BigFish
10-27-2008, 08:01 PM
Yeah great ad campaign!! I guess Bud is the only beer that is drinkable??? Pretty dumb commercials!:cheers2:
View Full Version : Budweiser/Drinkablitiy??? BigFish 10-27-2008, 08:01 PM Yeah great ad campaign!! I guess Bud is the only beer that is drinkable??? Pretty dumb commercials!:cheers2: The Dad Fisherman 10-27-2008, 09:00 PM The little Red Head in the tailgate one is Cute though....:hee: BigFish 10-27-2008, 09:05 PM The little Red Head in the tailgate one is Cute though....:hee: Definite "Do-ability" Kev!:kewl: UserRemoved1 10-28-2008, 04:08 AM washes those $5 footlongs down real sweet though Larry :hee: Raven 10-28-2008, 06:58 AM beer of choice lately has been Octoberfest but it goes down to easy like new castle does... i have to be real care of inexpensive watery beer i can sometimes drink just one..... (disaster strikes) and the next day i have a brain splitting headache and hangover so bad that i want to call 911 but strangely ales or dark beer never affect me that way.... UserRemoved1 10-28-2008, 07:10 AM Oh definitely the red head Karl :kewl: EarnedStripes44 10-28-2008, 09:16 AM I 2nd that Octoberfest, its my favorite beer this time of year.... and Newcastle aint bad either... that Budweiser though....uhhh, I dont know about that. Fosters on the other hand, is an excellent light (not lite) beer. luds 10-28-2008, 10:20 AM Just to clarify. I think these are Bud Light commercials right? You can bash Bud Light all you want. Bud heavy is another story. :spin: fishbones 10-28-2008, 10:29 AM Just to clarify. I think these are Bud Light commercials right? You can bash Bud Light all you want. Bud heavy is another story. :spin: I'm with you, Luds. I used to only drink Sam, Magic Hat, Harpoon, etc... and I'd scoff at Bud because of the image associated with it. Then one day, I was at a friends house and all he had was Bud heavies to drink. I reluctantly took one and low and behold, it was a good beer. I still have a fridge in the basement full of microbrews and Corona's, etc... But I always have some regular Bud heavies in there for myself. Bud Light is just plain awful It's the second to last beer on earth that I'd drink, just ahead of Coors Light. The Dad Fisherman 10-28-2008, 10:49 AM Bud "Heavy"....I think thats a Stretch :hihi: Buds a great beer to have when you're mowing the lawn or doing yardwork....It will actually refresh you. (at least thats what I tell myself) Clogston29 10-28-2008, 11:18 AM bud light starts to come into its own, and the drinkability factor starts to emerge, after about 12 beers :buds: . anything less than that, stick to the good stuff. basically, the ad should say that if you want to drink heavily all day, bud light is the way to go The Dad Fisherman 10-28-2008, 11:26 AM Bud Light is the beer you drink when you want to Smash heads with your buds and say 'Dude, I kicked the whole 30 pack" FishermanTim 10-28-2008, 11:42 AM You couldn't pay me to drink ANY bud. Give me a Guiness, Harpoon, Sam, Rolling Rock, Smithwicks or for a really quick blitz (you skip over the buzz and go right to drunk) I'll look for Samiclaus (?) It's the world's strongest beer, or at least it was the last time I checked. To give you an idea, 1 bottle is like drinking 6 of anything else. A 6-pack is like a case, and the cost reflect this. It taste a and does down like apple schnapps. Ok, this is a special beer, but the others are my regulars. The Dad Fisherman 10-28-2008, 11:52 AM Worlds Strongest beer is Sam Adams Utopias @ 24% ABV Samichlaus is the Worlds Strongest Lager @ 14% ABV...but its a hell of a lot cheaper than Utopias.....$5 a bottle comapred to $200...so you can have 40 of them ThomCat 10-28-2008, 03:23 PM :shocked::cheers:Gimme a Green Hornet anytime. Bud (heavy or lite) would be an option only if all the breweries in Europe and Canada:splat: simultaneously imploded, leaving only one whiskey, one scotch and one............:rotflmao: Raven 10-28-2008, 03:30 PM something about corona's make ya piss like you just chugged a keg.... must be that special water in mexico :buds: Clogston29 10-29-2008, 07:27 AM canadian beer sucks :deer: give me a GOOD american beer anytime. if i'm having a few beers at a bar or home, give me the good stuff. if i'm drinking all day at a nascar race or party, i've got no issues with bud, bud light, miller light, etc. just keep coors light the hell away from me - if i want water, i'll drink water The Dad Fisherman 