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ThrowingTimber 03-17-2008, 01:06 PM from toyotas website:
March 07, 2008
Living Up to Our Commitment
Rust, as they say, never sleeps. It certainly never sleeps in the states where road salt is in heavy use, and we’ve recently become aware of additional evidence of that fact.
We’ve received reports that on a small number of model-year 1995 to 2000 Tacomas, excessive corrosion of the frame has caused perforation of the metal. The reason for this, it appears, is that the frames of some of the 813,000 vehicles built during this time-frame may not have adequate corrosion protection.
As a result, when they’re exposed to severe environmental conditions, especially in states where salt is used for the de-icing of roads, these frames may develop corrosion that goes beyond the normal surface rust that’s commonly found on metal after years of exposure – and in this case, these trucks are from eight to 13 years old.
Because of our oft-stated commitment to standing behind our products, we’re extending the rust-perforation warranty covering these trucks for a period of 15 years from each vehicle’s original date of purchase, with no mileage limitation, for corrosion damage that results in perforation of the vehicle’s frame material. Owners of these Tacomas need not be the original owners. Even if you bought your Tacoma second- or third-hand, it’s covered by this extended warranty.
Here’s how this will work: Starting in the middle of March and continuing over a period of time, owners of 1995-2000 Tacomas will be sent letters informing them about this issue. If you find rust perforation on your vehicle's frame, have your truck inspected by a Toyota dealer.
If frame corrosion damage is confirmed by an inspection at a Toyota dealership, at Toyota's option, we will either repair the vehicle or repurchase it. No matter the vehicle’s actual condition, it will be valued as a vehicle in excellent condition. If the inspection reveals no rust perforation, the 15-year warranty will remain in force.
This is worth underscoring: This is not a recall. Rather, it’s an example of our commitment to the durability of our products and to our owners. These are older trucks and rust is a fact of life, especially where road salt is used, but that’s not what’s important. What’s important is that we take care of our owners. We just thought you should know that.
- Mike Michels, Corporate Communications
ThrowingTimber 03-17-2008, 01:08 PM from a toyota blog, not the corp. just enthusiasts:
If your in the New England area CONTACT this guy! It sounds like a great time to get a New Tundra.
you may be the owner of a 1995 through 2000 model year Toyota Tacoma that may be eligible for a unique buy-back program fromToyota due to corrosion perforation of the frame in some vehicles. Acton Toyota has established a TOLL-FREE 800 number and a Customer Relations
Specialist to assist Tacoma owners affected by this customer support program. In the event that your vehicle is affected, you may be eligible to
receive the following benefits from Toyota Motor Sales in the event of repurchase
*Toyota will repurchase your Tacoma at 1.5 times the Kelley Blue Book (http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/##)
Suggested Retail Value (excellent condition)
* Toyota is offering each customer a complimentary loaner vehicle
while you are considering alternative transportation options
* Toyota is offering a $1,000 owner loyalty rebate for customers who
purchase a replacement Tacoma or Tundra
* Toyota is offering a $500 owner loyalty rebate for customers who
purchase a replacement of any other new Toyota (http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/##) (Scion excluded) or Toyota Certified Used Vehicle
* Any applicable rebates, purchase incentives, and special financing
offers in effect would be in addition to the special offers listed above
Tacoma owners should call our TOLL-FREE number, 800-229-6023, and speakwith Mark Bentley to schedule an inspection of their 1995 - 2000 MY Tacoma to determine if it qualifies for repurchase under this program. In the event that your vehicle has perforation of the frame due to rust corrosion, we will assist you with a Toyota repurchase. Under the terms of this customer support program, Toyota will also be offering a warranty extension for a period of 15 years with no mileage limitation from the vehicle's in-service date for this specific condition.
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That stuff above should be helpful if youve got that truck and are looking at something new or even if you have the truck and intend to keep it, they're basically going to repair the frame and extend the frame warranty 15yrs from the date they run the repairs :bgi:
SCORE! I called the place I got my taco at and they wanted me to come right in to inspect the frame :)
Tattoo 03-17-2008, 01:30 PM Great!
My rear bumper essentailly rotted off and was hanging buy the license plate wire. I welded a couple of plates on to what was left of the frame just to put the bumper back on. Looking closer at the frame it's pretty much swiss cheese and borderline unsafe to drive.
Looks like its time for a new 'Yota.
MVbluefish 03-17-2008, 02:32 PM I have a 2000 Tacoma, where on the frame is it prone to rot?
ThrowingTimber 03-17-2008, 03:02 PM basically anything that perforates the frame is what they are addressing.
I have an appt. tonight with toyota of attleboro, we'll see how I make out if anything they'll redo the frame if its real bad, I may have to pick up a new taco :( But they cover a decent portion I guess. I gotta stop at home and scrape off the beach sticker :)
animal 03-17-2008, 03:26 PM Yeah,and maybe vacuum out the sand.:jester:
I may have to pick up a new taco .....
