WE CAN :grins:

Yes we have.

A good night it has been. A good night indeed.

We're screwed.:rollem:

YA THINK? I told my wife last nite to give it 6 months or a year and let's see how many people will be looking for change by then.

We're screwed.:rollem:

be careful what you wish for.....

now the post election rush
followed by the honeymoon hundred days
followed by 1500 days of, can I vote the b********d out?
Hopefully this dude has more to offer than Deval, his main bud.

hen we can reelect a Bush - Jeb!!

I will sit here this morning after this historic and flawed (no, not flawed over fraud but by poor candidates) election and pray that Eben, Likwid, Spence, BssB, et al are smarter than me. I know Brian is smarter than me - he's an effin' scientist for cryin' out loud.

I now need to Hope that O will be a center-moderate Prez and that the 18% approval rating congress will find in their hearts the need to make rational decisions and not feel like they have the keys to the candy store. If congress does too much of this:
:rumble:,

which is what I expect, we're in for a world of hurt.

I now need to Hope that our nations enemies will not feel emboldened, and should that happen, O can meet that challenge and the congress can develop enough spine to support O and that the right decisions will be made.

I hope congress does more to grow the pie, to support jobs and invest in technologies central to America's Technological & Entrepreneurial leadership in the world - before we get passed by. I hope congress does not choose to simply further divide the existing pie.

I hope that the viciousness of the (radical?) far left does not mirror the viciousness of the far right (Freepers) - for a bunch of peacenik hippies they sure seem to have a mean streak (and are in need a beating).
:deadhorse:

I sincerely hope that O can accomplish unifying this country in a positive way, support those that keep this country free (this is big in my book), and right some of the wrongs of the past 8 years.

:lama:

Four years, the clock just started ticking. Do a good job O, and you'll have my support for the next 4. Turn us into the PRC or Europeanize our Country, then :cens: you in 4.

Godspeed, O

I'm fiercely Independent, and I approve this message :D

hen we can reelect a Bush - Jeb!!

Haven't had enough war have you?

Congrats to MA.

No on 1
Yes on 2
Yes on 3

Good to see the state has SOME common effing sense.

Haven't had enough war have you?

Congrats to MA.

No on 1
Yes on 2
Yes on 3

Good to see the state has SOME common effing sense.


However, we reelected The Gigilo and hard bottom

My biggest fear is that entrepreneurs will say screw it, it is just not worth it anymore. The top combined tax rate will be over 50% now. Why work at all??, let the gov take care of me. 35% pay no tax, the top 1% pay now pay 40% of the tax burden...and he wants to make that 50%. Unreal. IMO he effectively bought this position by offering the masses redistribution to those that just want handouts.

My second biggest fear is the gutting of the military and safety of the US citizens. Wait till the next domestic terrorist attack, and real foreign threats from Iran and N. Korea. The %$%$%$%$ will hit the fan then.

Most voters are short sighted and naive. Stock futures are headed down. Better get out before that cap gains kicks in next year.

i wish our country well..can't feel comfortable when one party controls the executive and legislative branches.

John Rs response was brlliant and I echo his comments 100%.
As far as the MA vote, I am bummed about the income tax and dog tracks, heres to more unemplyoment in MA and wasted state spending. Glad the pot measure was passed. Who'd a thought thats the only thing I voted for that won!

Good response John.

As I've posted lately, many pundits on both sides have said he will end up being a more traditional, center left president. I tend to agree.
After 8 years of a downward slide, lets hope we can make the climb up. either side would have had a hard road up this hill.

As has been discussed here, I actually think it is a good thing that the right still has filibuster capabilities, as long as it isn't abused.

Good luck.
lets keep the debate coming!

JohnR :kewl: very well said....

One thing that I really enjoyed about yesterday was the fact that the youth of the country actually put down the controllers long enough to make it to the polls. Agree with who they voted for or not at least they voted and got involved, actually feel like they made a difference. That right there is an encouraging sign.