10-29-2008, 07:36 AM "American Beer is like Making Love in a Canoe" Jim Koch is my Hero....he's made it acceptable for Mass produced beers to actually be concerned about Flavor.....instead of "Drinkability" luds 10-29-2008, 07:56 AM You couldn't pay me to drink ANY bud. Give me a Guiness, Harpoon, Sam, Rolling Rock, Smithwicks or for a really quick blitz (you skip over the buzz and go right to drunk) I'll look for Samiclaus (?) It's the world's strongest beer, or at least it was the last time I checked. To give you an idea, 1 bottle is like drinking 6 of anything else. A 6-pack is like a case, and the cost reflect this. It taste a and does down like apple schnapps. Ok, this is a special beer, but the others are my regulars. Wow, you started off strong with Guiness, Harpoon, and Sam Adams. How you can drink such great beers and then go as low as Rolling Rock is beyond me. I use to get $2 rolling rock bottles when I was in school and that was in NYC. I think a Sam Adams was 6 bucks at the same bar. It was cost effective way to hit the bars but that RR just tasted like piss. :yak6: If I had my choice of cheap beersI would much rather drink PBR. :hee: Clogston29 10-29-2008, 08:06 AM i'd take red dog or ice house (are either still made, man they sucked) over rolling rock in fact, i'd take any other beer made over rolling rock pbr is actually pretty good luds 10-29-2008, 08:09 AM i'd take red dog or ice house (are either still made, man they sucked) over rolling rock in fact, i'd take any other beer made over rolling rock pbr is actually pretty good that's a pretty stron statement. icehouse is pretty nasty. :agree: i might take rolling rock over bad frog though. The Dad Fisherman 10-29-2008, 08:11 AM I used to be an Old Milwaukee guy when it came to cheap beer. Oh yeah...and PBR pounders were a bargain too.... The Dad Fisherman 10-29-2008, 08:13 AM The Pinnacle of Cheap Beer...$3.96 a case. Clogston29 10-29-2008, 08:53 AM i forgot all about bad frog. i think i actually had a bad frog tee shirt in college. "do it froggy style" Clogston29 10-29-2008, 08:55 AM a word of warning from the center for disease control to those who drink cheap beer: "Cheap beer prices may a have direct effect on increases in sexually transmitted disease (STD) among young people, according to a report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Everytime beer taxes go up or the legal drinking age is raised, gonorrhea rates usually dropped among young people, according to Alcohol Policy and Sexually Transmitted Disease Rates --United States, 1981--1995 published April 28, 2000 by the CDC." i may make this my signature fishsmith 10-29-2008, 09:12 AM Lately I've been going south of the border and love this stuff :cheers: --> http://www.beerstore.com.au/beerstore/uploads/beerImages/Dos_Equis_Special_L.jpg as a poor youth, the cheapest beer I ever drank was --> http://diversioncansafes.com/otherimages/exp/52012s.jpg :yak4: fishbones 10-29-2008, 09:22 AM Wow, Hamm's is a blast from the past. In college, we used to go north of the border (to NH) and buy cases of Piels and Black Label. Aside from Coors Lite, probably the worst beer for me as far as drinkability was when I used to go up to Syracuse and all the parties had were kegs of Gennessee. That stuff went down like a cup full of thumbtacks in sawdust. We quickly learned to drink a lot before heading out to the parties. BigFish 10-29-2008, 09:55 AM I have been a Miller Lite guy since day one......it actually has flavor (yeah it tastes great) but it does! Bud on the other hand....is quite frankly.....swill! Miller is also swill!! I think I might drink the Bud before the Miller!! MGD is good, Coors Light.......oh boy now there is a vile container of goat piss if ever I have tasted one!!:yak: Has to be one of the worst beers ever! Corona is good on a hot day with the lime! I have enjoyed the Harpoon line of beers! Hamms, Red Dog, Pabst, Schlitz, Schaefer, Gansett', Red, White and Blue.....I would never lower myself! The Dad Fisherman 10-29-2008, 10:02 AM Hamms, Red Dog, Pabst, Schlitz, Schaefer, Gansett', Red, White and Blue.....I would never lower myself! I'll poor it in a glass for you so no one will ever know...:hihi: Pabst and Schlitz aren't that bad......Try a Narragansett :yak: Raven 10-29-2008, 10:11 AM McEwens Scottish ale... a few of those and your pretty much drunk on yer ass... lol it has a taste that you have to acquire though-> a bit second choice