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/gallery/data/2/medium/beach.jpg
ThrowingTimber 03-17-2008, 03:41 PM I'd need a limp wrist to drive that zac:hihi:
fishsmith 03-17-2008, 03:41 PM what mileage does the FJ get? my guess is 18 tops.
I'd need a limp wrist to drive that zac:hihi:
no way.... those things are sick....
http://www.ajeepthing.com/images/2007-fj-cruiser.jpg
http://www.solidsmack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/millen-fj-02.jpg
http://www.cardata.com/images/2008_new_cars/Toyota/2008_Toyota_FJ_Cruiser_titanium.jpg
holy poop!!! guess I better look into this!
cheferson 03-17-2008, 07:16 PM I have an appt. tonight with toyota of attleboro, we'll see how I make out if anything they'll redo the frame if its real bad,
How did it go?
ThrowingTimber 03-17-2008, 08:09 PM Service manager is giving me a call with the outcome/figures in the morning.
toyota has such a demand for pre owned toacos that they are beggig for used cars. I get asked all the time if I will sell mine. there is 5 times the demand for a used taco over a new one so this is toyota's attemp at getting a flood of preowned tacomas to sell and at the same time an opertunity to sell their glut of new tacomas..
If your frame is not rusted, you can bet they will still want to take your tacoma off your hands and then offer you a deal on a new one, however, if your frame is totally rusted out then this is a great opertunity.
1dozenraw 03-18-2008, 07:17 AM Service manager is giving me a call with the outcome/figures in the morning.
Thanks TT... I may take mine in.. for sure. Maybe time to get 4x4... but I'm wicked cheap.
Skitterpop 03-18-2008, 07:17 AM Sounds good but Nebe is on the ball. In the sales think tank they came up with this scenario. If you can get as much out of them as to fixing frame and not buying new you`ll be ahead of their game.
Finatic 03-18-2008, 07:28 AM Thanks TT... I may take mine in.. for sure. Maybe time to get 4x4... but I'm wicked cheap.
I think there may be a sailboat joke in here somewhere............:hihi:
Sounds good but Nebe is on the ball. In the sales think tank they came up with this scenario. If you can get as much out of them as to fixing frame and not buying new you`ll be ahead of their game.
dont listen to Nebe.. he is a crack pot. :smokin:
ThrowingTimber 03-18-2008, 03:36 PM nope totally makes sense eben. no way im dropping 20-34k into a new truck. 1.5 x's kbb or not. a tune up set of wheels and Im good to go for a few more miles. 250k-300k block will make it no problem.
ThrowingTimber 03-18-2008, 03:43 PM Sounds good but Nebe is on the ball. In the sales think tank they came up with this scenario. If you can get as much out of them as to fixing frame and not buying new you`ll be ahead of their game.
theyre not going to repair anything, but if your engine and frame are toast. Nows the time :buds:
Backbeach Jake 03-18-2008, 04:47 PM What other product would be backed up like this? Van Staal? This is unbelievable service. Detroit-take notice, this is why you're in the crapper. I do a lot of Toyota dealership work, I think that Toyota might be the best deal out there.
Tattoo 03-19-2008, 06:09 AM Timber - What did the dealer say about your 'Yota?
Bringing mine in today and already know that the frame is rotted to hell. Just trying to prepare for the 45 minute sales pitch.
Although I do need a new truck, it's a pain in the arse having to go switch vehicles with the wife when I have to pick up the kids.
MVbluefish 03-19-2008, 08:53 AM 150% of NADA retail is so good for a return, if your even considering selling yours for new this has to be considered a great opportunity. I'm taking mine in to see if I can cash in on this deal.
Swimmer 03-19-2008, 10:34 AM This sounds andreads like a sales ploy.
JohnR 03-19-2008, 11:06 AM 150% of NADA retail is so good for a return, if your even considering selling yours for new this has to be considered a great opportunity. I'm taking mine in to see if I can cash in on this deal.
150% of NADA or (KBB) Retail is actually far better than 150% of the book dealers use for appraising a car: Galves . (IF they are giving you a set number for your vehicle that you can apply towards the negotiated price of a new vehicle. If it is against list then they are not doing you many favors). It is possible that the numbers you would see would be close to or even over twice the wholesale "Actual Cash Value" you would receive on a trade in. So if you are thinking about it, this could be a good time. If you wait to long and all the sudden there is a glut of frame repaired older Tacomas out there that KBB value that they base those numbers on will in fact fall and your 1.5 multiplier would be based on a smaller number - thus less overall savings...
BTW - I'd do the FJ it had more tow rating...
ThrowingTimber 03-19-2008, 11:12 AM Timber - What did the dealer say about your 'Yota?
Bringing mine in today and already know that the frame is rotted to hell. Just trying to prepare for the 45 minute sales pitch.