:rolleyes:

Nebe, dont forget, if your erection lasts for more than 4 hours you need to call a doctor

People were actually smiling and smiling at me on my way to work this morning. Hope is more powerful than fear. :jump1:

...he's got his work cut out for him.

People were actually smiling and smiling at me on my way to work this morning. Hope is more powerful than fear. :jump1:

and actions speak louder than words

...he's got his work cut out for him.

You ain't kiddin'. Hopefully he uses his smarts to surround himself with some really good people. This country's in pretty rough shape right now and it's going to take a while to get it back on track.

New Rules... if your erection lasts more than 4 hours, you need to call more chicks.....

I forget what stand-up said that, but it was 'If it lasts more than four hours, I'm not calling my doctor, I'm calling everyone!'


I was very happy last night, but I absolutely agreee regardless of who won it is a tough job for sure.

The big test is going to be putting together a staff. Even if I wont be happy if he fills his staff with complete far-leftist moonbats :angel:

I think he is smart enough to surround himself with smart people.

...he's got his work cut out for him.

ES44 - I threw a dart or three at the CambridgePort Saloon :tooth:

(and worked for other "saloons" in the Father's Hubbel Cafe company back in the 90s)

Nebe, dont forget, if your erection lasts for more than 4 hours you need to call a doctor

Im hopping it lasts at least 4 years. :lama:

I think he is smart enough to surround himself with smart people.

Ugh,,,,he hasnt in the past, why would he start now! :hs:

Ugh,,,,he hasnt in the past, why would he start now! :hs:

Yeah.
lets pound on reverend wright some more.
Worked well in the election... :cens:

Read the last lines. Crossing party lines perhaps... :huh:
I'd have no problem keeping gates on...

(CNN) -- Even before Sen. Barack Obama won the presidential election, he was quietly building a transition team.

In fact, both Obama and Sen. John McCain were laying the groundwork to shift from campaign to White House transition -- the 10 weeks between the election and the inauguration isn't enough time to assemble a team to lead the country.

CNN Political Editor Mark Preston said Obama's victory speech on Tuesday launched the transition.

"The campaign was over when McCain called to concede," Preston said. "Tonight's speech was about governing. It was a very serious tone -- he was setting the tone, taking his first steps as president." VideoWatch Obama's acceptance speech »

CNN Senior Political Analyst Gloria Borger said that it's important to take steps quickly to set the right tone, pointing to President Clinton, who waited weeks to fill Cabinet positions and announced many of his top staffers just five days before he was sworn in.

"Everything you do early on in a presidency gets magnified. You don't want to make the same mistakes that Bill Clinton made," Borger said.

Obama has no public events scheduled on Wednesday. He will most likely travel to Hawaii soon for the funeral of his grandmother, who died on Monday.

He is expected to name his White House chief of staff as early as Wednesday. Rep. Rahm Emanuel, a Chicago colleague, is the clear front-runner for the job. Possible appointees for Obama's administration »

Emanuel helped lead Democrats to majority control of the House in 2006. He was elected to the House in 2002 and is currently the fourth-highest-ranking member of the chamber's Democratic leadership.

He also worked on President Clinton's first presidential campaign and served as a White House adviser to Clinton.

John Podesta, a former chief of staff under President Bill Clinton, will be among those leading Obama's transition team. Valerie Jarrett, one of Obama's top advisers, and Peter Rouse, Obama's Senate chief of staff, will also be involved the effort.

Jarrett told CNN that Obama will begin making public his plans for the transition soon.

"In the days ahead, you will be hearing more directly from Sen. Obama ... about the steps that he'll be taking to get prepared to lead on January 20," she said shortly after Obama gave his victory speech.

Filling out his economic team is a top priority for Obama as he begins to implement a strategy to quell the economic crisis.

"This is one of the first times that I can remember that the secretary of the treasury is going to be almost as important as the secretary of state," said David Gergen, a senior political analyst for CNN, who served in the Reagan and Clinton administrations.

Names circulating for the secretary of the treasury position include Timothy Geithner, Lawrence Summers and Paul Volcker, among others.