is Belhaven Scottish Ale hell they started brewing it in 1571, i think it was.... supposedly any beer that comes in a green bottle goes skunky because the green glass allows to much light in... Ok JohnR where are ya....? we need some German beer recommended about now... too much "swill beer" out on the Market.... i haven't tried wachusett yet however... EarnedStripes44 10-29-2008, 10:17 AM PBR gets a bad rap and they sell 'em for a $1 at the avenue in Brighton on Sat. Night. Rolling Rock is pretty bad, my old roomate used And I was basically raised on that schlitz, not that I will touch that stuff anymore. And yes, icehouse is still made, far more common in the south though. luds 10-29-2008, 10:18 AM BigFish, I'm with you on the Miller Lite. Tastes good and it is less of a gut builder. Fishsmith, I'm also a fan of Dos Equis. I lived on that stuff when I was on my honeymoon. Ever hear of Bud mud? Well Dos Equis mierdas are 10 times worse so be careful.:shocked: The Dad Fisherman 10-29-2008, 10:24 AM Raven, There are actually a Lot of good beers on the market. The Micro brew revolution really got brewing good beer into the mainstream. 30 years ago you had pilsners....as far as the eye could see, and that was about it. ocassional Guinness would pop up. Good beer back then was St. Pauli Girl or Heineken. :yak: Now you can go in a liqour store or "Packy" and get Porters, Stouts, Ales, Lagers, Heffewiezens, IPA's, ESB's, Belgian Abby Ales, Barley Wines. The list goes on and on. Beers with Fruit (Raspberry Wheat, Strawberry Blonde), Beers with Chocolate (Chocolate Stouts) , Beers with Honey (Honey Wheat), Beers with Maple Syrup (Maple Porters), beers with Vegetables (Pumpkin Ales, Chili Pilsner :yak:). There is a smorgasboard of good and great beers out there now. You want a taste treat for fall...have a Black and Tan made with Guiness and Post Road (or any other) Pumpkin Ale....:drool: fishsmith 10-29-2008, 10:30 AM MMMMMMMM I can't take much more, today has 'liquid lunch' written all over it. luds 10-29-2008, 10:35 AM Pumpkin Ale! :hang: I pass on any beer with a strong cinnamon flavor. UserRemoved1 10-29-2008, 10:43 AM haffenreffer Matz beer balls Those were the fave in college :hee: I like the occasional Heiny now. FROSTED glass. BigFish 10-29-2008, 10:45 AM Salty...you mean "Heffenwreckers"??:bgi: The Dad Fisherman 10-29-2008, 10:47 AM Pumpkin Ale! :hang: I pass on any beer with a strong cinnamon flavor. You don't know what you're missing...unless you just don't like pumpkin pie The Dad Fisherman 10-29-2008, 10:49 AM Haffenreffer was the beer that gave you the best bang for the buck Your buzz never seemed to go away when you were drinking those...stayed with you for hours. Bad choice if your planning on sneaking past the parents that night.....Got me nailed in high school fishbones 10-29-2008, 11:11 AM You don't know what you're missing...unless you just don't like pumpkin pie I don't like pumpkin flavored anything, but a friend got me to try a pumpkin ale at a local place with a huge beer selection last year. I really liked it, especially the cinamon flavor. It's perfect for this time of year. In fact, I'm going to meet the same friend tomorrow and I'll probably have a couple. On a side note, the place where I usually go does a thing called "beer flights". It's a take off on wine flights, which apparently are pretty popular with the wine crowd. You get four small glasses, each with 4 ounces of a different beer in it. You get to try a total of 36 beers over the course of time. They have everything from seasonals, largers, pilsners, bocks, Japanese beers, etc.. This is something to be done in multiple sittings for obvious reasons, but it's a great way to try different types of beer. The good looking bartenders at this place don't hurt either.:heybaby: The Dad Fisherman 10-29-2008, 11:21 AM Some brewpubs do these beer dinners where you pay something like $35 a person and get a 4 course meal where each cours is paired with a pint that goes with it. Not a bad deal for $35-$40 Where's the place you usually go? FishermanTim 10-29-2008, 11:34 AM How about Heffenreffer? I used to live across from the brewery as a kid. The fun part was those puzzles under the cap. Our policy was that you couldn't move on to your next beer until you solved the current beer cap puzzle. I leaned on a couple of occaisions why it was call "the green monster". I stick with my earlier choice of RR, and I'll go