Going live sometime around 6:30pm. Probably a little later the way things are going. Steve will be doing a presentation on how and when to fish various South County RI spots.

Tune in here: http://www.mogulus.com/saltwateredge

This is awesome.

Wish I'd known earlier. Missed the first hour.

This is awesome.

Wish I'd known earlier. Missed the first hour.

Sorry Johnny, it was REAL short notice. Glad you're enjoying it.

Very cool !! Thanks!

Thanks, that was way better than OTW TV

SWE is the best!i can sit in my house and watch steve put on a great seminar. the best!!

Glad I remembered it - excellent presentation by Steve McKenna -

Thanks Steve - and thanks to SWE-TV - wanted to make it in person but I'm still sick :wall: - but almost over it...I hope...:hs:

It was great - I even called Uncle Joe Pt Jude while he was on the TV at the end, I wanted to see if I could make him answer the phone on television...:laughs:

Good job, men - :kewl:

Just wanted to let ya know it was appreciated by an elderly shut-in...:rotflmao:....

Ahhhhhh!

Just opened my Email at 6:30 by luck so I got to see the whole thing. Thanks for making this available to people who live to far to get down.

Great job but seems a little hypocritical that the internet and these forums seem to frown on spot talk but here we have a live broadcast going into great detail on every spot in RI..WTF......Wasn't Steve crucified for this same thing a few years back by you same people??? I don't really care about surf fishing anymore but I do have respect for the guys that do......:agree:

this was awesome to watch, live streaming is great.

damm missed it. is there anywhere were going to be able to view it agiain?

I also missed it. I hope to catch Steve at Quaker Lane.

I thought it was great

What's Up Bud!!!

The one of the SWE guys should send me a pm so we can talk about options to get them away from that 35mm slide projector. Their website is incredibly above the rest of the pack in terms of order taking and in-stock monitoring. I am in awe whenever I go to their site with the ways they have integrated their online catalog, in store stock and forums and created a seamless experience for the customer from top to bottom. Time to get their presentations into the 21st century too. :hihi::hihi:

Thanks SWE .. that was the best .
Thanks Steve . :claps:

I caught the first hour of the SWE show and Steve's presentation before I had to tend to other things. It was very good. But agree with JohnnyD that the old Kodak slide presentation could stand to be updated, especially for a live stream (and JohnnyD would be just the guy to do set them up right).

There was some commentary among the "remote" people about spot burning (which maybe got the SWE folks a little perturbed), but the comments were really applicable to a lot of waters and I don't think his presentation means everyone is going to flock to those specific spots (but I don't fish RI waters often so maybe it's not my ax to grind). Anyway, great job and thanks to SWE for putting it on.

There was some commentary among the "remote" people about spot burning (which maybe got the SWE folks a little perturbed), but the comments were really applicable to a lot of waters and I don't think his presentation means everyone is going to flock to those specific spots (but I don't fish RI waters often so maybe it's not my ax to grind). Anyway, great job and thanks to SWE for putting it on.

Are you kidding??? It was in complete detail...from driving directions to which rock to cast to... I feel real bad for the guys that fish those spots...It'll be a zooooooo.........for sure... I've seen it many times...:walk:

My personal opinion and the official policy of the site is to not discuss spots in great detail as this is not the forum for it, recorded for all history, and certainly when in a combination spot/report. However having this kind of talk at a fishing show or event or among a small group of people is different not unusual. Information should be shared, I just think a public forum, forever googlable, is not the besxt location for spot stuff. A bit different (I think & hope) in what SWE is doing with their broadcasts... Though with the SWE folk do it from their rocks at say blanks neck or certain spots along the walk. Most Aquidneck fisher folk I've talked to over the years would do things that make urban Detroit after a Championship win look like Pleasantville USA

My personal opinion and the official policy of the site is to not discuss spots in great detail as this is not the forum for it, recorded for all history, and certainly when in a combination spot/report. However having this kind of talk at a fishing show or event or among a small group of people is different not unusual. Information should be shared, I just think a public forum, forever googlable, is not the besxt location for spot stuff. A bit different (I think & hope) in what SWE is doing with their broadcasts...

JR...I watched it...beginning to end....if you saw it...believe me..you wouldn't be happy.....it was live broadcast...100+ were watching on the net.....

JR...I watched it...beginning to end....if you saw it...believe me..you wouldn't be happy.....it was live broadcast...100+ were watching on the net.....

I didn't watch it but heard about it. I'm just glad it didn't cover Newport areas. The video might be a good idea on how to stuff though.

DZ

I didn't watch it but heard about it. I'm just glad it didn't cover Newport areas. The video might be a good idea on how to stuff though.

