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thefishingfreak
10-27-2008, 09:26 PM
This is a 1977 Angler Boats 19 foooter I been hacking up.
I'm going to turn it into a center console.
I really liked the hull.. I was looking at a 20 Seacraft or this, I chose This. The freeboard is much higher.Plus it has a nice flare to the bow.
First order of buisness was gut the thing all the way to the fiberglass shell. transom- stringers- Everything.

Thought I would share some pics.
I made the transom full height I havent made up my mind if I'm going to notch the transom or put a bracket on it. Got all the stringers made the front sections are glued down. waiting for the transom I put on tonight to set up.

Nothing fancy just a little center console to get me out there..

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BigFish
10-27-2008, 09:28 PM
Boy Freak you are driven! Looks like alot of work but I have no doubt she will look great when done and see her share of fish!!:tooth:

Raider Ronnie
10-28-2008, 06:16 AM
That thing going to have a tower ?

Raven
10-28-2008, 06:45 AM
i have a similar project in mind....
almost the same boat....:spin: that i got for free...
(off Craig's list ) i liked the hull too
but it's slated for next year....now

my philosophy being: get a real cheap boat
and then a fairly decent engine "someday" ...

i don't even have a trailer yet :doh:

it'll be grand to "see" your work...
i need doors and heat in/on my garage...

eelskimmer
10-30-2008, 08:28 AM
Freak,

Is that an orange Rogers lure I see in one of the pix.
I lost one just like that. Hold on to it for me would
you. PS you're an amazing dude to do all that frigging
work for a lousy fish or two. Take up pool it's safer.
BTW I fish with hookless lures now.

ProfessorM
10-30-2008, 09:05 AM
Look forward to seeing it along the way.

macojoe
10-30-2008, 09:44 AM
Looks great!!

I am a huge fan of a full transom! I had a bracket on my Wellcraft and I also have one on my Sea Ox.

No worry about back splash or water from the rips coming over the back! And you save a lot of room not needing a splash well.

Good Luck!

taJon
10-30-2008, 01:19 PM
I like the brackets too, but on a budget I would have the notched transom and self bailing deck.

thefishingfreak
11-05-2008, 11:44 PM
Stringers are in and glassed over.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/thefishingfreak/1105082330a.jpg
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nightfighter
11-06-2008, 06:05 AM
Awesome as usual. Much more manageble than that Trojan horssse from two years ago... Call me sometime when you need a hand for a weekend day as it gets colder.

And check this thread out too, Mike;


http://www.classicseacraft.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB3&Number=57362&page=1&view=collapsed&s%20b=5&o=&fpart=1

Christian
11-07-2008, 12:08 PM
nice!!!

think putting the engine on a bracket might make the bow point up too much? just tossing out a thought.

sokinwet
11-07-2008, 04:13 PM
"I was looking at a 20 Seacraft or this, I chose This."
Well maybe I'm a "little" biased but all that great work on a Seacraft would have given you a primo ride!

thefishingfreak
11-08-2008, 09:33 PM
I changed my mind It's going to be a pilothouse.
Since most of it's use will be when my buds wuss out because of the rain or bad weather, or when everyone elses boat is winterized.
I don't like bieng cold or getting wet :hee:
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Raider Ronnie
11-08-2008, 09:50 PM
I changed my mind It's going to be a pilothouse.
Since most of it's use will be when my buds wuss out because of the rain or bad weather, or when everyone elses boat is winterized.
I don't like bieng cold or getting wet :hee:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/thefishingfreak/PA280004.jpg
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"You don't like the cold" thats for sure and I'm sure you will be seated in front of my heater in the morning !
:uhuh:

thefishingfreak
11-08-2008, 10:04 PM
"You don't like the cold" thats for sure and I'm sure you will be seated in front of my heater in the morning !
:uhuh:


:uhuh:

thefishingfreak
11-09-2008, 10:05 PM
Got the top of the bow/ cabin all glassed over. I'll trim the extra mat off tomorrow and grind the edges smooth with the gunnel.
I'm kinda doing it in pieces because I have to pull it out of the shop during the day. So If it rains I don't want the wood to get wet, so I go as far as I can a step at a time then glass over for the night.