as far as saying that any kind of Bud gives me the heaves. I do agree that Coors/Coors light are glorified donkey pee. How about those cheap beer nights in our youth with others like Keystone, Lowenbrau, Naragansett, Schlitz? I can feel the bile rising as I type.:yak6::yak: fishbones 10-29-2008, 11:36 AM Some brewpubs do these beer dinners where you pay something like $35 a person and get a 4 course meal where each cours is paired with a pint that goes with it. Not a bad deal for $35-$40 Where's the place you usually go? That sounds good. I'll have the mac n' cheese kids meal with a Magic Hat #9. I usually go to the Stoneforge Grill in Easton. They also have locations in Raynham, Plymouth and Foxboro. Very good food and 36 beers on tap, along with about 50 different bottles. ThomCat 10-29-2008, 04:12 PM canadian beer sucks :deer: give me a GOOD american beer anytime.if i'm having a few beers at a bar or home, give me the good stuff. Give me a GOOD American beer anytime too. Too bad that most of the good American beers, aside from maybe Sam's, are from the small regional breweries. :cheers::drool: if i'm drinking all day at a nascar race or party, i've got no issues with bud, bud light, miller light, etc. just keep coors light the hell away from me - if i want water, i'll drink water ] If you're drinkin' Bud, Miller or Coors Lites, you ARE drinking WATER! :rotflmao: BTW-Are Molson, Heiniken, Becks, Grolsh or Bass represented on the NASCAR circuit?????:rollem: :conf: :yawn: :confused: :sleeps: :cheers2: BigFish 10-29-2008, 04:20 PM Its all water....cause' thats what its made with!:kewl: Raven 10-29-2008, 04:36 PM Budweiser and drinkability??? there's no such thing~ :deadhorse: Bigcat 10-29-2008, 05:39 PM I would not drink that crap for free :doh: UserRemoved1 10-29-2008, 05:58 PM DAMN straight Kev. I can remember many a night with a 6pack of them nice fat green bottles. I wish I was still that young. 4 Haffenreffers and chase it with a 5th of Southern Comfort. I thought my name was RALPH a few times after that just stone drunk :btu: The matz beer balls were the best. We always got a few of them for the dorm at Wentworth. Man did we have some wild times. We'd go hunting down all the Simmons chicks :wid: Haffenreffer was the beer that gave you the best bang for the buck Your buzz never seemed to go away when you were drinking those...stayed with you for hours. Bad choice if your planning on sneaking past the parents that night.....Got me nailed in high school ProfessorM 10-29-2008, 07:15 PM F Heiniken Pabst Blue Ribbon. Miller Lite:yak: Sam Adams if I do happen to drink one My friend has the best line his favorite beer is free beer. Actually saw him drink 2 beers he found at the canal once while we were fishing. Clogston29 10-29-2008, 07:23 PM Molson, Heiniken, Becks, Grolsh = crap, watery beer to me, no better than bud Bass is good, but there are a hell of alot of better options out there Its all personal taste. In the end, if I'm trying to market Bud Light, drinkability is probably the best thing i can come up with. They know that noone is looking forward to that pint of BL at the end of the day - BL's target market is looking forward to that 6 or 12 pack of BL at the end of the day. Light beers in general are kind of a scam to begin with (and fighting over who has the lowest carbs is even more of a joke - alcohol has a worse effect on weight gain than a few carbs). Drink alot of beer (light or heavy) and your going to end up fat and unhealthy - I know that from experience. Have a beer here and there, weather heavy or light, and its actually good for you. Swimmer 10-30-2008, 10:51 AM I have been a Miller Lite guy since day one......it actually has flavor (yeah it tastes great) but it does! Bud on the other hand....is quite frankly.....swill! Miller is also swill!! I think I might drink the Bud before the Miller!! MGD is good, Coors Light.......oh boy now there is a vile container of goat piss if ever I have tasted one!!:yak: Has to be one of the worst beers ever! Corona is good on a hot day with the lime! I have enjoyed the Harpoon line of beers! Hamms, Red Dog, Pabst, Schlitz, Schaefer, Gansett', Red, White and Blue.....I would never lower myself! I was wondering if anyone was going to say "Miller Lite". Taste great less filling. I admire you guys wqho drink Adams and all the rest of the beers that have come out in the last 20 years, my stomach can't take them not stand them. Bob