Not sure if this has been discussed here, but this is from another thread today regarding recent attacks at the CCC - just an FYI:

Ahoy all,

I wanted to call attention to an assault on a 15 year old son of a friend of mine on Tuesday at 5:00 PM who was walking home after fishing the Cape Cod Canal. He was attacked by 5 maggots as he was walking down a path between the baseball field and the Post Office slightly east of the Sagamore Bridge on the Cape side. He was beaten and robbed of his wallet, cellphone, fishing gear, sweatshirt, hat and sneakers. When this was reported to the Bourne police, the boy's mother was informed that there have been several other attacks on other fishermen, as well as several home and car break-ins in the same area. So, if you fish the area, be very careful...

Capt Kev


Dave

Nope haven't heard this. Thanks for the heads up. F'n scumbags!

I hate hearing crap like this. WTF would screw with a 15 yr old kid who is just minding his own business. What a bunch of cowards.

Keep your eyes peeled and trust noone at the canal. It is pretty sad when you have to worry about getting mugged when you are enjoying your free time.

That's just a crying shame.

I can't imagine what that poor 15 year old kid was feeling like while these punks were taking not only his gear but his CLOTHES too.

Hopefully the kid wasn't hurt too badly.

I hate hearing crap like this. WTF would screw with a 15 yr old kid who is just minding his own business. What a bunch of cowards.

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The maggots who live in the low income apartment complex across the street. You'll see them sitting on the steps of that closed Italian market on the corner of Adams St and Sandwich Rd, all decked out in their best New Beffa gangstah garb.

Earlier this year, one guy I know had a punk open the front door of his truck--while he was laying across the seat sleeping. The would-be thief got the surprise of his life. He ran to his car--a black Dodge Neon with a half-moon spoiler on the rear deck--and the fisherman chased him down the road. The roads were wet and he had to break off his chase--pick-ups don't corner as well on wet roads as wanna-be sports cars.

The maggots who live in the low income apartment complex across the street. You'll see them sitting on the steps of that closed Italian market on the corner of Adams St and Sandwich Rd, all decked out in their best New Beffa gangstah garb.

Earlier this year, one guy I know had a punk open the front door of his truck--while he was laying across the seat sleeping. The would-be thief got the surprise of his life. He ran to his car--a black Dodge Neon with a half-moon spoiler on the rear deck--and the fisherman chased him down the road. The roads were wet and he had to break off his chase--pick-ups don't corner as well on wet roads as wanna-be sports cars.

At least the police could have been on the look out for the Dodge Neon with the Obama sticker on it?

oops, wrong forum :lurk:

The maggots who live in the low income apartment complex across the street. You'll see them sitting on the steps of that closed Italian market on the corner of Adams St and Sandwich Rd, all decked out in their best New Beffa gangstah garb.

That was the place I was thinking of as soon as I read this.

Earlier this year, one guy I know had a punk open the front door of his truck--while he was laying across the seat sleeping. The would-be thief got the surprise of his life. He ran to his car--a black Dodge Neon with a half-moon spoiler on the rear deck--and the fisherman chased him down the road. The roads were wet and he had to break off his chase--pick-ups don't corner as well on wet roads as wanna-be sports cars.

I remember that well, but never heard what (if anything) became of that. There was a rash of steeling going on at that time. Are you saying that those were the same scumbags as in this latest case?

It may be time for a little "canal justice". I'm not advocating vigilantyism, just making sure that any scumbags that will willing assault ANYONE are made to pay for their actions. Maybe police involvement, maybe a "stake-out" where an "unsuspecting" fisherman draws these social cockroaches out from the safety of their (possibly) subsidized "roach motels", and are treated to the same considerations they give their victims. In any case, if something isn't done to stop these assaults, they will only escalate in frequency as well as severity.

I hope the kid will see justice done, and that he will not be deterred from enjoying one of life's greatest pasttimes.

Should not be too hard to catch them. They keep rolling fishermen they're going to get shot sooner than later. No doubt there are some packed surfcasters who will go there with the hope of raising a different kind of fish. Talk about a risky demographic to pick for victims - not too bright.