DZMay be next...:tooth:

I'm in :happy::hf1::spin:

You guys are to much!!!! Atleast pete and the guys gave you something to b@#ch and moan about for the next week or so!!!:crying:
I was there and steve gave a very informative presentation...as usual!!!
Steve was asked specific questions about fishing the spots and said
" I'm not going to give you all the info, put in your time and figure it yourself" Piont blank and straight forward. The info he gave WAS a LITTLE more than you would get from a surfcasters guide. I have an idea...lets all burn those books...i know i've learned of more than afew spots that were hot in the 1800's talk about spot burning! If you ever fished any of these spots you would know most of them are a zoo anyway!!! Any one of those spots can be found in books!
If it wasn't for spot burning then how did you guys get some of your spots...oh here we go tell me you all "put your time in"! ask your self if you've ever heard someone elses conversation and went down and tried that spot! Or have you ever told someone else how to fish a spot? If you haven't shared some knowdledge then shame on you, YOU are killing our sport!!! Now I'm not saying you need to tell everything...although some of you will read it that way!!! I am saying help some one out, just as someone probably helped you out at one time!!!
ANd if those are YOUR secret spots then you need to more research and learn some new areas!!!

Are you kidding??? It was in complete detail...from driving directions to which rock to cast to... I feel real bad for the guys that fish those spots...It'll be a zooooooo.........for sure... I've seen it many times...:walk:

He was very specific, but Steve's been giving these presentations for years as well as being published in various magazine. He said that he fishes the same spots himself and there's no one around. I get the concern though.

I knew it has been too f $%^&*()_ quiet around here >..I thought it was the economy >><<><><,:ss:

Well Done by Steve and The Edge!!!

i thouroughly enjoyed the presentation from
the comfort of my pc monitor, further cementing
the Edge's "state of the art" position of this internet
explosion that has impacted the surfcasting community for BETTER and for sum worse!

which brings us to the alleged spot issues!!!

if anyone has earned the right to espouse about ANY of the waters
that he mentioned it IS Mr McKenna and others,,,,,,,,they know who they are.

in my view the places that he mentioned ARE very generic, they ARE written about and have been mentioned by other seminarians~~ quite extensively. i mean, if a kid from Tulsa(me) can "find out" about the very same spots he mentioned within my first 40 trips to the shore, then the grapevine isn't as secure as most might think!

granted his legacy notwithstanding, Steve is just sharing with others as he was also shared with,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and why not learn the generalities of certain selective areas from one our sport's masters? more improtantly i believe that Steve was using each particular location as a demonstration of technique which IS germaine to his presentation. that was the first time i "got it" about how to jig with current, and for that i am most grateful.

ROCKfish AWN, gents, and Thanks for the great show last night!!
also, what they did is very different from posting here or <ova there for ALL lurkers to see and get dialed into, permanently as opposed to a mere extension of a live presentation~~just some thoughts!

I've fished those spots and in the middle of the night, even on the right tide there is hardly anyone there. Well except for one of them and he needs to use bigger plugs there. In fact of the spots I've fished that Steve "burnt" in the past I have never seen nighttime crowds. Of course I don't fish in RI from mid june till after Labor Day. Of course I only fish in RI because I don't have to worry about a fish interrupting my casting practice.

Just as an FYI, the broadcast was just that, a broadcast, and in reality it has ZERO difference from a presentation at a fishing show.

It was not recorded so it can not be re-broadcast or uploaded to YouTube, and end users/watchers were unable to record it.

As John mentioned above, forum posts that last forever and are easily Googled (or articles published in a magazine for that matter) are very different from a one time broadcast to a crowd no bigger then that at a fishing show.

One thing that has become clear a few years later after the infamous OTW article (for me anyways) was that a lot of us were too hard on Steve about it (myself included). I mostly fish Newport as it's where I live but I do cross the bridges and head East and when I do I rarely find any of the spots mentioned in the original article occupied after dark.

Apologies to those who took issue with the broadcast. We do understand your concern. While we had reservations knowing the history of the "spot" issue our feeling was that the one-time nature of it (and that the presentation in many ways was not new) it would not be an issue.

