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Just n time
06-11-2008, 06:38 PM
Bass,big bass in shallow water 68-72 by the hundreds. Mr Striper put me onto these fish the last 2 days. They are very picky but we managed to get a few 25lbers on snakes.Throw the book out on bass not liking warm water:jester:. I'am a believer now! Got a tag yesterday.:bounce:

ProfessorM
06-11-2008, 07:38 PM
Mr. Striper is a crafty son of a bitch. How many plugs did he scrounge out of you. Nice fish.

Biteme
06-11-2008, 08:07 PM
Tommy, extra milk one sugar, no french vanilla :wavey:

mrstriper
06-11-2008, 08:14 PM
yes...NO french vanilla

Joe
06-11-2008, 08:58 PM
Were you sight fishing with live bait to fish cruising the flats?

likwid
06-11-2008, 09:20 PM
Didn't you hear? You can't catch big bass during the day.
:jump:

BassDawg
06-13-2008, 06:31 PM
25#'er is a BIG Bass???

:huh: :huh: :huh:

since WHEN???

Skitterpop
06-13-2008, 06:39 PM
25#'er is a BIG Bass???

:huh: :huh: :huh:

since WHEN???

Its a decent fish Jess and one that did`nt get away :spin:.

likwid
06-13-2008, 06:52 PM
25#'er is a BIG Bass???

:huh: :huh: :huh:

since WHEN???

Oh I apologize, I forgot some people on the site s#@t 50's and got tired of 60's the other day. You should slam him for boga'ing a baby fish like that.

ps: nice socks. :hihi:

Skitterpop
06-13-2008, 08:12 PM
Bass,big bass in shallow water 68-72 by the hundreds. Mr Striper put me onto these fish the last 2 days. They are very picky but we managed to get a few 25lbers on snakes.Throw the book out on bass not liking warm water:jester:. I'am a believer now! Got a tag yesterday.:bounce:

The Book is for the blind :wave: Nice fishing and congrats... I second Likwid`s compliment on the high risers :hihi:

BassDawg
06-13-2008, 09:48 PM
decent fish, No Doubt!
i like to call that size belly-fillers, Mike!!

just wondering about the definiton of quote,
"Bass, Big Bass"...................

imho, big bass start at 30#+.

then there's LAHHHGE bass at 40#+;

then there's TROPHY bass at 50#+;

then there's COW bass at 60#+;

then there's MONSTAH bass at 70#+;

then there's IGFA bass at 80#+;

then there's the 90# to 100#'ers + that fall into that
"stuff Striper Dreams are made of" class, and YES ~oh yes~
i do BELIEVE that she and her yearmates are out there for
sum lucky and skilled sumbeetch to land THE Striper of a Lifetime!!!

shore do hope it's me, or
someone from these pages...............as

The Good Lord knows the members here Fish Hard and Smart,
and are well deserving of the Prize ~~so magnificent~~ and
worthy the fruition of their relentless haunts!! :bl: :bl: :bl:

numbskull
06-14-2008, 09:01 AM
Taken by day while sight fishing in shallow water, that's a big fish in my book. Nice catch.

ProfessorM
06-14-2008, 09:37 AM
in the eye of the beholder, IMO

Adam_777
06-14-2008, 01:06 PM
in the eye of the beholder, IMO

I'd have to agree with you on that.

Skitterpop
06-14-2008, 03:22 PM
Bill got these Rats on Wedensday,31 and 28lbs..embaressing isnt it


Why would it be embarassing? Nice fish though Bill look like he is having trouble with gravity all compressed and all.

Good for him :musc: and I hope you are doing better Steve. You had us all worried there for awhile as Bill did to.

ThomCat
06-14-2008, 03:25 PM
:rotflmao:Hey Steve, I guess you got all the kinks out of that computer:hidin: U musta aquired & fired up this morning!!! :eyes: :pop: :kewl:

RIJIMMY
06-15-2008, 03:32 PM
25#'er is a BIG Bass???