They would have to pry my fishing rod from my cold, dead hands! I would be forced to kick the crap out of them because my temper just might flare up!!!:hidin:

At least the police could have been on the look out for the Dodge Neon with the Obama sticker on it?

oops, wrong forum :lurk:

Let's just say that the Bourne PD is "familiar" with that Neon. The problem was, it's not against the law to open a car door if you don't attempt to take anything inside--this bum could well claim that he saw the guy laying across the seat and wanted to check to see if he was OK :rollem:

BTW--if you're reading race into this, you couldn't be farther off base. The dude in the Neon is whiter than I am. Most of our local punks are. Oxycontin is basically color blind as to who it hooks.

not race at all, more of a low income housing thing

Yeah this trend of people trying to be "gangsters" has to stop. It seems to be most popular with kids around the age of 15. It only works when they're in groups because for the most part they're all too cowardly to do this stuff on their own. Their friends encourage it and they think it makes them cool. I went to school at Trinity in Hartford and have never seen so much of this "gangster" nonsense in my life. It's everywhere now.

If they were emulating Obama they'd be down at the library.

They would have to pry my fishing rod from my cold, dead hands! I would be forced to kick the crap out of them because my temper just might flare up!!!:hidin:

I knew i liked fishing with you for a reason. You big psychotic galoot.
Sucks being small and on the canal at nite and now old too. God I am easy prey for those touch holes. I got to get some pepper spray for the tackle bag.

I knew i liked fishing with you for a reason. You big psychotic galoot.
Sucks being small and on the canal at nite and now old too. God I am easy prey for those touch holes. I got to get some pepper spray for the tackle bag.


I don't think anyone in their right mind would approach Bigfish with a fight on their mind.

Professor, I hear you, I am 5'6" 175lbs and I fish alone also. I might have to sharpen the butt end of my rod..

I knew i liked fishing with you for a reason. You big psychotic galoot.
Sucks being small and on the canal at nite and now old too. God I am easy prey for those touch holes. I got to get some pepper spray for the tackle bag.

Part of the equation here is the victim being 15, Paul. Lots of these punks are too chicken%$%$%$%$ to take on an adult. Plus, they don't want your smelly knee boots and ratty sweatshirt--they're looking to roll kids of their Nikes and fresh threads.

You don't need pepper spray, either. Crank up a 5 oz jig to about a foot from the tip of your 10' rod, and play "batter up!!!" when they get, oh, say, 11' away from you. ;) :humpty:

yeah if someone approached Larry, they would have to be pretty high to think they were going ot get anywhere!
so true though, a surfcaster is the last person they should be messing with, like Joe said, they are in for a rude awakening one of these days, I just hope the poor surfcaster can prove self-defense!

I would say picking on surfcasters would be a mistake. Most guys are carrying fillet knives...plus some of us are packing as well.
Like someone said, karma is a b*tch and what goes around comes around.

Be careful and if possible fish within view of other anglers.

yeah if someone approached Larry, they would have to be pretty high to think they were going ot get anywhere!
so true though, a surfcaster is the last person they should be messing with, like Joe said, they are in for a rude awakening one of these days, I just hope the poor surfcaster can prove self-defense!

Self defense is presumed when it's 5 against 1.

I'd be packing my 6 D cell Maglight deemed "Beat light " to the canal.Sucks to hear all the robberies and beatings going on in the fishing world as of lately in MA and RI.

Hmmmmm and I just bought a brand new machete today too.

I may have to make my 2nd ever trip to the CCC

They have to be stupid to mess with anyone who is holding an 8 to 10 foot pole (weapon), not to mention the longnose pliers, small rigging knife visible in sheath, and in my case, sometimes, my K-bar... The rod alone would be an equalizer. And I wouldn't hesitate to use/sacrifice my most expensive rod on scumbags like that. If the first assault with the rod didn't discourage those still unscathed, Uncle Sam showed me exactly how to use the K=bar.... You just have to be willing to commit yourself to the choice you are making. No way would I expect a 15 year old to react this way. But the rod should always be the biggest deterant to an attacker.

Does Bourne have a local HA chapter???:hang:

Of course if you happen to "toss" a lead head in their direction attached to some durable BRAID, what would happen if you were to pull back on a 100+lb. canal turd with some nice braid to "cheese slice" it's way through whatever part of his body it comes in contact with?
Sure, a jig in the head would surely leave a "trademark", but braid burns / slices are a "brand" all to themselves!

