No realy guess it was weighed in at Westport marine today along with 29 other fish. Average weight for all 30 fish 42 lbs. If this keeps up I think there will be a new all time set this year or next !!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to be negative but 30 dead big fish in one haul. Nice - :mad:. If that's true and all these big fish kills keep up I'm afraid there will be no fish left in the near future.

Is this an official fish?

Sorry to be negative but 30 dead big fish in one haul. Nice - :mad:. If that's true and all these big fish kills keep up I'm afraid there will be no fish left in the near future.

I'm negative too, but for a different reason. Without proof, I won't voice my suspicions, though :hs:

No realy guess it was weighed in at Westport marine today along with 29 other fish. Average weight for all 30 fish 42 lbs. If this keeps up I think there will be a new all time set this year or next !!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would you expect it to keep up with all the big fish being killed this year? Congrats to the angler, his skill and luck are to be admired, but the killing of fish of this quality for food use is sad news for the rest of us and illustrates very short sighted fishery policy.

Did they amend the commercial regs to include Mondays in the commercial season? Unless 15 different recreational anglers weighed in fish in Westport today for a 42# average or 6 commercial permits checked in Sunday's catch. :huh: Am I missing something here?

yah, 30 fish weighed in on a Monday? :huh: gotta be comms... or some retired guys REALLY got into them :D

thinking the latter, westport marine is one of two commercial fish dealers I know of in Westport

fish from during the week, some guys stock pile before they sell so they dont have to go to market every trip.
its legal to sell on off days. nice fishy!!!
that guy is making a killing.

Did they amend the commercial regs to include Mondays in the commercial season? Unless 15 different recreational anglers weighed in fish in Westport today for a 42# average or 6 commercial permits checked in Sunday's catch. :huh: Am I missing something here?

You're not missing anything--Monday is a closed day and Sunday is a 5 fish day.

Unless I'm mistaken, you can't sell Sunday fish on a Monday.

fish from sunday night im guessing...comm.
its legal to sell on off days. nice fishy!!!
that guy is making a killing.

I could be wrong about this, but I don't think it's legal to possess more than 5 fish on a Sunday. "Ice fishing", while a time-honored commercial tradition, happens to be illegal.

You can't possess a commercial limit on a closed day, the way I read the regs. And you clearly can't sell fish on closed days.

(d) Commercial fishermen engaged in striped bass fishing may not possess or land more than 30 striped bass per day on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays and 5 striped bass per day on Sundays during the open season. This limit applies to any individual fishermen fishing from shore or to any vessel regardless of the number of individual licensed commercial fishermen aboard.

k) Commercial fishermen shall sell striped bass only during the commercial season and only during the open fishing days within the commercial season.

something is fishy here,,, i think Mike's a comm fisherman

It wouldn't surprize me if Bob Sirois(Got stripes)...maybe a little

something is fishy here,,, i think Mike's a comm fisherman

I havn't sold fish since 1982!


Strictly a C&R fisherman now.

Getting back to the original post :bl:, is there a new Mass 76 or is Greggy-Poo having a little fun :wavey:

Getting back to the original post :bl:, is there a new Mass 76 or is Greggy-Poo having a little fun :wavey:


Greggy-Poo???????????

Getting back to the original post :bl:, is there a new Mass 76 or is Greggy-Poo having a little fun :wavey:

He's reporting a catch from last Thursday, I believe. Not sure about the 76# fish, but my first hand account said it was 19 fish @42# average. Same weigh station.

He's reporting a catch from last Thursday, I believe. Not sure about the 76# fish, but my first hand account said it was 19 fish @42# average. Same weigh station.

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/showthread.php?t=50542
you mean this catch Back Beach?

could be

anyway

I'm not gonna guess who, but if true, congrats to that guy as long as it was caught with rod and reel.

I havn't sold fish since 1982!


Strictly a C&R fisherman now.

