cow tamer
05-18-2008, 04:38 PM
Do you bother to fish or go to another spot?
View Full Version : So You Get to Your Spot and There's Surfers cow tamer 05-18-2008, 04:38 PM Do you bother to fish or go to another spot? tattoobob 05-18-2008, 05:03 PM I would try to fish but if it was unsafe for the surfer I would go and try a back up spot. Surfers don't surf at night RIJIMMY 05-18-2008, 05:35 PM That would mean you're fishing in the daylight and should just go home anyway Nebe 05-18-2008, 05:36 PM you leave them alone. They were there first. Hopefully, they will do the same when they find you there.. BigFish 05-18-2008, 05:47 PM Eben nailed it....they got there first! If I was there first and they showed up and started surfing (and this has happened to me before).....you tell them to move the hell on......no listen......I take out the 3 oz. Orange pencil repleat with 3/0 trebles and I make it known that I intend to continue fishing......what I catch is entirely up to the surfers!:jester: Rob Rockcrawler 05-18-2008, 05:56 PM It happened to me a couple weeks ago. I drove there, bout 20 miles from where i was and it was chock full of surfers. I just watched em for a little bit and moved on. No prob last night, got there at 8 oclock, just as they were packing it up for the day. Adam_777 05-18-2008, 06:02 PM I move on while doing my best great white call. hulkyj61 05-18-2008, 06:26 PM I fish and surf. I see both sides of this. Surfing is impossible at night unless youre near a pier where its lighted. For those of you who are not night owls, theres plenty of great spots where waves break that are unsurfable. In any situation where there are fishers and surfers just remember respect gets respect, and it works both ways. PS Bigfish- Please cast one my way when I'm surfing, ill snag it. those things are expensive:jump: BigFish 05-18-2008, 06:38 PM I will keep my hooks sharp Hulky!:jester: Raider Ronnie 05-18-2008, 06:39 PM If you hook into a surfer, I wounder if they will give a good fight !:laugha: BigFish 05-18-2008, 07:23 PM I can guarantee they will!:jester: emgred 05-18-2008, 07:23 PM Several people have it right; I never run into to surfers at 1AM:laugha::p Gunpowder 05-18-2008, 07:29 PM Several people have it right; I never run into to surfers at 1AM:laugha::p no joke...i have ran seen some surfers out there in those hours on the outer cape. some of them are just as crazy as we are :eek: big jay 05-18-2008, 07:34 PM If you hook into a surfer, I wounder if they will give a good fight !:laugha: Sure - once they paddle in and punch the guy that threw a plug at them :) Joe 05-18-2008, 07:40 PM Surfers show up and start surfing then give you the big f-u - I've never seen them leave because someone was fishing there first. The little brown signs designate the areas as fishing spots, not surfing spots. cow tamer 05-18-2008, 07:43 PM Well, I guess what I was getting at, when I started this thread is I'd like to know if decent size fish still hang around with surfers in the water. No need to fish, if the fish are not there. Has anyone done well with surfers in the water? hyefisherman2 05-18-2008, 07:44 PM no joke...i have ran seen some surfers out there in those hours on the outer cape. some of them are just as crazy as we are :eek: .....you sure about that mike? :devil: Joe 05-18-2008, 07:57 PM Surfers don't usually spook fish - neither does a guy with a spear gun. likwid 05-18-2008, 09:13 PM Surfers show up and start surfing then give you the big f-u - I've never seen them leave because someone was fishing there first. Well given the attitude of some of the RI surf fishermen, this doesn't seem very surprising. Birds of a feather I guess. ;) Squid kids Dad 05-18-2008, 09:29 PM They were there 1st Joe 05-18-2008, 09:53 PM I think the difference is when there are surfers in a spot first, fishermen typically go someplace else. When people are fishing, the surfers could care less - that's been my experience. chunk 05-19-2008, 01:26 AM I have a good relationship with the surfers where I fish, sometimes they know if there are fish in the area, which is priceless. I just fish around them. JoeBass 05-19-2008, 09:29 AM Last year in Maine I almost came to blows with a surfer. I moved twice down the beach and each time he eventually surfed right where I was fishing. I yelled out to him to have some courtesy. This caused him to charge up onto the beach. Words were exchanged. I did cast a plug pretty close to him a couple of times after that. k-e-v-i-n 05-19-2008, 10:24 AM Surfers show up and start surfing then give you the big f-u - I've never seen them leave because someone was fishing there first. The little brown signs designate the areas as fishing spots, not surfing spots. I was just talking about this the other day!! It really pisses me off. I would have the common curtousy if I showed up to a spot and surfers where there ... to MOVE... BUT if Im fishing