Geithner helped deal with Wall Street's financial meltdown earlier this year, overseeing the acquisition of Bear Stearns by JPMorgan Chase and the bailouts of AIG and Lehman Brothers. He was appointed president of the New York Federal Reserve in November 2003.

Summers was appointed treasury secretary in July 1999 and served as the chief economist of the World Bank from 1991 through 1993. Prior to his career in government, he taught economics at Harvard.

Volcker is a former chairman of the Federal Reserve, serving under Presidents Carter and Reagan. He also worked in the private sector as an investment banker and headed the investigation into the United Nations' oil-for-food program for Iraq.

The White House is holding an economic summit on November 15. Obama could delay naming his economic team in order to avoid interfering with the G-20 summit.

Obama's national security team is another priority as the country fights wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It could also be an area where he goes outside his party for an appointee.

Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel and current Defense Secretary Robert Gates are among the names floating around for that team.

Hagel, who was elected to the Senate in 1996 and is a Vietnam veteran, has been a fierce critic of the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq war.

Gates has served in Bush's cabinet for almost two years. He worked for the Central Intelligence Agency for 27 years, serving as its director from 1991 through 1993. He also served as deputy national security adviser under President George H. W. Bush.

"What Barack Obama has to do in the transition time is set the tone," Borger said. "If he reaches out to Republicans in the cabinet -- if he decided to keep Bob Gates at Defense -- that's really, really important."

Actually Bryan, the McCain campaign never touched Rev. Wright, never came up once.

Thats my own personal grievance with our President elect.

Actually Bryan, the McCain campaign never touched Rev. Wright, never came up once.

Thats my own personal grievance with our President elect.

McCain didn't, but the RNC did...

I think your going to see a who's who on the list of cabinet people.
From the left, center and right if they are qualified...


..

I am very curious to see who he chooses for his cabinet. I do think that all of you who are scared chitless that we just elected a socialist into office need to realize that all of us have been pummeled with fear tactics from both sides and have seen the negatives of both Obama and McCain amplified 100%..

I dont dare to imagine that Omama is going to save the universe overnight, but I do say with confidence that he will be a huge improvement over what he have had the last 8 years. Mccain would have been an improvement as well... but my greatest issue with the thought of McCain winning was that he would not flush DC of those who were responsible for getting us in the mess that we are in in regards to Iraq..

I view yesterday as a regime change and I cant wait to see someone in office that will focus on the issues of our country and focus less on screwing with other countries...

I think that the Obama supporters on this board have been pretty gracious.

Please Mr. Obama. Please take Deval Patrick from us here in Massachusetts and add him to your cabinet. I'll even drive him down to DC in my car.

I hope he does nice things for old people :tooth:

It's a sad day for the U.S. of A.

It's a sad day for the U.S. of A.

No, its a sad day for you.

The MAJORITY are happy.

It's a sad day for the U.S. of A.

As a MAJOR critic of BO, I disagree. This is a historic day. I think its great we have an African American president.

We'll talk again - 11/5/09:eyes:

He can speak and he's charismatic. Sounds like fluff and it is, but there is a corelation between the occurance of a positive economy when people have faith in the president. A 54% percent approval rating is a lot better than a 23% rating.

As a MAJOR critic of BO, I disagree. This is a historic day. I think its great we have an African American president.

I can't believe some of the responses on the slo-jo website:
'www.projo.com' 'your turn'

The 1017 response is to me, the logical type of response that I hope most people feel if they voted for McCain. They offer a position they hope BO takes, points out an obvious, w/o being negative... Sounds like an RIJ response...

The others.
I only hope it is one right-wing-nut posting all of these...

November 5, 2008 10:17 a.m.

The best man - John McCain - sadly lost. Obama's election is a historical event, but Obama must govern from the center to have any hope of success, or Republicans will overtake the House and Senate in 2010, and the Presidency overwhelmingly in 2012.

November 5, 2008 10:14 a.m.

