I ask that ya'll take a moment of silence to honor my fish killing weapon as it has died. my arra 1205 exploded casting a 3 ounce ronz tonite. not happy bout it. gonna be a battle with any type of warranty as I bought the blank at m&d's but cms built it for me last oct. gonna miss her. have spent more timefondling her than I have my wife. rip betty.

Warranty, scmarranty! Did you get your moneys worth out of Betty? I am thinking....yup! Move on and find another!:kewl:

Sorry for your loss Mike.....I know you two were close.

BB and Numby will tell ya with Big words no one understands..
It broke because You where not throwing a eel with it..

WTF. :smash: Again?

Time to break out the 2 piece St. Croix. Its the only thing you can't break..

Mike.
I understand.
if my 1201M dies a similar death I will be a most unhappy fellow...

The rod should be buried on Cuttyhunk. Will there be a service?

Mine did the same thing....nice rod otherwise.
Personally they did not honor the warranty, they said "this rod was crushed" which is total BS.

Customer service is everything to me...and they really disappointed me. Maybe you will have better luck.

cremate it and keep the ashes with you.

Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you got your money's worth though.

I'd think the blank would be covered. I'd expect you will have to pay someone to re-wrap it. You might want to look at the SSU1201MH blank as well. A bit slower than the 1205 but faster than the 1201m. Casts VERY well in the 2-4oz range and handles fish in bad terrain nicely. The 1205 built conventional is still my favorite rod (the SSU I built is a spinner :yak4:). Fortunately, I'm too decrepit to break one casting.

R.I.P. Betty

At times like this there is nothing one can really say that will make a difference. In an effort to make an atempt at offering some sort of comfort, please remember she died doing what she was made for and in the end, there has to be some peace in that!!!!!

You might want to look at the SSU1201MH blank as well. A bit slower than the 1205 but faster than the 1201m.

I have both, and they are my favorite sticks...
SSU1201MH Spin
1201M Convench

Love them equally, the action is just about identical....

Taps are playing as the sun rises over BI and Cutty. Another good soldier has crossed over to that other ocean with those other set of tides.

RIP and sorry for your loss.

I am sure that all of the good memories you have of her will be of comfort to you during your time of mourning.

another broken ron arra? :(

I'd think the blank would be covered. I'd expect you will have to pay someone to re-wrap it. You might want to look at the SSU1201MH blank as well. A bit slower than the 1205 but faster than the 1201m. Casts VERY well in the 2-4oz range and handles fish in bad terrain nicely. The 1205 built conventional is still my favorite rod (the SSU I built is a spinner :yak4:). Fortunately, I'm too decrepit to break one casting.

Wow Numby good call. I agree with you 100 percent. Next thing you know you'll be buying octopus hooks and elvers.

Will be building an SSU120MH soon for myself. Still fishing a conventional 1205 with a 229 newell on it. Levelwinds of any kind are for girls and non athletes.:angel:

2 important questions in this matter

1. did you have a backup in the vehicle...or was the trip a bust?

2. were you into fish?

sorry to hear about the loss...sounds like betty treated you well....especially in the past month or so

Arras suck, they have always had to be handled with kid gloves and there is and was always the thought that this thing is a time bomb that could blow any minute, the history of that series of blanks prioves out that fact. I ve personally seen at least a 1/2 dozen blow up on different guys while fishing.

Just that experience always kept me away from them, imagine being on the beach, you just walked several miles from a parking lot, you find fish, thier willing, you land a couple, your buddy lands a couple it's a hit each time your offering lands in the water and blam! Your next cast your precious Arra blows up. Thats a comforting thought isn't it?

It was enough to disuade me. Ive got a couple lami blanks that I beat the snot out of, one GLB1081M is over 25 years old and it still reacts like the day I built it and it has cuaght 1000's of bass of all sizes. The Arra series has issues and is not trustworthy.

No wonder Lamiglas is pushing this new series.

Like BigFish Larry said, move on, there are better blanks out there.

Youn may fire when ready.

Redlight Was your rod spin or conventional?

I ask that ya'll take a moment of silence to honor my fish killing weapon as it has died. my arra 1205 exploded casting a 3 ounce ronz tonite. not happy bout it. gonna be a battle with any type of warranty as I bought the blank at m&d's but cms built it for me last oct. gonna miss her. have spent more timefondling her than I have my wife. rip betty.


