While he may not be a member of this site , Jim White is in the technology age and reads what goes on Often...He just sent me this email and told me to post it...It speaks for itself..




"Billy:

I've been on the bay since I've been 5-years old with my father and grandfather. I've fished commercially with a rod and reel, run lobster pots, dug clams and quhougs and run a full time charter business for 18-years I've also mated for some of the best captains in Pt Judith and Snug Harbor. I remember when cod and pollock could be caught in the bay, let alone, striped bass.
In all that time I've seen many come and many more go. There is always someone who wants to be the first on the block for doing something when it comes to fishing. Someone discovered the perfect spot, the perfect bait, the perfect lure, the perfect techniuque and on and on. Time measured in hours and minutes has a different meaning than when I went to school. It used to take 365 days to make a year, and 10-years to make a decade. In today's world, you fish for five or six years, and that's equivilant to forty or fifty years. Hell, there's one captain now who's got 25 years of all of types of fishing experience and is only 29-years old. That must be some kind of new math where you combine algebra and calculous to get the figure you want.The stuff that comes up on that site is amazing, going so low as to pick on a guys wife acussing her of being a stripper because they don't like him. I've always wondered how so many people who claim to hate the man have seen his show and knows what he does.
If I spent the time arguing about how many boats I see fishing in areas that I fish, I'd probably never catch another fish in my life. There wouldn't be any time left to fish. Fish also do this strange this called swimming. They also don't conform to what any human believes they should be comforming to.
There are at least 20 or more areas in the bay where you can fish each one for 10 or 15 minutes and move to the next and catch almost the same tide if you know where to go and how to make the right moves. if there are boats in spot 1, 2, or 3, you simply go to number 4, 5, or 6. if you don't know that, then you don't have enough time (years) on the water to begin with.
What amazes me is, the spot in question on the video didn't produce one single fish nor even a hit that day. if I were looking for somewhere to go, that would surely be the first on my list where two guys caught nothing. Makes perfect sense to me.
This is one of the reasons I don't get on these sites. More bull than content."

Jim White

" Time measured in hours and minutes has a different meaning than when I went to school. It used to take 365 days to make a year, and 10-years to make a decade. In today's world, you fish for five or six years, and that's equivilant to forty or fifty years. "


:bl2::bl2: Never have more true words been spoken...Just pick up the fishing mags or read the various sites and its right there..

if he's gonna respond, why not respond here? :confused:

Well said Bill. :wid: it is what it is..........

if he's gonna respond, why not respond here? :confused:

I think he is close to doing so:D

One thing is for sure Jim is a lot sharper with the pen than I...I hope he does come on but, be carefull what you ask for...Jim holds no punches...But thats what I respect about him ! But with 800 mods stacked against certain people, I think jim may not be allowed his freedom of speach, you think I am bad...oh man I hope jim signs up!

Jim should not generalize....not everyone on here is a tool!:hs:

Jim should not generalize....not everyone on here is a tool!:hs:


Larry, I think I can speak for jim when I say...he just sees past the BS and is not afraid to say so...The guy is well respected paid tons of dues, has written two books and over 2000 articles and done countless 100s of seminars all over the country, however if you put him on here, he would not be listened to, and for the person in the last post to say Jim would burn a spot is mind numbing, I mean the guy is 60 years old and has forgotton more than most think they know? He has an impecable reputation, I think unlike me, he is smart enough not to come on here and get abused for his point of view...something I am all to use to...But for some reason get it when its not warrented...anyway, that was a private email to me that he told me on the phone to go ahead and put it up...Jim reads this board all the time, he is well aware of what goes on if your not in the "circle" or dont comform to the cronies...its noticable to him and I am sure a few others that advice given here is only taken or listened to when it conforms to what the core of the board feels is apropriate, anyone else is called a "celebrity" "spot burner" lousy bait fisherman" etc...you get my point...Only surfcasting is good, boats suck, its cheating....that type of thing...But anyway if he wants on I am sure he is capable of doing so when he is ready...Jim is a good friend of mine and a fishing partner, I dont want him to get what I get...

