http://wbztv.com/politics/tedkennedy/senator.ted.kennedy.2.950012.html

Kind of waters down the whole being knighted thing. Oh, um, sorry, no pun intended

Maybe Mary-Jos parents would like to hold the sword.

:hihi:

Maybe Mary-Jos parents would like to hold the sword.


Very similar thought process you and I.

Maybe he should get crowned.:scream:

Why not--he's probably contributed more to the economy of Scotland than any other still-living human being.

Sir Ted of the Many Chivases. :hihi::rotflmao:

Why not--he's probably contributed more to the economy of Scotland than any other still-living human being.

Sir Ted of the Many Chivases. :hihi::rotflmao:
:rotf2: Or Sir Ted of Glenlivit :buds:

well lets not forget Ireland

Mary-Jo Kopechne would be 69 this year.:alien:

keep seeing his broadcast on national tv day after.bet he had tape destroyed.what a bunch of bull s____!

Time has a way of dulling our memories and lends itself towards one person forgiving another for something one person did. Whether it was to you or against another person, such as Ted against Mary Joe Kopechne, thier does come a time when your anger towards him should reach a balance for and against him, where you don't like or dislike Ted Kennedy. I think this should occur in everything even when a death is involved at some point. I believe even the Kopechne family forgave him at some point. After all no one forced Mary Joe to spend the weekend with a bunch of married hooligans. My point is that just recently I learned the Ted Kennedy called each of the spouses and or family members of all the 178 Massachusetts residents killed in the 911 travesty. The calls weren't scripted nor did the end after certain platitudes were made and condolences extended. They went on for minutes or in some cases a very long time. Kennedy instructed his entire staff to gather every agency possible in one place, so that all of these survivors didn't have to go to anyplace else other than the ballroom he rented to get whatever assitance anyone of them needed. Social Security people were there as well as medical professionals, and everyone in between. After reading this entire article about his efforts on the survivors behalf I finally let go of the Kopechne thing.

After all no one forced Mary Joe to spend the weekend with a bunch of married hooligans.

I hope you aren't saying what I think your saying.

There are alot of people in prison for killing someone, that later found God, and are still in jail. Where they belong!

I hope you aren't saying what I think your saying.

There are alot of people in prison for killing someone, that later found God, and are still in jail. Where they belong!

In Massachusetts it is rare when anyone serves time for a death that occured during a car crash. If they do it is minimal. My huge exception is that he didn't go in after her. And neither did his buddies when he went back to the house.

Good lord Swimmer, I haven't seen such reason from you in a lo...um...ever!

I've said it before, but even though I don't like Kennedy's politics all of the time the man has my respect for being a servant of the people, and a lot of Republican Senators would agree.

Pretty lame when a man has brain cancer and all you can do is joke about something that happened 40+ years ago. Sounds like Beavis and Butthead.

-spence

Time has a way of dulling our memories and lends itself towards one person forgiving another for something one person did. Whether it was to you or against another person, such as Ted against Mary Joe Kopechne, thier does come a time when your anger towards him should reach a balance for and against him, where you don't like or dislike Ted Kennedy. I think this should occur in everything even when a death is involved at some point. I believe even the Kopechne family forgave him at some point. After all no one forced Mary Joe to spend the weekend with a bunch of married hooligans. My point is that just recently I learned the Ted Kennedy called each of the spouses and or family members of all the 178 Massachusetts residents killed in the 911 travesty. The calls weren't scripted nor did the end after certain platitudes were made and condolences extended. They went on for minutes or in some cases a very long time. Kennedy instructed his entire staff to gather every agency possible in one place, so that all of these survivors didn't have to go to anyplace else other than the ballroom he rented to get whatever assitance anyone of them needed. Social Security people were there as well as medical professionals, and everyone in between. After reading this entire article about his efforts on the survivors behalf I finally let go of the Kopechne thing.


There are literally thousands of people across the Commonwealth who've been helped like that by him--with little to no fanfare. He's also quietly attended hundreds of military burials at Arlington in the last 6 years--again, with no fanfare or press notifications.

All of us will have to account to our Maker at some point for what we've done in our lives on this earth. I don't presume to judge him or speculate about whether he's made his atonement for the worst night of his life. What happened back in July of 1969, at this point, is between him and his God.

Thanks Swimmer. I believe that you're right.
Most folks don't realize the good that the Senator has done and continues to do for the working stiff. I didn't know what he had done for the 911 families of this Commonwealth, must not have been used for publicity as some would have done.
I believe he's a good man who may or may not have screwed up that night. Don't know, wasn't there....

He is going to kick the bucket any day now...they are trying to wrap up all the nice things they can before he goes. The Globe did a several day history of the man a couple weeks or a go.

I was never a big fan of the guy. That said he has done many very nice things for individuals and groups under the radar which I commend him for. Also he has made an attempt at times to comprise with the other side but he is usually very stubborn.
My main reason for my dislike is two fold, 1) I disagree with his policy's and 2) I feel he is always trying to buy votes via give backs. "I will give/get you ________ (fill in the blank) for your vote." This became blatantly obvious when the courted all the illegals to and was pushing for their the right to vote and have drivers lic's and be able to get mortgages/jobs/health-care/education loans /etc without citizenship. In fact it was HE who REFUSDED to use the term illegal alian but instead created the term "undocumented alian" as a PC term...made me :lossinit:. I recall one time he knew exactly how many "undocumented" aliens there were (and where they were)...I ask you if they are "undocumented" how do you know how many (and where) the are?:rtfm: And shouldn't HE uphold the LAW which he took an oath to do? (which is to fine the employers and deport them) For this...I despise the man and quite frankly see him as a traitor trying to undermine the USA. I was PO'ed at BUSH for the same reason. He should have upheld the law. IMO it is part of the reason we are where we are today.

I respect the man for his years of public service. Really I do. He gave up his entire life for public service...a hell of alot more than me or most others .However his behavior has been appalling at times and not suitable to his office. I am upset that he continually got re-elected, clearly there are better people for the job. (Same goes for RI's "Patches" Kennedy...I've met this guy, he is an idiot.)

What's it all for & who really cares,is all of this because he's going to die sooner than later?
I don't think any of it matters,he's not going to bring this
'Honorary"achievement award with him when he leaves.

It's not about the social notoriety,I strongly feel it's about positive personal self belief & complete trust in God (or the God you believe in).that he will help us achieve what's really a priority in our lives.

These very positive achievements that we acquire through our life time is what truly defines us & shapes us into who we are.


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