When I am surfcasting from a beach, what pound test should I be using about?? I know my Ugly Stik Tiger rod takes 12-30 lbs. test and is ML action (7 ft.)
Should I be using 17 pound test?
Also : I am currently using 20 pound line, and it always curls and tangles when I release the bail, even though I only put it on a week ago. This has happened several times, what can I do to solve it??, It's embarrasing when I try to cast and the line loops itself around my handle!!!!!:confused: :eek: :confused: :eek:

I guess that would be dependant upon the type of line I am a BRAID man myself I would reccommend either Power Pro or the new Spiderwire Stealth try the 30lb with a 8lb diameter

Be sure to back this stuff with mono to prevent slippage
http://www.marcushoward.com/pics/spider_stealth.jpg

S&S if you are using a spinning reel, the line problem is a result of how the line went onto the reel from the filler spool.

That being said are you fishing rocky areas, or beach?

can you talk alittle more about how line gets on spool from filler roll i have experienced this birds nest more than once when putting new line on never knew there was away it went on thanks

Hey,

*Specialist,
SnS & I both fish together an would be fishing The South End Of Conimicut Near Longmedow Fishing Area to 'around Sam Gorton rd' There is some rocks ,,, but mostly just Beach... He uses a 7' Uglystick Tiger,,w/ Fin-nor Lite spinning reel,,, I use a 8' Shakespeare Alpha Custom w/ Shakespeare 'Long-Cast' Spinnng Reel,,,,, Currenty we both have 20LB Trilene BigGame from the same 300yrd Spool bought about 2 weeks ago now... The Line Memory is Pretty Bad--Weird , Because it's a good name in lines....

**Marcus,
We have used Braided Line 'Fire-line' for freshwater fishin.....We didn't like it all that much... case it was a pain to tie knots cause the Fabric like stuff and all ,,,, is the Spider line better ??


***What do You all think of 'Ande' Monofiliment for Line? I have seen it in alot of saltwater Magazines .....But some people say it isn't very good ????What's up ?

*****I think i'll stick with 20+ # line,,,,Not only 'incase' we hook up with a bigger fish ---even if ya set yer drag,,some fish are too fast (snap) but 20+ # Line is Good incase ya get 'snagged' or pick up a big hunk of sea-weeds,,,,etc..

Have a Good One!

For anywhere in the Bay from Longmeadow & up, 15# test should be more than enough but don't use that cheap wallmart crap line. Get good stuff like Berkely Big Game Green (my favorite) or Ande

Couple things to remember: Mono is thicker than similar strength braid meaning you'll have less capacity on a reel - not too much of an issue where you are. Mono is a lot cheaper than braid and probably easier for the Newbies to use. Mono can sometimes wear quicker so it's best to respool somewhat frequently. I like to respool my reels (mono line) every few outings when chasing big fish in the rocks. Get rid of any potentially bad areas of line and have good line on when the fish of a lifetime strolls by.

If you two pitch in your money together, you can buy a 1# spool through some of the better shops. A 1 pound spool will have somewhere near 3600 yds of 15# test line instead of the 900 yds on the smaller spools (that you waste line with anyway). This will get a more reel fills for less money.

Putting the line on the spinning reel, place the bulk spool on the ground with the label side up. Verify that the line coming off the bulk spool, which is lightly coiled from being packaged on the bulk spool, is going in the same direction onto the reel. That way, the built in curl of the line (called memory) will pack itself in te same direction on the reel. Also keep in mind that better lines have better abrasion resistance AND lesser memory than the cheap lines - like Shakespeare.

I think most people will agree that Ande or Berkely Big Game are the favored mono lines out there.

I like Ande or Big Game on conventionals that I use for bait fishing, but I prefer PowerPro for throwing plugs/eels. On a spinner, I use FireLine 30# for my braid choice, but if I were to use mono it would be Berkley Trilene XL.

SSX, SnS, MRMacey,

Berkley Big Game is probably the most popular mono for Bass and Blues in use today.
The drawback is that all mono lines have “memory” to varying degrees.
In my personal experience, the stiffer ones like Ande, especially in diameters above 15#, can be particularly troublesome on spinners in colder weather.

Ideally, if you’ve shelled out $30+ for a bulk spool, your local B&T should be happy to machine spool it on a couple of reels for you.
If that’s not possible, have someone hold a pencil through the spool and holding it horizontally, spool it on with tension your self. A third way would be to place the spool in a bucket, label side up and spool from there. The bucket just keeps it from rolling all over the place if the line should catch the lip of the spool.