This is a REAL sad day for Americans. We are looking at a guy who believes in partial birth abortion, giving illegals drivers licenses, giving money to those who DO NOT pay any taxes, cavorting and associating with KNOWN terrorists who HATE this country, wants to change the Constitution so that conservatives cannot have radio talk shows,...etc. It is clear we are living in the last days where God has sent those who do not believe in him a strong delusion so that they CANNOT believe. You had better WAKE UP!!!!!

November 5, 2008 10:13 a.m.

Lord, forgive them for they know not what they've done. Clearly, Americans are scared for their future. Scared plus ignorant equals disaster.

November 5, 2008 10:12 a.m.

Obama is not our first Black President, he is our first bi-racial president. He is not African-American either he was born in Hawaii (or so he says). I was a die-hard Democrat until this election, and I don't change my opinions easy. Let's just hope the next four years go by quickly and without too much change (I like my paper money)

November 5, 2008 10:05 a.m.

November 5- I so agree... The Antichrist has arrived. The salvation of all souls is imperative!

I disagree with you there Joe, this economy has nothing to do with Bush or any decisions he has made. There are major core issues with the foundation that was built upon the last 4 years of so. Its convenient to point fingers and believe we can get out of this with confidence, buts thats a pipe dream. Many more layoffs are coming, Holiday sales will be abysmal and the market will get crushed. We have another 15-20% to drop in the housing market. Imagine what that will do to the current problem. There is very little Obama can do to help this economy, his needs to be not to do anything that will make it worse.

Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton - charismatic
Nixon, Carter, Ford, Bush 41, Bush 43 - not charismatic.
Its not nearly that simple, but consumer spending does drive our economy and consumer spending is dependent to a large degree on faith.

You're right, 72% of our econmy is consumer spending. I guess my point is that people are not going to spend because there is the very real possibility they may lose there jobs, the president has little impact on that.
I know my family has already had the discussion that we wont give gifts for adults this year, kids only.

Start a right-wing message board with a bunch of anti-Obama tees, stickers, coffee cups, hats. Your economy will improve.

I'm glad it is over with.
Not happy with Barney being re-elected by a landslide, obviously people in this state are uninformed:(
I have faith the country will get thru this economic crisis, if not, we're screwed.

NO CHIT and add MARKEY to the list too Bruce. :smash:

I'm glad it is over with.
Not happy with Barney being re-elected by a landslide, obviously people in this state are uninformed:(
I have faith the country will get thru this economic crisis, if not, we're screwed.

Not bad, but that image would not print well and lacks resonance with people under 40.
One would need to come up with a cultural touchstone that is nearly universal, one that trancends all ages, incomes, and shades of white people.

ES44 - I threw a dart or three at the CambridgePort Saloon :tooth:

(and worked for other "saloons" in the Father's Hubbel Cafe company back in the 90s)

Did you really? Place wasnt bad, not too mention the sub $2 beers and $3 shots. :cheers2:

The city shut it down right before the starbucks-abercrombie and only-banks-can-afford-the-lease takeover of central square. That was a sad day. The handful of bar fights didnt help either, but it was a place close to the old neighborhoods heart. It was one of last great bars on Mass Ave this side of the Charles but I guess good things dont last forever. When woolworths left central, I knew the big money seige was on...

Did you really? Place wasnt bad, not too mention the sub $2 beers and $3 shots. :cheers2:

The city shut it down right before the starbucks-abercrombie and only-banks-can-afford-the-lease takeover of central square. That was a sad day. The handful of bar fights didnt help either, but it was a place close to the old neighborhoods heart. It was one of last great bars on Mass Ave this side of the Charles but I guess good things dont last forever. When woolworths left central, I knew the big money seige was on...

I liked the place. I shot darts (and worked) at Father's Too outside of Kenmore and we would frequently play against the A-Team at CPS. I thoroughly enjoyed beating their Ace more often than not because he was a cocky basstird, kissing his trophies and such trying to intimidate us :shocked: :buds: :jester:.

Missed the Buck-A-Shot we used to come with on a monthly basis off the cheap end of the speedrack. Also miss the 1$ Busch bottles when things got tight just before a paycheck...