Although I do need a new truck, it's a pain in the arse having to go switch vehicles with the wife when I have to pick up the kids.
they test your frame (hammer)
Take the info etc. I let them know I prefer the repair option, I dont want to jump into a new 20-30 truck hell nah! My taco is 4cyl I can take that thing to 250k no problem.
Service manager called yesterday and offered me 1.5 x's kbb value at excellent condition for the truck if I wanted to sell it to them + 1k if I buy a another taco or tundra. I let them know I was more interested in the repair option. They've offered me a temp. vehicle while everything is sorted out. Service guy said if theres anything wrong with the vehicle they dont want me driving around in it, I'm calling them after work tonight.
I'm stressing to them I want the repairs made etc. The company handling this for toyota is named isg, Once they contact me I guess I'll get the info on the repair option. And how that will go. they arent being pushy/ sales at all I told them I wanted the repair option and we're going down that road. They did mention that if I wanted to jump into a new/used truck they'd be VERY happy to help me out
so far 1.5x's kbb +1k and any other current offers or incentives for a new/used taco or tundra
or
Getting the repairs done for the bubble.
I'm shooting for the bubble. :jump:
Once I hear the repair options etc.. I'll see which is more practical. If going with something new/used I'd want to even swap as much as possible. I want to keep my truck and have it repaired, but at the same time if i can swap into something used with less mileage at an even or as close to even as possible swap and its a bigger truck I may go with that. A friends a service manager at a dif. yota shop going to make a call and see what hes got on his lot just in case :jump:
Tattoo 03-19-2008, 11:27 AM I hear you on not wanting a car payment. I've got zero bills besides a mortgage and would like to keep it that way, unfortunatly with two kids, the current 'Yota is useless if I have to do anything with them.
I've checked some Toyota dealer sites and BOCH has by far the best prices on used rides. If I end up with a 2006 - 2007 4x4 Access Cab for $15 K or so, with the buy back I'd be happy.
I bought the current 'Yota for $10K 9 years ago and it's still going strong ( rotting to hell ) so I really can't complain. I got my money's worth.
ThrowingTimber 03-19-2008, 02:24 PM Dude at work has a 2k yota, theyre giving him like 14-15k for. thats a '08 taco a half price :humpty:
tobias 03-19-2008, 03:02 PM How about T100's?
Tattoo 03-20-2008, 04:57 AM I show up at 3:55pm for a 4:00pm appt.
Drive the truck in and they have no idea why I am there. I called yesterday to have my frame checked. Check for what? For rust. Oh OK. Technician walks over and looks, Yeah it's rusted. OK, we will have to have corporate come down and take a look at it. Why? Because thats what we have to do. Well what happens now? Corporate has to come down and look at it. Look at what the rust? Yes. Well when do they "come down" Oh, once a month. OK when are they coming. We don't know.
Now I'm getting aggrivated. Look, I called you guys yesterday to make an appt. and to talk to someone about this. I called so I wouldnt have to come here and the come back again like a ping pong ball and waste my time. We dont want to waste your time either, thats why your here.
I got in the truck and drove away. Don't have anything done at the Toyota dealer on Aquidneck Island. MORONS!
bloocrab 03-20-2008, 07:18 AM I thought the Island Yota closed down ....or did it move to another location ?
I think it's time you gut a new one anyway - :musc:
Hooper 03-20-2008, 11:26 AM I loved my 98 Tacoma, Loved it. But I bought a Chevy Silverado to tow the bigger boat, big mistake. Once the Chevy dies, I'm going back to Toyota.
BigBo 03-20-2008, 11:48 AM I guess I have a ways to go. Very happy with mine though.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/bospa/taco1.jpg
chris L 03-20-2008, 01:05 PM before calling any stealership call toy corporate at 1-800-331-4331 . they will open a ticket and ask them to call your stealership your taking the truck to . When you arive the stealership will know why your there and it should lessen the hassle . I do this anytime I have an issue with a yota . I just did it for a TSB on my 06 taco 3 weeks ago . there were no hassles and they knew I had called corporate and they got the OK from them .
bloocrab 03-20-2008, 07:09 PM :topic:.....
Sorry, but BigBo - ??? - How do you keep the rims looking SO sweet. What's your break-dust cleaner called ... besides elbow grease. ???
I have a 2003 - LOVE IT.
BigBo 03-20-2008, 07:22 PM Mostly elbow grease coupled with Eagle1 Brake and Wheel cleaner. Scrubbed with a white (non-scratching) Scotchbrite pad
It's an '04 btw.
Raider Ronnie 04-11-2008, 06:51 PM Anyone here with one in the years of the frame problem done anything ???
I found out today that the Dana Co (they make lots of axles and transmissions for trucks) was the manufacturer of those frames.
Just as I suspected.
A GREAT Japan product, but lots manufactured and assembled by the useless (in my opinion) American UAW work force !