In any case, having someone walk all the line out and then re-spooling it with nothing tied to the end will usually cure improper spooling.

Another common problem is over filling the spool.
If line loops off by just opening the bail and gently shaking…it’s probably over filled.
Try to reveal about an eighth of an inch at the bottom inside of the spool.

Also, a bail roller that is not turning freely will likely twist any line, on every turn of the handle.

At first, I was also intimidated by the micro-diameters and various textures of the braids and braid-types. But with time and patience over the last three seasons, I’ve found Fireline with the Uni to Uni and the Palomar knots to be pretty much bullet proof and now only use mono for leaders.
Although the initial expense for FireLine may seem like a lot, the fact that I get a season per spool makes it pretty much a wash for me in that respect.


Just a rainy day and one guy’s humble opinion here folks…

Hope I’ve helped.

Dave

As John said , your line is too heavy. Guys land 50 pound fish at hatteras with 15 pound mono . If your line is breaking cause the fish run too fast (or whatever you meant) , your drag is not set correctly. For 15 pound line , you want no more than 5 pounds of pull and i would go with less since you are inexperienced anglers. Use a leader at least 3 feet long , about 30 pound test. That will solve abrasion problems. An even longer leader is better.

Satheart, Can't a 30 lbs. leader be snapped by a blue??:confused:

Generally, a blue won't got thru a 30# steel leader, mono, odds increase for lost lure... I use 50# mono when bass & blues are around or steel when just blues (rare)...

Will a bass take a lure on a steel leader?

yep - but there is much debate on if it loses you strikes....

I fell in love with the Yo Zuri hybrid line this year. Its got both resin and flourocarbon, so not only does it lack the memory associated with standard mono, but its also less visible. The only draw back is that its more expensive. It does seem to be more durable though. I never had to respool my bassing setups from the beginning of the season, which have twenty pound test, and my bonito setups, which have 12 pound test hybrid, didn't twist up nearly as much as the stren high impact i fished last year.

Is 50 Lb. Mono leader less visible than a steel leader?

Will I be able to buy a regular 50 lb. test spool of line and make leaders or do I have to use "mono leader material"
Is there any difference??:eek: :confused: :D :)

Yes and yes.

Many of us use mono line as our leader. Leader material is more abrasion resitant than line. I use Ande Pink 40 pound line and I am starting to like Berkley Big Game Leader 30 pound.

I like the Berkley lines and get the 17#. Sometimes I use steel but mostly 30# for my leaders.....I think between my hubby and I we only lost a few blues on the mono ( and mostly because we got into fish and didnt bother changing to a new leader after a blue....:rolleyes: our own fault really)

I have tried 50 for my rigs and leaders but have a hard time tying good knots with it........so what does one do?????? tie a MUCH better knot on lighter line or a CRAPPY knot on heavier line?????? 6 of one???? half dozen of the other???

Guys for mono I use Big Game, 15-17# is all you will need. For mono leader I use30lb, 40lb, and 50lb. It all depends on the situation. If there is a school of voraciously feeding blues, and thats what you are catching, then check your leader often if you use a mono leader.

As far as Fireline goes, you guys need to learn the Palomar Knot. It is the easiest knot to tie, and works well with braid, and is recommended by most of the braid manufacturers. Do a search on palomar knots, I know there should be a pic on here about how to make it.

SnS
Bought a Spool of the Big Game (green) 15# A few days ago,,, very nice line,,i like it ----and it matches the reel pretty well...
Anyways,,,
I know when we used to fish freshwater,, that using bright green- line like that is a bit crazy looking,,, But does it do somthing in saltwater,?,,, i know it's alot less Visable in the water

But what makes a (15#--Clear) Big-game Spool Different From the same Lb Test Big-Game (Green) spool??
does the green color play that much of a roll-- if anything i would think the clear line would Trigger more strikes but the green line looks awsome as well..... What Do You Guys think ??

:confused:

S&S.. your using a Fin Nor Lite, it's rated for 10 to 14lb test. Go above that and it's just not going to sit right on the reel. I have Ahabs and Mega Lite 4000's both strung with 12 and 15lb. If i go above the 15lb it begins to coil off like you describe. Those narrow spools work much better with the lighter lines. Also remember to put the line on the reel in the same direction it comes off the spool. If you want to use higher test, consider a reel rated for the test you want to use, or, switch to braid. 30lb braid will work realy well on that reel. And then theres always the one sure way to use heavier lines...
switch to convential reels..:jump:

Just another opion.. good luck..

