Pretty please?

;) how about a cape forum to

Are you sure you want two forums where BM will reign as King?

King PluginKoma?

I can make any forums (within reason :p ) that you all want. Do you want regional stuff?

Plug building forum sounds good. Personally, I'd like to give it a shot but that's down the road a bit. I've gotta learn the flyrod before that happens. Who here besides Patrick makes plugs? I know GS pours his own jerkbaits and several people make their own teasers including FW & Bobbike. Salthear & Smokey pour a ton of jigs...

What other Forums would you want?

John;

I would go for a Plug Building Forum. I just started building them recently and have picked up on it rather quick. I would contribute as much as I can to the forum, and hopefully would learn some things as well.

Just think, the piglet Tattoo as a forum leader.
I made this jucy plug tonight

so can ya put more than 1 pic on a thred up??? here are some more of the plug tattoo will try to swipe...........

and last but not least...
this plug i made out of ceder, it is through wire and has 3 different colors and sparkle in a apoxy coat. It has a lead shot above the front hook and the back is drilled and weighted.
I slay bass in mecca to the tune of humungus:D

Hay this is fun, I hope mike gets emailed for every post
Patrick do you make plugs for the fish'ies;) :p

BM....you have certainly posted some very interesting masterpieces....do you just build for yourself???? or (ahem) are you also in the "sellin" business too??????:D :D :D :D

C:\My Documents\Pictures\Fishing pictures 2001\Parrot tube braid needle.JPG


parrot needle/first attempt/first cast = 1 striper.

Nice needle BM, good job!
where's mine?

Slip - at the bottom of the reply page, next to "attach file" hit browse, find the file you want, hit open and that will upload it to the server..

BM - yeh - you can only post one pic per because it might slow you down from running all the servers on the Internet out of disk space ;) :D :p http://128.241.205.103/vbulletin/images/smilies/errrr.gif http://128.241.205.103/vbulletin/images/smilies/laugh2.gif

see slipknot he has more:p :rolleyes:
see tattoo he makes em to. Na i makem and breakem

Man, that sheen on those plugs is awesome... You'd need to charge 20 bucks a piece in the shops... But yer costs are less because you steal 'em first - then paint & poxy, right?

OK - I think we'll hace a plug building forum http://128.241.205.103/vbulletin/images/smilies/biggthumpup.gif

BM,

I've hand carved a few plugs from dowels but nothing like you guys make. The lathe thing is just too messy for my parents house. And when I move out, it will be into an apartment and that won't fly with the landlord. I'll stick to rod building. I have an interest in plug building but I don't have the lathe, the tools, the wood, the know how, or the hardware.

Got Rod? ;)

John Ya would'nt believe the fish that slap them thangs.
otay patrick......
I want Tattoo as froum plug leader, but i want 2 plugs from him first. I stole a nice needle from him and gave his jig away, swiped his pork rhind and then begged for grommets.
im good ain I
but look at him i caught him on the end of my line..........

Aaa John, I thought that's what I did. do you mean once I uploaded it , I didn't need to copy and paste it ? I'm confused, I make cabinets(square boxes) and plugs, I don't make computers work like you :)

slip i wanna see your plug dude

Originally posted by John R
Slip - at the bottom of the reply page, next to "attach file" hit browse, find the file you want, hit open and that will upload it to the server..




Then what? I thought I did this before....

I would love to learn how to make plugs. I have half started a few times, but never have really finished anything up. Maybe I'm a little scared that my first plug won't be perfect. I'm sure once I get started I can learn all the tricks about where to put the weight and such. I guess this winter is the time to get the garage DUSTY.

I would love to see how Habs spins wood since he is only about 3 or 4 miles form me...

You'd need to charge 20 bucks a piece in the shops...

I just came back from central Florida. I went on a gator tour where they also carried fishing tackle. There was a tourist from London there buying up dozens of freshwater Rapalas (wooden diving lures) that retailed for about $6. He said that the same lures would cost $25 in England!!