ThrowingTimber 04-11-2008, 07:01 PM Tattoo did well with his deal I think after what they gave him he got a newer truck at like half price.
I basically just have to go down and pick one out, been too busy with work though tomorrow afternoon looks good though :lama:
Brother Brian 04-11-2008, 07:27 PM My buddy just took his in and they wouldn't let him drive it out. Gave him 12.5K for a 98 and a loaner car.
Raider Ronnie 04-11-2008, 07:32 PM My buddy just took his in and they wouldn't let him drive it out. Gave him 12.5K for a 98 and a loaner car.
And we wonder why our American economy is in the %$%$%$%$ter, the $ is worth an all time low, and the big 3 american auto makers have been loosing millions every 1/4 !!!
Squid kids Dad 04-11-2008, 07:48 PM And we wonder why our American economy is in the %$%$%$%$ter, the $ is worth an all time low, and the big 3 american auto makers have been loosing millions every 1/4 !!!
Ronnie you are so right..........:smash:
My buddy just took his in and they wouldn't let him drive it out. Gave him 12.5K for a 98 and a loaner car.
same thing here.. a friend drove his truck inn to be cheked out and tyota confiscated it.
I am totally suspicious of this but maybe I am a curmudgeon
Raider Ronnie 04-11-2008, 08:46 PM Ronnie, Dana should have stuck to making axles and transfer cases, you are right. They also manufacture the truck frames for General Motors... was just on Dana Holding company's website.... Dana is in chapter 11 bankruptcy right now... this must be costing Toyota some serious coin... and so far I can find absolutely nothing about frame design or quality changes.......
As the saying has gone for years in the industry I work in,
American auto makers build vehicles to last as long as the typical loan (5 years) on average.
Then the start to fall apart, forcing americans to buy new again. (keep them and their $$$ coming back)
That worked for my grandfathers generation (Any american who served in WW2) who wouldn't buy or even drive a car made in Japan.
Those days are long gone !
fishonnelsons 04-12-2008, 06:07 AM JB, older, local chef who also mates on a charter boat, drove to Orleans to get an oil change, knew nothing about this at all. Manager comes out to him, sits down next to him, and gives him the news - "confiscated" - too bad to fix, gave him a loaner until they figure out his options.
Really sad part is JB is not at all fluid with the cash, so even new at half-price is not an option. They are looking to get an older, comparable model in A1 shape though.
HOCKEYCOACH 04-12-2008, 07:05 AM Rich that sucs, that they took JB's ride. My son has my old Yota '97 took to Orleans they are buying it back but gave him the option to drive it or take the rental. I'm still not sure that they can make you give up the truck.
1dozenraw 04-12-2008, 07:36 AM JB, older, local chef who also mates on a charter boat, drove to Orleans to get an oil change, knew nothing about this at all. Manager comes out to him, sits down next to him, and gives him the news - "confiscated" - too bad to fix, gave him a loaner until they figure out his options.
Really sad part is JB is not at all fluid with the cash, so even new at half-price is not an option. They are looking to get an older, comparable model in A1 shape though.
This would be me if I drive in and they "take" my 2000. Not sure what to do at this point because I like my ride and it has 125K on it and the frame looks fine... it will probably last another 120K.
On a bit different note... I bought two 1988 Toyotas with rusty beds and around 130K on them. Paid $1000 each and drove both for several years and until they had well over 250K on them and sold them for around $500. Only standard repairs and had to replace the beds. The cabs were fine. Later was told that all the Toyotas from that year were shipped here without the beds and the beds were made here and installed here. Hmmmm.
Meanwhile, what to do? I was down near the west wall two days ago and a guy was out at his mailbox. He flagged me down, asked what year my truck was and told me he "works closely" with Toyota and that I should bring the truck in.
Is there a time limit on how long this deal is available? What's the best way to get in the process?
likwid 04-12-2008, 07:44 PM What other product would be backed up like this? Van Staal? This is unbelievable service. Detroit-take notice, this is why you're in the crapper. I do a lot of Toyota dealership work, I think that Toyota might be the best deal out there.
You won't DIE if your van staal fails.
Dumb comparison.
RIROCKHOUND 04-12-2008, 07:48 PM Glad I have an 02
I am kind of on the fence on this. We talked about replacing the hubby's 4runner with 125K(in another year or so) with the Tundra. I have a 98 Tacoma with 160K. We werent finacially ready for the Tundra payment just yet. So my Dilemma is do we take advantage of a POSSIBLY great trade in on the truck now even though a new payment would be tight right now?
AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! I would hate to pass it up knowing this might be the best bet.....timing sucks though!
DONT drag your feet like I did on this. Hubby just went to take the winter tires off and put the summer ones on....frame is actually split above the rear tire....he is still checking it out now.
I am sick to my stomach that I was driving it that way......
:shocked: Bringing it down tommorrow.....