Thanx FishAddict, but I just removed my Fin-Nor lite and and bought a Penn Spinfisher SS5500 for $85.
I really love the quality of these reels, they look like they can dish out a lot, plus they are smooth.
I loaded this reel up with 15 pound Trilene Big Game (Green)
The reel is rated for 10-15 pound or something, but 15 pound big game on this reel, will it handle most bluefish and stripers from the beach??
If I hooked onto a 30 pound fish and my drag was set correctly, would it handle it well??
I want to know the answers to these questions because for the first time I feel comfortable with my outfit and want to know what it can handle: :p
-7' Shakespeare Ugly Stik Tiger ML action 12-30 lb. Line
-Penn Spinfisher SS5500 rated for 10-15 pound line
-Trilene Big Game 15 pound test (Green)
Will this go well if I use it for Stripers(up to 15 pounds, or watever I hook onto), Blues, Tautog and Cod(in the winter time)
I hope It is because I love my outfit and the way it handles.

vic,
It's a Nice Combo!
I hope to Pick up the Same thing for X-mas ,,, But i want an 8' Rod -

With a Penn Spinfisher 5500ss or 6500ss (matters)
(Same thing tho- Ugly Stik Tiger---or maybe even Ugly stik Custom (Only $4 more---so we don't get mixed up with the SAME rod/reel ,,lol) :)

See Ya..

SSX, come on, stop, I wanna hear from someone who knows and has used one, as you would say to me"stop sticking your nose in my posts"
:D

SNS,
Should do the trick for a while. You could handle a 30# fish if you work it right. It will certianly handle 98% of the fish you'll catch in the bay. Don't think I would Cod fish with it though.

Have you tried the "wall" off Narragansett Parkway? I've never fished it but people do fish it, if you go out on the incoming plan on spending some time waiting till the water drops.

Well, what should I use to handle the Codfish???
I need to fish this winter, and I hear that there are only Codfish and Tautog biting, but I still don't know where they are.
Do any fish bite as often as in the summer in the winter???
:confused: :D :cool: :)

Tog=Rocks and steep dropoffs.

Cod=Cox's ledge charter/headboats

Its a nice surf det up and a good boat set up for stripers , blues and weakfish. Its not a good set up for taug and definitely not a cod rig. the pole mighy be ok for cod but the reel and line are not. for cod the best bet is a conventional reel with dacron or spectron braid. I prefer spectron but some people who use their own equipment on charters say that the charter guiys get pissed if you use spectron when they have dacron.

Fom a beach , you can land even fifty pound stripers with 15 pound line. adjust the drag and get skilled at ;landing fish , especally the last 20 feet , that's when you'll be losing most of them. Use a good long leader , like 6 to 10 feet on that rod. That would be about the length of the rod plus a 3 or 4 foot casting tail.

Since Christmas is coming up, I have decided I would ask my dad for a Conventional rod and reel for my cod and tautog fishing. I will set that on my surf spike rod holder in the winter while throwing little jigs and grubs in hope for some bass. I think it will work out well. I don't feel as bad about the winter now.:D
As for the conventional outfit, I am going to need a rod for about 50$ and a reel for about 50$ , or a combo thats $100, it can go a bit over like $120.
I want quality for the price and a conventional combo that is good for tautog AND cod.
It must be able to catch the majority of 5 pound taugs and cods I guess I'll be catchin over the winter, but also handle a 20 pound fish smoothly, in case a big cod hooks on.
Thanx for all your help, you are contributing to the future of fisherman!!!!!!!!!:D :D :cool: :) ;) :laughs:
:happy:

Hey I just figured sotim out, look SSX,its Kim McGin!!!>:D
lol:laughs:

Hey you better hold on to that rod instead of jigging with with another rod because tatoug will strip you clean if you don't wait for that bite ! :eek:

Just thought I would save you some bait ! What would you be jigging for anyway ? ? ? :confused:

well, i thought you could jig for stripers in the winter? i know the bite will suck, but it's better than sitting there and staring at your rod....
I need to do something related to fishing....to remain sane, beleive me, im serious, i become depressed when I am in my house, I need to be outside, so i will fish for any saltwater species, be it cod or tautog or anything that makes sense to fish for in the winter monthsm, atleast once a week....:confused: :(

Vic, As you said in one of my post 'it's a public forum' !