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thefishingfreak
11-11-2008, 11:12 PM
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BigFish
11-11-2008, 11:33 PM
Hey Mike it looks great! Is that gonna clear the door on the way out?? Nice work!:btu:

thefishingfreak
11-11-2008, 11:38 PM
It fits, Barely.
just enough room to put the masthead light on it.
I'll have about 2" clearance.

gone fishin
11-12-2008, 12:13 AM
Mike - you are the master of glass! Nice work.

afterhours
11-12-2008, 07:26 AM
you have mad skillz mike- great job!:kewl:

fish4striper
11-12-2008, 07:59 AM
It fits, Barely.
just enough room to put the masthead light on it.
I'll have about 2" clearance.

What about after the radar dome goes on? LOL

Looks great Mike

quick decision
11-12-2008, 02:39 PM
I have a radar bracket that will look sweet on the top of the pilot house.

Raider Ronnie
11-12-2008, 05:33 PM
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Make sure you really beef up that roof for when I'll be up there spotting the bait.
Put a helm up there while you're at it !

thefishingfreak
11-12-2008, 06:12 PM
Then it definitly won't fit in the shop.
how about a small step ladder instead..

taJon
11-13-2008, 05:26 PM
looks good mike. will it be ready for the cod? I really like the hand holds. A real nice touch.

Flaptail
11-13-2008, 07:20 PM
Man Mike, I'd give my left nut to have your talent. Awesome job bro!

thefishingfreak
11-13-2008, 10:22 PM
It will probly take me all winter to finish. Ready for the spring cod and mackeral.
Mocking stuff up is easy. it's going back and fitting everything, cutting all the weird angles, and making sure everything is square thats a pain. plus up and down the ladder a hundred times a night sucks.
I don't really have a build plan, It's more like a vauge idea and just kinda build as I go.

BigFish
11-13-2008, 10:26 PM
Thats how Picasso painted!:laugha:

Raven
11-14-2008, 05:09 AM
I don't really have a build plan, It's more like a vauge idea and just kinda build as I go.

that's called CREATIVE VISUALIZATION !!

a very adept skill that very few possess, Mike

so give yourself some credit... your doing great!

SAUERKRAUT
11-15-2008, 02:53 AM
This is a 1977 Angler Boats 19 foooter I been hacking up.

You are a talented man. I am also just starting a boat project for the winter: I got ahold of a bare hull 19', brand new. Any suggestion who build me a center consule that I will draw up and design? Power: 115 e-tech for the weight savings. Who will sell me one, new, fork lift it into the back of my truck, in the box (the easiest motor sale any business will ever do), and not demand that they mount the engine on my boat for an extra $2,000?

macojoe
11-15-2008, 03:43 AM
SAUERKRAUT This is a 1977 Angler Boats 19 foooter I been hacking up.

You are a talented man. I am also just starting a boat project for the winter: I got ahold of a bare hull 19', brand new. Any suggestion who build me a center consule that I will draw up and design? Power: 115 e-tech for the weight savings. Who will sell me one, new, fork lift it into the back of my truck, in the box (the easiest motor sale any business will ever do), and not demand that they mount the engine on my boat for an extra $2,000?
Yesterday 05:09 AM


You can get anyone to put a new etec in your truck, But unless you have a laptop with all the right programs, how do you think you are going to get it to work right??
And if you take and install yourself, you will have no warrantee!!

SAUERKRAUT
11-15-2008, 10:28 AM
Thank you about something I did not consider. I did this once before eight years ago with a Honda 50, and it has run for eight years right out of the box. I'm starting this project thinking and shopping in earnest now that the fishing season is gone. So...hopefully I can find a hungry dealer who will sell a motor and be the first one two start and "program" the engine when I bring it back as a finsihed piece.

The reason for the project is that I am a boataholic, obsessive, and I tend to get depressed and bored during the winter. Unnecessary: Morse MT-3 controls, hydraulic steering, maybe a jackplate, definitely not a consule with "drink holders" or a boat with railings. My way (and maybe not your way), and definitely not necessarily the NMEA or boat dealer way.

