evenly spaced is where the blank sits and a separate top movable piece having one wheel sits on top of the blank, this piece has a groove and wing nutts so that its adjustable.
Mikecc gave me a similar set used for drying purpose but with a little ingenuity you can wrap rods with it too.

ive seen exactly what your talking about. I just need to figure out how to make the groove without the proper tools. :wid:

Right now I have 2 - 1x3x4's spaced just slightly apart and up on feet.

the rod supports slide along the groove with wingnut and lockwasher amd bolt through the support and groove it to secure it when its in the right place. This definetly helps keep it straight when its in the chuck...

taJon
01-12-2008, 10:08 PM
pics? detailed up close ones?

junkmansj
01-13-2008, 12:10 PM
this is the Lathe I made. Sewing machine motor to Stren Spool with Belt the silver piece is the Meat Grinder Attachment from a Old Sunbean stand Mixer. Chuck is Pac-Bay. PVC works also. Roller stands are just all thread with Alum Angle

junkmansj
01-13-2008, 12:12 PM
the Wood bed was taken from elsewhere The Desk front rollers are what I use now
You can also buy T-Trak from Rockler supply also t -bolts and Knobs

junkmansj
01-13-2008, 12:45 PM
this is another hand unit I use for longer rods 2 -3/4"X2" X6ft with a Alum track from a Bi-fold door set And a Home made thread Carrage using a Neptune thread tension devise. Small thread block is in a Dove tail slot with a Single foot guide glued in

junkmansj
01-13-2008, 12:50 PM
just a shot of the Trak, These are the bolts on left is a slider I made,just alum block cut to fit with a 1/4"drilled and Tapped bolt thru.
bolt on right is just a Toilet bolt which works well with a Tee-Slot.

While driving around keep your Eyes open for Exersize Equipt out for Trash, Thats where I get the Plastic Threaded Knobs I use

wfmdfm
01-13-2008, 05:50 PM
Your a very clever man!

taJon
01-13-2008, 08:32 PM
those look great. how do your rods come out?

junkmansj
01-14-2008, 11:49 AM
I really do not take many photos of my rods.I usually do not build Fancy rods,just basic working rods. here are two I have

junkmansj
01-14-2008, 11:54 AM
Be very care full using Roller blade wheels,if they are not NEW, they get grit,dirt and glass inbeded in them,and always use masking tape on the blank where the wheels will ride. they are made hard to support weight and will scrape the blank. You can get small bearing mounted idler pullys that will hold a rubber O-ring. google Idler pullys or Smallparts .com

junkmansj
01-14-2008, 12:17 PM
Got these off E-Bay(Rodbuilding pages) o-rings from Ace Hardware

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330194923676

outnumbered
01-14-2008, 01:00 PM
Here is my self built wrapper. I am in the process of converting it to a power wrapper but have wrapped about 20 rods by hand. If you only do one every so often it is almost as easy to turn them by hand I think others may not.

junkmansj
01-14-2008, 02:08 PM
Looks Good! I only do 3-4 a year, using the Desk Rollers. The power wrapper is only used for long underwraps (butt)

taJon
01-14-2008, 05:30 PM
Jman I like those wraps.

junkmansj
01-14-2008, 08:21 PM
The X flock is on a Lami 11 Footer,I added almost a foot to make comfortable for me to cast. When it was Given to me the butt was too Short. (20 inches)inner sleeved it re-enforced it with Thread wraps, re-wrapped it with cork Tape and then X-Flocked it. Casts like a Dream now! Its a Lami Glass Blank.

Anybody going to High Point NC next month

taJon
01-17-2008, 04:45 PM
very basic and beginner. New and improved on the way.