Why are you always so "Mean" at me in here but nice in person? (no one is impressed :p)

Kim :D LOL!!! sick.

Hey dude, i was just saying it's NICE rod/reel,,, next time i will say it isn't nice - if that's what you preffer....


A conventional combo is like my Shakespear Tidewater with the stupid 1 stage Penn that i caught the flounder on at Colt (lol)
U can get one for $120 i guess----

SERIOUSLY -- BAD NEWS! (hear-me-out)

I heard from The head of the RISAA (steve mederios)
that the Cod and Winter Flounder don't come up this far anymore :( LOOK>

Here is what he said:

"hello thanks for the e-mail
well mike as for conimicut winter fishing- yes
you can catch some nice sized tautog in that area and best bet is on the
green crabs- cut them in half expoing the meat inside that helps scent the water also discard the large topshell and break the claws and legs off there is many way of rigging a greencrab but the most sucsessful rig for me was hooking it into the exposed meat ang bringing the hook out of the last back limb hole.

As for casting try to get as close to rocks or structure that has some
mussels on it.

but I'm sorry but there haven't been any cod up in the bay for
quite some time. they don't venture this close anymore. as for the winter
flounder they cannot be caught inside the bay. but you can get them in the
salt ponds on south shore. Just check the season posted at www.risaa.org

Also when fishing for the togs, you will want to use just enough weight to
hold bottom. (2oz should be fine)
Togs hit softly and you want to set the hook as soon as you
feel the hit or they will strip you. email me if you need anymore help Best of Luck!
Steve"




I also Got another E-mail from another Risaa.org person:
He Wrote:

"Hello mike
i am dreading this time of year (winter) as well but there are still fish so we cannot giv up that easy so as for you questions
Yes! Tautog stay around, but almost hibernate in the rocks in mid-winter They go
deep into them. They don't bite as much after the water goes down into the mid-low 30s.
Another place I heard is excellent from shore is Beavertail in Jamestown. also under and near the jamestown bridges if you can get out on boat-

Cod isnt the same - maybe back 20 years ago they would venture up that far but your best bet is not from shore and in a boat -- the ledges and ditches also block island sound as well as long island area

As for flounder
Well, Winter flounder has been really terrible the last several years. The only
place I have heard any numbers is in salt pond, but nothing like it used to
be. I went out 2 years ago just north of the inlet and we caught 1 winter
flounder in about 2 hours, but I heard others did better in that spot that
same year.
Good luck!"



Hope this helps us Vic,,,,I have MANY more e-mails from Risaa.org Members about this---- i will FWD: them to ya if you want
:confused:

Vic- Call me tomorrow--let's go get some free candy :)
We'll go out as Fisherman (lol)

Have a good one guys!

allright that's it !!!!!!!!!! it took some of us at least 11 months to move up from up from scally wag to something better , you young guys are (14 and 15) and taking over our website. it's okay if maybe you want to learn about shore fishing.you can't expect us to give you our spots.takes years of knowledge to figure it all out!!!!! anyone else have any input in this?
or maybe i'm just bitter cause i'm not young again!:smash:

:smash:

Shore-Manic!!!
Take it Easy Please,, How are we 'taking over' the website??

WE NEVER ASKED YOU FOR YOUR SHOREfishing SPOTS!!!
pick on someone else,,,cause i am VERY ornery and will not put up with being put-down like scum by someone who thinks cause i am younger that i have no right to post!


Hmm, 11 Months ??? :rolleyes: It says YOU got here in JULY 2002
IS IT JUNE ALREADY??? pretty cold!!
That was sure a FAST 11 months--jeeze where did it go ???
Your not tricking anybody.......:p


No Problems with you just calm down please,,,,no reason to outburst like that man......as us "young-guys" say ,,, "Chill-Out"
:smash:


Maybe you are bitter cause your not younger,,, :p No reason to pick on THE FUTURE OF FISHERMAN,,,no matter what! Sit down, Have a 'Beer' or whatever you drink and calm-down- being old isn't that bad ;) :)

Take it Easy!

P.S.


you young guys are taking over OUR website? 'OUR' ????