He was talking about this Mike ;)

I wonder, though, whether the fish came from Mass waters, or whether it was taken off the Block. The way I understand how these things work, if the fish was brought to port in Mass, it qualifies for a Mass record. I think that many of the state records up and down the coast were caught offshore beyond state waters--swordfish, certain sharks, yellowfin, marlin and so on.

I just found the 30 fish part suspicious, because the way Greg worded his post, it sounded like one guy with a Tuesday-Thursday comm limit landing them on a Monday :confused:

He lack of come back make me think he is yankin

all ri fish no doubt.. :wall:

He lack of come back make me think he is yankin


He may be "yankin" because he thinks its funny and likes to play with some of us a little (some of us have known and liked Greg for a while) but he has also over time been right on the money with a lot of "rumors" emanating from that part of the state. The lack of comeback is probably just that he posts a handful of times a month at Oh Dark Thirty and then goes of too work - not in front of a computer all day :tooth: . Seriously though, Greg is real good people (when he is not being cranky :deadhorse::lm::bshake:).

Not to change the subject, guess I did, but is Bob Sirois still alive and around? Sorry.

all ri fish no doubt.. :wall:

I'm not going to point fingers at anyone--and especially not the guy involved here with this fish--but I suspect that there are more than a few RI fish hitting the Mass markets since our season opened :doh:

Not to change the subject, guess I did, but is Bob Sirois still alive and around? Sorry.

Yeh, just talked to him this weekend, he forgot his password ;)

yeah he's around but you won't find him on land. John, i didn't know he had a puter on his console???

I'm not going to point fingers at anyone--and especially not the guy involved here with this fish--but I suspect that there are more than a few RI fish hitting the Mass markets since our season opened :doh:

That crap needs to stop. :cens:

That crap needs to stop. :cens:

It costs less for a non-resident commercial license, with the striped bass endorsement, than it does for a non-resident recreational shellfish license in my town :doh:

There's a better chance of getting hit by lightning than there is of getting caught. A boat with 30 bass has to be caught in RI waters by their DEM, or it has to be seen crossing into Mass waters by our EPOs with a load of fish. Once they're in Mass waters on an open day, they're untouchable.

RI angler fishing Mass waters. A great fisherman who has won the Schaefer Cup. He had not had a 50# in nine years and then got 4 in one morning.

RI angler fishing Mass waters. A great fisherman who has won the Schaefer Cup. He had not had a 50# in nine years and then got 4 in one morning.

Good for him.
Good for his family.
Bad for the fishery.
Bad for us.
Bad for the MA commercials.
Probably bad for BI. Taxes are high in Massachusetts.
So it goes.

:1poke:

RI angler fishing Mass waters. A great fisherman who has won the Schaefer Cup. He had not had a 50# in nine years and then got 4 in one morning.
Do tell..
CS?

Not for nuttin, there are a lot of RI commercials fishing Mass waters and this has been historically the case. As current regs/allocations are based on "historic" landings, and "historically" a fair amount of RI anglers have always fished Mass commercial (believe it or not in Mass waters), it is not unreasonable to see RI anglers fish the Mass season.

its halarious rhody comms can take what 6 ri fish daily.

Mass guys come in and take 30 rhody fish.

It would stand to reason that rhody comms make a move to bag it and ban rhody comm fishing for stripers so the mass guys cant pick their pockets, or have the mass dailys lowered so the mass guys cant pick their pockets.

I dunno I guess everyone believes that a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow. I'm not into the comm. striper fishery :happy: its senseless...