Plus, I carry a old swiss army knife around my neck on a cord, just long enough to keep whomever a good 2 feet away. Otherwise, they'll get beaned. Heck, I carry more than enough disposable stuff that could be used as a weapon if the event every arose.
Fortunately, I'm 6' 2" and 275 lbs.

I just tig welded 4 3 inch spikes on the end of my 60 b boga grip...

well not really... but a boga grip across the face would make for a great way of getting your point across.

again? i hate this crap!! and i'm just as young as this kid...when does it end?

again? i hate this crap!! and i'm just as young as this kid...when does it end?

I would just make sure that fillet knife is in an open area for all to be seen.

again? i hate this crap!! and i'm just as young as this kid...when does it end?

When there's more like you, and less like them One ...

For me the scary part of this thread is twofold. First, I was introduced to the Canal this year by Tynan, Throwing Timber and Stewie. One of the places we fished was near the PO. We parked our vehicles there. The other scary part is, do I now need to worry about y'all tryin to vigilantee my ass?

I'm licensed to carry in three New England states. Of course the Ted Kennedy manslaughter is legal liberal state of taxatwobits isn't one of them. I like the "question" of whether a "vicitim" is or isn't armed to be firmly fixed in the scumbags pea-sized brain. If you can't answer the question then don't chance it.

What is it that Afterhours posted

"Tis better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6"

and my favorite is

"Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it"

I prefer a big old Danny with 3 trebles and 65 lb braid and once hooked up twitch it every now and then -they'll go were ever you lead them little as:cens:holes

You guys have forgotten the most available tool at your disposal. The thousands of five to ten pound barnacle covered rocks at your feet. If they get that close, smashing one of them in the shin/ankle area will break the bone rather quickly and painfully.

How about a whistle around your neck along with the knife. There are so many of us here that are there so often if we heard a whistle blow we could easily alert authorites to a problem in the general direction of the whistle. Christ at 3 a.m. the sound would travel on and on.

I'd have to say if you get jumped from behind after dark you'd best fight like a you know what.

Remember you have the right to use the force necessary that any prudent and ordinary person would use to defend themself/himself in the same situation.

Ya know somethin, I been fishin the ditch on late nights for the past 10 years or so and almost always travel alone. I always wondered if there was ever any trouble like this but I have never had a problem. Got my lic. to carry 3 years ago and I always got it with me down there so next time I'm draggin a bass over the tracks at the post office ....I'll be sure to have the safety off. ;)

Ya know somethin, I been fishin the ditch on late nights for the past 10 years or so and almost always travel alone. I always wondered if there was ever any trouble like this but I have never had a problem. Got my lic. to carry 3 years ago and I always got it with me down there so next time I'm draggin a bass over the tracks at the post office ....I'll be sure to have the safety off. ;)

I wouldn't advise you to keep on carrying along the Canal--your LTC isn't worth the plastic it's printed on there. It's a violation of Federal law for a non-LEO to carry a firearm on the Canal, except in the Scussett Reservation where hunting is permitted in season. You could lose that LTC if you're caught carrying on Federal property.

Regardless of that, shooting a bunch of unarmed kids is also likely to get you into even deeper trouble with the Barnstable DA's office. You'd have an uphill fight to convince a jury that you felt that your life was in danger, and couldn't retreat with complete safety--and both of those are key to a claim of shooting in self-defense.

Regardless of that, shooting a bunch of unarmed kids is also likely to get you into even deeper trouble with the Barnstable DA's office. You'd have an uphill fight to convince a jury that you felt that your life was in danger, and couldn't retreat with complete safety--and both of those are key to a claim of shooting in self-defense.

Great advice Mike.

Not for nothing but I detect just a little overeaction on this.

have this kiddo get on here at S-B and give a full description of his attackers so that anyone reading this thread can be lookin for them...and use the "power of
the group of S-B fishermen" against them...:af:

You think Lami would warranty a rod that broke while being used as a weapon of justice? Ive heard they are pretty good with warranty stuff. I could see putting a little to much behind a 5oz jig in that circumstance.

Is snapping off the tip of your Lami in the rectum of an attacker covered?