Schools of large mamas are now able to slip past your UDL's without hindrance and delight in the opportunity by smashing large bait 25 feet from shore.

You may fire when ready.

I've never had an issue with either of mine.:huh:

Arras suck, they have always had to be handled with kid gloves and there is and was always the thought that this thing is a time bomb that could blow any minute, the history of that series of blanks prioves out that fact. I ve personally seen at least a 1/2 dozen blow up on different guys while fishing.

Just that experience always kept me away from them, imagine being on the beach, you just walked several miles from a parking lot, you find fish, thier willing, you land a couple, your buddy lands a couple it's a hit each time your offering lands in the water and blam! Your next cast your precious Arra blows up. Thats a comforting thought isn't it?.....The Arra series has issues and is not trustworthy.

.

"If you want to be happy for the rest of your life,
make an ugly woman your wife......"

Nothing risked, nothing gained. Arra's may trade toughness for lightness and response, but they sure are fun to fish. The enjoyment they add to fishing, trip after trip, is not insignificant and well worth the occassional failure in my mind.

"If you want to be happy for the rest of your life,
make an ugly woman your wife......"

Nothing risked, nothing gained. Arra's may trade toughness for lightness and response, but they sure are fun to fish. The enjoyment they add to fishing, trip after trip, is not insignificant and well worth the occassional failure in my mind.

Risk assessment being part of my job leads me to stay away from something that though it may be light and responsive does not make good fiscal sense in the investment factor when it cannot provide total peace of mind which is why I fish and need equipment I can trust to work other than the car door or the misplaced foot incidents.

That sharp report in the night and occasional blue flash when they go may be exciting but I assure you if it happens to you, and there is the outside chance it may not, but as opposed to other brands of blanks, the risk is higher and documentable as such, you will not really enjoy the lightness and response factor as you once did.

I've never had an issue with either of mine.:huh:

neither have i. but then again im not slaying huge cows like redlite. :kewl:

I've never had an issue with either of mine.:huh:

Neither have I also, and my 1205 is not even being close to "handled with kid gloves". Best all around blank for what I do,out there in my opinion.

Mine lasted 3 years of heavy use before it blew up. I took care of it but I do that will all my gear.

The SSU is very nice a bit more whippy than the arra. It does handle the heavier lures but it doesn't feel like the arra. That said if feels really light! Very comfortable to fish with.


I tell you what I like in that 10' ready-made class, is the St Croix 10' one piece Avid surf series. I bought it when my arra broke and I like it. Great back up to your customs and is the rod I take when I am going to get beat up.

Neither have I also, and my 1205 is not even being close to "handled with kid gloves". Best all around blank for what I do,out there in my opinion.

The other night was the ultimate test for mine when that eel tried to escape. I spiked my 1205 on the rocks like a pigskin and its still kicking.

Mike's rod likely broke due to the fact he used it like a pry bar to move large boulders across his secret parking areas.:musc:

Arras suck, they have always had to be handled with kid gloves and there is and was always the thought that this thing is a time bomb that could blow any minute, the history of that series of blanks prioves out that fact. I ve personally seen at least a 1/2 dozen blow up on different guys while fishing.

Just that experience always kept me away from them, imagine being on the beach, you just walked several miles from a parking lot, you find fish, thier willing, you land a couple, your buddy lands a couple it's a hit each time your offering lands in the water and blam! Your next cast your precious Arra blows up. Thats a comforting thought isn't it?

It was enough to disuade me. Ive got a couple lami blanks that I beat the snot out of, one GLB1081M is over 25 years old and it still reacts like the day I built it and it has cuaght 1000's of bass of all sizes. The Arra series has issues and is not trustworthy.

No wonder Lamiglas is pushing this new series.

Like BigFish Larry said, move on, there are better blanks out there.

Youn may fire when ready.


No one can accuse you not speaking your mind Steve. :laughs:

I don`t know near enough to agree or disagree but have faith in your knowledge. Hopefully others will chime in ,as I am ,and I`m sure others would be most interested in this topic.

3 oz Ronz is actually 4.5 oz casting weight.... what is that blank able to throw? I have a 1084 Arra and it is fun to fish, but I know it has limitations too. Bought it used, in mint shape and cheap. That helps. Got it to throw lighter stuff, bombers, sluggos and 1-2.5 oz plugs. Anyway.. just wondering what the 1205 can do.

Anyway.. just wondering what the 1205 can do.

I have thrown 6.5oz with mine, but 3-4oz Ronz and Sluggs are right in the sweet spot.

3 oz Ronz is actually 4.5 oz casting weight.... what is that blank able to throw? I have a 1084 Arra and it is fun to fish, but I know it has limitations too. Bought it used, in mint shape and cheap. That helps. Got it to throw lighter stuff, bombers, sluggos and 1-2.5 oz plugs. Anyway.. just wondering what the 1205 can do.

this rod will throw 5 comfortably, infact i know a few guys at the canal who do use this rod as their "jigging" rod although it is known to many as a "plugging" rod.

like t.oralando said, and i will have to also say that its sweet spot is 2.5-4oz. :btu:

The other night was the ultimate test for mine when that eel tried to escape.

Hope the poor little fella made it.

Sorry for your loss redlite! :(

I've had a 1322 since 1996, a 126 1MH since 1997, and a 1204 since 1999. They're all still in one piece, and I've fished them as hard as, or harder than, any other rod I own. :huh:

Time bombs? Not in my experience. If you have a bad one it'll break right out of the box. First or second time you fish it. After that? Most of the time people are asking more from it that it can give--it's not a Harnell after all.

mike, i dont think the 126-1mh could break! :err: also never heard of one breaking.

I've had a 1322 since 1996, a 126 1MH since 1997, and a 1204 since 1999. They're all still in one piece, and I've fished them as hard as, or harder than, any other rod I own. :huh:

Time bombs? Not in my experience. If you have a bad one it'll break right out of the box. First or second time you fish it. After that? Most of the time people are asking more from it that it can give--it's not a Harnell after all.

Got two spinning rods Venice California Harnells wrapped them myself still use them occasionally, great balnks. 9 ft ea.

Hope the poor little fella made it.

:laugha:

I actually snared him out of the bubble weed with one hand Wade Boggs style and got him on the hook after a bit of a struggle. Within seconds of hitting the water a 27# fish engulfed him. :fishin: :angel:

:laugha:

I actually snared him out of the bubble weed with one hand Wade Boggs style and got him on the hook after a bit of a struggle. Within seconds of hitting the water a 27# fish engulfed him. :fishin: :angel:

Thoughts and prayers to his family.

Great rods but they do have a history of breaking more often than many others. I don't think this can be argued. Further, Lamiglass knows this and is very "selective" about issuing any kind of replacement blank.

I like the Gloomis policy...they charge you 50 bucks and you get a tube in the mail the next day with a new rod in it. You then put your busted rod in the tube and send it back prepaid. Deal done.
For the lower end, many Tsunimi rods have an over-the-counter replacement policy and I hear shimano is doing this with their new surf rod blanks which they say are nearly unbreakable. Lami they may or may not issue a warranty replacement and good luck trying to convince them it broke while fishing if they deem it wasn't.
Further, I think the Arra rods while nice are no longer state of the art tackle. They are decade old technology. A lot has changed in 10 years. I think you will see them phased out.

talked to cms. they said they will warranty it as they built it and it is less than year old......we'll see how it goes...

After walking all the way to the end of Cuddy Island last year and fishing for 20 min mine snapped in the middle of a cast received credit for the blank was a longggggggggg walk back to the club house

I built a 1205 for myself and it's the best rod I ever had.I've thrown big pogy chunks with a 3 oz egg and a 1 1/2 oz Butterfish lure with it and it works very well. Sometimes if you stumble and the rod hits a rock it will get nicked and then later on when it is stressed with a fish it can break, and you don't even remember hitting anything with it earlier. Anyways I like mine .

talked to cms. they said they will warranty it as they built it and it is less than year old......we'll see how it goes...

Good. CMS has always honored the stuff they build. Remember my buddy John who returned 5 or 6 sabre blanks? Ultimately they determined the blanks were no good, but honored the stuff built by them without question prior to dropping the sabre product line.