a spot and THEY show up after me.. I would think they would move... NOT THE CASE... F'ers. no love from them... no love from me... they better be carrying a knife to cut my braid. NEWENGLAND 05-19-2008, 10:48 AM You dont OWN THE OCEAN. That is unless your a commmercial Lobsterman. (Ask them Tey will tell you that they own it) Whoever is on the spot first has the right of way. The exception to this is if your fishing a navigatable waterway and a vessel. (Canoe, Tugboat with Barge) or anything else needs to pass by. Its a vastly differnt story if your say SCUBA Diving and are anchored and are flying a code alpha and a divers flag and some idiot desides to do donuts arour your flag or drag lobster pots around in circles until they hit you. Then I say lay out the Steel Cable on the fishing line and let them snarl up their props in it. Or with Surfers: If they were there first, then they have priority, If you were fishing firt then they should move on to a differnt spot. Cast net for Bait? http://cs.nga.gov.au/IMAGES/LRG/34041.JPG Flaptail 05-19-2008, 11:28 AM I said it many times in my past career as a writer of piscatorial pursuits that it is the wise surfcaster who befriends the surfers and talk with them regularly. Surfers see fish all the time, espeically on the outer cape where they wait beyond the bar for the wave to form as it goes over it. What they see that you can't and what they will tell you should incorporate into your midnight hunt. Show the surfer dudes some love and respect and you will benefit greatly from avoiding casting into the dark into lifeless water. RoyL 05-19-2008, 11:28 AM If there there first I leave, unless im fishing for bluefish then I make some cast...sortha like West Dennise beach....they are always there. jeffsod 05-19-2008, 12:49 PM I agree; whoever is there first. I also think the situation can vary too depending on whether you are talking about a beach break like cape beach or reefs in RI. A beach break is easy for a surfer to move down the beach but unless they have a particular bar that is working. But reef breaks have a defined area that you can expect them to be on during a good swell. vanstaal 05-19-2008, 02:17 PM Eben nailed it....they got there first! If I was there first and they showed up and started surfing (and this has happened to me before).....you tell them to move the hell on......no listen......I take out the 3 oz. Orange pencil repleat with 3/0 trebles and I make it known that I intend to continue fishing......what I catch is entirely up to the surfers!:jester: this happen to me and they called the police on me the cop told me they have more rights that you go figure. likwid 05-19-2008, 02:22 PM Throwing a plug at em = assault. Gunpowder 05-19-2008, 06:43 PM Throwing a plug at em = assault. what about a weighted treble for snagging? :tooth: BasicPatrick 05-19-2008, 06:50 PM Seriously...In the world of gov't regulations this is called user conflict and can only end up leading to beaches designated for specific use (ie: Montauk) which in the end means less access. First on the spot got the spot and be polite when that behavior is broken. Bill L 05-19-2008, 06:53 PM Throwing a plug at em = assault. And going in to surf where I'm ripping a three ounce popper is stupidity BigFish 05-19-2008, 06:54 PM Alright....dull hooks then.:tooth: Ake G 05-19-2008, 07:44 PM I'd prob. just grab my board and join them.... hulkyj61 05-19-2008, 10:19 PM It's much easier to find a fishing spot that is unsurfable, than a surfing spot that is unfishable (if not impossible). I understand the being there first rule, but if theres a wickid swell hitting the coast chances are surfers will show up. Some surfers dont have the respect that I and many others do, so this whole throwing a plug at us businees needs to stop. I fish as well and would never even think about doing something like that. You guys are better than that. If surfers are giving you a hard time, find another spot, its not worth dealing with a bunch of cocky surfers and possibly getting into a fight. Theres so much coast that can be fished, but not that much of it can be surfed. Thats the mindset of the surfers, we dont see the consistant waves the west coast sees, so when a swell hits the beach may not be the best place to fish. BigFish 05-20-2008, 05:05 AM Hulky...this has happened to me several times......I will hold my ground! Here is the scenario......I go to bed extra early the night before so I can be up at 3 am to hit my favorite spot......I get up early, drive all the way there, gear up and hoof it out there to make the first pre-sunrise casts......I am the first one there!!! I begin fishing, hook a few.......and suddenly a surfer shows up......now this spot is a small area.....if he surfs and I fish......we are in each others way! I hope he yields and moves along (which has happened before). What has also happened before is they slide down