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TheSpecialist
10-04-2008, 04:36 PM
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From Canadian newspaper

These pictures are of Muslims marching through the streets of London during their recent 'Religion of Peace' Demonstration.






































Why would anyone think that we should be at war with such nice, peaceful Muslims?

Americans need to know - You need to forward this one to everyone! These Pictures tell it all!


Muslims have stated that England will be the first country they take over!


These are pictures not shown on American TV or in American Newspapers, but were forwarded by a Canadian Friend who thought Americans ought to know!


And Americans are actually considering electing the democrat presidential candidate, Barack Obama, who said in his book, Audacity Of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

TheSpecialist
10-04-2008, 04:36 PM
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TheSpecialist
10-04-2008, 04:38 PM
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TheSpecialist
10-04-2008, 04:39 PM
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spence
10-04-2008, 04:49 PM
Don't take this the wrong way, but this post is idiotic.

-spence

Nebe
10-04-2008, 05:05 PM
um... last I heard, Obama was not muslim. :huh:

The Dad Fisherman
10-04-2008, 05:10 PM
Thought you might be interested in the ENTIRE quote....in context, from the book.

Not some propaganda e-mail that is circling the world... :rolleyes: I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about these idiots in the pictures

"As a senator, I receive countless invitations to address the newest Americans, where I am often quizzed on my foreign policy views...

"But mostly they want affirmation that they, too, are Americans... my message is simple, for what I've come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.

"Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

spence
10-04-2008, 05:14 PM
Oh, there you go raining on my parade with your CONTEXT while I was just getting used to the hate and bigotry.

-spence

MAC
10-04-2008, 06:43 PM
Oh, there you go raining on my parade with your CONTEXT while I was just getting used to the hate and bigotry.

-spence

hate and bigotry ???

How would you feel if the demonstration above was held in your neighborhood ? I can't for one minute believe that you would have no animosity towards them....

There's only one way to deal with fanatics like that.:hang: They would do it to us as americans, given the chance. If you don't think so you are living in a cave.

Nebe
10-04-2008, 06:49 PM
give them a plasma screen, an ounce of kind bud and a couple free passes to some internet porn sites, and we will have peace.

spence
10-04-2008, 07:13 PM
hate and bigotry ???

How would you feel if the demonstration above was held in your neighborhood ? I can't for one minute believe that you would have no animosity towards them....

There's only one way to deal with fanatics like that.:hang: They would do it to us as americans, given the chance. If you don't think so you are living in a cave.

MAC, I think you missed the point of the post.

-spence

likwid
10-04-2008, 07:55 PM
hate and bigotry ???

How would you feel if the demonstration above was held in your neighborhood ? I can't for one minute believe that you would have no animosity towards them....

There's only one way to deal with fanatics like that.:hang: They would do it to us as americans, given the chance. If you don't think so you are living in a cave.

Islamic Center of New England is 10 miles from the center of Stoughton.

Haven't heard of any beheadings lately have you?

MAC
10-04-2008, 08:14 PM
Islamic Center of New England is 10 miles from the center of Stoughton.

Haven't heard of any beheadings lately have you?

No, Never saw any banners being waved like above either. Or did you miss where I said fanatics. The muslims around here are peaceable from what I have seen and I have no problem with them.

But if they started force feeding crap like in the pictures above feelings would change. (This I believe of all Americans)

MAC
10-04-2008, 08:16 PM
MAC, I think you missed the point of the post.

-spence

I didn't miss the point. It is like the kid poking the beehive with a stick. (from my part);)

likwid
10-04-2008, 08:40 PM
No, Never saw any banners being waved like above either. Or did you miss where I said fanatics. The muslims around here are peaceable from what I have seen and I have no problem with them.

But if they started force feeding crap like in the pictures above feelings would change. (This I believe of all Americans)

But its the media force feeding you crap.
Your above observation is for the most part dead on.

There should be a chain letter for chain letter senders that says if they send the chain letter they will be beaten within an inch of their life.

MAC
10-04-2008, 09:00 PM
My post after Spences post was meant to be somewhat tongue in cheek. Do I believe Obama would do things like that; NO. Do I think he would sit idlely by and let it happen;NO.

After 9/11 I can't see a demonstration being held and tolerated anywhere in the USA like that. Prior to 9/11 it would have been upheld under the right to assemble. Not now though. I believe the permit would be declined for safety issues on the demonstrators part.

Is there hate and bigotry here in the US ? You bet. And there will be with some for the rest of their days. Especially for religious fanatics who seek to destroy the western culture.

likwid
10-04-2008, 09:28 PM
Especially for religious fanatics who seek to destroy the western culture.