But with 800 mods stacked against certain people, I think jim may not be allowed his freedom of speach, you think I am bad...oh man I hope jim signs up!

:eek:
Geesh Thanks Bill :doh:



"stacked against certain people" ? please elaborate

I'll look into that wife comment

Bill all I can do is respect the opinions of those who know alot better than me! Guys like you and Jim have a long history on the water and the knowledge that goes along with that! All this spot talk is ridiculous! Fishing is not brain surgery....sure the technique of fishing a certain method and being proficient at it is the key......spots is spots and folks were fishing them long before any of us were here!

Bill all I can do is respect the opinions of those who know alot better than me! Guys like you and Jim have a long history on the water and the knowledge that goes along with that! All this spot talk is ridiculous! Fishing is not brain surgery....sure the technique of fishing a certain method and being proficient at it is the key......spots is spots and folks were fishing them long before any of us were here!


Yup agreed ! I really hope John does not take this personall because it isnt about him, the board is an entity all by itself larger than him...this isnt personall at all..

Anyway your right and get in touch this spring so I can take you to these spots that are secret and liveline some bunker!

Larry, I think I can speak for jim when I say...he just sees past the BS and is not afraid to say so...The guy is well respected paid tons of dues, has written two books and over 2000 articles and done countless 100s of seminars all over the country, however if you put him on here, he would not be listened to, and for the person in the last post to say Jim would burn a spot is mind numbing, I mean the guy is 60 years old and has forgotton more than most think they know? He has an impecable reputation, I think unlike me, he is smart enough not to come on here and get abused for his point of view...something I am all to use to...But for some reason get it when its not warrented...anyway, that was a private email to me that he told me on the phone to go ahead and put it up...Jim reads this board all the time, he is well aware of what goes on if your not in the "circle" or dont comform to the cronies...its noticable to him and I am sure a few others that advice given here is only taken or listened to when it conforms to what the core of the board feels is apropriate, anyone else is called a "celebrity" "spot burner" lousy bait fisherman" etc...you get my point...Only surfcasting is good, boats suck, its cheating....that type of thing...But anyway if he wants on I am sure he is capable of doing so when he is ready...Jim is a good friend of mine and a fishing partner, I dont want him to get what I get...

"I think unlike me, he is smart enough not to come on here and get abused for his point of view...something I am all to use to.." you seem to thrive on it from time to time. :)

the rest of your speech sounds like a generalization that is taken a bit too serious, lighten up. Take what you can from a fishing website and contribute what you can, it's supposed to be about fishing not confrontational.
If you can fix the site, go for it, we all know who owns it.

I don't even know why I responded to this.
:wall:

Yup agreed ! I really hope John does not take this personall because it isnt about him, the board is an entity all by itself larger than him...this isnt personall at all..

Anyway your right and get in touch this spring so I can take you to these spots that are secret and liveline some bunker!

That sounds great Bill! I hear its easy?:rotflmao:

Yup agreed ! I really hope John does not take this personall because it isnt about him, the board is an entity all by itself larger than him...this isnt personall at all..

Anyway your right and get in touch this spring so I can take you to these spots that are secret and liveline some bunker!


oh
it's not personal

I guess I'm just confused with all the jumping around :cputin:

You have got to be kidding me, I think I have seen it all now

:eek:
Geesh Thanks Bill :doh:



"stacked against certain people" ? please elaborate

I'll look into that wife comment


Ok guess I will and you asked...It is my opinion...only an opinion and not prsonall against one person, that mods are chosen based not on any other reason except they conform to a certain ideology almost in my mind like a cult setting, if you think "outside" certain parameters or have just a slightly shaded view of things you are not fit to be a mod....So thats what I think, there are people here who have been on since day one and before that...yet they will never get that shot because they are either not with the core or, because they are pashinate about certain issues that somehow makes them mentaly unfit to be a mod...Most of the mods are also people who were involved in that "secret" bashing board of a couple years ago, in there they were free to say whatever they wanted about there fellow man....but never on the board oh no, it wouldnet conform...I kind of see it as robots with almost no free will...Thats only my opinion..