In My book ,,, John R is the 'Owner' you are just like me,,,,a MEMBER .....even if you have been here a full 3 months more then i have,,,,,CAUSE I POST MORE cause i have more questions,,,, if it takes anyone that long to reach 50 post,,, then they have no post,,,,that's there own fault

I did not post up just to become a 'Salties' or my now changed 'Fishin' Frenzy' ONCE YOU REACH 50 YOU CAN MAKE WHATEVER NAME YOU WANT IN YER 'USERCP'!!!

If you think that's what i am trying to do,,,,i have nothing to prove,,,
I'll reset all my post back to 0 if that makes you happy!!

Learn to Understand there is 14/15 year olds in this WORLD who also LOVE FISHING AS MUCH IF NOT MORE THEN YOU!! you have NO-IDEA how much i love fishing,,,catching fish,,,damn i even love being near and on the water,,,,no matter what ,,YOU CAN'T CHANGE THAT FOR ME buddy!!
I know you are older but we can all learn from each other,,,and YOU need to learn to understand that,,,as well as many older people on here who think all teens are punks who don't know how to fish

IF ANY OF YOU FISHED WITH SnS and I YOU WOULD BE SURPRICED HOWMUCH WE LOVE IT AND HOW OUR EXPERIENCE AND KNOW-HOW IS FOR OUR AGE GROUP----and we WILL be older people one day - we are the future of fishing! respect that so we can respect you!

No Hard Feelings Shore!


Bye..



P.S. my e-mail is back online,,,, i set up a hotmail account
" stripersniperx@hotmail.com " So instead of filling up this thread,it's between you & i , So if you really need to speak to me ,,, PM me Or E-mail me!


See Yas!


ALSO,,,to Whoever this DOESN'T have anything to do with,,,,,Please Disregard It ----No Disresect or Offence TO YOU!
and please ONLY reply on this Matter....nothing else

Thanks

SSX, SnS,

I mean you no disrespect and in fact, I admire your enthusiasm.

It would seem however, that if you just applied the knowledge that you have been given and spent HALF the time fishing as you spend online, you'd be well on the road to knowing instead of asking.

Dave

Captain Dave - well said, you just said in 3 sentences what took me an hour to write between "Real Work"

This is NOT a bitchin' session, hopefully just a bump in the right direction. Please understand it as that. However, I am getting a bit tired of seeing threads hijacked this way.

Take it Easy Please,, How are we 'taking over' the website??
By not being a PART of it and maybe a little disruptive for us old farts...

WE NEVER ASKED YOU FOR YOUR SHOREfishing SPOTS!!!
pick on someone else,,,cause i am VERY ornery and will not put up with being put-down like scum by someone who thinks cause i am younger that i have no right to post!Hmm, 11 Months ??? It says YOU got here in JULY 2002
IS IT JUNE ALREADY??? pretty cold!!
That was sure a FAST 11 months--jeeze where did it go ???

There is a time and place to be ornery ( I was once too) and this isn't the place... And time posting here isn't any indication of qualifications in the suds.
No Problems with you just calm down please,,,,no reason to outburst like that man......as us "young-guys" say ,,, "Chill-Out"

Calm goes both ways...

Maybe you are bitter cause your not younger,,, No reason to pick on THE FUTURE OF FISHERMAN,,,no matter what! Sit down, Have a 'Beer' or whatever you drink and calm-down- being old isn't that bad

It's not all about age, just settle down a little, OK?

you young guys are taking over OUR website? 'OUR' ????

In My book ,,, John R is the 'Owner' you are just like me,,,,a MEMBER

As the "Owner", I want everyone to have a piece of "Ownership" of this website. That means that everyone can take a little pride in how the site develops and the friendships, competition, & knowledge you can dabble about with or jump in with both feet. That's what "Ownership" of this site is about - everybody contributes a little and everone gets a little back in return.

.....even if you have been here a full 3 months more then i have,,,,,CAUSE I POST MORE cause i have more questions,,,, if it takes anyone that long to reach 50 post,,, then they have no post,,,,that's there own fault

You have a ton of questions, most of them good questions (not that there are really any "BAD" questions). Your posting more because you have more questions is not the solution. Your solution is to work at it a little harder on LEARNING about surfcasting instead of ASKING about surfcasting and have it given to you. You'll learn more about fishing from reading a few tips & tricks from a book or online when you go out and APPLY those tips & tricks while trying to get a bend in your rod (fishing rod). You'll learn more about fishing if you fish with people that have more experience fishing. You'll learn more about fishing if you spend more time on the water, not doing the same thing day in & day out, or on a computer.