Imagine what some beefy saltwater plugs could fetch. Although my guess is that much of that price in London included some hefty taxes.

Mike

Hey Slip - I took a picture for ya... ;) http://128.241.205.103/images/post1.gif http://128.241.205.103/images/post2.gif Slect the file and hit open... Are you uploading over a phone modem? or broadband?

I want Tattoo as froum plug leader, but i want 2 plugs from him first Wait a minute there lathe-witch ;) all plug donations for special treatment have to come over this way first - nowhaddimean? :D I also need to warn you, I have very few woodworking tools to offer - matter o fact, right now, I'd have to turn 'em on a dremel. So remember BM, Slip has far better production facilities that I do http://128.241.205.103/vbulletin/images/smilies/nut.gif

LMAO

Hehehehe

John, cable T1

I did that and it said too big 600x600.
so I guess I need to squash it.

Funny it shows up on my screen, but it doesn't say - slipknot has attached image

I'll try later, I'm a computer googan/greenhorn

Slip - it works on your machine because for some reason it shows up as a path on the site. Because that path points to your machine, it'll work for you. 2 things to keep in mind: 1 - Use the "IMG" tag under "vB Code" if you are linking to a picture already on the web http://128.241.205.103/images/post3.gif - 2 - use the "Attach file" process to upload individual files to the post. These files can have a maximum size of 599x599

C:\My Documents\Pictures\Fishing pictures 2001\parrotneedle.JPG


kinda small.

Slip,

Me likes....

Do you throughwire or use screw eyes?

What woods do you find the best?

The finishing questions will start later

OK fellas, you guys just wait till I get home and post the new batch of needles! You aint seen nothin yet!

I would be happy to be the "leader / mentor" if I was nominated by the group.

I don't know that much, but I try....

Slip, that needle was the one you LOST right ? :D

BM, I know, I know, Darters! You need blank stubbies? Pay for the dowels and I'll make 'em. A dowel costs 2 bucks and I can get about 6 out of it. Labor is free. :)...as long as you save me a seat next Slip in the back of the skunk moblie....

Originally posted by Fishpart
Slip,

Me likes....

Do you throughwire or use screw eyes?

What woods do you find the best?

The finishing questions will start later

Fishpart, that particular one was mahogany and thru wired. The best wood may be maple or birch in my opinion. But I'm just getting started with this hobby. That needle has tubebraid on it and that stuff is big $
The finish is epoxy

Slip;

I thought that was turbraid. How do you like it? Me and JonS put some on a plug and it looked like it would work great. Does it conform to the shapes ok? How Much weight do you put in the back?

I like to use either cedar stock or pine dowels, thier real easy to work with and they sand down real nice. I'm still trying to find that Alaskan Yellow Pine though.

I wasn't able to get Alaskan cedar so I got some mahogany and cedar dowels. That is tubebraid , it looks awesome in person. It has enough wieght to float with the tip up slightly.
I caught a fish at Watch Hill Sat. night on my first cast with it. Habs says I should retire it now. I can make more.

OK - so do we have a vote? Sounds like we need a plug builders forum. Tatoo & Slip for Forum leaders?

And start up some location based forums?

Cape Cod & the Islands & the Ditch?
South Shore Mass to Cape Anne?
Points North?
Rhody & CT?
Points South & West?

(Saltheart and I have, of course, complete moderation capabilities as well :p )

In regards to my post about you aint seen nothing yet.....it was directed to my two cohorts, BM and Slip. The more I thought about it the more I thought I was showing off. Sorry to offend anyone. :D

http://www.members.home.com/miked3/6pack.JPG


One short of a six pack. :D

I think if the parrot had wings it could fly.....

BM and Slip that is some nice work. I went out last night looking for a lathe. The minis at Wood workers were 300 and up. Slip how do you like rigid tools. The reason I am asking is I can get a full size for about 300 at home depot, then I can do pool cues and shafts also. My buddy works at Home depot and he may happen to find an "open box discounted one" if ya know what I mean.