:huh: :huh: :huh:

since WHEN???

you need to build some credibility up. A guy fishing for 2 years from the surf and getting several 30s and losing a 60 just doesnt sit right with me. If I remember correctly, you got a new camera this year? Lets see some pics of you with a small 25 or larger and I'll forever shut my mouth.

mrstriper
06-15-2008, 03:54 PM
If ya lost the fish...how do ya know it was a sixty:confused:

LeCounts1099
06-15-2008, 05:48 PM
I have a spot that features heavy structure in shallow water (6' at low tide...) that ONLY works in early July- early Aug. when water temp there is at least 68- 72 degrees...

Have taken bass to 36 lbs. there in broad daylight on bunker (pogy), live & chunks... & lost much bigger ones to the structure! :doh:

Thus: I've long ago given up the notion that (big) Bass only want cool water! :hs:

Grapenuts
06-16-2008, 06:39 AM
A fish in hand is worth more then a whole school in the water reguardless of it's size....people put to much emphasis on size..it's all about getting out and enjoying ones self.

bassballer
06-16-2008, 07:01 AM
decent fish, No Doubt!
i like to call that size belly-fillers, Mike!!

just wondering about the definiton of quote,
"Bass, Big Bass"...................

imho, big bass start at 30#+.

then there's LAHHHGE bass at 40#+;

then there's TROPHY bass at 50#+;

then there's COW bass at 60#+;

then there's MONSTAH bass at 70#+;

then there's IGFA bass at 80#+;

then there's the 90# to 100#'ers + that fall into that
"stuff Striper Dreams are made of" class, and YES ~oh yes~
i do BELIEVE that she and her yearmates are out there for
sum lucky and skilled sumbeetch to land THE Striper of a Lifetime!!!

shore do hope it's me, or
someone from these pages...............as

The Good Lord knows the members here Fish Hard and Smart,
and are well deserving of the Prize ~~so magnificent~~ and
worthy the fruition of their relentless haunts!! :bl: :bl: :bl:

Cmon Jess, since when is a 25# not a nice bass? You know damn well you log a 25# you would be psyched. Cmon now.

k-e-v-i-n
06-16-2008, 09:09 AM
all i have to say is this... last year my biggest was 24lb ... all season...

this year... I landed a 35lb and Sh*t my pants that I landed it in the surf... since that i have logged 13fish over 21lbs and each of them TO ME are big fish so that being said >>>>> I am fortunate that my season is my best (of only 3 years) and I would never tell someone a 25lber is only a decent fish...

with as many people on this board and only the few here and there posts of 25+ fish ... that in itself should say something.


Can't we all just get along... and be proud of another person catching a fish??? its really annoying that everything has to be a pissing battle on here... sometimes I feel we all are worse than women when it comes to bitching ...

Skitterpop
06-16-2008, 09:18 AM
have I seen on a sunny day in places with a lot of human activity in boats or splashing around in the water very big fish cruising through it all or smacking small baitfish right against a very shallow shore.

The more you learn expands the real book. The book in general is a nice guideline but is far away from the actual reality of what Striped Bass do and when they do it.

JoeBass
06-16-2008, 09:21 AM
Hey, when I land a striper in a tidal river that's 30" (inches, not pounds)on my fly rod and 3" sand eel fly that screams line off my reel and takes 5 minutes to land I'm the happiest Mo-fo around!

Congrats on a gorgeous fish!

EarnedStripes44
06-16-2008, 09:42 AM
I have never landed a 25lb striper in my life!! I hope that changes everytime I hit the surf.

Catfish on the other hand.... damn near half dozen to 25+

Nice fish indeed.

Joe
06-16-2008, 10:04 AM
Don't throw out the book until after you read it.

zacs
06-16-2008, 10:18 AM
25#'er is a BIG Bass???