Is snapping off the tip of your Lami in the rectum of an attacker covered?

only if its an Arra 1084...

Of course we can all talk tough about what we'd do should we be attacked by a bunch of young punks, but what happens when they also decide to start arming themselves? What would keep them from also picking up stones and throwing them at you? A bunch of idiots like them with nothing to lose? Think about it, you're in more risk if you escalate the situation.

Those kids are bananas, they're all yellow and come in a bunch. They won't attack anyone in a group. Safety in numbers, folks. If you're heading out to the ditch in a sketchy area, make sure you've got your friends with you. I feel bad for the kid that got mugged, but who allows their 15 year old kid to go to the ditch alone, late at night, in that area? I understand that they shouldn't have to worry about it, but this is reality, right?

I wonder what Bourne PD is doing about this situation proactively?

I keep my Rapala filet knife visibly stuck in my belt and keep it as sharp as a straight razor.

I also have a fish billy stuck in my wader belt that's the same size and weight as an asp - that's the baton LEO's now carry instead of the old PR-24. I actually do use it to stiffen fish I'm going to keep, but it could really be used otherwise.

Time was that an idiot bent on relieving you of your wallet wouldn't **** with a fisherman - they knew a guy familiar with hunting and fishing is more than likely very capable of taking care of himself.

A good many of my friends are cops and I've been taught a few things with a Monadnock that will end a confrontation in short friggin' order if necessary. I was in the bar business for more than 25 years, full and part time time and some of the places were nicer than others I worked - I had to jump into more than a couple of brawls, and I could still do a one handed vault over a bar into my late 40's. My eye-hand is still surprisingly wicked for an old fart, too...

Yup, back in the day there was nothing like jumping into the middle of a New Bedford square-dance to get your motor runnin' :hihi:

Ahhhhh...the good old days.........

Yup, back in the day there was nothing like jumping into the middle of a New Bedford square-dance to get your motor runnin' :hihi:

Ahhhhh...the good old days.........

also it's what makes your hair turn white......:call:

I'd run away. I'm surprisingly fast, especially when petrified.

I feel bad for the kid that got mugged, but who allows their 15 year old kid to go to the ditch alone, late at night, in that area? I understand that they shouldn't have to worry about it, but this is reality, right?

I wonder what Bourne PD is doing about this situation proactively?

Not that it really matters what time it was, but SweetD said it was 5:00pm - well before sunset. And I think most 15 year olds are well old enough to go fishing by themselves at any time.

I wonder what Bourne PD is doing about this situation proactively?

:rotflmao::rotf2::rotf3::rotfl:

You don't live here, I take it. ;)

How about posting this on a few telephone poles to let the punks know that we are informed and that we provide swimming lessons as well as skeet practice

lots of S-B eyes out there to look for the banana's
if they had a good description.....

I don't fish the canal much but when I was going over the bridge yesterday there were swarms of these shady looking kids. Obviously they're not all criminals but they looked like it. I'd definitely have some bear pepper spray if I were fishing alone.

[QUOTE=Mike P;631680]The maggots who live in the low income apartment complex across the street. You'll see them sitting on the steps of that closed Italian market on the corner of Adams St and Sandwich Rd, all decked out in their best New Beffa gangstah garb.

more obama supporters!

Of course we can all talk tough about what we'd do should we be attacked by a bunch of young punks, but what happens when they also decide to start arming themselves? What would keep them from also picking up stones and throwing them at you? A bunch of idiots like them with nothing to lose? Think about it, you're in more risk if you escalate the situation.

Those kids are bananas, they're all yellow and come in a bunch. They won't attack anyone in a group. Safety in numbers, folks. If you're heading out to the ditch in a sketchy area, make sure you've got your friends with you.

I wonder what Bourne PD is doing about this situation proactively?


Put me in the 5'5" (165) category, so it's always a concern when fishing alone... at night, etc. (Been trying to fish with Big Fish Larry for protection, but we have had trouble meeting up) :p

Can't run as fast as I used to, especially without dropping and sacrificing my canal gear (yeah, like THAT is going to happen any time soon!). I always carry a razor sharp fillet knife of course, got a permit for pepper spray to boot. And I am not one that feels the least bit squeemish about fighting dirty either, so in the event of a fair 1 on 1 challenge, well, I llike my chances with the helpers above, (unless they're Larry's size, heh-heh), buuuuut still...