John this place is getting popular. It might be nice to do it like you said.

Tatoo those are some nice plugs. If we start a plug building forum you guys might have to run a work shop somewhere.

Specialist,

Before you buy check out http://www.grizzly.com for lathes. Great quality machine and you can get the mini for $149.00.

Tattoo, you swine, gimme some of those eyes. Cheater


yes I am drooling

who's your daddy slip?

It's almost 5:00, wait till HE gets home and logs in.....

You Tattoo? Da Link!!! Da Link!!! - I don't see it the picture....

You little pig, gimmie...................................
cheater

Is there a doctor in the house!!! :D

I have More to. i seek help

Shoot...anybody can make a pointy stick and put hooks on it.Needles are nice but variety is the spice of life.Here's my stuff.
http://www.pixhost.com/pixp/poltroon/mvc-806s.jpg Hands off BM!!!
Didya ever notice BM has little squid like suction cups on his fingers?Plugs just naturally stick to his fingers.Goes with the webby toes.
I still got my plugs cause tattoo and slip run interference for me now.
Hey Tattoo!I think that's really funny how you tell BM those darters are 2 oz. when there really 6 oz. It was a real hoot when he busted his rod last week.Think'll figger it out?....Nah.Not a chance.I think he should get one of them ugly stick thangs.
Wait'll he finds out I cut his line every 100 ft and spooled it back on his reel.:eek:

You guys are making me jealous. I got no nice plugs. :( I hope santa is nice this year.

AHHHH the motherload

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so have a vote slip and tattoo or was that tattoo and slip.
me i just wanna steal plugs

LMAO - I'm thinking that both should be co-conspirators on the board - if they want to. Besides - it looks like there will be a team effort needed to stop this:

...from looking like this:

Every plug looks great, just let me buy some !!!;)

How's this?

Sweet stuff Tattoo. Nice work - I'll, uhh, have to inspect 'em a little closer like - knowhaddamean?

Seriously, nice plugs. How long have you been making them?

John ,lmao.
tattoo, you been holdin out you pig

John, been messing around with this for about two years now. This year was the make 'em catch fish AND look real pretty year.

Dave, holding out? Not me...:D

FOLK'S
I THOUGHT I WAS BAD. THIS JUST CONFERMS WHAT I HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS. FISHING STRIPERS IS NOT A SPORT, IT IS AN ADDICTION. I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH FISH CANDY! REMEMBER IT IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT LENGTH, WIDTH, AND COLOR.AS IT IS ALSO ABOUT “PRESANTATION”.
LATER
:cool:

And to think I am still woking on my first bucket full. Looks like I have a long way to go.....

My inventory is about 2/3 of what BM has in his, uhh, first picture. Many of the plugs I have suck or at minimum, need a rework...

Of course, I fish EELZ

Snakes huh? Maybe you could try out a "prototype" eel skin swimmer?

I haven't built one so it would really be a prototype.

Snakes huh? Maybe you could try out a "prototype" eel skin swimmer?

Sure - I'd do that :D

John,

Thats only what BM carries with him. Ask him whats in the hallway closet. :D

What else do you really need?

OK - I'll bite - what's in the closet BM (just remember, we're a family friendly site :p ?

When he says he bought 70 pink bombers he aint fibbin. It was really hard to see what was in there, some many reels, rubba things, and eye balls looking at you it was hard to focus.

It kind of looked like a rainbow, all kinds of pretty colors.

what closet there all full??????
OOPPS, WHAT ARE YOU DOING, im driving my truck;)

Hey Tattoo, BM and 10X10,

You know, part of what makes lures successful is their versatility. If you make a plug that only works in one area, well that's not a very good lure.

This is why I propose you give me a bunch of lures to try out down here in CT land. Then I can try them here and if they work here, we can safely assume that it will work in all the areas inbetween. :D ;)

So send me your lures. I'll run them around.

Patrick..How is a plug that is created for a specific set of conditions at a certain location not successfull when it slaughters the fish while nothing else will. I would say it is the most successfull!! Why? Because the fisherman studied the area and came up with the perfect solution. Time to take your head out of the sand again.

Send them to you...why so you can look at them and fish them once a year? :p

Charlie

I agree Charlie, the only thing I have noticed is that LARGER plugs work better in certain areas than others. Like the canal, the bigger the better. Actually the whole cape for that matter.

Enough of a difference from one state to the next will keep you guessing. The guy who can figure it out in all states gets the stripe.

Patrick, you only fish once a year?

Charlie, tell them how hard it is to get plugs outta me...:D

Charlie,

You're really messing up my plug scam. :)

Tattoo,

I fish as much as I can but this year, I haven't really had the heart for it. Just too much going on and scheduling conflicts and yadda yadda yadda. Plus our season hasn't been going so well down here. You know how it goes.

A tattoo, didnt you see that sighn, It says closed plug bag,no ho's

Hey Buddy, I'm gonna get you license plate number and give it to the guy at the gate.

OK, it XXXXX.....

Blank Stare...double check to see if that was the plate number, we left that poor guy dumbfounded.


Ok so we got one vote, Does that count?

Patrick, no I don't know how it goes. I force myself to go weather I want to or not. You cant sit home and catch fish from the couch!

Here's what I tell my wife in April, See you on Thanksgiving. :D

You can imagine how well that goes over.

CT must have fish, you just need to hunt for them.

Sure patrick...What you got to swap?Hey!someone got yer tuna from the beach last week..... on a windsurfer.Wasn't you was it?

Ouch, ken its twinkie land here.

Trade eh? My interest is piqued.

Once I get the rod building thing going, how about a nice custom rod for some nice custom plugs? We'll hammer something out. Lots of variables to discuss.

First and foremost, throughwired. and must have eyes.

No fancy colors needed. Black, White and Yellow.

We have smaller bait here so I need smaller plugs. Modeled after the big plugs but 1/2 oz to 2 oz. But I'm mainly looking for lures in the 1/2 to 1 1/4 oz area.

Whatever designs you feel most comfortable with. small panlips, bottles, needlefish, and whatever else you make.

Of course, the number of plugs I recieve is dependent on the outcome of my price and vice versa.

If you are interested, I think we should charge each other just for materials. Why keep track of time and stuff when it's between friends?

Now I give you my word. Believe me, I'm a man of my word. I'll do everything in my power to give you the rod you want. I'll test it, I'll get everything just right or I'll cut the threads off and start over, at my own cost of course. If either person is unhappy with the other's production, they reserve the right break the deal and keep their own goods.

The only problem I can see is if you want a blank I can't get my hands on or a blank that's a 1 piece over 10 feet.

Now, I'm not a rodbuilder yet. Just give me some time to get things down and when I get results that satisfy my highest standards, we'll knock out the odds and ends if you are interested.

10X10, tonight is darter night.....interested? Place your order now....them four swimmers in the bottom of that picture look kinda cute. They single? :)

Patrick.....you gonna be the next Al Goldberg? :D
Don't let them Epoxy fumes get to your head much longer.....

OK - you got one vote :rolleyes:

Patrick - when you have a couple years of rod building under your belt (as in building rods for 2 years and not you built a rod 2 years ago) you may wish to barter a bit. In the meantime, take a few of what you have, go down to the reef, and wet a line...

Radar, I love You. can I have some? will i see funny colors?
will I go skitso?
now this is how ya ho plugs.

WOW, nice autocad rendition BM, I like it. Very easy to follow.

Got Darter?

i mailed it to gibbs , aint i a stinka, the funny thing is it works, im gonna take a darter and do it to it.....................:D

not if I do it first.....you get all the money though.