When you come up with a thought or a question you want to ask, write it down and do a http://www.striped-bass.com/vbulletin/images/top_search.gif (http://www.striped-bass.com/vbulletin/search.php?s=) on the boards BEFORE asking a question. You see, these forums can be a little quirky at times. 95% of the people don't mind answering questions, half of them will answer the same question that is asked every 2 weeks or 2 months by someone different, but very few will take kindly to repeated rapid fire questions when all along, 90% of the answers are available after a search of the boards or just a little investigating. I honestly feel that if you make an effort to dig thru what's available, you'll find stuff beyond your wildest dreams. Once that effort is made, you'll have an easier go of getting help online.

You absoluetly need to know that a lot of guys & gals here have put in some serious time to learn what they've learned. They are not just going to "GIVE" it away. These same people want to see you succeed but they want you to earn it.

Learn to Understand there is 14/15 year olds in this WORLD who also LOVE FISHING AS MUCH IF NOT MORE THEN YOU!! you have NO-IDEA how much i love fishing,,,catching fish,,,damn i even love being near and on the water,,,,no matter what ,,YOU CAN'T CHANGE THAT FOR ME buddy!!
I know you are older but we can all learn from each other,,,and YOU need to learn to understand that,,,as well as many older people on here who think all teens are punks who don't know how to fish

Learn to understand that this is a fishing board 99% occupied by adults that love fishing, many of which probably more than you do :D . Wait until the day you have a fantastic beach all to yourself, with just the right amount of wind, surf, and solitude and suddenly you get a BANG from a big fish, not some snapper blue off Conimicut. Wait until the night where you can see the Milky Way glowing while Montauk light and SE light @ Block nearly synchorize different light patterns and a shiny lineside crashes on your plug. Then you need to decide to grille it or send it free. Wait until you've accumulated years out on the water's edge before you can claim loving the water more than someone else. It doesn't happen for everyone but a LOT of us here suffer from that GodSend.

So please understand, you are in the presence of many adults and that is the standard that you will likely be held to. This somewhat nasty bickering back and forth between you two is not adult behavior. Not that all of us adults always exhibit that :eek5: :as: , but it happens a lot less.

IF ANY OF YOU FISHED WITH SnS and I YOU WOULD BE SURPRICED HOWMUCH WE LOVE IT AND HOW OUR EXPERIENCE AND KNOW-HOW IS FOR OUR AGE GROUP----

BTW - I used to think I was good & had EXPERIENCE until I got consistantly schooled, now I have no such illusions.

You are not likely to have many of us fish with you if you continue to buck the nature of the board. If you become part of it and be the studius little grasshoppers you can be (grasshopper doesn't need to be a bad thing, we all were and still are in some ways), you might be suprised to get asked to go out in time.

I don't think anyone is doubting your enthusiasm...

and we WILL be older people one day - we are the future of fishing! respect that so we can respect you!

When you're older, you might look back on this as having a little too much misdirected enthusiasm. I know I did and probably most of us did too. Believe it or not, you might even think back and say your folks were right about a lot of things :eek:

No Hard Feelings Shore!

No hard feelings here either, just understand that this is to help you and not hurt you, just steer you in the right direction... The road of fishing forums is well paved with roadkill of good intentioned teenage cyber fisherman, don't buck the advice of us "Old People" ;P , fit in & learn from us and from time spent on the water, a LOT of time - again, this is NOT a bitch session, hopefully just a bump in the right direction.

WOW, A NOVEL!!

Thanks John R,
And No,,,I haven't been to BI at that time to see the milky way and LI light on a clear flat night with the perfect wind and a 50lb cow (yet) :)

But for my age group,,,may it be a small fish,,,but my largest striper was a 15lber taken this past summer out of Quonset Point (yes, the day of the air show!) I was going to go water-Skiing but decided to stay and fish ,,,that tell ya something?
I may not have caught a 50lb cow every time i go,, and may never, as for some anglers never in a life-time,,,,but i sure as hell hope i get close :) and to tell you all the truth,,, Here is what i caught this year so far:
15lb Striper
5 Schoolie Stripers (2-4) Lbers
3 Bluefish (small-to-sm medium sized) (max-appx 4lbs?)
1 Nice sized (didn't weigh) but was appx 15"? Fluke (flounder) i'm guessing 6lbs (but SnS begs to differ ;) )
1 Medium Scup (keeper size)
And a numerous spider-crabs :)
((that don't count-just thought i'd add it))

SnS,,Is about the same number of Salt fish,, You all see,, we started back off in freshwater,,,it was very fun,, catfish and bass an all,,,then we went salt water,the fly-fishing (no luck at all) ,,then again we went freshwater (ultra-light outfits)Then back to saltwater,,,no we ,,or atleast I know this is what i want to do...

