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Hooper
02-15-2008, 12:11 PM
If a vessel is documented rather than registered with the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, how does sales tax get collected?

big jay
02-15-2008, 05:28 PM
no sales tax if she's documented.

got an announcement to make?

keeperreaper
02-15-2008, 05:43 PM
Is there a new boat in your fleet?:fishin:

Hooper
02-15-2008, 06:07 PM
no sales tax if she's documented.
got an announcement to make?


No Sales Tax?!?!?!?:jump:

As a matter of fact.....

Raider Ronnie
02-15-2008, 06:16 PM
Congrats Hooper.
Beautiful boat !!!
I've looked at that on Yachtworld Many times.
I saw it has said Sale pending!
I want a ride!!!

keeperreaper
02-15-2008, 06:22 PM
Absolutely beautiful; gordo you hit a home run with that. So when are we going to put some fish on that deck?

Bronko
02-15-2008, 06:58 PM
Hooper that thing is pimp! I love those BHM hulls. You are gonna have a great time in that boat. Congrats!:drool:

keeperreaper
02-15-2008, 07:00 PM
I'm jealous.

big jay
02-15-2008, 07:25 PM
Congrats Gordo!
My dad told me what you had in the works, I've seen her on-line too - gorgeous boat. Good luck with her.

I've got stern control envy.

fishsmith
02-15-2008, 07:26 PM
:drool: congrats she's a beauty

Raider Ronnie
02-15-2008, 07:49 PM
I'm jealous.


ME TOO !!!

keeperreaper
02-15-2008, 08:23 PM
Gordon,
What is the fuel burn on that work of art?

Raider Ronnie
02-15-2008, 08:34 PM
I know that exact set up with the 315 Yanmar @ 18-20 cruise is about 7 gals per hr.
I'll guess just a bit more .

fish4striper
02-15-2008, 08:48 PM
sweet , gl with her

Hooper
02-15-2008, 09:00 PM
Thanks guys, I was told that a 17 kt cruise is 7 gph, but, we'll see...

beamie
02-16-2008, 12:24 PM
I'm jealous.

ME THREE! Nice Hooper , real nice. Best of luck!!!!!

Team Rock On
02-16-2008, 05:35 PM
If you register it in MA you will be required to pay sales/use tax. There is an exemption form on this site. If you register it as a commercial fishing boat there is an exemption. http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=dorterminal&L=3&L0=Home&L1=Individuals+and+Families&L2=Programs+%26+Services&sid=Ador&b=terminalcontent&f=dor_personal_st_6&csid=Ador

Hooper
02-16-2008, 05:45 PM
If you register it in MA you will be required to pay sales/use tax. There is an exemption form on this site. If you register it as a commercial fishing boat there is an exemption. http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=dorterminal&L=3&L0=Home&L1=Individuals+and+Families&L2=Programs+%26+Services&sid=Ador&b=terminalcontent&f=dor_personal_st_6&csid=Ador


Interesting, I wonder if my NMFS 300# cod permit would past muster...

keeperreaper
02-16-2008, 05:46 PM
Its worth a shot.

Team Rock On
02-16-2008, 06:00 PM
You have to fill out a form that states, under the penalties of perjury, that the boat will be used for commercial fishing only. I think you have to register it as a commercial vessel , and of course insure it commercially too. If you do document it, you will be required to pay a "use" tax of 5%(I screwed up my last post). This happened to us about 5 years ago when we bought a documented boat with no title from a MA resident . They wouldn't give us a title until they could locate the past owner and get the use tax he never paid.

ProfessorM
02-16-2008, 07:11 PM
Beautiful boat. I am not familiar with it. What are the specifics if you don't mind, like size, manufacturer, etc.

GattaFish
02-16-2008, 07:20 PM
Sweet boat,,,,,

Hooper
02-16-2008, 08:06 PM
Beautiful boat. I am not familiar with it. What are the specifics if you don't mind, like size, manufacturer, etc.

Prof. M-

Thank you....

It's a 28' Seaworthy. The hull was originally a BHM 28 but it's my understanding that at some point the mold was bought by a fellow, Steve Law who now builds them under this new name in Arundel, Maine if I am not mistaken.

Most of them seem to get a Yanmar 315 which seems to be the perfect match for this hull, 18 kt cruise is about right. This one has a 63 series 370hp Volvo, I was told the original owner wanted a bigger engine...

They are now being marketed by NE Yachts and they seem to be doing a good job promoting them. But, you have to want a downeast boat. It's not gonna run at 30 kts, It's a single engine. They handle best running 18 or so. Not for everyone, but they are sure great to fish this area.

ProfessorM
02-16-2008, 09:32 PM
Thank you. Great lines. Wish you the best with it.

macojoe
02-17-2008, 04:18 AM
Awsome boat Hooper!! Congrats! And like the rest I wish I wish!!:drool:

kippy
02-18-2008, 08:03 AM
Great boat Gordon, best of luck with it!

MakoMike
02-18-2008, 08:58 AM
Congrats! May states ( RI and NY among them) require a documented boat to be registered wit the state. Different reg than what is required of undocumented boats and lesser fees. Then they get you for the sales tax when you go to register the boat.

Hooper
02-18-2008, 09:09 AM
Congrats! May states ( RI and NY among them) require a documented boat to be registered wit the state. Different reg than what is required of undocumented boats and lesser fees. Then they get you for the sales tax when you go to register the boat.

My optimism wanes..... what can you do, death and taxes:err:

CaptMike
02-18-2008, 12:04 PM
Great lookin boat, best of luck with her. Maybe I missed this but does anyone know where o go or what department to conact to get a vessel documented, in Massachusetts? I've always wanted to do that with one of my boats.

Hooper
02-18-2008, 02:28 PM
Great lookin boat, best of luck with her. Maybe I missed this but does anyone know where o go or what department to conact to get a vessel documented, in Massachusetts? I've always wanted to do that with one of my boats.


I haven't started getting the ball rolling yet Mike, but I think this site explains it all:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/vdoc/nvdc.htm

keeperreaper
02-18-2008, 02:34 PM
who gets the first ride out east?

MakoMike
02-18-2008, 06:05 PM
Maybe I missed this but does anyone know where o go or what department to conact to get a vessel documented, in Massachusetts? I've always wanted to do that with one of my boats.

Coast Guard documentation office. They have a website with the forms, the office IIRC is in VA.

Hooper
02-19-2008, 02:20 PM
who gets the first ride out east?

LOL!

My wife! On a calm, sunny day. To look at the seals, eat lunch, sight see, go to the islands... I can't ever forget, above all, keep the Admiral happy!:laugha: