Twice in a week

250 yards of 50# braid


My family is keeping me under observation for 48 hours

Yikes.

:eek5:

Likely a bass? Or could it have been a BFT or Sunfish?

maybe a large ray? or sunfish or shark?

Shark


Wait, wait, wait, are you waking up after getting spooled, if so.............

Twice. Yipes!! :eek: From shore or boat?
Better start fishing in lakes or ponds. Kind of like a holding pen. :uhuh:
You could spool 600 yds. of # 20 and hope that the fish [?!?!#@@^] gets tired of swimming. :rotf2:
You have my sympathy!! :sick:

That would mess me up bad. :eek5:

Saw some big sunfish coasting through on top this morning.

You are turning that funny little dial on the top of your reel CLOCKwise, arent you?

catching nothing but wee schoolies last three outings. I almost wish I'd get spooled!

h-mmmmmm?

SD;
I can understand, especially if you had 150+yd out on a drift already, in which case they would pull 100yd or so (still alot)
but.
250 or 300yd is hard for me to understand as bass pulling off....
300yd is a LOT of line.
case in point.
we troll 50's for tuna, this year loaded them / 600yd of 80lb braid and ~200yd or 80lb mono topshot. 200 yards is a lot of line...

case in point
two Big-eye tuna on the troll @ 7-8kt this season, one in the 180-190 range, one mid-200's. they took A LOT of line, especially as we were clearing the other lines, but neither took us into the braid.

whats my point.
either you hooked the next 60 or 70, or a spunky bass of smaller size;
or it was something else....

who knows, right?

Chris,
It happened once to me this year. I had 100 plus yards of line out and 250 total on the spool, so technically 150 yards could be erased if you're in big current. In that scenario, it doesn't necessarily take a world record fish, either.
It also depends on the angle you're fishing. In other words, if the fish is directly down tide from you in the current, it’s feasible this could happen. If you're fishing the spot I'm thinking of and you were to the left of the big rock, I could see it happening, particularly if it was the middle of the tide and you have a lot of line out prior to hookup.
I vowed to wrap the line around my sleeve and pray if a fish gets deep on me again. Try getting perpendicular to the current too. If you’re left of the rock, walk over to the right as far as you can go and get the fish in an eddy.
I feel your pain, Bro. Get out there for another crack at em soon.

I guess thats more what I was envisioning;
a 100yd run after a 150yd drift...
even still; lot of line.

you guys have some big fish up there.
I'll get em next time...

I guess thats more what I was envisioning;
a 100yd run after a 150yd drift...
even still; lot of line.


Just the drag of 150 yds of line alone can be difficult to recover. I used the repack the line on my reels when in the boat. 250-300 yards of line behind your boat with nothing attached to the line puts one hell of a pull on the line. What I'm saying here is once you give a certain amount of line out you're fighting a fish in addition to large amounts of friction over the length of your line. I'm sure there’s a combination of current in relation to the amount of line you have out that creates pull. I would guess around 200 yards it gets real strong. That's been my experience. There is a point of no return, which is why a lot of guys fish with locked drags and try to stop a fish dead when fishing current.

I'm not saying Chris didn't have a big fish, either. There is a point where you’re odds dwindle substantially though. This past summer was case in point for me.

Just the drag of 150 yds of line alone can be difficult to recover. I used the repack the line on my reels when in the boat. 250-300 yards of line behind your boat with nothing attached to the line puts one hell of a pull on the line. What I'm saying here is once you give a certain amount of line out you're fighting a fish in addition to large amounts of friction over the length of your line. I'm sure there’s a combination of current in relation to the amount of line you have out that creates pull. I would guess around 200 yards it gets real strong. That's been my experience. There is a point of no return, which is why a lot of guys fish with locked drags and try to stop a fish dead when fishing current.

I'm not saying Chris didn't have a big fish, either. There is a point where you’re odds dwindle substantially though. This past summer was case in point for me.

Drag settings and reel design have a lot to do with this as well, as does the condition of your drag. Many drags fatigue as they get warm. None of the casting reels commonly used in the canal were designed for 65lb test line (The big Saltiga and ZB excepted).

None of the casting reels commonly used in the canal were designed for 65lb test line (The big Saltiga and ZB excepted).

Agreed 100%. I made a comment to someone the other night who asked me if he should get a conventional reel. The comment I made to him was the new breed of spinning reels have drag systems that are far superior to even a top end conventional reel. Keep in mind we're talkng about conventional reels you can surfcast with, not larger models for use in the boat.
After the last five mornings, my 229 newell is a steaming turd and ready for the scrap heap. My Z4500 saltiga took the abuse like a champion and the drag is still perfect.