:huh: :huh: :huh:

since WHEN???



so how many 25# or larger fish have you landed??

:hidin:

compared to a 2.5# schoolie, 25# is a big fish. 10x bigger.

compared to a 50, it is still a decent size fish, only 1/2 as big, but not 1/10.

I am very happy to catch 25# fish, and consider it a very good trip. I know most others do as well.....

Swimmer
06-16-2008, 10:53 AM
If ya lost the fish...how do ya know it was a sixty:confused:


I have lost more sixties than I can shake a stick at.........go figure. Then I wake up, and can't remember what beach I was on.:fishin:

Blitzseeker
06-16-2008, 11:29 AM
Three thoughts:

1) Nice fish

2) If the real "book" is ever written, it will say things like, "sometimes bass like warm water, sometimes cold" and "sometimes they like shallow water, sometimes deep"

3) Regarding size of fish.....come on. Of the seven categories of large fish quoted in the earlier post, there are three of those categories where there is a distinct possibility that nobody on the entire East Coast will catch a fish that large in a given year. (70-80, 80-90, 90+) For the overwhelming majority of surfbound anglers a 30 lb+ fish is the fish of the season, if not a lifetime. If this forum becomes a place where a 25 lb fish (during the day in shallow water, no less) can't be acknowleged as a great catch and a "big" fish, I think posts are losing touch with reality. Or maybe we need a new forum for people who only target fish over 60 lbs. :rolleyes:

likwid
06-16-2008, 11:33 AM
I have lost more sixties than I can shake a stick at.........go figure. Then I wake up, and can't remember what beach I was on.:fishin:

All on 8wt with a 10lb tippet absolutely crushing the IGFA record right? :hihi:

Slingah
06-16-2008, 11:34 AM
we have had threads on what is considered a big fish...Im gonna start a new one, so we don't derail just-in-time's thread too much..

nice catch :buds:...I'm always happy with 25lb bass...

RIJIMMY
06-16-2008, 11:37 AM
If this forum becomes a place where a 25 lb fish (during the day in shallow water, no less) can't be acknowleged as a great catch and a "big" fish, I think posts are losing touch with reality. Or maybe we need a new forum for people who only target fish over 60 lbs. :rolleyes:

I think the poster in question has no sense of reality (fsihing) and believes that by diminishing others catches, he gains membership into an elite class of fisherman.

nightfighter
06-16-2008, 02:16 PM
25#'er is a BIG Bass???

:huh: :huh: :huh:

since WHEN???


You are kidding me, right? (should just hit the ignore button now...)

I, for one, would like to see some pics of your sizable fish, posted here, in a thread of your own.

For me, a 19# fish can be a big fish, when I have been fortunate to get it after catching many smaller, even sub-legal fish. It's all relative. We're not all destined to get a 50, 40, or even a 30# fish.

All this chestbeating is Bullchit. That's a nice fish. Congrats.

Biteme
06-16-2008, 05:51 PM
All this chestbeating is Bullchit. That's a nice fish. Congrats. :agree:

Stewie
06-16-2008, 07:07 PM
Yikes! I've been doing this for a while and a 12-15 lb fish gets me all giddy:rotf3:


especially if it has teeth

Just n time
06-16-2008, 07:08 PM
By big bass I meant fish in the 25+pound cat. We were watching them all last week cruise the flats in great numbers. 100's of fish in that range is big to me and you don't see that everyday:uhuh:. If someone out there was sick of catching 50's and 60's then they should go get "bored" :bs:doing something else.

mrstriper
06-16-2008, 09:18 PM
remember that this thread was about the water temps...


nice fish...and of course good times are always had on my boat
(especially when I fall overboard, or hit the console with a plug and it blows up...)

I think all the members who have fished with me at least have fun!!! and we catch some fish!!!

Mr.Striper

Just n time
06-16-2008, 10:39 PM
Let's not forget to mention the excess flatus :eek:and the sound effects. That sure can raise the water temps:rotf2:.