rhody comms getting short changed and their pockets picked by the mass guys should make a move to ban comm. striper fishing in ri water Period. Go get their 6 pack licenses and run 2 or 3 charters a day. The dough from charters would CRUSH what they get for killing their 6 fish :read: Oh wait I put 3 seconds of thought into that didnt I..... Ohhh and if they run lobster traps, they can bait traps, go to dock pick up charter go out, come back drop off pick up charter go out, drop off the last charter check traps... ohhh wow I wonder if a day like that would put more dough in pockets than killing 6 fish LOL ha. hahahhahahaha

rhody comms getting short changed and their pockets picked by the mass guys should make a move to ban comm. striper fishing in ri water Period. Go get their 6 pack licenses and run 2 or 3 charters a day. The dough from charters would CRUSH what they get for killing their 6 fish :read: Oh wait I put 3 seconds of thought into that didnt I..... Ohhh and if they run lobster traps, they can bait traps, go to dock pick up charter go out, come back drop off pick up charter go out, drop off the last charter check traps... ohhh wow I wonder if a day like that would put more dough in pockets than killing 6 fish LOL ha. hahahhahahaha

Fuel prices are killing the small charter biz guys..

Who set the record? :huh:

Fuel prices are killing the small charter biz guys..

If half of them weren't running twin 250's WOT half the time they might save a few bucks. ;)

Intro statement...I gave up my comm license for personal reasons years ago

Let's not forget the fact that many RI residents hold a RI License and a MA Comm License. Using Throwing Timbers term, these anglers can land/sell 6 fish in RI and 30 fish in MA essentially picking their own pockets. On the other hand, a MA resident can not go to RI and get a RI comm license (unless that has changed in the last couple years). Although I agree that crossing state waters to get either limit should not be allowed, I am far more concerned with all of the S-B fishing going on in the EEZ by anglers from and in the waters off both states.

Oh well...I just wanted to throw in that comment...I have to get ready for the MA Recreational Registry Steering Committee Meeting this affternoon. Oh goody.

Intro statement...I gave up my comm license for personal reasons years ago

Let's not forget the fact that many RI residents hold a RI License and a MA Comm License. Using Throwing Timbers term, these anglers can land/sell 6 fish in RI and 30 fish in MA essentially picking their own pockets. On the other hand, a MA resident can not go to RI and get a RI comm license (unless that has changed in the last couple years). Although I agree that crossing state waters to get either limit should not be allowed, I am far more concerned with all of the S-B fishing going on in the EEZ by anglers from and in the waters off both states.

Oh well...I just wanted to throw in that comment...I have to get ready for the MA Recreational Registry Steering Committee Meeting this affternoon. Oh goody.


I was going to make that point about Mass comms not being able to get a RI license. I believe in reciprocity--up to a point. When I can't get licensed to do something in your state, you shouldn't be able to do it in mine.

But since I don't hold a Mass comm license (sorry, Goose ;) ), it's not my fight. If I had one, you bet your ass I'd be screaming to DMF to not issue licenses to out-of-staters. RI doesn't offer reciprocity, and NH, Maine and CT are gamefish states. I wonder how many people who pushed gamefish for their own states hold a Mass commercial license?

As far as the EEZ goes--I personally don't care. 1.1 million pounds is 1.1 million pounds no matter where the fish come from. It gets filled every year in less than 6 weeks. If taking fish from the EEZ fills the quota sooner, so be it. If guys are raiding RI waters and take the fish to Mass to sell, so be it. The inshore Mass fishery probably benefits from it. But, since it's the law, I don't condone it.

How about setting a three or four fish per day limit for out of state comm. license holders.This would eliminate alot of the hanky panky that's going on especially stock piling and tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g fish from out of state waters.They need to make it financially unfeasable for wrong doers to operate without hurting the legit guys.Just my two cents worth.

How about setting a three or four fish per day limit for out of state comm. license holders.This would eliminate alot of the hanky panky that's going on especially stock piling and tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g fish from out of state waters.They need to make it financially unfeasable for wrong doers to operate without hurting the legit guys.Just my two cents worth.

How?
All they do is stuff them in a freezer and wait anyhow.

Alllow only three or four to be sold per day,maybe open sale days every other or every third day for out of staters.

Alllow only three or four to be sold per day,maybe open sale days every other or every third day for out of staters.

So they high grade and only sell the big ones out of the freezer and hock the rest at the local chinese food joint.

Which is pretty much what they do already...

Make it a gamefish with no sale! You can always pump gas or serve burgers at McTomaines for xtra cash!