Think of what all that money could by....a brand new sand sled with REAR heating.

John,

Pretty please with sugar on top..

oh?you mean these?http://www.pixhost.com/pixp/poltroon/mvc-810s.jpgThe big fat yella one on the bottom swims so nice I think i'll call it Esther Williams.
So which ones do you like?
The lips on those are too small don't wiggle real good but I got some big lips on the way.
I want some of those big darters like bm broke that dinky little toothpick rod of his.Not me, I got a man's rod.You could whip a rabid grizzly bear to death with that thing.Flip that sucker right out there no sweat.

I converted a sissy fisherman into a plug nut.
eeeeebud Bubba. sweet. hay i apoxy'd the black n purple swimmer. oops dont tell piglet #2 or #3
Ken bend the sides of the lip towards the front of the plug.
aaahh i need #3:D

oops forgot, hay Tattoo.....Hay tattoo....HAY WEEZUL!!!!!!
look at how many people looked at Your post, can I be Your Friend:confused:
Oh 1 more thing. SUCKER

Here is a stupid question... (there's no such things as stupid questions, only stupid people who ask questions)


How do you do the awesome paint jobs? I mean the ones where the top paint fades into the bottom? Also, how do you get that awesome scale finish? Not with tubraid, just with the paint.

John,

This is where my OCD is helpful. I'm anal about getting things right. If I don't like how it turns out, I'm not above starting over. Like I said before, once I get my feet on the ground and I make my rods and Mindi's rod, I'm open for trades. I would NEVER EVER make a rod for someone without knowing what I'm doing. If mine turn out well, then I'll move forward.

The next Al Goldberg? I don't think so. Rod building isn't going to be a business for me. Just something for myself and something I can use to barter other goods with.

I'll be open to all sorts of different stuff to barter so pay attention. Once you see my work and you're interested, might be able to trade you a rod for whatever.

Plus my aunt and uncle are huge fishermen. Walleye, black bass, perch, bluegill, catfish, they catch them all. Custom rods might be a nice way to pay them back for all the trips they've taken me on and all the birthday and christmas cards.

Pat;

With the paint jobs you use spray cans. To get the color to fade into the other color, you spray it from above. To get the scale look, you use a screen and spray through that.

P.S. The reason I know, is I asked the same ques. of 10x10 a while ago. he does some really nice work.

Invest in an air brush. It's well worth the money.

This plug post should hit 100.?

Hope it does hit 100. I'm defintely interested in learning more. Some more questions:
How do you know where to put the belly hook?
What kind of hooks do most people use, open eyed or with split rings?
What size hooks?
How do you know how much weight to put in a particular plug and where?

all these questions and more will be answered in the Lure Building Forum....??? :D

:D

NICE STINKING WORK!!! Those plugs are sweet!!!!!!!

Tattoo is a forum leader - Slip, do you want the co-honors?

Dont look at me to do it slip,
spray paint cans is what i use, You can fade the sides to a purple gold by holding the can far from the plug as in gold base coat and then fog with purple, its killer i came up with one day and works.Tattoo try'd to rip me off , but i got it back.
For your hooks ,depends on the size of the lure.
Up front Ya can use a 2/0 vmc treble and a 3/0 in back or a siwash hook. and split rings. YOU can make the needle go pkunk by weighting it with led shot in the middle and at 1 extra in back for casting balance. If you want a verticle floater Ya drill the back and weight it in the butt. if you want it to sink use a little more lead, also the hooks add weight so a lure that barely floats will may sink with the hooks. I use rod builders apoxy. Hay slip I hit tony stetzko's plug bag good. he coulda got me back tue night when i was in the suds
2 was a good year...... Im rotten aint I

Yes John, I'd be honored. :)

Cool - Thanks Slipknot... you now have the honor & the ability to pull the handle on the flush-o-matic... So if the plug theft count reaches too high....