So, Looking at them Numbers,,,Can you see why we are a bit disappointed? why we would want to know HOW to catch a fish to be proud of ?? a fish that FIGHTS?
When i get my boat in the water,,,,I want to be able to show my dad the fish i caught when i come back to the dock... I've Passed USCG/USPS at URI Boating Course..A full exam (Power&PWC)... as well as the Online Boat-Us Exam, I AM VERY SERIOUS ABOUT BOATING SAFETY,,,AS WELL AS FUN :)
BUT share the wealth of your fishing tips and stories etc,,, it is not like i am going to steal your spot and fish it out,,,i'm lucky if i catch seaweed :( I fish at a very high pressured fishing area. i don't know how it is to have a beach to myself with all 30+ lb stripers waiting to challenge me,,,, i cannot say i have... so show me how i can experience that!!

I know You Love the water , WE all love the water,,,i am just saying (to shoremanic) that he should not burst out like that in a total OFF-TOPIC,,,,you always say i go off topic,,,that was a Serious Detour,,,and a rude one at that!!!

John- Seriously,,,i don't sign online and go here all the time to stress myself out , and typing for this long,,,,just to get bashed cause i ask too many questions,,,,are you always like this to new people who want to learn a bit ?? I truly Love this Forum,,,you started one hell of a group for RI/MASS/CT area Anglers,,, You are still doing a great job,,,it's like you get a new member every other day! and i want to continue to be part of this,,,a member and an online 'Friend' because you never know who that guy fishing at the other end of the beach is...


Hey Capt. Dave
"It would seem however, that if you just applied the knowledge that you have been given and spent HALF the time fishing as you spend online, you'd be well on the road to knowing instead of asking." >> Seriously,,,,i WISH I COULD!! but i live in cranston now and there is no places to go around here :(
I can drive very soon ,,i will be surf-fishin all night ,then i will never be online (lol)
But My Current Transportation is Either My Bike,,, or my Mom n Dad (and yes,,we do have Classic Show '69 Dart Rt.383 (and it's mine soon! (woohoo) .i don't BS)
Don't 4get the Dodge Ram!! (lol)

Now back on Subject....


John! Shore said 'our-website' as if it is his more then mine,,, you just said a part of it is all of ours,,,,so he gets a 'bigger' part and more respect cause he is older??? cause he cauht more fish then me? bigger fish ?? cause he is a personall bud of yers??
I know this is off-topic, but on the big fish matter,,, Me,, i am not a lucky fisherman with big fish,,, but if it's any consolation ,,, and it's way off topic and i shouldn't ask it in the serious post,,, but , WHAT IS YOUR ALL BIGGEST FISH???? AND HOW OLD WHERE YOU ???? cause if you where my age,,,i bet that made you extra happy,,,,maybe some of you never even fished at 15 almost 16?? so that makes you better ?? come on now guys
jeeze,,we are all humans and should be equal,, even if i am a 'grass-hopper' what ever the hell that means
:confused: and i never caught a 'Cow' at BI at 3am while looking the the milkey way and stars (sounds like one hell of a clear night,,,and some good vision--BI when i am there,,,is always foggy in the summer-time,,,and clear in the day,,strange...
But the weather allways sucks when i am fishing-----that is what will bring the real die-hard angler in me

Also,,,many of you have rude remarks as means to us winter fishing.... some go like this "If you can't Pay---Don't Play"
"Maybe You should find other hobbys" "This Sport is Expensive- deal with it" "Maybe you should fish at warwick mall- there is cows there (ha ha-not)" and so on......
You think that is going to discourage me ? make me quit?? heck no (lol) it makes me want more answers!! you can't stop a dedicated fisherman,,,may it be one who is 15 or 50 ,, no matter...