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! :devil2::hidin:

Make it a gamefish with no sale! You can always pump gas or serve burgers at McTomaines for xtra cash!

Well when there's no more fish then where are all the "oh i do it to offset my gas costs" comms gonna get their money?

And yes, I'd like fries with that.

Christ, I always thought this was a winter sport - guess the season is going long this year :rolleyes:

Christ, I always thought this was a winter sport - guess the season is going long this year :rolleyes:


:agree::agree::agree: :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

The Mass quota is/was based on [OLD] landings >>> which were made up by a good percentage of Ri Anglers /selling in mass // otherwise the Mass quota wouldn,t be 30 fish on the days that,s its open & the 5 on sunday ;;

many moons ago > you just caught fish & sold them /only restricting was they had to be 16"
you didn,t need a commercial license in either state ;;

NOW {{ MASS }} still allows you to get a license // to anyone one from any state / one reason there are approx 6000 mass commercials ;;
In RI you CAN>T get a Commercial license to catch anything .......
they have one lincense available / which allows you to catch /some no value fish //bluefish . dabs, etc.

SOOOOOOOOOO its not just the Mass commercials that can,t get the license /its ANYBODY .>>>>>>>>>
the only way to get a RI license is >..supposely if 3 or 4 are not renewed in a given year the state mat opt to open one >..even though I,ve never heard of it ::
The other way is to buy a guys business / boat / pots , etc &&&& only if he has enough landings ;;

there are hundreds of fisherman who are kicking themselves in the ass for not keeping their licenses during the mo[SP} not just R/R but mainly shellfisherman ;;

Also RI season is a joke / it open is open 5 days a week w/a 5 fish limit stating in june / &&&&&&& every year the state of RI closes it early //[this year] less than two weeks / because the estimate that we are nearing the quota // [f%^&*() guessestimate

Then they open for 3 days around labor day ...with only a 3 fish limit && then close again 7 open sometime in october with either a 3 or 5 fish limit & THAT DEPENDS if the fish god got laid the nite before ;; &&&&&&&&&&& In the last 3 seasons / the RI limit was not reached by R/R .. the let the traps & draggers finish it off ;;


With this being said .. Mass has the larger quota thanks to many old time RI commercial fisherman & the mass commercial season is a f $%^&*()&^ zoo because the state lets anyone with the money become a commercial fisherman ;;

take all the fish solf in the RI & Mass commercial seasons && it doesn,t equal #^&#^&#^&#^&-%$%$%$%$ to the by-catch kill/rec >.take home & bucket brigrade ;;
add the slaughter that goes on down south in the winter fishery ....... & this whole thread isn,t a drop in the f $%^&*()(*& bucket >:wid:

The Mass quota is/was based on [OLD] landings >>> which were made up by a good percentage of Ri Anglers /selling in mass // otherwise the Mass quota wouldn,t be 30 fish on the days that,s its open & the 5 on sunday ;;

many moons ago > you just caught fish & sold them /only restricting was they had to be 16"
you didn,t need a commercial license in either state ;;

NOW {{ MASS }} still allows you to get a license // to anyone one from any state / one reason there are approx 6000 mass commercials ;;
In RI you CAN>T get a Commercial license to catch anything .......
they have one lincense available / which allows you to catch /some no value fish //bluefish . dabs, etc.

SOOOOOOOOOO its not just the Mass commercials that can,t get the license /its ANYBODY .>>>>>>>>>
the only way to get a RI license is >..supposely if 3 or 4 are not renewed in a given year the state mat opt to open one >..even though I,ve never heard of it ::
The other way is to buy a guys business / boat / pots , etc &&&& only if he has enough landings ;;

there are hundreds of fisherman who are kicking themselves in the ass for not keeping their licenses during the mo[SP} not just R/R but mainly shellfisherman ;;

