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Anyone have a new Apple (Mac)
I've heard nothing but good things about them and from talking to some salesmen, they never get viruses or splware (slowing them down)
any opinions ???
Thanks

You won't be sorry if you buy a mac

I have heard the same also. When ever i get my new laptop i know im getting a mac.

Not sure this belongs here so mods move it if necessary !


Anyone have a new Apple (Mac)
I've heard nothing but good things about them and from talking to some salesmen, they never get viruses or splware (slowing them down)
any opinions ???
Thanks
All my graphic design people use them.
If you just want do that stuff, and browse the internet buy it.
If you want software like games, websites etc.. your'e stuck with intel.
However, you can buy a linux box, ask JohnR

You won't be sorry if you buy a mac




So tell me why !
Advantages !
Seems like a bit of learning curve compared to using windows!

quite a bit more expensive. I am also thinking about a new lap top and am considering them too.

i think macs are just

well made
different operating system: windows vs apple operating system (very stable)

and i think all the bad stuff (virus/spyware) were created to work on windows due to the huge market share vs less people on a mac pc/operating system

So tell me why !
Advantages !
Seems like a bit of learning curve compared to using windows!

You only have 1 mouse button
It's cool

I can't think of anything else.

oh, MacAir, ITunes, instant connectivity, ease of setup and a rock solid OS

But try to find software for it?

and a 30 pct premium from a intel machine.

Love this stuff....if there are no viruses for macs then why is there anti-virus software for macs??? Just keep believing the salesman at the MAC store....he is your friend :rolleyes:

The only thing different is the O/S....everthing else is the same.....oh yeah accept the price.....thats different.

Ever wonder why the guy in the "Hello I'm a MAC" commercial looks like he is unemployed.....oh but he is Cool....thats important in a computer....coolness :kewl:

But if you want a Computer that only about 10% of the software companies design software for....go for it.....Oh thats right you can always run Windows on top of the Apple O/S to do that.....:huh:

Drink up....

Graphic design = Mac ...... Business and commercial use = PC.
Don't get fooled with the virus and trojan horses story. Mac can get hit just as a PC can. Dad F hits it solidly! :agree:

Graphic design = Mac ...... Business and commercial use = PC.
Don't get fooled with the virus and trojan horses story. Mac can get hit just as a PC can. Dad F hits it solidly! :agree:

I don't think it is as black and white as you are making it out.

A Mac is better suited for any sort of graphics, any sort of music (composing, mixing, etc.) any field that is even slightly touching the arts. As to business, ALL of Microsoft's major business apps have Mac versions that run faster than the PC versions. The transparency and compatibility from platform to platform is there. Yes, Macs can and do get viruses, but no where near as many and they are much easier to protect. The OS is so superior to any Windows OS it is not even a contest. As to cost, by the time you finish adding all the extras to a PC machine just to get to where a Mac is out of the box, the cost difference is not that great. And you do not have to be a propeller head to become a "power user" on a Mac.

Ronnie I have a new Imac. I love the thing. It took a little getting used to, the mouse is different, and finding things like files. Let me tell you, if I turn this thing and my dell or any other windows based computer on at the same time, the Mac is fully booted up in about 60 seconds, as opposed to 2-5 minutes for the others. The graphics are out of this world. I have their office suite, and it is easy to use and very similar to Microsoft. I also have Photoshop Elements which is the bomb. Also as noted above every program runs way faster than on my windows computers. If I open the same word docs on both computers, I could be done editing and printing it up on the mac before the dell even loads it for use.


As far as viruses, it has some built in protection, but Mac keeps their source very tight, and not alot of people want to mess with them in general. Alot of people can't stand Gates, and Microsoft thats why there are so many viruses that affect windows based computers.

Go to the Apple store, make a few trips and play with them , and talk to a sales guy

Seems like a bit of learning curve compared to using windows!

Ronnie
The learning curve is not that hard at all. Most every function on a Mac is intuitive. Once you get over your PC habits of doing things, you will wonder why they made it so hard on a PC and so easy on a Mac. As I said earlier you do not have to be a propeller head to become a "power user" on a Mac. As TheSpecialist said, Macs are fast. I go from turning my machine on to being on line in 45 seconds including log in. Time is money.