Ornery? As Ornery,,,i mean,,,i don't give up,,,and when someone is rude to me,,,i am 100% more rude back....and i'm some what of a "Prick" when i am spoken to like that!
i know you all are sayin "he's just a kid,,what the hell is he talking about? he has no rights like that,,,he don't deserve respect-etc" just look back when you was 15......... and you wanted to catch fish but wasn't sure where and when
you asked people and learned,,,,,sure there wasn't S-B.com so it was even harder..... so with-out S-B.com,,,,it will be the same for me,,,,just please take it easy on me,,,i mean no disrespect,,, i just want answers and to make some fishing buddys,,,even if they are just 'online-people' it's always good to know they are there!

John R,, i mean no disRespect,,,Please don't get mad or p-oed at me, for this,,, i am just trying to 'defend' and make a place for me here...

Please Reply with your comments,, don't worry,,i can take it (if they are bad) i'm pretty well with that,,,dish it out! lol


Thanks!

I think everyone just needs to clear the slate and start fresh......so many times and so many people have said things or whatever that have just been taken way to serious or out of context! (can that happen on the internet??? LOL)

To SSX....I am not doubting your love passion or ability as an angler.....but believe me when I say experience is a beautiful thing....I cant begin to tell you the things I have learned from some of the people here.......they truly have made me a better fisherwoman!

When you're older, you might look back on this as having a little too much misdirected enthusiasm

HA! THIS????? well even just from a year ago...or even MONTHS ago I find my "enthusiasm" was so MISDIRECTED!!!!!.....I know I have SO much to learn yet.....but I have come so far at the same time!!!! its all about learning and a great angler will never stop learning...no matter how "good" they are!!!!

this here is a great place to be (and this goes for EVERYONE) sometimes you will be the one making ways...taking waves...or trying to smooth things over.....and just like life.....sometimes we dont know which one we are...or how to approach the situation!

now....lets all be friends and share the luv!:D :D :D :D :D

Wow!
See, that is what i like! If only you all could be that nice and understanding! thanks Jenn :)


I agree,,,DROP THIS RIGHT NOW,,no more replies on the subject,,or else that is starting it back up and rude,,, unless you have comments (good ones ;) ) lol

''Can't We All Just Get Along?" :D :)


Have a good one Guys!

Why I oughta....



.... move this into the scuppers...

Exactly what is "the subject" anyway?

Oh yeah, now I remember.

30# FireLine rules!

And now, I'm going fishing.

Dave

I don't have the T I M E to read every post on this thread and on the boards..

Please don't get mad or p-oed at me, for this,,, i am just trying to 'defend' and make a place for me here...
I'm not PO'd, yet. Believe me this conversation would be real short if I was. You don't need to "defend" or create a "place" for you here. That would insinuate you need a small area with walls around it to defend :wall: :rocketem: (just kidding).

All I'm saying is turn it down a few notches and relax and learn.

are you always like this to new people who want to learn a bit Nope, I can't remember any new members that fought the traffic of the site so much instead of going in the same direction. I'm putting a smiley in now so you know that I'm not trying to be mean -> :D <- ...

When I was 14-15, I was stoned, or drunk, and skipping class, and doing all kinds of extremely STUPID things. It took me years to unscrew-up alot of the dumb things I did and it wasn't exactly easy either. Too many people in the situation I was in then don't make it back.

My biggest fish is 37 pounds from shore, I was 32 at the time. Now I think I'm a better angler but I don't get out enough to the good spots to increase my odds... That 37 pounds is probably about average for the surfcasters that have been doing it for a few years.

We're not equals - I'm twice as old as you so I've learned more, good & bad. I do hope that you are doing better than I did when I was your age, how about that? I'm not the equal, certainly in a fishing sense, of a lot of people around here.

Respect is earned. It's not just about your fishing skills or even mostly about it, it's about attitude and how you conduct yourself online. That will go a lot farther in your earning respect than anything else...

Blah Blah ,, You Outa What ?? :p j/k

No Sence in Moving it,,,Just end it...

FireLine is nice line (i HAVE used it) but it's a pain in the (blank) to Tie ANY kind of Knot with that braided stuff.... Mono is better for tying,,,but braided kills Mono in the Diamiter and longer lasting catagorys

What do you all think of 15 - 20 # Ande Mono for them Tautog at Conimicut??? ... i know 20 is heavy,,, but it has to be very abraision resistant,,, bottom, rock and wreck fishing ,,, so what do you all think is the BEST ABRAISION RESISTANT MONO & BRAIDED LINES ?

Let's Turn this Thread Back into a Line Catagory,,,no more BS....

Good-Luck Fishin' Dave!


Have a good one!

Closing this thread now....