BassDawg
06-17-2008, 05:02 AM
You are kidding me, right? (should just hit the ignore button now...)

I, for one, would like to see some pics of your sizable fish, posted here, in a thread of your own.

For me, a 19# fish can be a big fish, when I have been fortunate to get it after catching many smaller, even sub-legal fish. It's all relative. We're not all destined to get a 50, 40, or even a 30# fish.

All this chestbeating is Bullchit. That's a nice fish. Congrats.

i never said that it wasn't a Decent fish,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

just not what I would consider BIG/LAHHHHGE.
that is a sweet belly-filler, but not a big striped bass, imho.

and yes, i have caught several in that size range and 1 fish over 30#,
with this only being my third full year of surfcasting................
not chest beating, only offering my opinion. for me large does not start
until 30# and up, ask around ~~i think others would agree :uhuh: :uhuh:

while i respect your opinion, nightfighter, i will respectfully disagree
with your relativity/subjectivity interpretation of what is LAHHHGE.
my point is stated in Slingah's new Thread upon the subject.

how's yer neck these days?
still mighty finicky on the Other Cape.
hoping for some heat to provide for sum settling in up North.
seen some schoolies being caught at the Mags at first light, Sun.

Slipknot
06-17-2008, 07:33 AM
Yep, always a good time on the goodskiff lollipop. Very relaxing no stress, no pressure atmosphere. Just casting plugs for fish to eat:fishin: and good times.
Warm water, cool water,dark water ,deep water, shallow water, it's all good.










i never said that it wasn't a Decent fish,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

just not what I would consider BIG/LAHHHHGE.
that is a sweet belly-filler, but not a big striped bass, imho.

.

:huh:
you wouldn't?

well big and large are 2 different catagories according to the other thread and your reply. You said since when is a 25 lb bass big, I guess you need to change your definition you wrote yourself then. If you want to be taken seriously, you may want to be consistent with your posts. Some people are nit pickers ;)



my own scale goes a li'l sumthin' like this:
0" - 28" ;;;; schoolie
28" - 30#;;; rats to big bass
30# - 40#;; LAHHHHGE
40# - 50#;; SLOB
50# - 60#;; TROPHY
60# - 70#;; COW
70# - 80#;; IGFA World Record
80# - 90#;; MONSTAHH
90# - 100#; FISH OF A LIFETIME

those are the goals for me, so far so good,
and i LOVE the challenge and the mindset that
is required to not settle, and TO go for sum Big Gurls.

rats to [U]big[U] bass = 28" to 30 lbs. I think 25 lbs falls in that area towards the upper end and a 25 pound bass is no slouch so if it can't be a rat, it must be big.

conclusion = 25 pound bass are big

RIJIMMY
06-17-2008, 07:44 AM
i never said that it wasn't a Decent fish,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

just not what I would consider BIG/LAHHHHGE.
that is a sweet belly-filler, but not a big striped bass, imho.

and yes, i have caught several in that size range and 1 fish over 30#,
with this only being my third full year of surfcasting................
not chest beating, only offering my opinion. for me large does not start
until 30# and up, ask around ~~i think others would agree :uhuh: :uhuh:

while i respect your opinion, nightfighter, i will respectfully disagree
with your relativity/subjectivity interpretation of what is LAHHHGE.
my point is stated in Slingah's new Thread upon the subject.

how's yer neck these days?
still mighty finicky on the Other Cape.
hoping for some heat to provide for sum settling in up North.
seen some schoolies being caught at the Mags at first light, Sun.

hmmm, last time it was several over 30.....show us the pics

BassDawg
06-17-2008, 05:45 PM
thanks for your interest, slip

just to clarify my, and that is the key word here, my
category that seems to befuddle you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

rats to big bass means simply that there are two ends of the spectrum within that particular classification.

imho, 28# - 30# is a big bass and not 25, 26, nor 27#.
and if you were paying attention i began the
Lahhhge category at 30#+,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,nitpick if you must,
it's only an opinion and personal goals that i've set for myself

RIJIMMY,
still crying for pix of every feesh i've ever landed???
have you got pix of ALL of yer Stripers???
this year there will be plenty to post, the wifey and i
gave ourselves the Stylus 790SW for Xmas last year :uhuh: :uhuh:.

shore hope i'll be able to fill the memory card, the fridge,
and some certified scales up around the Cape of Ann ~way :bl: :bl:
digital should at least make it more frequent, and better quality.