We went and looked at a used 07 Tundra for the hubby and I will inherit his 4-Runner. We had been wanting to do this but not anytime soon......bad timing but hopefully I will get a decent amount for the Taco and that will help ease the new payment sting a little....
I just bought an 08' tacoma.
Hope this is not an ongoing issue.
Love my new ride though !!!!!!:humpty:
macojoe 04-20-2008, 11:03 PM My buddy pete is getting 9K for his 1997!!! What a deal!
Gunpowder 04-20-2008, 11:50 PM You won't DIE if your van staal fails.
Dumb comparison.
i thought it was a humorous analogy... but i don't want to die either :hihi:
well took it in last night after work and left with a loaner free of charge for 30 days or until the check comes from Toyota. Not sure what I will be getting for it yet. Backed out of the Tundra deal because we woke up and realized the payment would have killed us.
Pretty cool with the loaner deal though....its a Yaris and not my style but at least I can get to work and back without stressing about it....
I cried when they took my ride away ....I am gonna miss her....(but not situation)
Ake G 04-24-2008, 06:20 PM Going to be losing my '99 Tacoma 4wd very soon...took it in this morning and dealer said it had "multiple frame perforations...." and I can expect a call from Toyota to settle($) in a few days.
Dealership did'nt seemed too concerned, clearly this is now a corporate matter ....they did let me drive it back home. They also offered me a loaner...I have other transport so I declined.
Thanks for alerting me of this issue here...never got a letter or was aware of this from local news.
macojoe 04-24-2008, 06:24 PM My buddy just got told he got the news today they are going to give him $11,200 for his 1997.
My buddy just got told he got the news today they are going to give him $11,200 for his 1997.
wow
macojoe 04-24-2008, 06:54 PM Thats what I said!! He payed $9k for it 4 years ago, he getting more then what he paid for it.
Thats what I said!! He payed $9k for it 4 years ago, he getting more then what he paid for it.
I paid 9 k for my taco 4 years ago as well.. My truck is gold though.. runs great, its payed for.. zero body rust.. I peeked at the frame- it looked fine to me, but that kind of return is tempting.
Tattoo 04-25-2008, 04:43 AM I had a '97 with 157K miles on it, and the truck was used and abused.
I bought the truck in '99 for $10,700 and Toyota gave me $9200 in trade for it.
I walked away with a 2007 V6 Access Cab with 11K miles for $14K!!:happy:
Even if you don't want to get another vehicle, you might want to really think about it. Chances are inspection stations will be well aware of this situation and fail inspections because of it. Then you have a vehicle thats essentialy worthless and you have to sink a few grand into to resolve the frame rot issue.
1dozenraw 04-25-2008, 04:50 AM Is there a dead-line? I'd like to keep mine until mowing season is over, then I can take my time looking for a replacement. I'd also like to drive it back home and remove the heavy tow bumper I had made and the bed liner. I guess I'll just have to call and find out the details. I'd do it in a hearbeat if I knew they could locate me another 4 cylinder Tacoma, maybe pre 1995 or a 2001-2. I don't want the payments on a new truck... no way.
ThrowingTimber 04-25-2008, 09:14 AM After you receive the offer and you've negotiated the price on a new yota. Remind them that they should offer you the 1,000.00 toyota customer loyalty bonus :btu:
Got my offer already driving a 2008 v8 tundra 4dr fully loaded unlimited mileage on their dime until I find something:happy:Thing rides like a towncar it had 21 miles when they gave it to me
Sluggoslinger 04-25-2008, 03:54 PM Too bad this didn't cover the 4runner, my 99 is a rust bucket, needs new breaks and just had a flat tire... she's ready for a replacement
[QUOTE=1dozenraw;585034]Is there a dead-line?QUOTE]
I am not 100% positive on this but I thought I heard something about they were extending the warr. on the frame to 15 years so I would imagine you still have some time.
I never received a letter either...glad I heard it here. Sorry I didnt look at it myself a month ago and I had been riding on it the way it was. It was pretty bad. Especially knowing I did a lot of highway to VT & NH this winter with it and a load in the back.....:yak4:
Anyway I brought the truck in Monday and have not heard from Yota yet. Anyone know about how long they take to contact you?
All in all I like Toyota and will buy again. It is pretty amazing what they are doing for those effected. Between the buyback $$ and the free loaners (for a month!!) I would say thats pretty darn decent!
ThrowingTimber 04-27-2008, 10:00 AM jenn,
contact the company that is handleing that for toyota and let them you your deal and that youve yet to hear back. That'll light a fire under them 866-799-4948
cheferson 04-27-2008, 10:18 AM They are buying them at 1.5x excellent ,retail kelly blue book value, right??? Bringing mine in tomorrow!!!!:bounce:
ThrowingTimber 04-27-2008, 11:37 AM 1.5 kelly blue book in excellent condition. and if you buy from toyota remember to ask for 1000.00 toyota loyalty bonus. So it should work out to 1.5 times kelly blue book + 1k$.