Bonds, Sauerkraut

zacs
11-17-2008, 11:27 AM
more pics from wknd?

thefishingfreak
11-18-2008, 11:15 PM
nothing new. lots of sanding. I'm getting ready to glass the roof in and I made the mounts for the fuel tank, thats about all.

thefishingfreak
11-29-2008, 09:54 PM
The roof is glassed over.
The gunnels are in place.
The bilge is about ready. I mounted the washdown pump, the bilge pump and float switch, the battery wireing and a few other odds and ends.
Tomorrow I'll put the deck down and tinker around some more. I'm wating on another 5 gallons of resin to show up from ups..



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BigFish
11-29-2008, 10:01 PM
Mad, mad, mad skilz! I can't wait to see her done!! :eyes:

nightfighter
11-30-2008, 09:42 AM
Lot of hours there, Mike. Always nice to reach the point where you are using solid color in your paint/resin.:claps:

Raider Ronnie
11-30-2008, 09:44 AM
Install the (large) seacock and pump now for the livewell before you put the deck down.
Where we going to have the livewell anyway ???

thefishingfreak
11-30-2008, 10:28 AM
the livewell and fishbox are going right in the middle of the deck, above the gas tank. It will drain thru the floor and out the transom. Thats what the big holes running back are. for the drain.

beamie
11-30-2008, 11:44 AM
Mike,

Nice idea for the drain so your not tripping over it all day but are you going to put an OB bracket on the stern......and will this bracket interfere with the drain thru the transom you just cut????

thefishingfreak
11-30-2008, 10:15 PM
it's offset quite a bit.
if any bracket it will be a small one like this.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/thefishingfreak/untitled.jpg

I got the gas tank permanantly mounted. the batteries in. a bunch of wireing. grounds for the fuel tank and fill Got the thru hull and scoop strainer in. grounded those. ran the fuel fill and vent. I'm waiting for fuel line to run so I can put the deck down.
I put the livewell - fishbox in the middle for a few reasons. Main one was I have a mint 44 Gallon fuel tank I wanted to use.. cause I'm cheap. But it's round, so it sticks up thru the deck. thats fine - perfect height for the livewell. plus I want the back deck completely open and no holding areas under the deck.
the fishbox is 44" long and 18" deep and 16 inches wide. I figured four 40" bass will fit snug. the livewell is 25 galllons.
It can double as a 3rd seat. plus there's room underneath for tackle box trays.
You kinda have to picture it all glassed in with a flip up door on the fishbox and a plexiglass lid on the livewell.

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Lower
12-05-2008, 10:59 AM
Just happened to run across this thread Mike. Very nicely done! Very impressive. I can truly appreciate your work as I went all in over a year ago. Bought plans for a 17' skiff and pulled the trigger on the build. It's all new to me, but I've learned a ton! Sometime soon I'll post some pics. I'm pretty much done with the hull and am about to flip to start on the inside!

Again, beautiful work. Seems everything takes twice as long as think it should!

JohnR
12-05-2008, 12:50 PM
A little concerned with balance, adding all of that weight forward, closing the transom, and popping an outboard on the back. If you use a flotation bracket that may add too much stern bouyancing and too much weight forward, maybe? That bracket pictured will help offset some of the weight (I think) provided there is not too much flotation. You may need to to do some water testing when the hull is done to see where the optimal location for batteries and such will be so if you need to locate them aft & low versus centrally, yada yada...

Anyway, just trying to picture boyancy, center of gravity, height, sail effect, etc...

Great work as usual! :btu:

thefishingfreak
12-05-2008, 05:12 PM
Thats all considered as best I could for now, without putting it in the water. The gas tank is in it's original location. The drivers and passengers seats are 2 feet back from where they were. Batteries are aft and under the deck with room to slide them back about 2 feet if needed. anchor storage in the stern under the deck. if needed. The front structure and roof are only luan glassed over so it's not that much weight up there. but suprizingly strong.
I was thinking of putting the motor on the back and floating it. if it seems right then notch the transom. if it's too bow heavy get the small bracket to offset it somewhat. It had a 100 on it I'm going with a 175 :bo:

Just finished insulating the fish box and running all the drains for it, and the livewell. fuel water filter and some other stuff. some wireing.
I'm taking a break for a little while I'm spending alot of time on it. working till 10:30- 11:00 every night. not burning out, but classic case of isolating which is not good. :hs:

fishaholic18
12-05-2008, 08:54 PM
Nice job Mike...Looking forward to seeing the finished product.:kewl::kewl:

Channell99
12-05-2008, 09:59 PM
Wow that is soo neat the boat is really coming along. Cant wit to see it finished

JohnR
12-06-2008, 08:35 AM
Great work Mike :btu: , Ready for your next project :hee: ?