I'm a full time graphic designer and have owned about five macs total and have not only worked on them but done just about everything on them over the last 7 years and never got a virus.

Also, I've never had one crash on me or any hardware die, for the exception of a logic board on a powerbook, which I seriously beat the crap out of (awake until 4am finishing work while looking on the internet along with downloading torrents and printing pass projects).

All macs currently purchased come with a mighty mouse, which does have a right click. As far as the price difference goes I suppose you can compare it to a VS. Everything you just spent on money on is right in front of you, which isn't much but thats the point. Less things to go wrong. Simplicity is bliss.

I like Macs, sometime down the road I will pick up a used Intel based MAC.... So as not to turn this into a MAC-v-PC thing

Couple things, my PC boots in less than a minute, is rock solid, and will smoke 95% of MACs (though I only have a cheap <$100 graphics card). My new (work) Vista laptop, Dell E6500, is pretty nice and is the same way.

Which is better, MAC or PC? Really depends on what you are going to do with it. Which is better for you? Really depends if you are up for re-learning how to do things. The MAC is a bit simpler and can do more of somethings out of the box with Music and Movies. The PC has far more business support and gaming support than the MAC.

As someone that had 800 PCs and 800 or so MACs in an environment, the MACs used somewhat less support, did less overall work, and had just as many infuriating issues. It was a wash...

M$ did mess up with Vista, a lot of potential with some headaches too...

What is wrong with your computer? Or just time for a change?

The Mac is a specialized tool very similar to the Van Staal. If you need the tool get it but be prepared to pay up. If you are just surfing the web, sending e-mail and running basic software (word, excel...) save the dough and by a PC.

With OSX,in order to install anything on the root of the computer,your prompted for a username and password. It would be pretty hard to install something malicious unknowingly.

You can do the same with XP. Give every user a "user" account so no software will be installed without the administrators permission.

Always loved this skit....especially the people in the audience....Typical Mac-Bots :hihi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZKjJt-TkU

This one was better :hihi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mCCYLC-4xA

-spence

I was going to post that one too....but I decided to be nice....:hihi:

MAC -v- PC

to put in perspective

Boat -v- Shore

Macs don't Count...:hee:

MAC -v- PC

to put in perspective

Boat -v- Shore


That's not fair. Boats COUNT!!!

That's not fair. Boats COUNT!!!

:lama::rotf3::crying::hee::fishslap::rtfm:

I know where you fish

I just picked up a new Mac book 2 weeks ago, I paid $999.00
IMO that isn't alot of money for what I got
And it runs all microsoft apps.

This thing is super fast, I don't know anything about PC's I never used one

I forgot to add it comes with a free printer

Here is a link to a well written, objective Mac vs. PC article.

http://www.switched.com/2008/08/06/mac-vs-pc/

I just picked up a new Mac book 2 weeks ago, I paid $999.00
IMO that isn't alot of money for what I got
And it runs all microsoft apps.

This thing is super fast, I don't know anything about PC's I never used one


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115500R

and it runs all microsoft apps....:hee:

Couple things, my PC boots in less than a minute, is rock solid, and will smoke 95% of MACs (though I only have a cheap <$100 graphics card).

Not fair you have an advantage over us computer illiterate baboons, you got mad skillz :kewl:

K. how much for that? I think the Apples are too expensive for what I am going to use it for. Nice units but $$$ is an issue for me. I am looking at Dell.