Also RI season is a joke / it open is open 5 days a week w/a 5 fish limit stating in june / &&&&&&& every year the state of RI closes it early //[this year] less than two weeks / because the estimate that we are nearing the quota // [f%^&*() guessestimate

Then they open for 3 days around labor day ...with only a 3 fish limit && then close again 7 open sometime in october with either a 3 or 5 fish limit & THAT DEPENDS if the fish god got laid the nite before ;; &&&&&&&&&&& In the last 3 seasons / the RI limit was not reached by R/R .. the let the traps & draggers finish it off ;;


With this being said .. Mass has the larger quota thanks to many old time RI commercial fisherman & the mass commercial season is a f $%^&*()&^ zoo because the state lets anyone with the money become a commercial fisherman ;;

take all the fish solf in the RI & Mass commercial seasons && it doesn,t equal #^&#^&#^&#^&-%$%$%$%$ to the by-catch kill/rec >.take home & bucket brigrade ;;
add the slaughter that goes on down south in the winter fishery ....... & this whole thread isn,t a drop in the f $%^&*()(*& bucket >:wid:

:rtfm:Truer words have yet to be spoken! Add piss to the right and Mikey nailed it.

Hey Mike, hope your doing okay! Kill a bluefish for me, we haven't seen that many up this way ( don't want to make you jealous or anything but I have only caught four all season so far!)

:rtfm:Truer words have yet to be spoken! Add piss to the right and Mikey nailed it.

Err, that's kinda what I was trying to say but I wasn't as detailed, clear, or eloquent as Clammer :lama::fishslap: :hee:

Just to add a little clarity on a point that was skirted around.As far as reciprocity goes,there are NO NEW PERMITS in RI.It doesn't matter if you're from RI,Mass,or South Dakota.

With all due respect MIke--historical landing figures are just someone's best guess. As many New Yorkers as Rhode Islanders fished Mass. No one was licensed, no catch figures were ever accurately recorded, most of the bass was shipped to Fulton Fish market, and guessing what the distribution was among Mass/RI/NY/CT/anywhere else.....:huh:

MIKE

your right .. the NY boys did a number in the surf on the cape //

what I meant was , Mass, RI, NY or Conn fishmen sold most of thire fish to mass dealers . the guys fishing the outer cape .. really had no rational choice / && I., pretty sure CoNn had already started to stop the sale of bass in that state & we in RI .it was strictly a finincial [sp] move . Mass was paying much higher than RI .
you could go to Spooners in westport & get good money & wait for the check && then many of us got nailed by the IRS .. or you could go to N/B & get paid less /but got paid on the spot ;
So when they were figuring out the quota,s //mass was way high to some degree of the infux of fish caught out of state & sold in Mass>>>
&&&&&&&& ya had to piss to the right >><><

Re; the original question.The Fisherman Mag. Under Snug Harbor reports two guys with a hefty catch from the Vineyard 40,41,45,48,49,52,and 53.Are they the same guys or is it just a coincidence?

SOOOOOOO....Who was it already!!?????

Fish2

I havn,t read that yet / but I,ll bet my rig /those arn,t MAss BAss ....... many of the mass commercials are fluking .. the bass have been WAAAAAAAY off ><><><

add the slaughter that goes on down south in the winter fishery ....... & this whole thread isn,t a drop in the f $%^&*()(*& bucket >:wid:

It doesn't matter how many or how few.

Someone has to take a stand somewhere.

If you're just gonna sit back with the "well everyone else is doing it" excuse then you're just another part of the problem.

but I suspect that there are more than a few RI fish hitting the Mass markets since our season opened :doh:


ya think? I don't understand the logic in this ruling. They can fish in our season but we can't sell into there's? MA DMF is F'ed up.

If you saw how much RI bunker is dumped into Gay Head waters you would be amazed...truck loads....every comm day.