Raider Ronnie
12-08-2008, 06:09 PM
So Mike,
When ( & if ) this boat is done, what we going to name it ?
I'm guessing it's not going to be number 2 from the name of the Grady !
I say we call it the (Slim Shady )

thefishingfreak
12-08-2008, 06:12 PM
Fishbucket

MrHunters
12-18-2008, 08:58 AM
:hidin:

thefishingfreak
12-18-2008, 12:12 PM
it's covered up with a tarp and out in the snow. with another 6" this weekend expected, it will be buried even more.

Uncle Matt
12-18-2008, 07:18 PM
Pussy. Afraid of a little snow? Why don't you just whip up a garage and keep this project going. Without it my winter's gonna suck!

Of course I'm only kidding Freak. Happy Holidays my friend.

GattaFish
12-18-2008, 11:15 PM
that's called CREATIVE VISUALIZATION !!

a very adept skill that very few possess, Mike

so give yourself some credit... your doing great!


Sure is,,,,, Man has SKILZ,,,,

MrHunters
12-19-2008, 02:47 PM
i suppose that's a good excuse :)

it's already snowing like a sumwunavabiatch here.

thefishingfreak
12-19-2008, 06:29 PM
Shop is for making money first and formost and boat restorations and everything else second. you have to make it to spend it.:hihi:

Grapenuts
12-20-2008, 07:33 PM
Lots of fun work there Mike ..looking good,,been there.....one sugestion would be if not planned on would be a rain gutter on top of the roof in the very back...it only has to be a small strip of wood 3/4-1" high from side to side...it sure keeps the rain from running down the back of your neck when going in an out of the cabin.

Mr. Sandman
01-01-2009, 09:19 AM
I like the design but did you run any numbers on the static weight distribution to determine the approximate change to the static trim angle? That hull form, from the looks of it does not have a lot of reserve buoyancy forward ( a little weight forward will cause it to submerge a lot and trim by the bow which can be pretty dangerous. All that wood and glass is very heavy. Most pilot houses on small boats are made of foam and thin glass or Kevlar and are much lighter. It might be ok while under way but when you slow down in any kind of sea it could get ugly fast. It might be OK but I'd be careful on your first rough water sea-trial.

Other than that you do nice work, I like the design.... Seems like a lot of time (and work) for a little boat though esp considering the current used boat market these days. You must really like the smell of fiberglass resin.:hee:

Swimmer
01-01-2009, 12:07 PM
For the first time I went through this entire post. I am truly impressed. My grandfather use to build and repair boats. He would be very impressed.

Raider Ronnie
01-14-2009, 09:53 PM
So Mike,
This project still going ?

thefishingfreak
01-14-2009, 10:32 PM
Come over here and shovel it out
Were jammed at work, no room for it inside now. It can wait I have friends with boats :hee:

Raider Ronnie
03-08-2009, 08:40 PM
Yo Mike,
Any update ?

sportsman
04-02-2009, 03:49 PM
So freak did you give up on the Angler project?????

or are we just :deadhorse:

thefishingfreak
04-02-2009, 04:03 PM
Didn't give up..
it's out front covered up. Don't forget it was burried in snow till what... like a week ago. :smash:
been helping other friends get thier boats ready lately. This wiil probly sit till late fall seeing as the season is upon us. :hee:

sportsman
04-02-2009, 04:43 PM
I hadn't heard anything so I thought a shot was in order.
How've you been???

MrHunters
04-17-2009, 05:28 AM
took a 4 month website hiatus and figured you'd be on your next boat by now ;)

how goes the battle freak.

thefishingfreak
04-18-2009, 12:49 PM
work will resume late fall.
now is not the time to build boats. there are fish to catch

thefishingfreak
11-29-2009, 09:07 PM
It's late fall :hidin:

ProfessorM
11-29-2009, 10:02 PM
looking really good Mike.