:kewl:Since I don't surf fish anymore...I guess it would be ok to give up all my spots.......maybe I'll do a seminar;)...I wouldn't do that to my fellow comrades...not my style...I have to much respect for the hard work we put in to find the holy grail that we all seek.....Been there done that... I guess some guys just won't get it.....until it hits them at home..:hs:

Well Done by Steve and The Edge!!!

i thouroughly enjoyed the presentation from
the comfort of my pc monitor, further cementing
the Edge's "state of the art" position of this internet
explosion that has impacted the surfcasting community for BETTER and for sum worse!

which brings us to the alleged spot issues!!!

if anyone has earned the right to espouse about ANY of the waters
that he mentioned it IS Mr McKenna and others,,,,,,,,they know who they are.
I disagree...Who gave anyone more rights than the other guy...Publicity????

in my view the places that he mentioned ARE very generic, they ARE written about and have been mentioned by other seminarians~~ quite extensively. i mean, if a kid from Tulsa(me) can "find out" about the very same spots he mentioned within my first 40 trips to the shore, then the grapevine isn't as secure as most might think!
The locations may be "generic"..but the time, technique..etc..are not..Too much info..

granted his legacy notwithstanding, Steve is just sharing with others as he was also shared with,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and why not learn the generalities of certain selective areas from one our sport's masters? more improtantly i believe that Steve was using each particular location as a demonstration of technique which IS germaine to his presentation. that was the first time i "got it" about how to jig with current, and for that i am most grateful.
Master???? Are u kidding me???How are you designated Master?? Jigging current..or an other technique is common sense and trial and error..don't ya think?

ROCKfish AWN, gents, and Thanks for the great show last night!!
also, what they did is very different from posting here or <ova there for ALL lurkers to see and get dialed into, permanently as opposed to a mere extension of a live presentation~~just some thoughts!
Not picking on Steve..He seems like a good guy...Just the whole thing in general;)

Pete-

Your patience is astounding.

Pete-

Your patience is astounding.
Believe me.....he won't be so kind when it hits his home...:btu:

:kewl:Since I don't surf fish anymore...I guess it would be ok to give up all my spots.......maybe I'll do a seminar;)...I wouldn't do that to my fellow comrades...not my style...I have to much respect for the hard work we put in to find the holy grail that we all seek.....Been there done that... I guess some guys just won't get it.....until it hits them at home..:hs:

So i guess you've never heard of any good places to fish in newport!!! I think steve gets it...he fishes all over soco, I know he's not giving up his "secret" spots or the holy grail as you put it!
keep all the spots you've worked out to yourself, doesn't really matter to me! But for you to be riding high on your horse and to imply that you've never worked off information you gathered from other people in just....oh how to put it so you read it right.....BULL pucky!!!! Have you ever read anything about any of the spots you fish? Ever talk to a friend about a spot? I wish i was born with the knowledge to beable read a flow or to understand the effects of the tide in a rip, but i was not and had to learn for myself and with the help of others....INCLUDING Steve m. and the great guys at the edge.
Passing along the knowledge we aquire is crucial to our sport and we need to Help each other out! Jumping on a guy that has given his knowledge freely to new and seasoned anglers alike is just plain IGNORANT! As you stated you fish from a boat, so go and enjoy it and keep all your secret, holy grail spots to yourself and pray that no one ever finds them! Good luck! Just Be glad that no one has ever published secret places like the mudhole or cuttyhunk or sow and pigs! Maybe thats why I've never seen anyone out there...Cause there secret..Right! You know what..Its not worth it i have tail hooks to tie.....Good luck fish18
Ps.... Hi jay didn't see your giantness there lastnight!

Believe me.....he won't be so kind when it hits his home...:btu:

I think this is why Aquidneck Island Fishermen are actually the ones lobbying to raise the toll on the Claiborne Pell to $15 each way, and shut down the Sakonnet River Bridge Altogether.

So i guess you've never heard of any good places to fish in newport!!! I think steve gets it...he fishes all over soco, I know he's not giving up his "secret" spots or the holy grail as you put it!
keep all the spots you've worked out to yourself, doesn't really matter to me! But for you to be riding high on your horse and to imply that you've never worked off information you gathered from other people in just....oh how to put it so you read it right.....BULL pucky!!!! Have you ever read anything about any of the spots you fish? Ever talk to a friend about a spot? I wish i was born with the knowledge to beable read a flow or to understand the effects of the tide in a rip, but i was not and had to learn for myself and with the help of others....INCLUDING Steve m. and the great guys at the edge.
Passing along the knowledge we aquire is crucial to our sport and we need to Help each other out! Jumping on a guy that has given his knowledge freely to new and seasoned anglers alike is just plain IGNORANT! As you stated you fish from a boat, so go and enjoy it and keep all your secret, holy grail spots to yourself and pray that no one ever finds them! Good luck! Just Be glad that no one has ever published secret places like the mudhole or cuttyhunk or sow and pigs or Frenchmans or the Bowling Alley or Anawan or Block Island, Snake hole, Black rock,Graicies cove, SE light, Catrock Cove, Capt. Freebody Dr. or Doris Duke or Naps or the Fenway or the Iron Gates or Fogland The Swimmin' Hole or the Garden,,,etc..etc..I could on all night! Maybe thats why I've never seen anyone out there...Cause there secret..Right! You know what..Its not worth it i have tail hooks to tie.....Good luck fish18 Thanx for that Bud
Ps.... Hi jay didn't see your giantness there lastnight!