Now playing at your next military funeral!:

http://thehostess.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/newrope1028.jpg

http://grannygeek.us/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/phelps-signs.jpg

http://moonbeammcqueen.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/westboro55.jpg

They're just exercising free speech right?

MAC
10-04-2008, 09:44 PM
Now playing at your next military funeral!:

http://thehostess.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/newrope1028.jpg

http://grannygeek.us/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/phelps-signs.jpg

http://moonbeammcqueen.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/westboro55.jpg

They're just exercising free speech right?

LOL, not even close to muslim extremists. For one thing the kids probably have no idea of what their signs mean. They were probably promised McDonalds or Burger King by their moms for holding the signs.

scottw
10-04-2008, 09:54 PM
hey, where'd you get those pictures of the white members of Rev. Wright's congregation? Obama isn't going to be happy...

spence
10-05-2008, 08:20 AM
LOL, not even close to muslim extremists. For one thing the kids probably have no idea of what their signs mean.
I'd wager that those kids have been poisoned at a very young age and know exactly what the signs mean.

-spence

spence
10-05-2008, 08:22 AM
Especially for religious fanatics who seek to destroy the western culture.
How many at that rally do you think want to destroy the West? It was a media stunt meant to inflame, and it worked.

-spence

likwid
10-05-2008, 08:40 AM
LOL, not even close to muslim extremists. For one thing the kids probably have no idea of what their signs mean. They were probably promised McDonalds or Burger King by their moms for holding the signs.

Why? Because they're white?

stripersnipr
10-05-2008, 09:09 AM
How many at that rally do you think want to destroy the West? It was a media stunt meant to inflame, and it worked.


-spence

Yes, the media should never have allowed those pictures to be taken. At the very least all copies should be destroyed.

spence
10-05-2008, 09:27 AM
Yes, the media should never have allowed those pictures to be taken. At the very least all copies should be destroyed.
Speaking nonsense this morning I see.

-spence

TheSpecialist
10-05-2008, 10:25 AM
But its the media force feeding you crap.
Your above observation is for the most part dead on.

There should be a chain letter for chain letter senders that says if they send the chain letter they will be beaten within an inch of their life.


How is the media force feeding crap?

Did the media make or stage those pictures?

What it is, is a reminder that those people don't like us, and unless we do something we will never be safe. It has already been proven that you can not have peace with them. This is because they have no unification in the sense that there are so many differant factions. Every time there is a cease fire called on by the Israeli's and the PLO, the extremist nut jobs start lobbing morters, missles bombs , and the damn kitchen sink. They do not want peace, no matter what, even if you give them everything they want...

Joe
10-05-2008, 10:30 AM
You can wage war on the US, but you need to be in a place where we can't get a GPS fix on you.
Its laughable that a takeover could be organized and waged from inside the US in the age of the Patriot Act.
Get a hundred of your closest bearded Muslim friends together, make up some signs that threaten to chop off the heads of people, and then see if you get pulled over on your way home. From there, you'll spend a memorable weekend waterboarding, and getting intimately acquainted with the knobby end of a billyclub.

spence
10-05-2008, 11:15 AM
What it is, is a reminder that those people don't like us, and unless we do something we will never be safe. It has already been proven that you can not have peace with them. This is because they have no unification in the sense that there are so many differant factions. Every time there is a cease fire called on by the Israeli's and the PLO, the extremist nut jobs start lobbing morters, missles bombs , and the damn kitchen sink. They do not want peace, no matter what, even if you give them everything they want...
There's so much wrong with this rant I'm not sure where to begin.

Blending together a billion and a half people, the vast vast majority of whom don't hold violent extremist views, and labeling them all extremist is not just ignorant it's racist.

There are some radical Muslims who do want you think think there's a giant army of jihadis breathing down your neck. They want you to spread this fear to your friends. They want you to be afraid of them, because when you're afraid, they are empowered.

I'd give yourself a pat on the back for a job well done.

-spence

scottw
10-05-2008, 12:31 PM
ahhh the race card, always a sure sign that a lib is losing an argument

let's see would I rather be a decapitated PC lib? or a called racist by fools that are more concerned with political correctness than self preservation...you have tea with the terrorists, I'm headed for the gun shop!

what these people feed on is not fear it's the weak minded believers in political correctness and the inability of entire woosified populations to stand up to their thuggery because they've been beaten over the head with leftism for so long, which is why this crap is so widespread in a dying Europe...yes, we should be more like Europe....Obama can make that happen...

MAC
10-05-2008, 12:33 PM
Why? Because they're white?

No, because they were most likely born here. I would have said the same thing if they were black, yellow, tan or green.

To me if this wasn't a media stunt it is really sad. Our troops deserve better. Especially the ones who made the ultimate sacrifice.