Thomas 10-30-2008, 10:57 AM haffenreffer Matz beer balls Those were the fave in college :hee: I like the occasional Heiny now. FROSTED glass. Boy Salty...you brought back a lot of hazy memories with those 2! First in our dorm to sneak a beer ball in (Catholic college....yeah right!) Then we "procured" a water fire extinguisher...emptied it, filled with Heffenreffer (green death) pumped it up and brought a new meaning to "Keg Stand"!!! Ahhh the memories of a .9 gpa freshman year! fishbones 10-30-2008, 11:00 AM I was wondering if anyone was going to say "Miller Lite". Taste great less filling. I admire you guys wqho drink Adams and all the rest of the beers that have come out in the last 20 years, my stomach can't take them not stand them. Miller Lite is pretty good and it's refreshing. I can drink Lite or Bud when doing stuff around the house or yard and neither fill me up if I have a few. I like Bud but refuse to drink Bud Light and I like Lite but can't stand regular Miller or Genuine draft. If I'm out at a restaurant or bar and don't plan on drinking more than a couple, I would rather go with something more filling and with more flavor. ThomCat 10-30-2008, 11:47 AM Molson, Heiniken, Becks, Grolsh = crap, watery beer to me, no better than bud Bass is good, but there are a hell of alot of better options out there Its all personal taste. You're absolutely right as far as personal preference being the deciding factor but IMHO the last word I would use to discribe Molson, Heiniken, Becks or Grolsh would be watery :btu: :cheers: luds 10-30-2008, 01:41 PM I love the beer and yard work stuff. Looking forward to that part of being a home owner. I think my yard work beers are going to be Harpoon IPA and Sam Adams. What are you supposed to drink when you shovel? I'm thinking Guiness. Raven 10-30-2008, 01:50 PM when you shovel snow you switch over to hot coffee with Emmet's or Bayley's Irish creme in it.... :bl: The Dad Fisherman 10-30-2008, 01:51 PM What are you supposed to drink when you shovel? I'm thinking Guiness. A nice little 1/2 pint of schnaaps tucked away in the jacket is always nice. Hot Chocolate with kahlua or baileys (or both) works or Hot Apple Cider with Cap'n Morgan will warm you up when your done and back in the house Guinness or a nice Porter fishbones 10-30-2008, 02:08 PM I used to shovel with a flask of Southern Comfort in the coat pocket. Now, I have my driveway plowed and only have to shovel the walkway, so not much of a reason to drink. This is really gonna make me sound like a Nancy boy, but I love Peppermint Schnapps in hot cocoa or Godiva White Chocolate liquor in my coffee when I'm outside playing in the snow with my son. bart 10-30-2008, 02:20 PM won't touch Bud ever again now that they have moved overseas. give me a blue moon with an orange any day( i know, gay) The Dad Fisherman 10-30-2008, 02:21 PM This is really gonna make me sound like a Nancy boy, but I love Peppermint Schnapps in hot cocoa. Thats my Thanksgiving Football Game drink of Choice or Godiva White Chocolate liquor in my coffee when I'm outside playing in the snow with my son. Yeah, That made you sound like a Nancy Boy :hihi: (just kidding) luds 10-30-2008, 02:28 PM won't touch Bud ever again now that they have moved overseas. give me a blue moon with an orange any day( i know, gay) Just never go with blue moon as a follow up to irish car bombs. trust me. :yak: Clogston29 10-30-2008, 05:02 PM we should have chased the bluemoom with bacardi limon carbombs - now that's how beer is supposed to be went to a bachelor party last weekend and did jagerbombs - i'll stick with carbombs in the future bart 10-30-2008, 05:18 PM ahhh carbombs. when i was a bouncer in Boston on St. Paddy's day i finished my shift by putting down 6 bombs in a row and then tried to go around the world with the beers on tap(over 20). ended up in a snow pile on the side of the road with a twelve pack of broken beers all over me after i slipped and smashed the box over head :buds::sleeps: tynan19 10-30-2008, 05:35 PM ended up in a snow pile on the side of the road with a twelve pack of broken beers all over me after i slipped and smashed the box over head :buds::sleeps: :cheers2: Rob, that is a great story. Love carbombs. My friend sells homemade hot sauces and convinced us to try teguilla and his sauce. Man did that burn on both ends. UserRemoved1 10-30-2008, 05:54 PM Josh I never had a jagerbomb until 2 years ago out in Indianapolis. Holy crow that was a long nite. Good thing the bar was downstairs from my room :eek: Have you ever played Thunderstruck? That was a new one on me too. HOOOOOBOY :hihi: we should have chased the bluemoom with bacardi limon carbombs - now that's how beer is supposed to be went to a bachelor party last weekend and did jagerbombs - i'll stick with carbombs in the future Joe 10-30-2008, 06:43 PM ahhh carbombs. when i was a bouncer in Boston on St. Paddy's day i finished my shift by putting down 6 bombs in a row and then tried to go around the world with the beers on tap(over 20). ended up in a snow pile on the side of the road with a twelve pack of broken beers all over me after i slipped and smashed the box over head :buds::sleeps: Good thing you're a huge bastid because a lightweight would have died from alcohol poisioning. fishbones 10-31-2008, 09:17 AM Went out last night and had a few Blue Moon Pumpkin Ales with cinamon around the rim of the glass. Perfect beer for this time of year. Now that's a beer with "drinkability". bart 10-31-2008, 09:39 AM Good thing you're a huge bastid because a lightweight would have died from alcohol poisioning. yeah i was pushing 270 at the time. only made it about half way 'round the world though...:cheers2: bassackward 10-31-2008, 01:34 PM Haffenreffer was the beer that gave you the best bang for the buck Your buzz never seemed to go away when you were drinking those...stayed with you for hours. Bad choice if your planning on sneaking past the parents that night.....Got me nailed in high school Geez Kev, that brings back memories. "Green Death" as we called it. Remember the puzzles under the cap? I could only get them after having a few. Anybody remember Knickerbocker? Best cheap beers I remember were PBRs and Piels ($6 a case at Pease AFB when I was at UNH in mid 80s). That's $0.25 per beer. WOW Of course, now I prefer Siera Nevade Pale Ale or similar. A 6-pack is plenty of that stuff vs 12 to 24 of the light american lagers. Raven 11-04-2008, 09:16 AM isnt beer unless it's ale heh heh heh let's see budweiser try and make one all they make is bubbly water http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/ravenob1/beerflag.gif The Dad Fisherman 11-04-2008, 09:23 AM For anybody that would like to expand their beer knowledge this is a great link to all the different styles explained....if anything it will pass the day for you at work :D http://www.beerhunter.com/beerstyles.html Clogston29 11-04-2008, 09:23 AM isnt beer unless it's ale heh heh heh let's see budweiser try and make one like this :hihi: The Dad Fisherman 11-04-2008, 09:59 AM The Lager Debate - Lager vs. Ale, which is better? Most of those who are "born again" into the flavorful world of ale often become bitter (no pun intended) to the ale counterpart, lager. I experienced this first hand when a close friend introduced me to home brewing, and the rich flavors in a variety of ales. I decided that lagers were not worthy of my time. I began to boycott lagers and even badmouth them as lousy, tasteless beer. As I grew in my appreciation of fine beers, I started to realize that good lagers do exist and I wasn't giving them a fair shot. Considering that before I was introduced to ales I was drinking some pretty run-of-the-mill, light lagers, a little exploration couldn't be a bad thing. There must be better lagers out there than what I was used to. As an ale lover I must bite my tongue and not be so quick to judge. I can't stereotype a beer without first getting to know it. Good lagers do exist, but there are many light lagers that I won't bother with. First let's take a quick look at how some of those watery lagers are made... Starches from rice can be broken down into fermentable sugars during the mash process. As a result there are no byproducts to add additional body to the beer, so many pale lager brewers use rice as an adjunct to keep the beer thin, and light colored, while keeping the alcohol content relatively high. Other beers tend to have more body and color because all or most of the alcohol is gained using malted barley, not rice. Some brewers even blend (a better term than "water down") their final, concetrated beer with water in order to thin it. Repeated filtering is also used to lighten the beer, which can remove much of the quality that some beer lovers appreciate. Many micro brews and beers brewed in the old tradition are minimally filtered, if at all. If there are no funny tricks being used to manipulate the final product, I think a good lager can certainly stand side by side with a good ale. But what really makes the difference between an ale and lager? Lagers are made using the same basic ingredients as ale, but there are two major differences: yeast and fermentation temperature. First let's look at the yeast. Yeasts come in a variety of styles, each developed for a certain style of alcoholic beverage. There are lager yeasts, champaign yeasts; yeasts used for pilsners, and several varieties of yeast for ale, lambic and barley wine styles. Each yeast variety has unique qualities that impact the final flavor and aroma of the beer. The main difference between yeasts used for lagers and ales is that ale yeast is a top-fermenting yeast which means the yeast floats to the top and hangs around up there during most of the fermentation process. Lager yeast is a bottom-fermenting yeast which means it hangs around the bottom of the fermenter. During both types of fermentation the active yeast does permeate the brew and eventually settles out on the bottom of the fermenter when it is done. The other main difference in producing a lager or ale is in the temperature during fermentation. Most ales are fermented at a controlled temperature around 70 degrees Fahrenheit, although Sierra Nevada's Celebration Ale is said to be fermented at 65 degrees. Lagers, on the other hand, are fermented about 15 degrees lower, around 55 degrees. The yeast and the fermentation temperatures play an important roll in the flavor of the beer. Ale and lagers share the benefit of a rich variety of flavors and aromas due to the yeast used, but ales tend to be more robust and fuller flavored than lagers because of the warmer fermentation. Colder fermentation tends to rob the beer of flavors that may be imparted during this process because the cold temperature subdues activity. This is also why lagers tend to take longer to completely ferment, typically a week or two longer than common ales. The goodness of a beer's flavor is relative to the person who enjoys it. Ultimately it is the craft of brewing that matters, the recipes and traditions that fill the world of beer with such a variety of types and styles. There should be no battle over what is better. They are simply different. Raven 11-04-2008, 10:50 AM like this :hihi: i'll wait 500 years and let ya know :soon: Jenn 11-04-2008, 07:14 PM Haffenreffer was the beer that gave you the best bang for the buck Your buzz never seemed to go away when you were drinking those...stayed with you for hours. Bad choice if your planning on sneaking past the parents that night.....Got me nailed in high school Hoo boy! I would like to say this brings back some memories but ......the fact of the matter Is I dont remember much from the days when I drank it!!!! Backbeach Jake 11-05-2008, 06:02 PM Right now, I'm wrapping myself around a coupla Sam Adams Boston Ales. Damn those guys are good! Their Octoberfest is a work of art. Bud has "Drinkability"? Not any more. Raven 11-05-2008, 07:40 PM Right now, I'm wrapping myself around a coupla Sam Adams Boston Ales. Damn those guys are good! Their Octoberfest is a work of art. Bud has "Drinkability"? Not any more. NOW YOUR COOKIN !! :cheers2: Clogston29 11-06-2008, 08:16 AM Their Octoberfest is a work of art. just put a case or two of it down in my basement room to get me through the winter. Pete_G 11-06-2008, 09:00 AM Right now, I'm wrapping myself around a coupla Sam Adams Boston Ales. Damn those guys are good! Their Octoberfest is a work of art. Bud has "Drinkability"? Not any more. The Boston lager seems to get all the attention the Boston Ale is definitely my favorite from Sam Adams. As for Budweiser, it's certainly not my first choice, but I've found it's really temperature sensitive. Somehow they're a lot better when they've been on ice for a while versus coming out of a fridge. Those 5 to 7 degrees seem to really make a difference. Or maybe it's just something I've tricked myself into believing... BigFish 11-06-2008, 09:02 AM If I drink beer it must have been on ice...period! Refridgerators just do not cut it! Must be bottled and it must be iced...end of story! Clogston29 11-06-2008, 10:12 AM but you drink that monkey piss they pass off as coffee at DD, so what do you know :hihi: vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
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