Got two spinning rods Venice California Harnells wrapped them myself still use them occasionally, great balnks. 9 ft ea.

Closest thing there is to an unbreakable fishing rod (including the much vaunted Ugly Stik, whose reputation exceeds reality). Every so often I take my 10' 542 out for a night--although the Squidder it once held has been replaced by a 525 mag.

My standard Lamiglas 1321L and 1M graphite blanks can no longer compete with the technical advancements I see in friend Numbskull's rods and blanks. But I have never broken one of these; I still have the first of these I ever bought. They have been stripped down and rewrapped three or four times. I use these blanks spinning and conventional. Finally, the nuance differencees of the rod all disappear under the strain of a 30 pound bass; or, in the case of Numby, when his plug is hung up on another lobster pot in the middle of the night.

Maybe blanks are like cars.Ones built on Monday and Friday are NG..My 1322 looks like Jerry Cheevers mask.Lots of good times like a old friend.I guess it's like crapshoot to see if you get a good one.Could never pull the trigger on the 1205 to fast for me.If I lived at the ditch I might use it on lighter nights.I just like the slower action of the 1322.I always wanted to build a 10'er out of one cutting it in the butt.Then I think it would be very close to my 120 1M..And I don't do it.:tooth:

talked to cms. they said they will warranty it as they built it and it is less than year old......we'll see how it goes...


Good for you..Now your only out the time it takes em to make ya one.
What's ur back up rod??

My standard Lamiglas 1321L and 1M graphite blanks can no longer compete with the technical advancements I see in friend Numbskull's rods and blanks. But I have never broken one of these; I still have the first of these I ever bought. They have been stripped down and rewrapped three or four times. I use these blanks spinning and conventional. Finally, the nuance differencees of the rod all disappear under the strain of a 30 pound bass; or, in the case of Numby, when his plug is hung up on another lobster pot in the middle of the night.


This is ballbustin major going on here..
It is so good to see.:humpty::hihi:

Whats the best fiberglass eel blank ? I've seen Redlite and Max getting knocked off the boulders by the surf .. One night Redlite had the surf push his face into a boulder and Max completely lost his rod and reel in the surf until the next morning .. No hype .. I'm not going to compare thier fishing experience to mine . A $35 ferry ride oneway .$40 worth of eels ... walk a few miles ,, then start swimming ,,and crank cows. Would really suc to have the blank blow up 1st cast ... I'd think durabilty would be #1 .. This is an awful lot to ask of any blank .. I watched them 30 minutes and saw both of them get thrown like bubble weed 10 times easy .. you guys should be test pilots.. Lamiglas !!!!!!! If your listening .... Put these guys on your pro team and give them free blanks ..

I have a 542 and a sb 120 3m.
I never use em they are so far down in the lineup they never get any at bats.
God Bless them youngins.
They no not of Fear..
I say give em whatever they need..

Damn It! i just reg. my new custom built 1202 Lami and came to this site and this the firs post.... Damn it! Oh well i'll run it til the wheels fall off...Sorry this had to happen to you...Saying that sounds odd...When my brother inlaw passed away last night and i'm home holding my new Lami and VS 250 watching the korean channel...Ping Pong(womens now) thinking about the midnight tide and hoping archery comes on soon...to bad i don't understand Korean! Gonna name my rod Ant in his honor! (RIP Anthony)

SNAP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smUs3hcmlS4



skittah... meybe steve didn't get a free one :eek:
:hidin:
;)
:hihi:

Karl, go F()ck yourself:soon:, sincerely, Steve

NIB, backup is lami 1201m also built by cms. in my opinion it does't have the backbone to stop fish like the arra. also it feels uncomfortably "bouncy" when fightin fish

NIB, backup is lami 1201m also built by cms. in my opinion it does't have the backbone to stop fish like the arra. also it feels uncomfortably "bouncy" when fightin fish

Then again, dried spaghetti has enough backbone to handle the fish Sauerkraut has been catching as of late.