I would never want to do it and thats not my goal, just calling it as I see it...One thing I am not is a robot...I have seen some people pull posts for no good reason? except they didnt like the person, thats all I can think of...

Ultimatly, This is johns baby, and he has done wonders with it! I give him kudos for that...But its sometimes to cult like...

"I think unlike me, he is smart enough not to come on here and get abused for his point of view...something I am all to use to.." you seem to thrive on it from time to time. :)

the rest of your speech sounds like a generalization that is taken a bit too serious, lighten up. Take what you can from a fishing website and contribute what you can, it's supposed to be about fishing not confrontational.
If you can fix the site, go for it, we all know who owns it.

I don't even know why I responded to this.
:wall:



Nope, I havent posted in months, Nothing I can fix..I enjoy coming here from time to time but it always ends up in trouble....Hey your a "mod" right? you fix it

Is this really #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& posting??????????????

Wintertime drama.

This stuff is getting old. Who cares how many books someone's written, how many hours on the water, how many fish they caught in the last 37,000 years. In the end it's all chest beating cuz there is always someone out there that's done more that doesn't blab about it online.

This crap drags the site down. Take it offline and quit the friggin soap opera.

I think he is close to doing so:D

One thing is for sure Jim is a lot sharper with the pen than I...I hope he does come on but, be carefull what you ask for...Jim holds no punches...But thats what I respect about him ! But with 800 mods stacked against certain people, I think jim may not be allowed his freedom of speach, you think I am bad...oh man I hope jim signs up!


#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, you say you dont "want him to get what you get" but yet youve just set him up for disaster with that comment. You want honesty there it is.

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, you say you dont "want him to get what you get" but yet youve just set him up for disaster with that comment. You want honesty there it is.

Oh I see, your a mod also...No Jim has seen it for himself...I said he reads this stuff all the time...anyway, go ahead use your power an yank the post..its going no place anyway

This is your chance to yank a thread? you should enjoy this...wasnt it you in that little secret room that said a few years ago...."I never liked the guy anyway" A whole thread about how terrible the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& was? talk about backstabing and having no nuts...how lame was that

Oh I see, your a mod also...No Jim has seen it for himself...I said he reads this stuff all the time...anyway, go ahead use your power an yank the post..its going no place anyway


Yes, thats correct. Thanks for the fair shake.

ohh poor #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&! i don't deserve any of this! woe is me! :crying: :doh:

ohh poor #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&! i don't deserve any of this! woe is me! :crying: :doh:

Give me a break wiil ya, I just call it as I see it thats all...your all Robots with ZERO BALLS

It seems to me that the mod were chosen because most of them are level headed, or in the begining some volunteered because John could not be on here 24/7. He nneded help and we offered. If you think you can do a better job, then I for one would welcome you as a mod. As far as a super secret skull society, that was ,meant as a place for senior members to trade info on stuff not related to the site, and get a place to make posts that did'nt become hand grenade targets. It got out of control, and off the beaten path and it was closed. I believed John and the board moved on from that. In the words of a championship coach " It's time to focus on the next game" ...:thanks:

Bill, I can see you standing up for your friend. I can even agree that you are entitled to your opinion no matter how whacked or skewed it may be. I guess in my opinion you must be privelidged to some info from your brother in law that he must have used to choose carefully his choice of mods. Either that or you determined your opinion by reading the site and think that we censor the site. :hs:
I hangout in the plug forum mostly because I am afraid to touch those slimy eel things. I'll go back there now where there is no bait.

anyway, good luck with your upcoming operation, take it easy and stay away from contraversy for your heaths sake.

zero balls huh???

Give me a break wiil ya, I just call it as I see it thats all...your all Robots with ZERO BALLS

:claps: classic #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& quote

This is ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Squid kids Dad;556492]zero balls huh???[/QUOTE

no name calling, please

Now thats funny..

:love: can ya feel it ???????? :love:

:love: can ya feel it ???????? :love:

wait until February :hihi:

Wintertime drama.

This stuff is getting old. Who cares how many books someone's written, how many hours on the water, how many fish they caught in the last 37,000 years. In the end it's all chest beating cuz there is always someone out there that's done more that doesn't blab about it online.

This crap drags the site down. Take it offline and quit the friggin soap opera.

Damn grownups are always ruining the fun.

Bill, you really don't get why people are picked as mods here do you? You think they are picked because they share "they conform to a certain ideology almost in my mind like a cult setting, if you think "outside" certain parameters or have just a slightly shaded view of things you are not fit to be a mod....So thats what I think, there are people here who have been on since day one and before that."

Are you serious? Are you that out of touch with other people that you believe that? In the smallest possible chance that you can read what I'm about to write, I'll offer you WHY these people stepped up and pitch in around here. These people are level headed, smart, and people people. They get to come on here and try to be LEVEL-HEADED and be FAIR. To do thankless CRAP and far more often than necessary, get called out by people that are not fair and level headed enough. They don't start crap for sport, they don't play the "posse" thing, they don't plat favorites, they try to foster a smooth running and FAIR community. Well, fair and level headed instead of "Ban 'em if they can't take a joke" Vic. Who should be a moderator here? Who is your choice?

I think you owe those people a sincere apology. I think you are either doing this for sport / grins and giggles or you are incapable of objectively looking beyond a narrow or self centric field of view. After all, it is never your fault and it is always someone else that is the problem.

This is it. Final chance. Your call.

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, you say you dont "want him to get what you get" but yet youve just set him up for disaster with that comment. You want honesty there it is.

WTF is a mod? NFC

I'm in a good place so I will stay out of this.:hihi:

WTF is a mod? NFC

A "mod" is a moderator, someone who has the ability to edit or delete poor content as well as someone that may guide a thread back on the tracks when it starts to derail.

I'm in a good place so I will stay out of this.:hihi: No, you should stay out of this. Fuel or kindling is not required nor requested here by anyone.

This thread is not for a pig pile or pi$$ing contest.

Thank you

A "mod" is a moderator, someone who has the ability to edit or delete poor content as well as someone that may guide a thread back on the tracks when it starts to derail.

No, you should stay out of this. Fuel or kindling is not required nor requested here by anyone.

This thread is not for a pig pile or pi$$ing contest.

Thank you

Easy Boss, I was just trying to lighten things up. Getting involved in this thread is not on my agenda.

[QUOTE=JohnR;556570]A "mod" is a moderator, someone who has the ability to edit or delete poor content as well as someone that may guide a thread back on the tracks when it starts to derail.




He John,
I want to sign up to be a mod on the "sports forum" :grins:

[quote=JohnR;556570]A "mod" is a moderator, someone who has the ability to edit or delete poor content as well as someone that may guide a thread back on the tracks when it starts to derail.




He John,
I want to sign up to be a mod on the "sports forum" :grins:

Only if they let you on BoltTalk.com

Steve - what I don't want is a pissing contest on this thread or anyone trying to push a fight. I said my piece, he answers (or doesn't) and this gets decided.

WTF is a mod? NFC

It's a guy with a Prince Valiant haircut, who wears a pinstriped suit featuring a double breasted jacket and bell bottom pants, wearing a hot pink shirt and a paisley tie, who says "groovy" a lot. :hidin:

deja vu

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Originally Posted by striperman36
WTF is a mod? NFC

It's a guy with a Prince Valiant haircut, who wears a pinstriped suit featuring a double breasted jacket and bell bottom pants, wearing a hot pink shirt and a paisley tie, who says "groovy" a lot.


If you also drove a GS scooter and fought with Rockers in Brighton beach in 1964 that would seal it :)