The thing about clubs and fillet knives reminds me of what happened to my brother's life long pal/best friend about 13 years ago or so. Same deal, he was about 17 or so, stopping to pick up his girlfriend in front of a 7-11, minding his own business, when 5 punks start in with him. Well he grabbed a baseball bat to protect himself, and as soon as the 5 punks managed to wrestle it away from him, they killed him with it in cold blood.

1 on 1 is one thing, but Joe makes a good point about beating feet as an alternative when the odds are against you.... unless of course you have an enraged Big Fish Larry standing behind you.

The thing about clubs and fillet knives reminds me of what happened to my brother's life long pal/best friend about 13 years ago or so. Same deal, he was about 17 or so, stopping to pick up his girlfriend in front of a 7-11, minding his own business, when 5 punks start in with him. Well he grabbed a baseball bat to protect himself, and as soon as the 5 punks managed to wrestle it away from him, they killed him with it in cold blood.

1 on 1 is one thing, but Joe makes a good point about beating feet as an alternative when the odds are against you.... .

Thanks for putting things into perspective Thunder Rod...somethings just aint worth dying for...my pride or fishing stuff included. Granted these punks need to be stopped, but 5 to 1 odds are not gonna be in my favor...and I got alot of living to do.

Carry a can of spray paint and spray it in their eyes and face .......... make it a glow color if you can find some ............ those cowards would run if first they can't see and second if they think they will get caught ............

I mean where is someone with a glowing face going to hide ........ and it will be fun tracking them and watching them try and get that stuff off ...........

I am always enraged John!:uhuh::realmad: Our timing never seems to jibe John.......having kids will do that to you...am I right?! We will get together I hope.......and hopefully if somebody decides to bother us I can be there for you......at least to distract them so you can get a running start.....cause once my feet start moving you are 4 steps to my one!!:laughs::laughs:

You know the old saying....."Walk softly and be with a BigFish!":scream:

cause once my feet start moving you are 4 steps to my one!!:laughs::laughs:

as the saying goes....

"I don't have to run faster than the bear.....I just have to run faster than you"

As with any weapon used in self defense, it goes back to an old adage: If you pull out a weapon, you had better be prepared to use it.

You might think that just brandishing a weapon will be a deterrent, but most street trash follow the theory that "You don't have the guts to do it!"

In a situation where you are out numbered, if you cannot escape (the safest option) make sure that you target the "ringleader" and put him down for good. Unfortunately, you cannot show him the mercy that he wouldn't show you if the roles were reversed.

"Never give a snake a second chance to strike!"

Hopefully those dirtbags will make the mistake of trying the same stunt with someone that can and will make them pay their ultimate price.

If an animal attacks a person, it is usually "put down" because it has proven to be a threat to people. Why can't we treat these "animals" the same way? They've already proven that they're a threat.

flame thrower

LOL! I like the spray paint idea. You can hear it on the police scanner..

"A&B at the Cape Cod Canal...be on the lookout for a young male, 5'7", 135lbs., and uh.. he's flourescent green!"

3 or more dudes show up together, you'll have no problem.

:rotflmao::rotf2::rotf3::rotfl:

You don't live here, I take it. ;)


Nope.. LOL!

Not that it really matters what time it was, but SweetD said it was 5:00pm - well before sunset. And I think most 15 year olds are well old enough to go fishing by themselves at any time.

My bad, I thought it had said late night, though the theory still holds true. A 15 year old is well old enough to go fishing by himself in a perfect world. Not in this one, obviously. Especially if you know you're in a sketchy area.

My bad, I thought it had said late night, though the theory still holds true. A 15 year old is well old enough to go fishing by himself in a perfect world. Not in this one, obviously. Especially if you know you're in a sketchy area.

Sadly you're right. I wouldn't want my 15 y/o fishing at 2:00AM in certain areas. Although I always thought of the canal NOT to be one of those areas. Guess that no longer holds true.

BTW: Were you and a friend fishing very early this morning at a certain bass hole to the south? I met some guy named Brian from Franklin (i think) very briefly out there about 1:00AM??? If it was... good to meet you. I got skunked there, but hit some nice fish 'back east' ;)