If they find something wrong with your vehicle they'll give you one on their dime for 30 days unlimited mileage until you get your offer and new vehicle sorted out. You will not be obligated to the dealer you take your vehicle to in any way. So if they give you the rental etc for 30 days and a dealership in ct has the truck you want you dont have to buy from the dealer you took your truck into.
You bring your truck in they inspect it. They find something wrong, they give you the rental. You get an offer from toyota in the mail, they'll usually call you first and fill you in, you send them in a copy of your reg etc and they then mail you an offer letter. Once you sign and return th eoffer letter they appoint an agent to meet you where you dropped off your yota whatever dealership etc. At that time the agent presents you with your payoff check for the vehicle and you transfer ownership, thats your last chance to grab any cd's etc out of your vehicle. When they give you the check you sign the ownership transfer papers grab your plates etc..
The best I can figure out of this is that if you were in the position to trade in your vehicle youre going to get waaay more than you would in as a standard trade in value etc. 10-12k goes a good way towards the purchase of a new vehicle close to half off in some cases once you negotiate a price. Tne $ goes agood way towards a used certified vehicle also so you can basically jump from a 2k to a 2k5 - 2k4 for 3-6k depending. A final option would be to take your payoff money and buy something else outright through a private seller etc for less than your offer and bank the remainder of the dough. But with the personal seller you dont get the warrantees or certified used vehicles. Theres lots of options to this and you have to go with what works for ya :)
btw v8 4 door tundra rides like a lincoln towncar and waay more comfy. THing will pas anything but a gas station though..
cheferson 04-27-2008, 07:43 PM :smokin::humpty:excellent!! SHould be getting $7650(+1,000 if i buy from them) for a truck i paid $3200 for over a year ago!!:bounce:
MotoXcowboy 04-27-2008, 08:43 PM Yup, I am a mechanic at a Yota dealership. We have about 60 frame rot tacos in our lot now. Starting to lose parking space!
Vermonter 04-28-2008, 06:36 AM My buddy just got told he got the news today they are going to give him $11,200 for his 1997.
Everyone I know up this way(3-4 people at this point) have all been offered 11,000 or just over for their Tacomas.
Ake G 04-28-2008, 07:29 AM must be why Portsmouth encouraged me to drive mine back home...
Yup, I am a mechanic at a Yota dealership. We have about 60 frame rot tacos in our lot now. Starting to lose parking space!
MotoXcowboy 04-28-2008, 09:21 AM I doubt it. where i work if your frame fails you have to sign a waiver to take vehicle off the property. To much of a liability. If frames pass where I work, service manager tells customer frame is okay for now and to come back in a year to have re-inspected.
cheferson 04-28-2008, 04:58 PM Yup, I am a mechanic at a Yota dealership. We have about 60 frame rot tacos in our lot now. Starting to lose parking space!
That explains why its a month wait for an appointment there
macojoe 04-28-2008, 05:02 PM And hope you are not in the market for a new or used Tacoma cause the prices are going up and they are getting hard to find!!
Just got the call today $10,200 for my '98 single cab 4 cyc STD with no frills whatsoever....Not bad since I paid half that over 2 years ago but it seems I now cant replace it for less than what I am getting from yota.....go figure.....
And hope you are not in the market for a new or used Tacoma cause the prices are going up and they are getting hard to find!!
exactly my point.....:huh:
I loved my truck and everything (minus the frame of course) was in great shape....
macojoe 04-29-2008, 03:16 AM Yea Karl, but that 99 is part if the recall!! 95 to 2000
cheferson 04-29-2008, 06:55 PM :buds: $7650 for a 98 with 157000, no options, 4 bald tires, a rusted hood w/6 inch hole , roof is rusting out and leaking , and a cracked exhaust. That i paid 3k for 1.5 years ago!!!:cheers: Now i gotta figure out what the hell im gonna do. And $50 per a day torwards a rental truck till i get my check!!! CHA-CHING!!!!
JohnR 04-30-2008, 06:39 AM Add $4000 to that check and you can buy a fine, solid, full size truck, with a solid frame :hee: (mine)
cheferson 04-30-2008, 07:03 AM Add $4000 to that check and you can buy a fine, solid, full size truck, with a solid frame :hee: (mine)
Not with gas pushing $4, considering a getting a car.
JohnR 04-30-2008, 07:09 AM Not with gas pushing $4, considering a getting a car.
I am too, a car for work, and the truck for play...
:buds: $7650 for a 98 with 157000, no options, 4 bald tires, a rusted hood w/6 inch hole , roof is rusting out and leaking , and a cracked exhaust. That i paid 3k for 1.5 years ago!!!:cheers: Now i gotta figure out what the hell im gonna do. And $50 per a day torwards a rental truck till i get my check!!! CHA-CHING!!!!