First of all,I think I know the difference between a seal, shark or even sunfish. You learn to recognize the pickup of a bass. I fish a VS 250 and had 280 yds of 50# braid put on by Mike Thomas at the last leg at his shop. I would guess I had about 40 yards of line out when I got a subtle pickup that seems to be the case the majority of the nights this year. I removed the line from the roller and let her eat for a short time. As she was swimming off and I felt the line run between my fingers ,I pointed the tip up and put it back on the roller.I pointed the rod at the fish and when it got taut I reared back and set the hook. It was game on and I never turned the fish. Once again, during the run I turned on my headlight and watched line peel like crazy. This was during a period of maximum ebb and the fish used the current to its advantage. When I saw the backing and the fish still hadn't slowed I applied pressure with my palm to the spool. NOTHING DOING. More line ,more pressure and snap. Broken 50#seaguar leader that I had tied at home with a snell to a 7/0 Gami octopus.
Mike, I was standing on the rock because I had gone out alone and I am afraid of sharks. When I set the hook it came very close to pulling me in the water. I never turned the fish like I had done the first time. But that fish came closer to slack water. As far as fighting tuna and fighting bass, the speed of the run will tell you the difference in a hurry.Not to mention you have the advantage of a boat to chase it down. I stood there and begged for mercy.
None was granted.

Sounds like fun to me. At least you had a chance and were well prepared. Stinks but you can't catch them all.

Also, keep in mind that fish fight differently depending on where the hook has set. I caught a 44 this spring that took zero drag. I reeled it in and the stomach was in its mouth. Lots of commotion when it got in close but that's it. I have certainly landed a substanial number of quality fish at this location but have never had my ass kicked like I've experienced twice in the past week.

Next time Chant a Psalm. it may help


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwWHfcWx7lE&feature=related

Sounds like you were throwing eels, which eliminates my guess that maybe the fish was foul hooked. That was my thinking on stiff tip's plug-hooked spooler.

Some fish just don't want to be caught. I've had to resort to the old cup the spool and pray. Used to work better with mono. 250 yards of 20# mono stretches a lot before it snaps.

Mike, I was standing on the rock because I had gone out alone and I am afraid of sharks.

:laugha: The truth comes out...

I hadn't detected this before. Tolerant? Yes. Afraid? No, I wouldn't have guessed it.

I was speculating with regard to the amount of line you had out when the fish took.I was seeking to explain how a fish could get deep into your spool, but it sounds like you did the right thing. I would probably do the same next time too at the same place it happened to me.

I want to hear this story after a few beers.

Some fish just don't want to be caught. I've had to resort to the old cup the spool and pray. Used to work better with mono. 250 yards of 20# mono stretches a lot before it snaps.

:uhuh::uhuh::uhuh:




My family is keeping me under observation for 48 hours

Geez, Chris - not again :hihi:

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

If I understand right this was a single 200+ yard run? Even with the currents running at max... I dunno. Do sharks eat eels? Crazy!

If I was there we would be taking the drive to the taxidermi..
:chased:

NOT so strange to me, Chris,,,,,,,,

on the AM of the 21st i had an eeeel p-up,
at slack HIGH, 0320, she went 50 yds to the left

STOPPED, turned 90 degrees ~~on a dime,

and then proceeded to attempt to spool me like she
wasn't even hooked i stopped her at about 20 yds from the end
with me thumb on my PENN750ssm. i figure a run of at least
160-185yds and she would've kept heading for GLCSTR had i not
thumbed the reel.

short gain with 25#BCountry, then she would've hit the open seas had i not thumbed the reel again at about 10yds,,,,,,,,,,,,,another gain of about 30 yds and

she's off and running again until about 7 yds from zero, i stopped her and gained 20 agonizing yards as i felt the line drag across multiple rocks, she hunkered down and then she rubbed and rubbed and rubbed and i chose to try to bring her in as i felt the line against the rocks get weaker and weaker and weaker and SNAPPPP!!!

if my reel could've held the capacity she would've run for
500 yards and i felt no sign of weakening in her even after her fourth run!!!
what a beast and a BEEE yooo TEE of a fight!!

if my reel could've held the capacity she would've run for
500 yards and i felt no sign of weakening in her even after her fourth run!!!
what a beast and a BEEE yooo TEE of a fight!!


Whoa, there, Cowboy. There isn't a bass on the planet that's going to run 500 yards. :biglaugh:

condolences on your loss

try to catch it next time

west tide? it's still pretty fast even though it's past the moon, I think it's because the NE wind

got out last night first time in a long time