redlite and hardbait, Sorry to hear of your misfortune and thanks everybody for there honest opinions and input. Without your input we could not develop the product we are noted for since 1952 and the Lamiglas XRA series for nearly two decades. We will never give up striving to make the best product we can, building fishing rods with the finest materials available, constructed to exacting standards. Our expectations of every rod are as high as those fishermen who fish with them. With some common sense and careful handling, your rod will last as long as you want it to. Some tips that will help> stay within the line rating, stay within the lure rating, proper angle when playing a fish, transporting your rod, proper storage, clean the blank after fishing, clean guides and reel seat. I am happy to see most of you continue to enjoy the excellent performance they have given you. I will repeat it again, Lamiglas and I will keep working hard developing a top notch product, so you can continue to fish with confidence.

well update......gots a problem. I ended up buyin the blank at M&D's cuse it was gonna be a while bfor cms could get them, so now I have to go back to M&D's to try and get the blank replaced.....then pay cms to rewrap......the aggravating price to pay for impatience......after all the years of dreamin about havin one and then savin the pennies to go through this..........will update on outcome.

redlite, I may have a solution for you....I can lend my personal factory Ron Arra XSRA 1205 to you until your new 1205 is ready. Is your 1205 conventional or spinning?

redlite, I may have a solution for you....I can lend my personal factory Ron Arra XSRA 1205 to you until your new 1205 is ready. Is your 1205 conventional or spinning?

ron, awesome move on your end! :claps: good karma, good karma. :claps: :claps:

Now there's customer service!

Mr. Ron A,
I appreciate your generous offer, but am goin to decline as I hate to borrow other peoples stuff. though i'm sure it would come with some good mojo. again, thank you and i'll update as the saga plays out

casting mojo..:laugha:

Hey Redlite, sorry to hear about your rig, i have a couple you can borrow as long as you take me to one of your honey holes. Godspeed Betty

Why are you assuming Lami will not honor the warrantee? I would be surprised if they didn't.

I am very dismayed to hear they wouldn't honor Sandman's warrantee. It is bad business for them not to honor a warrantee. A free blank prevents all the bad press which must cost them plenty of sales. If word gets out that they are not honring the warrantee , people will stop buying them , its that simple.

Anyway , call them and ask for a new blank ,see what they say. Doesn't matter where you bought it. You are the original owner and they should send you a new blank.

update.....this is turning into THE biggest aggravation.....so I went over to CMS sat. to pick up my broken rod and spoke with the owner. I understand that I have to go thru M&D's for the warranty. No big deal. But here in lies the problem....i had my receipt from when had paid CMS for the whole thing. It came to $319. The blank at M&D's cost me $176 (thanx s-b discount) Now when I tried to get my money back for the blank from CMS, the guy tells me that he will only refund me $130..WTF!!!!......i said how you figure, its a $200 blank? if I came in here, bought it, and brought it back, you'd give me my money back. He says that when you do it to have them wrap it, they only reimburse you THEIR cost for it. WTF!!!.....Some b.s. that he has to pay his employees and keep lights on and some other bs. So it boils down to that I paid CMS $189 for a few guides, a reel seat, some cork tape, and to wrap it. WTF!!! Then he tells me that IF I get the blank replaced, they'll re-wrap it for another $60!! WTF!!!

I have bought a lot of stuff from them, 3 rods, and had them do all work/ repairs on my rods. Always been good. Well I am ABSOLUTELY disgusted with their customer service on this issue. They dropped the ball on this one. I told the guy this and that I am done doing business with them.
Soooooo.......I call M&D's and they say that he can't give me new rod. I have to mail it back to Lami for them to check out and decide IF they are even goin ta warranty.... Additional cost- $60 shippin each way equals another $120.......So by the time I am done, this f'n rod is going to cost me almost $500 freakin dollars!!!!......When I got this rod I envisioned my kids inheriting it. Fortunately they won' t inherit this mind numbing aggravation. I should have just bought an Ugly-Stick. Will keep ya'll updated.

I can't follow your money trail. You paid CMS 319 to build on your M&D blank? That doesn't make sense. Sorry but I can't follow what you are saying.

BTW , 189 for the parts and a build on your blank is very reasonable. I must be missing something here???

as a rule its a big mistake to buy the blank from one guy and have someone else build it. I can see if you are importing a Century or Ziplex or a hard to find blank but for a blank that everyone can get , you should just buy the whole mess from one guy.