Slipknot
06-17-2008, 06:03 PM
25#'er is a BIG Bass???

:huh: :huh: :huh:

since WHEN???

OK, but your question was about big bass in this thread

the one about large is slinah's thread

so in conclusion, 25 lb bass is a big bass, don't you agree now?

Flaptail
06-17-2008, 06:31 PM
This fish was caught in three feet of water on ten pound test braid on a six inch sluggo, one of many that size over the last two weeks, how would you rate it as compared to cuaght on 30/50 lb braid and a sixty pound leader and a plug?

Flaptail
06-17-2008, 06:33 PM
BTW my rating system has only one level for this: fun.

mrstriper
06-17-2008, 06:35 PM
I would take that fun all day!!!!!!!!!!

numbskull
06-17-2008, 07:44 PM
This fish was caught in three feet of water on ten pound test braid on a six inch sluggo, one of many that size over the last two weeks, how would you rate it as compared to cuaght on 30/50 lb braid and a sixty pound leader and a plug?

I'd rate it as a really stupid fish if YOU caught it.

Skitterpop
06-18-2008, 10:30 AM
When seeking whale oil I consider a 25 ft specimen large especially from my dory with harpoon made in Old Rochester.

Skitterpop
06-18-2008, 10:32 AM
This fish was caught in three feet of water on ten pound test braid on a six inch sluggo, one of many that size over the last two weeks, how would you rate it as compared to cuaght on 30/50 lb braid and a sixty pound leader and a plug?



Shirakasan

RIJIMMY
06-18-2008, 10:40 AM
RIJIMMY,
still crying for pix of every feesh i've ever landed???
have you got pix of ALL of yer Stripers???
this year there will be plenty to post, the wifey and i
gave ourselves the Stylus 790SW for Xmas last year :uhuh: :uhuh:.

.

pixs will give you credibility. IMHO you have none and should build some up before making the claims and statement that you do.

BassDawg
06-19-2008, 02:54 AM
OK, but your question was about big bass in this thread

the one about large is slinah's thread

so in conclusion, 25 lb bass is a big bass, don't you agree now?

sorry, slip!
but that was more of a rhetorical
rather than a direct question,,,,,,,,,,

NOPE, to answer yer question!!

it takes 30# to begin to be large, and
i have a very small window for "big".

just a common and easier amount than say 35#+
as the benchmark for Large; because if you do make 35#
the cut off, then it throws everything off from a tenpound
classification system perspective.

however, in the interest of compromise and reasonable discussion,
if we were to agree on BIG as being from 25# to 35#, LAHHHGE from 35# to 50#,
TROPHY from 50# to 78.8#, IGFA from 78.9# to 95#, and MONSTAH from 95#+,
then that does allow for some more wiggle room at the bottom
and it enhances the middle and the top, as well.

simple and clean, and a little more inclusive..................

00# to 24# ~~ rats/dinks/schoolies
25# to 35# ~~ Biggs
35# to 50# ~~ Lahhhge
50# to 78# ~~ Trophy
79# to 95# ~~ IGFA
95# to ???? ~~ Monstah

and i would agree with Nebe, that anything over 50#,
is a Fish of Lifetime. very interesting opinions and thoughts, gents.
hope to be notching sum :bl: bigger :bl: ones this year, and climbing
the scale with consistent and larger catches and releases...........