the cliff and right into my zone, my line of fire....and they know it!!!! SORRY!!!!! I am going to keep fishing as I went to alot of time and trouble to get there at a specific time to fish! I have made myself quite clear at these times that I am there and I am fishing the spot regardless if they choose to "zip" around me! Usually after a few....shall we say.....near misses...:rolleyes:.....they will move along! If I yield that spot just because they show up......it will be a sign to them everytime for them to simply enter the water, and the big dumb goof ball with the fishing rod will go away....UH-UH!:cens: Now....on the other hand I have had this happen after I have spent a couple hours fishing a spot and its just dead, the surfers show up and because it has been unproductive, I have yielded the spot to them!:wave: I do my best to be a good guy....but in that vein I expect the same in return and when it does not come.....then the gloves....they are off.....like it or not!:fight: code207 05-20-2008, 11:28 AM If you are there first and they want to surf into your casts their fault if they get hooked, and if they have a problem with it thats why i carry a .45 in my bag. well and if i catch something bigger than me with teeth. :hihi: if they are on the spot first im sure that yall have more spots. :fishslap: likwid 05-20-2008, 01:34 PM Seriously...In the world of gov't regulations this is called user conflict and can only end up leading to beaches designated for specific use (ie: Montauk) which in the end means less access. First on the spot got the spot and be polite when that behavior is broken. Bingo. And the organizations that surfers belong to certainly have ALOT more clout than most surfcasting organizations. Joe 05-20-2008, 02:09 PM Really, you can put Surfrider alongside Audubon, the U.S. Park Service, shoreline towns, and waterfront property owners - they'd like it all for themselves. Swimmer 05-20-2008, 04:47 PM Never happened when I was a kid surfing everyday like I did. Never ever was there a conflict of any sort. And I use to surf at night sometimes on the full moon and it wasn't overcast. You could see a wave far enough away to prepare for it. No one ever bothered me that was a fisherman. A lifeguard maybe, once or twice, but never someone fishing. hulkyj61 05-20-2008, 08:50 PM I am not here to defend the @$$ holes that show up and feel that they own the ocean because they surf. I am warning you that I know some of these types of people who just dont see both sides of the battle. I have never gotten in a fishemans way, and never had a surfer take away my spot (mostly because I do not fish in big surf because its rare and im surfing). These guys have a militant localist attitude on some spots, and it can get people hurt. Sounds dumb, and it is. The ocean is everybodys, but it may not be worth your while to toss a plug at someone if youre alone and theres 4 or 5 surfers that show up. As for pulling a gun, little extreme. That could get you in a lot of trouble brandishing that thing at a surfer after you just tossed a plug at him or her. Pulling a lethal weapon, loaded or not, should be the last thing you would think of doing in any situation because u never know who that surfer could be. (aka a cop, service man or woman, your neighbors kid etc.) The fact still remains that there are more places to fish than there are to surf. Most of the surfers that do this crap are not local unless its a really good swell. If youre a local to the spot chances are you may get to know the surfers and maybe have an understanding with them to avoid the conflicts. Just remember surfers know when theres good surf in a spot, and fishermen have no idea if theres going to be fish. code207 05-21-2008, 04:43 PM you miss understood what i said about my piece, i said if they have a problem and start %$%$%$%$ they get laid out and i plant a knife on them... lol likwid 05-22-2008, 08:05 AM you miss understood what i said about my piece, i said if they have a problem and start %$%$%$%$ they get laid out and i plant a knife on them... lol Thankfully the police are much much smarter than you. code207 05-22-2008, 12:00 PM lol, how do you know im not an officer? BrianS 05-22-2008, 12:05 PM lol, how do you know im not an officer? I'd be more amazed to find out you were over 15 than an officer :lama: code207 05-22-2008, 12:10 PM why becuase i was telling jokes, you all are too seriouse likwid 05-22-2008, 12:28 PM Location: Portland Maine Once upon a time I was a ski patroller at a popular Maine resort. Driving up one morning to the resort I got pulled over by a cop. He says "son, you got a headlight out" I turn to him and say "you do too" He looks and sure enough... He walked back to his car and drove off. code207 05-24-2008, 09:57 AM lol that is perfect vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
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