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I LOVE this topic! YA HOO! I could see myself really getting into this!!!! Actually...I could see myself trying to "modify" more than making my own from a hunk of wood (I just barely passed woodworking in school.....and that was probably because I was the only girl in the class...:rolleyes: ) but anyway....

Either way its very interesting to me and I cant wait for the plug building forum!!!! Good Luck!

oh....guess what??? I think I am # 92 BTW!!!:D

Ok here's what you do .Get some plugs that catch fish.Now copy them as to where the hooks go, how they're rigged, how the lure is weighted,shaped etc.Take it from there.As far as painting goes I use spray cans like Tattoo and Slip but I got myself half talked into an airbrush gun.You can only do so much with a spray can.Here's some stuff i've been making lately for kicks.These are fly rod size lures which I collect.As you can see you can get some good paint effects even on small baits like these.Course I could do some really nice stuff with an airbrush but I dunno, your looking at a couple of hundred bucks at least for a good one with all the stuff you need.http://www.pixhost.com/pixp/poltroon/mvc-820s.jpg

Ken You freak!
FOR SALE SLIPKNOTS ROCK

BUT THEN AGAIN HE ONLY GETS TWINKIES.
i got the first twinkie, i shoulda ate it.
here is a slip twinkie from tonight.........

10X....buy a Pasche...worth the money.


That mouse is sexy.

Ten by - I like the mouse....

Yeah me to, what is it a self portrate

squeak squeak.Got cheese?What's with the toes?
You guys must be desperate fishin the ditch.What I gotta come up there and find you some fish again?Jeez, you need a babysitter.Come to think of it I could use a babysitter.It's a wonder yer wives let you out at all.Whattya do? whine and sulk and shuffle around the house like yer best friend died til she can't take it anymore?Ow ow ow.

Hey that looks like a rock I used to stand on at Pip's Rip.

If you see me comin' better step aside
A lot of men didn't and ....

:D :D :D

STAY TUNED FOR MORE bASSmaster antics..............
Hay boss man:o :( :) :D ;) :p :mad: :rolleyes: :cool: :eek:

That doesn't look like his rock! I'll just have to take another peek at it Saturday morning!

YARD SALE,
1) Slips spot, slightly used , will sell for 4 plugs

canalratt, shhhh, do't spoil the fun.

Do you think I wanted HIM to know my rock? what so he can spray paint it with a big red x

Funny thing about Canal rocks ....
There used to be a certain Canal fisherman who was far and above the rest of his colleagues.
Red Top used to have a weekly Canal fishing contest. Since this individual won it so often they finally did away with it. As he got older his legs were wracked with arthritis. His upper body however, was strong. He used to muscle flat rocks into good locations so he could sit on them as he cast and retrieved his beloved Cap'n Bill swimmers.
It became a local joke among Canal anglers to 'look for the flat rocks', since they signified his choice locations.
When he passed away his coffin was surrounded in a sea of flowers that were arranged in such a way to form a giant striped bass.

Anybody know his name??

Ever find any of his flat rocks??

10X, please don't tell my wife thats what I do.....I'll be in a time out forever.

MikeF
Great story, I fish with a guy like this, They are truly a story in them selves. I am humbled to be in there presants. I know a fue of them in my neck of the woods. Still walking around. They are not all dead, but some people wish they were.
They still making me feel "stupid" about the business after Forty years of fishing only "Stripers".:confused:

Don't know the guys name but probably seen him at one time or another. Look at the rocks closely on the Ditch and it does tell a story. You can see where some guys make a nice flat spot with rocks to where they cast and a worn trail through the bushes is usually a good spot or a lobster trap.

:D

10x10

:(

Where'd they go?!?!?
What a morning to see Ken's SN, and remember.

oh man, sorry to rehash memories of 10x10. I bumped this to the top only because of the funny antics and the request for a plugbuilding forum. Look what that forum has become! 10x10 was before my time here, and i wish i could have met him, but it sliped my mind last night that he has passed away.