Yep - good (dive) bars :cheers:

I wouldn't be surprised if most of those good old haunts are gone, The Tam, Father's Fifth, Beacon Hill Pub, Back Bay Pub, etc...

Did you really? Place wasnt bad, not too mention the sub $2 beers and $3 shots. :cheers2:

The city shut it down right before the starbucks-abercrombie and only-banks-can-afford-the-lease takeover of central square. That was a sad day. The handful of bar fights didnt help either, but it was a place close to the old neighborhoods heart. It was one of last great bars on Mass Ave this side of the Charles but I guess good things dont last forever. When woolworths left central, I knew the big money seige was on...

I miss the Golden Donut in Central Square.

Wow, this thread drifted from an Historic Moment, to Drinking History :eyes:

i wish our country well..can't feel comfortable when one party controls the executive and legislative branches.

How'd you feel from 2000-2006? ;)

How'd you feel from 2000-2006? ;)

uncomfortable.

YA THINK? I told my wife last nite to give it 6 months or a year and let's see how many people will be looking for change by then.

change :bl:

I'm glad it is over with.
Not happy with Barney being re-elected by a landslide, obviously people in this state are uninformed:(
I have faith the country will get thru this economic crisis, if not, we're screwed.

SUCH A TERRIBLE MAN FOR HELPING GIVE YOU SHORE ACCESS AND HELPING FISHING IN GENERAL IN THIS STATE!

GOD THROW THE BUM OUT!

Uninformed.
Right.

SUCH A TERRIBLE MAN FOR HELPING GIVE YOU SHORE ACCESS AND HELPING FISHING IN GENERAL IN THIS STATE!

GOD THROW THE BUM OUT!

Uninformed.
Right.

Apparently 202,254 others thought he deserved another chance, I didn't and was informed.

You wanna keep a man in office that is not helping to fix what he himself had a lot to do with screwing up the fannie mae crap, go ahead, make your day(can he share his wealth with me, I could use it). Time to get out those responsible for F'ing up the economy. Who has he answered to? That whole bailout thing is a joke and those who profited can rot in hell. The other candidate would have done a fine job with access and fishermen issues, unfortunately he didn't get the chance,






this time.

:deadhorse::deadhorse:



Mac, that is funny

At least someone ran against Frank.

Down here, Delahunt ran unopposed. 70% of the offices on my ballot only had one candidate. :(

but my greatest issue with the thought of McCain winning was that he would not flush DC of those who were responsible for getting us in the mess that we are in in regards to Iraq..


Does that include all of the Democratic Senators who voted for the war?? Or just the Republicans?

considering they were all lied to? I dont think so.

Heads will roll 1 year from now.

I"m not too surprised by the responses on this board. After all, Obama didn't do too well with white men.

Of course it isn't going to happen overnight, but I really do have faith Obama can at least lay the groundwork for getting us out of this mess. Like him or hate him, the people have spoken and he will be our President.

My fear is that San Francisco morals will soon be shoved down our throats with the likes of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid now in complete unchecked control.

Like Tolerance? Acceptance? I'm confused on what you mean here...

Like Tolerance? Acceptance? I'm confused on what you mean here...

Naming sewage treatment plants after horrible politicians?

Naming sewage treatment plants after horrible politicians?

:laugha: I think that can be very appropriate.

Please Mr. Obama. Please take Deval Patrick from us here in Massachusetts and add him to your cabinet. I'll even drive him down to DC in my car.


You wouldn't have to drive him. He has his own Cadillac:rotf2:

You wouldn't have to drive him. He has his own Cadillac:rotf2:

There's a priest just over the border in one of the more affluent CT towns driving a 7 series BMW completely loaded.

My fear is that San Francisco morals will soon be shoved down our throats with the likes of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid now in complete unchecked control.

Watching Bill O'Reilly much....

Watching Bill O'Reilly much....

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Thank you for posting that likwid. My grandson was justleaning over my shoulder as I was reading this.