:yawn::yawn::yawn:

okay f-18, i'll try to break this down for you, gently!

I disagree...Who gave anyone more rights than the other guy...Publicity????
it has nothing to do with Publicity,,,,,,,,,,,,it has more to do with the
fact that those are his home waters and where he fishes and the spots that he has fished for more than 30 years. if he wants to use them to further his demonstration it is his choice and i feel that he's earned the right to talk about these places that have been known about for 100's of years, not just within your time frame of experience, guy.

The locations may be "generic"..but the time, technique..etc..are not..Too much info..
very simply,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and we go to seminars for What reasons?

Master???? Are u kidding me???How are you designated Master?? Jigging current..or an other technique is common sense and trial and error..don't ya think?
uh nope, and just how many articles, seminars, lure creations can we credit to you, f-18? while jigging w/current is not rocket science, it is the way in which Steve speaks with certainty and his "been there, done that" style of presenting the basics that makes it more easily assimilated. couple that with his 3 decades of surfcasting and the ease with which he presents MOST anything he is willing to share with those of us who are still learing this sport and you have a surfcaster that speaks authoritatively and the knowledge that comes from someone who's landed several trophies and, imho and the humble opinon of others, would be considered a master when it comes to this surfcraziness that beckons us all.

i mean to you he may just be another guy, and he is very accessible; yet, to me i am pleased and very fortunate to learn from him at every available opportunity,,,,,,,,,,,,,thanks again Steve and Pete and Chris for ALL that youse guys do to promote our sport!!
:kewl: :kewl: :kewl: :kewl:

OHHH I"M TELLIN' your spot burning!!! Be careful some on here will be very cranky that you even mentioned anything that has the atlantic ocean touching it!!!:wall:

guy.

:

Names Dave...END IT Chief.......

Hey Ray - I was up in Gloucster trying to help convince the wonderful people at NMFS not to give away our tuna fishery.

As for being kind to the home turf -- you could probably hand out charts and give directions online, nevermind a one-time webcast, and the average randy would get his arse killed trying to navigate Newport.
Heck, I get a weekly invite for a guided tour from Ironman, and I'm not crazy enough to follow him out there.

Seriously, this spot burning talk is lame.

OHHH I"M TELLIN' your spot burning!!! Be careful some on here will be very cranky that you even mentioned anything that has the atlantic ocean touching it!!!:wall:

Since I don't care to surf fish anymore...Shall I continue...

D#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g back down under the radar -- this was fun.

very simply,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and we go to seminars for What reasons?


To learn how to fish...not what rock to cast to....Part of the journey is the discovery on your own......

uh nope, and just how many articles, seminars, lure creations can we credit to you, f-18?
Try Surf Asylum Lures yet????The Hammerhead in particular??? Few articles in the Fisherman,, may be more coming,,,,Seminars??? Won't go that low..They are done for $$ and or Glory...You are a fool if you hang on every word.......sell your soul for $50

Try Surf Asylum Lures yet????The Hammerhead in particular??? Few articles in the Fisherman,, may be more coming,,,,Seminars??? Won't go that low..They are done for $$ and or Glory...You are a fool if you hang on every word.......sell your soul for $50

weeeh whelllll all righty THEN!

from yer recent posts regarding this particular topic,

do you really want to be using the word FOOL?
:huh: :bl: :bl: :huh:

lighten UP there Francis, it's just fishing/catching,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
and believe me when i tell you i relish the hunt way more than
the play. however, it is still ALL of it the sets me into motion.

you are starting to sound like the skinny kid on the beach who
gets sand kicked into his face their tough guy, with statements like~~~
"since i don't care to fish the surf anymore,,,,,,shall i go on?" what a bunch of whiney-arsed drivel!

you poor thing,,,,,,,,,,,,you chose to go over to the dark side,
so now you are going to belittle anyone of us who share our spots?
and i suppose that you never got any numbers from anyone, ever read any Capt White,
or ever spoke with Bill Nolan about live lining or eeling from the glass, huh?

what a freakin' phony,,,,,,,,,,,,,,does Dave know yer taking credit for his designs and creations? while you may have consulted with him, and you may be one of his fishing buddies,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is something entirely different to have invented and perfected a successful lure/style of rigging that has revolutionized our sport and been so damned successful. no offense their biggun, but do you honestly question Steve McKenna's abilities and legendary status along the Striper Coast? how BIG didjya say yer mirror is?
:1poke: :scream: :scream: :1poke:

I think enough has been said here...
Im going to close it.... JR can open if he wants

I think enough has been said here...
Im going to close it.... JR can open if he wants

We're good - circular argument - thread is closed....