Cheferson....I think you may have gotten a bum deal....I got completely FREE loaner with unlimited mileage until I get my check.... I would look into it....then again 50$ per day may cover the rental.... I dont know because I have never rented a car and couldnt tell you what it would cost if my life depended on it!!!!
1dozenraw 05-09-2008, 08:08 AM Just an update... mine (2000, 4x2, extra cab) passed. Said it had no problem. I did check and was told that I can bring it in each year until 2015 to be re-inspected and it will be bought back if the frame starts to go. I think I am glad not to have to find another truck. I have been watching for good used 4 cylinder Toyotas and a couple of other brands and there are not many out there that looked good and reasonably priced. So, all in all, I'm pleased and happy that I'm covered in the future.
fishsmith 05-09-2008, 08:12 AM 2 guys at work got this deal,
one had a 1999 4x4 V6 xtra cab w/220K miles and got just shy $12K,
another guy had a '99 p/u with 189K mi and got $9K.
both are getting new yota's for < $13K.
It's a tough deal to passup.
1dozenraw 05-09-2008, 08:21 AM Yeah... if I had any thoughts or desire to buy a new one, I'd be crying because it is a great opportunity. But, in my case, I have driven for 18 years and spent a total of $8000 on my trucks in that time. I use them for work and beat the crap out of them, so buying a new one makes zero sense. besides, I don't buy stuff that I have to make payments on.
But, I'm sure I could have pocketed a few grand if they had made the deal and my frame was bad. Oh well... I'm ok with it.
ThrowingTimber 05-09-2008, 11:21 AM found an 07 fj with 15k for mileage. Sweet price with the buy back it would be short dough. one problem only takes premium gas.
Found an 05 4 door taco same color as my old one fully loaded 15k for mileage full bumper to bumper til 100k on the odometer. Roadside assistance etc. frame is warranteed til 2020 crushed them on their price, financed not through them got a better rate on a short dough loan with no pre payment penalty :happy: I'm going to pull the trigger.
I guess theres a guy in maine who's turned in 32. Basically the way toyota has it setup is that as long as the vehicle is registered to you its fair game for buy back if it flunks inspection. Whats a reg cost? 40-80 bux? 2k for a beater. trade in for 9-12k. Dudes making excellent dough in his investment.... Thats pure genius in action right there...
Im pretty set on the 05 taco. so I made out with, driving my old taco free for 4 yrs. They gave me close to 3k more than I paid for my old taco when I initially purchased it. So I drove it for nothin' just gas maint. and insurance for 4 yrs. And I'm getting into a vehicle thats 5 yrs newer for short dough. Good deal :happy:
eastendlu 05-09-2008, 12:09 PM Congrats Vic ,now all you have to do is fillet a couple of bass on the tailgate to give it some mojo!:jump:
Redsoxticket 05-09-2008, 03:23 PM The difference in the price between premium vs regular gas is 22 cents or 6%. That translate to a loss of only 1.2miles per gallon if the estimated mpg is 20 on the fj.
So sad. Just picked up the check at the dealer tonite....drove out back to see if I could wave good by to the old girl and it was a hard sight to see.....well at least she had lots of company.....there had to be a hundred back there just waiting to be hauled away.....:hs:
macojoe 05-09-2008, 07:26 PM Sad thing is there are lots and lots of great parts right there!! someone is going to make a ton of cash!!
And I bet more then a few of the good ones will find there way on to the road some how
MotoXcowboy 05-09-2008, 07:34 PM the cats are taken off and gas tanks removed. the rest of the taco goes into a shredder and is chopped into tiny peices the size of a fist, motors and all.
Squid kids Dad 05-09-2008, 08:27 PM That is a shame...Many parts that could be recycled
Stroth 05-15-2008, 06:49 PM A buddy of mine has a buddy who is a toyota mechanic. According to the mechanic tundras are also included in this frame rot buy back.
Has anyone else heard the same thing?
I have got a 2000 tundra and if the deal is as good as I am hearing I might have to jump for it....
Thanks
got a call from Toyota the other night wanting to know how my experience went......I told them it went pretty smooth other than the fact that I was totally inconvenienced for nearly a month and how heartbroken I was to loose my truck that I loved so much, Also that my husband and I used to be a die hard Yota fans but I dont think I could buy another Toyota unless they did something major to rebuild my confidence in their product and that I did buy a Nissan to replace.....there was long pause and then the conversation ended shortly after.
TELL HIM TO TAKE IT TO A DIFFERENT DEALER!!!!
