Has anyone tried the new Diawa Samurai Braid with a spinning reel? I've gone down the Suffix route a few times and consistently end up with wind knots. Now I'm back to the love / hate relationship with PowerPro. PowerPro is nice because it's thin, but the random breakage is an issue from time to time.

I used Fireline from day one and have never looked back.

30# fireline

Definately Fireline #30. Its thick, gets ugly looking, and takes a few seconds for all of it to land after a cast, but lb for lb the strongest, toughest line I have used.

Suffix :kewl:. Haven't had a wind knot in a year and a half.

I used Fireline from day one and have never looked back.

Yup, me too. Love the FIRE.

fireline 20#

I like power pro, the fireline I have used seems to have some kind of wax coating on it that makes it stiff.

40# PP.

40#PP on spinners, stren super braid on conv

Fireline #30 on Spinning gear works great after breaking it in. Pretty stiff right our of the box. Power Pro has done some wierd things...can fight a fish one minute then break for no apparent reason just stripping line by hand. Anybody know what's up with that?

50 pound Power Pro on my VS 200

65 pound Power Pro on my VS 250

20 lbs tuf line xp green.going on 2 years same spool,no wind knots.not stiff and had few issues with it.

Trying the Berkley Big Game 50# braid on 2 reels ... so far I like it alot ... Also trying 50# Cortland Master Braid on a conventional penn 980 for jiggs only .. Cast it all night ,, no problems .. Had to put a glove on because I put a groove in my thumb .. The only reason I had to do this was,, from burning the jigg in at end of drift,, so not to get caught on the edge ..

I've always used Cabelas Ripcord Si and have no problems with it.

Cortland Masterbraid :love:

Cortland Masterbraid - 30#, but may need to go to the 20# on a particular reel, as I don't get as much distance as I feel I should.

Still get wind knots from time to time, but over all not too many problems. Had far more with PP - but still love the mono.

65# Spiderwire Stealth on an Emblem Pro.

30# fireline on one and 50#powerpro on another

50# Sufix on VS250 ,30# PP on 711

20#-30# Fireline on my spinners.

65 lb PowerPro on my big levelwinds. 50 lb PowerPro on the ones I level myself.:kewl:

Varying pound tests of PP on everything except one 8000. I have Cortland on that and like that as well as I like PP. Thier is quite a bit of good things being said about fireline though isn' thier.

14-30 Fireline on my spinners, and 50-65 Big Game Braid on my conventionals.

50 Suffix on a 150 and 55 Diawa Samuri on a 200. Never had a problem with either one. The Diawa is an 8 weave and is stronger and thinner but not an extra $15 to $20 worth of better than Suffix (6 weave).

I like power pro, the fireline I have used seems to have some kind of wax coating on it that makes it stiff.

When its new its stiff but it breaks in and gets real limp.I've had mine on my Vs 150 going on 5 years now and still as strong as the day i put it on 20# test.

Fireline #30 on Spinning gear works great after breaking it in. Pretty stiff right our of the box. Power Pro has done some wierd things...can fight a fish one minute then break for no apparent reason just stripping line by hand. Anybody know what's up with that?

I found one of the problems about this with my friend its microwind Knots and i'm talking small.My buds line kept breaking and we could not figure it out for the longest time kept looking at the line close as can be and nothing.Took a while but he found one and he just gave it a tug and snap.PP cut itself very easily and these ever so tiny knots is what does it.

I am using 20-50 Power Pro on some of my reels. I have used fireline, spiderwire stealth and a few others. It's power pro for now.

I had mystery break offs with the 50 #pp but not the 30#.Thats why for the heavy line I went sufix but I'm getting an occasional wind knot when throwing well below my rods rating trying to load it and throwing in the wind.So for me it's chockable to user error.

30lb sufix on my vs 150
50lb sufix on my vs 250
50lb cortland master braid on my abu

20lb Ande Backcountry on a VS250 :D screw braid...

I have been digging the 65lb Cortland on my Newell 229 for jigging though....

20# Backcountry on a VS200. Ah hell,whats it matter.Never catch anything anyway.

20# Backcountry on a VS200. Ah hell,whats it matter.Never catch anything anyway.


Joe at least your not sitting in the freakin desert dreaming of fishing,, oh well it is only 110-115+ this time of year,,,,,,:smash::smash:

Cortland Masterbraid 65#:drool:

I have been using fireline crystal 20 lb this season in saltwater and really like it. Casts beautifully and no wind knots. Seems resistant to fraying up too.

I have been thinking though that wind knots may have more to do with spool design of the reel than with the line type. I have been using an old Zebo Cardinal 6x which if you haven't seen one is similar in design to a penn 710. I have good luck with the penn 710 too, but have had a few knots with suffix. It does not have a skirted spool and it sits in the top of the reel with the reel body around it. Anyway, I have never had a wind knot on that reel. I have used spiderwire fusion, original spiderwire, mono, and now the fireline crystal. I can throw a plug as hard as I can with this reel and have been fine so far. With my other reels that I have wind knot issues, I find if I really throw it with a lot of strength, you are more likely to get a tangle, compared to an easy lob type of cast.

I have been using spiderwire ultracast invisibraid in freswater this year and really like it. very supple, casts a mile and strong.

Until I find something better, FIRELINE has been my Go - To line.
I used to be a big P-Pro fan, but those phantom break-offs have stopped me from using it. Although P-Pro is a softer line from day 1, Fireline will also soften in time, and the strength seems superior (iffin' that makes any cents) :musc:

....and yes, I always have something spooled w/BigGame - I'll never forget ol' faithful.

i used 30#Fireline last year to NO problems, and many fish!!!
that is the best, imho and my limited experience..................

that's why this year i'm giving Sufix a whirl,
55# to 65#, paired with a 704Z and tied to
60# to 80# BGame mono shock, or Ande IGFA mono.

still loving the Ande BCountry for my mono set-up,
for the bait and sluggos rod.................that stuff is
SHWEEEEET! been very very good to me, sure hope
the Sufix does me right this year and if not; i am prepared to
try the BGame braid, it looks very similar to the Fireline?

50# Sufix Performance on Penn Slammer 560. Do not remember the last time I've had an issue with a wind knot or line twisting. Have never suffered from a surprise breakoff either.

When I first started using braid with a spinning reel, I would get "wind" knots. As I studied the situation, what was actually happening was that at the end of the cast and the onset of reeling, there was a tendancy for the line to hop up onto the top of the spool then get pulled back into the spool with subsequent reeling. This would result in a "wind" knot on a subsequent cast. Now I always pull some line at the end of the cast, prior to beginning to reel. No more "wind" knots.

I used Fireline recently and had it part many many times over a four day stretch, lost a ton of plugs, was it a knot issue or was I all balled up?

I used Fireline recently and had it part many many times over a four day stretch, lost a ton of plugs, was it a knot issue or was I all balled up?
Do you have a cracked guide?