Fish2

I havn,t read that yet / but I,ll bet my rig /those arn,t MAss BAss ....... many of the mass commercials are fluking .. the bass have been WAAAAAAAY off ><><><


It's waaaay off cause they have been pounding the same spots HARD for years! ...Commer'l guys just don't get it. Some have the gaul to complain about the fishing. Gimmeabreak I spoke to a comm lobersterman who was whining about how poor the lobsters are and wants to double the number of pots he has....I asked him...do you think that will solve the problem?...He said, that will solve MY problem. Herein lies the real problem.

Many RI anglers will fish MA for fluke and then move right on for bass. The angler is a member of team striper in the OTW contest. I think the 56# will squeak into the top 10. That combined with another members' recent shore caught 48# should put us in good position for now.

Sea Dangles, That should make Bruce happy!

Oh Ya,Can't you at least give the initals.DF,RJ,BGWho then?

I'm confused now, was it 76 pounds or 56 pounds?

I guess maybe this thread strayed off course.

maybe Greg was just yanking us a bit

so, now we got people bragging about catching the same fish in two different states. that block island has some big fish.....

Wow has this rumor/story grown. Last week @ said fish house I am told by a worker of a nice catch of 17 fish, 3 over 50#, with a 42 # average. Now it's 30 fish 76# whopper. Fish stories. If that catch is real and from the Vineyard, fantastic catch of big fish doing what few/no others are doing right now. Can't wait to see who the angler(s) is. Team Striper is kickin ass. Art

Many RI anglers will fish MA for fluke and then move right on for bass. The angler is a member of team striper in the OTW contest. I think the 56# will squeak into the top 10. That combined with another members' recent shore caught 48# should put us in good position for now.

Unless things pick up for our North Shore members, I'd say you guys are in a good position, period. ;)

Especially if you keep paying off those sharks to chop TOs fish when he's with you guys :laugha:

Not to change the subject, guess I did, but is Bob Sirois still alive and around? Sorry.

Yeah I'm still around, but you wouldn't see me weighing in any large. First I don't have a commercial license, I've never felt I wanted to contribute to the decline of the fishery. I keep my fair share of the small keepers for the grille throughout the season, but the larger breeders I release. The exception might be if it were state record size, that old girl probably isn't breeding and that's a fish I think everyone keeps.

I don't post much anymore, I don't have the free time I used to and what's the point; some things just don't ever change.

Hi Bob:wave:
I can coroborate however you spell that, that Bob does indeed release the breaders and he is alive, last time we fished he pulls up to a spot and bangs a 30 pounder first cast while I get bluefished :hs:
Thanks again for that trip Bob, I hope you had a good vacation fishing with your brother in law.
Let's go again sometime

Yeah I'm still around, but you wouldn't see me weighing in any large. First I don't have a commercial license, I've never felt I wanted to contribute to the decline of the fishery. I keep my fair share of the small keepers for the grille throughout the season, but the larger breeders I release. The exception might be if it were state record size, that old girl probably isn't breeding and that's a fish I think everyone keeps.

I don't post much anymore, I don't have the free time I used to and what's the point; some things just don't ever change.

Hi Bob :wave:

Good to see ya around, glad to hear you're still above ground :hihi:

Just found this info about the 2007 Mass comm. fishing for stripers on the ASMFC site:

Massachusetts 34” min.
Hook & line only
998,063 lb. Quota
7.12 until quota reached
5 fish on Sun, 30 fish/day Tues-Thurs

What is the 2008 quota?

Thanks,

Woody

1.1 million lbs
Its on the DMF
http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dmf/commercialfishing/quota_index.htm#frame

Thanks
W

Good to hear you're still alive and kicking Bob. I'm still enjoying the hell out of that rod.:thanks: The kid still has a large tote of your rubber that we still use.

all kids should use rubbers ><><:lurk:

Looks like we have to wait till next week to see who the luckey angler was.OTW is a week behind in their postings for the Striper Cup??????

Looks like they updated today. We were bumped to 6th, risaa didn't move, and team striper extended their lead. no sign of a 70 yet.http://img200.exs.cx/img200/7135/eyebrow1qb.gif

The word "avarice" comes to mind.
"Take only what you need."