I looked under my 2002 Tacoma a week ago and the frame is significantly rotted. This is my 2nd toy, I had one from 1989 to right after 9/11 when I got this one. I have inspected the underside of the truck every time it is on a lift, and the last time was May, and since then the rot progressed so rapidly that 15" of the bottom of the frame in one area has come off, and I can see on the other side of the truck in about the same area is is ready to pop. Not a happy camper.
maddmatt 10-08-2009, 08:51 AM I looked under my 2002 Tacoma a week ago and the frame is significantly rotted. This is my 2nd toy, I had one from 1989 to right after 9/11 when I got this one. I have inspected the underside of the truck every time it is on a lift, and the last time was May, and since then the rot progressed so rapidly that 15" of the bottom of the frame in one area has come off, and I can see on the other side of the truck in about the same area is is ready to pop. Not a happy camper.
stop drivin in the water!!:smash:
just kiddin, sorry for your loss
maybe if you change colors the seals and pilgrims will stop following you:)
It's not a loss yet - I'll be putting in a call to Toyota and I'll bet that they'll make me a deal - I'm just gonna wait until the season is over.
A new color truck would be nice - I could hide from all the tourorists too. I'd bet that the seals would learn to recognize me quicker, though.
Salty, thanks for bringing this thread back to life.
Karl F 10-08-2009, 11:10 AM two of my custumers are getting ...New Frames... instead of a check... signifigant changes in their policy now...newer/cleaner trucks, will get repaired/replaced frames...
they finally agreed to take my bosses 98 taco, agter the rear end fell half out... that was in August... no check yet from corparate Toyota....mainly because truck was registered to a corporation, and now there is all kinds of paper work...and my boss has his lawyer involved now... he says now, he wish he took it to the welders instead... they keep after him to buy a new truck... he says show me my money for the old truck first.....and the dealer keeps passing the buck to corporate Toyota, who keeps asking how do we know that you own the truck... he has had to prove that he is the signifigant party, officer in the corporation..and still gets chain yanked...
Spoke to my salesman yesterday re: my 2002 Tacoma, he confirms what Karl said. He added that the problem is not limited to Tundra's (no s). He says that Toyota will replace the frame and pretty much anything attached to it, mainly the brake lines, gas tank, etc. I'm bringing it in to a dealership after the holiday, will report back in.
basswipe 07-09-2016, 12:33 PM A little update:
My '04 for was added to this recall in 2010.At the time no perforations in the frame were found and the underbody was done with a protective coating to satisfy that recall.This recall ended Dec.31 of that year.
Recently some serious rot was found.Most of the protective shrouds had completely rotted away,along with the emergency brake and other things.Brought the truck to the Toyota dealer today and a perforation(s) was found in the frame.We will now be getting a brand-new frame and shrouds for zip.
Apparently there's a warranty on the protective coating which extends this recall.If you had the under-coating done and now have a ton of rot it can't hurt to have a dealer inspect it
Liv2Fish 07-09-2016, 05:30 PM I made out like a bandit on this deal a few years ago with an 06? Tacoma. I stopped in to Falmouth Toyota to look at a Tundra. Dude looked under my Tacoma and half hour later I had a check in hand for $14,900.00. I paid $16k for the Tacoma with 32 K on it and drove it to 140k miles before the buy back. Owed nothing on it. Walked out with the Tundra for half price.
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saltyric 07-11-2016, 06:04 AM A buddy of mine has a buddy who is a toyota mechanic. According to the mechanic tundras are also included in this frame rot buy back.
Has anyone else heard the same thing?
I have got a 2000 tundra and if the deal is as good as I am hearing I might have to jump for it....
Thanks
Toyota replaced the frame of my 2005 tundra last summer. Gave me a brand new tacomma to use for three months.
SweetD 07-13-2016, 12:00 PM I made out like a bandit on this deal a few years ago with an 06? Tacoma. I stopped in to Falmouth Toyota to look at a Tundra. Dude looked under my Tacoma and half hour later I had a check in hand for $14,900.00. I paid $16k for the Tacoma with 32 K on it and drove it to 140k miles before the buy back. Owed nothing on it. Walked out with the Tundra for half price.
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I did the same exact thing, but I bought a brand new Tacoma with my $15k buyback check...best deal I've ever had! Did not have to use the money towards a new Toyota, but I seized the opportunity at the time!
fish4striper 07-13-2016, 12:31 PM Got a new frame for my 2001 Sequoia, control arms were frozen so couldn't do an alignment, free also. Tarbox did a great job.
buckman 07-13-2016, 01:12 PM Just had the frame replaced on my old five Tacoma that I just gave my daughter . 6 months and a lot of battling as they try to nickel and dime me to death . They paid for a rental for the whole time . I'm not complaining but the dealership and Toyota could've made the process much better . If you let a vehicle sit in your parking lot for six months chances are things going to break . For instance, they wanted me to pay for a caliber that had seized
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ThrowingTimber 07-14-2016, 02:57 PM Got a new frame for my 05' (stupid low mileage) traded it in 6 months later for '12 tundra with 40k on it for about 10k out the door :) no f'ing way I was getting a 4 year old truck for 10k anywhere else...
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