It was $387.....but it looks like they are all sold out

thank you for info

I use both between home and work,I'll give my take on it..While I prefer Macs,I'm by no means a Kool Aid drinking fanboy that would walk off the edge of the mountain if Steve said to. For me,the preference is in the OS. With OSX,in order to install anything on the root of the computer,your prompted for a username and password. It would be pretty hard to install something malicious unknowingly. Another major difference is that there is no registry with OS X. Therefore no shared dll or ini files. When you want to get rid of a program,drag it to the trash and that's it.You're not prompted about shared dll's etc. There is also no BIOS with a Mac.Startup times are pretty quick. As far as a learning curve,it's kind of like reinventing the wheel.Not that hard really. In regard to cost of software,for most home users Neo Office (Open Office ported to OS X) is more than enough for documents,spreadsheets etc. Thunderbird is a great mail app that I use..Both are open source,free. I also have a Windows box because I like to tweak. Upgrades are a snap with a PC. With a Mac,components are somewhat more proprietary. Tho I did upgrade the RAM and hardrive on my Macbook easily.Costwise, a PC can't be beat. With some of the price points now,PC's are almost becoming disposable. Vista,well that's a whole nuther issue.Tho there are speed tweaks for it,it still can be a major biatch at times..I'm wondering how the next Window's OS will be?
I would sum it up as follows:
If you're a hardcore gamer,stick with PC
If you get processor envy and tweak your computer often,stick with a PC
If you're in a newtorked office that uses Windows,stick with a PC

None of the above,a Mac works..



I'm a hardcore gamer and my pc boots up in real short time.Apps run like lightning and my vid card pushes my 27.5 inch monitor on high with no problems.OS is XP Pro because I tried the vista and couldn't stand it's incompatible with most of the applications I use to keep my XP install clean and sound.Can't play games on a MAC so I don't have or want one.They do look cool and all the important people own them.They are also in all the movies.

I ordered a pretty ballsy Dell for the apartment; Quad core processor, 500GB Hard drive etc etc.. w/ 20" flat panel for 700ish shipped...

Check your place of employment, they might have additional discounts (Prof M; talking to you) Through the Univ affiliation I got an additional 7% off (covers the tax) and free shipping...

I grew up on macs.. I am a professional artist and do my own graphic design and digital photography... long story short, I switched over to PC's..why??? PC's used to be business based and would not work with most graphic design software or at least not as well as macs.... not any more.

I grew up on macs.. I am a professional artist and do my own graphic design and digital photography... long story short, I switched over to PC's..why??? PC's used to be business based and would not work with most graphic design software or at least not as well as macs.... not any more.

The new PC's with quad cores ,high speed memory and newest graphics cards can do just about anything.I was running dual nvidia 8800gtx's with 768mb on each card.They burnt out in under 2 years.Fast is an understatement and I have a dual core AMD processor.Now it's Call of Duty World at War multiplayer until spring.World War II games are the best.:rocketem::gf::buds::rocketem::liquify::gf: :rotf2::cheers2:

I grew up on macs.. I am a professional artist and do my own graphic design and digital photography... long story short, I switched over to PC's..why??? PC's used to be business based and would not work with most graphic design software or at least not as well as macs.... not any more.

shhhh.....Don't let Steve Jobs here you talk like that...it'll be back in the closet for you.

Thanks for all the advice and input. (and arguing amongst yourselves )
John R set me in the right direction !:kewl:

and you thought it was going to be easy....

Not fair you have an advantage over us computer illiterate baboons, you got mad skillz :kewl: Not "Mad Skilz" amung my peers but I do OK :tooth: . Your Verizon I'm ready to blow up. Technically great, billing been AFU for a year now and I STILL don't have my TV

I ordered a pretty ballsy Dell for the apartment; Quad core processor, 500GB Hard drive etc etc.. w/ 20" flat panel for 700ish shipped...

Check your place of employment, they might have additional discounts (Prof M; talking to you) Through the Univ affiliation I got an additional 7% off (covers the tax) and free shipping... :btu:

I grew up on macs.. I am a professional artist and do my own graphic design and digital photography... long story short, I switched over to PC's..why??? PC's used to be business based and would not work with most graphic design software or at least not as well as macs.... not any more. Well said. Simple truth is they are (usually) both good rigs and the MAC used to have a graphics edge, no longer does, and is a matter of preference. I do wish Windows engineers were were more consistent with their product.

Thanks for all the advice and input. (and arguing amongst yourselves )
John R set me in the right direction !:kewl:
It's a good rig, fast too, faster than my home rig, maybe...

and you thought it was going to be easy.... :wall: Never is