A portion of out society (USA) today feels they are entitled to everything. But what some don't realize is FREEDOM comes with a price.

likwid
10-05-2008, 12:38 PM
No, because they were most likely born here. I would have said the same thing if they were black, yellow, tan or green.

To me if this wasn't a media stunt it is really sad. Our troops deserve better. Especially the ones who made the ultimate sacrifice.

A portion of out society (USA) today feels they are entitled to everything. But what some don't realize is FREEDOM comes with a price.

http://www.godhatesfags.com/ thats not much of a media stunt. These people are real.

MAC
10-05-2008, 12:51 PM
http://www.godhatesfags.com/ thats not much of a media stunt. These people are real.


That is sad. These people seem to be extremists but are also seem to be pacifists. As far as them ever doing anything deadly goes, I doubt it. If the poop ever hit the fan, they would most likely be the first to call out for help.

I wouldn't doubt each one has a folder somewhere in a government office with their name on it.

likwid
10-05-2008, 02:26 PM
That is sad. These people seem to be extremists but are also seem to be pacifists. As far as them ever doing anything deadly goes, I doubt it. If the poop ever hit the fan, they would most likely be the first to call out for help.

I wouldn't doubt each one has a folder somewhere in a government office with their name on it.

Pacifists?
You mean a church that has been linked to bombing abortion clinics and killing doctors?

Not quite.

MAC
10-05-2008, 02:59 PM
I have to admit I didn't read the link. Just assumed by looking at the pics posted. And you know what happens when ya assume...:1poke:

Now after reading it a little they are seriously F'd up. Lets be grateful the majority of our religious people in this country aren't like this.

I know I just fed into Likwids trap.what makes you think muslims all think like the extremists... To that I would have to say; I hope they don't. BUT even these wacko baptists don't hold a candle to the muslim extremists.

spence
10-05-2008, 02:59 PM
ahhh the race card, always a sure sign that a lib is losing an argument

let's see would I rather be a decapitated PC lib? or a called racist by fools that are more concerned with political correctness than self preservation...you have tea with the terrorists, I'm headed for the gun shop!

what these people feed on is not fear it's the weak minded believers in political correctness and the inability of entire woosified populations to stand up to their thuggery because they've been beaten over the head with leftism for so long, which is why this crap is so widespread in a dying Europe...yes, we should be more like Europe....Obama can make that happen...
Actually the race card was played by the Specialist, I simply called him on it.

This isn't about PC, it's about reality. If you paint a distorted picture of the problem, you're likely to get distorted solutions and responses. To date the bulk of our foreign policy post 9/11 has been directed by tinfoil hat wearing neocons and electorial politics rather than rational thought, experience or proven methods. Some have chosen to eat it up simply because it's anti-Left rather than take a few moments to actually assess the value.

The proof is in the putting.

Have fun clinching your rifle cowering in your basement. Just make sure you oil the appropriate parts now and then, you may be there for a while.

Oh, and in case you didn't know. Keep the powder dry.

-spence

Nebe
10-05-2008, 03:06 PM
A couple of years ago Bill Clinton said in a speech that 'it is unfortunate that this country is being run by those who focus on 'good and bad' as opposed to 'right and wrong'" or something very close to that..

likwid
10-05-2008, 03:36 PM
BUT even these wacko baptists don't hold a candle to the muslim extremists.

They don't?
Hell we LET them preach hate in this country.
That right there is worse.

We LET them go to soldier's funerals and picket.
Nice huh?

Nebe
10-05-2008, 03:59 PM
lets see. I can recall white americans dragging blackmen tied with chains to their pick up tucks.. countless hangings and lynchings..etc.

stripersnipr
10-05-2008, 04:21 PM
They don't?
Hell we LET them preach hate in this country.
That right there is worse.



What? Worse than what?

slapshot
10-06-2008, 06:42 AM
A couple of years ago Bill Clinton said in a speech that 'it is unfortunate that this country is being run by those who focus on 'good and bad' as opposed to 'right and wrong'" or something very close to that..

Close he was discussing the pros and cons of "spit or swallow."

Nebe
10-06-2008, 09:09 AM
Close he was discussing the pros and cons of "spit or swallow."

o yes. quite right. Boy that hummer really destroyed this country didnt it????

buckman
10-06-2008, 09:38 AM
It took his focus off the ball and hence, Osama walked off, as he lied to America, like a pre-teen caught with a Playboy. It also degraded the Presidency to a new low. (Insert your lame Bush BS here) But that was all good for America, wasn't it?

likwid
10-06-2008, 09:41 AM
It took his focus off the ball and hence, Osama walked off, as he lied to America, like a pre-teen caught with a Playboy. It also degraded the Presidency to a new low. (Insert your lame Bush BS here) But that was all good for America, wasn't it?

Using your psychic powers again aren't you?