MrHunters
01-17-2008, 05:57 PM
okie,

havent put the motor back on... BUT for the shaft hole through the wood, I cut down a bic pen and it really helps the wobble:lurk:

http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1507-2/wrapper+001.jpg

http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1514-2/wrapper+002.jpg

thread holder thing
http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1519-2/wrapper+003.jpg

bic pen hole
http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1524-2/wrapper+004.jpg

whole ting

http://fishingnewengland.net/gallery/d/1529-2/wrapper+005.jpg

taJon
01-17-2008, 06:58 PM
that looks really good. When are you adding this service to your website?

wfmdfm
01-21-2008, 09:32 PM
This is what I use for my drying. It is a old rotisairy motor from my grill. I also only make 5 or 6 rods per year and hand wrap them. After seeing some of these pictures I may mess around making a lathe for wraping.

wfmdfm
01-21-2008, 09:35 PM
My first a few years ago.

wfmdfm
01-21-2008, 09:39 PM
One of my lates- a christmas gift for my son.

wfmdfm
01-21-2008, 09:41 PM
One I made for me- I cant stand the cast I get from it. Next.

taJon
01-22-2008, 07:42 AM
is that Xs over chevrons?

wfmdfm
01-22-2008, 06:08 PM
I dont know its just me messing around with thread.

wfmdfm
01-26-2008, 06:54 PM
taJon on your wrapper did you use a bearing or just a hole drilled in the wood on the motor side of the chuck? I am starting to assemble some of my junk to make one.

wfmdfm
01-26-2008, 07:05 PM
Here are a couple of othere pictures of the wrap. I realy dont know a Cheveron from a Chevy but maybe these will give you a better look. Regardless the rod itself still s#^&*.

taJon
01-28-2008, 12:13 PM
stand by, I'll post some pics in a bit.

taJon
01-28-2008, 12:20 PM
heres the pics of my newest wrapper. still nothing fancy at all, but theres no more wobble and its smooth as glass when wrapping.

nightprowler
01-28-2008, 04:30 PM
why do you guys use a "gear type" set-up (don't know what else to call it) as opposed to putting the chuck directly onto the motor?

wfmdfm
01-28-2008, 04:52 PM
Is your shaft a front end stabilizer?

taJon
01-28-2008, 08:12 PM
Is your shaft a front end stabilizer?

No one has ever called it that before!!

All kidding aside, its a sway bar endlink for a GMC 1500.

taJon
01-28-2008, 08:13 PM
why do you guys use a "gear type" set-up (don't know what else to call it) as opposed to putting the chuck directly onto the motor?

I guess that this just seemed easier and for the fact that I didn't think to do it that way.

junkmansj
01-28-2008, 08:40 PM
taJon Glad to see someone else uses spools to there best Advantage

taJon
01-29-2008, 10:53 AM
I also use them as leader keepers too. Works pretty good, imo.

wfmdfm
01-29-2008, 04:30 PM
Not many reconized it as a auto part- at least I knew it was part of the front end. Not bad for a electrical worker. Where the end link passes thru the wood is there a bearing or bushing or just a hole drilled in the wood block?

taJon
01-29-2008, 05:51 PM
The hole is drilled into the wooden block. Then insert the metal spacer that comes with the endlink. Grease it up real good, then pass the bolt through and use as much or as few spacers as necessary. In order to keep the chuck in the right spot, I used a lock nut on the wooden side and a washer/nut combo on the inside of the chuck.

heres a pic of what you'll get from the autoparts store. the metal spacer in the middle of the assembly is what goes through the wood.

Vogt
01-29-2008, 07:07 PM
Here are a couple of othere pictures of the wrap. I realy dont know a Cheveron from a Chevy but maybe these will give you a better look. Regardless the rod itself still s#^&*.

What blank is the rod built on?

wfmdfm
03-01-2008, 04:35 PM
Sorry for the delay. I just found your question. The blank was a Lumiglass 7ft 18-30lb 1-3oz. I built it fo Blues and stripers but I should have used something lighter. I just made one for my son that I cast today for the first time. It a American Tackle 7ft 12-25lb 1/4-1/2 oz. Much better cast. I think that will be my next rod and save the other for tuna.

junkmansj
03-01-2008, 08:59 PM
since my last post 1/13 I went a Little nuts. So heres the Proof! 80-20 Track,Hand cut and Finished uprights,Rollers from Smallparts.com and The Thread carrier slides on Knurled Brass Thumb nuts. Thread Tension device is from Neptune out in Cali.

junkmansj
03-01-2008, 09:00 PM
Still Nuts

junkmansj
03-01-2008, 09:03 PM
And finally! Thats a New Pac-Bay Chuck Assembly I picked up in High Point at the Rod builders Show

wfmdfm
03-02-2008, 07:49 AM
Very nice !!

taJon
03-02-2008, 02:09 PM
very fancy. You'll have to build lots of rods now.