Im a little upset to see a certain fishing magazine burned another fishing spot . I think if thats the only way they can sell mags. they better give it up . My buddy stopped subscribing a few years ago becouse of this and I think Im going to join him . its bad enough they give them the town they draw a frig. map . places are crowded enough with out this bulls###. watch out they may drawing a map to youre favorite spot next!!!!!!!

Yeah, like there isn't another spot between Nobska Light and Stage Harbor where you can catch a bluefish in May and June.

I don't know how old you are--but you should realize that magazines have been doing this since Frank Woolner was the editor of Salt Water Sportsman.

Red Top gives away free maps to my fishing spots every spring, by the way. Along with a free tide chart.

Im just blowin off steam , what do you have stock , somebody ask were to go on this site and people have a fit .. the problem is I cant find I frigin parkin spot with all the out of state car . but I guess Im not as old as you so I dont understand...

those magazines have burned lots of spots i fish, so what i go there in the middle of the night and no one is around. the only thing they really do is draw people to those spots during the day and most don't know what they are doing. when there are people there at night however, i know they have done their homework and they know what there doing, and did not just go there because they read some article. what do you have to say when they give away other spots that aren't yours, o sweet now i have this new place in RI to fish. the magazines are there to help and guide you to becoming a better fisherman, i am sure it is not their intention to piss people off, but then again what do i know.

what do you have to say when they give away other spots that aren't yours, o sweet now i have this new place in RI to fish. the magazines are there to help and guide you to becoming a better fisherman, i am sure it is not their intention to piss people off, but then again what do i know.

ya thats a good point of course. just another example of "not in my backyard" .... but like you said too, most of these people u will never see at 11pm or 3-5am when the fishing is probably at its best. i would not be too worried ;)

Right here on this very site it happened last week regarding a spot on the BB side of the Cape. But the person asking the question was a regular here, obviously worthy of asking the question, not some unwashed stupid "googan" so it's OK. :jump:

If the spots (one inparticular) can fit 3-4 cars and it's not that straighforward to find, the majority of people will move on to somethng easier to access. The ones that make it past getting to the locations will bail if they don't catch immediately is my guess. The ones that fish when its convenient for them as opposed to the best time to fish, will call it quits too after a trip or two.

Early season feeding frenzy on shore that will subside when some have to walk >0.5m to a spot, it's cold out, it's drizzly, and they can't cast a chunk of bait within range of breaking fish. The article did not show any location that was not publicly known. If you have your Barnstable resident parking sticker, your way ahead of the game for the remainder of the season.

Hmmm.... then maybe you should also not subscribe to any newspapers with outdoor columms, give up frequenting local tackle shops and TV as well.

In the early 90's it would be nothing to see over a 100 guys casting ( mostly poorly at that) at SCB for blues in May. Talk about a spot that everyone knows about.

Lastly, there are no secret personal spots anymore and to get your panties in a bunch because of an article on of all things South Cape beach and bluefish is just a real waste of time.

This spot burning thing is such bull$hit, there are no secret spots.

Usually people don't have a problem burnig OK spots, rarely will you see people burning their own favorite spots.

Spots is a no-win situation, but it is sexy to talk spots and make coin.

Fact is, 99% of us have gotten tipped off to try a spot from a mag, or book, or a site.

Every year, as the first of the migrants hit the shores, the "spot burning" discussions begin,just because "X" amount of people fish the "spot" doesnt mean they will catch well there, it's not just the spot, it's knowing how to fish it, and very,very few articles I have seen about "spots" REALY explain how to fish them correctly, do I like company when I fish... hell no, and most nights, I'll go somewhere else, it's a big coast line, and somewhere, I will find fish and be alone, once I find "my" fish , mum is the word... when two people know a secret, it's no longer a secret any longer....

and as far as posted reports go...most times they are not worth the paper they are printed on, they are a day late and a dollar short.. the ones REALLY in the know... arn't talking...

on that note, it's almost time for me to dissapear for the summer..hope everyone has a good season.

If you don't like hearing about spots or reports...just don't read the mags....that is what I did...I used to get pissed and stopped all my subscriptions..
Then I realized it's a loosing battle and I missed reading the mags....:tooth:

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Then I realized it's a loosing battle......

:uhuh: It's definitely a losing battle. However, don't let anyone passify you that it's OK...it's NOT OK. It will continue to happen... True, there are no secret spots...but it doesn't make it right to post or print about not-so-common spots so that Tom, #^&#^&#^&#^& and Harry who don't really fish but want to go stick a rod somewhere with a campfire, loud radio and a keg to ruin it for the guys who quietly get in and out without a trace.

.....the only thing they really do is draw people to those spots during the day and most don't know what they are doing.....

That's more of a mouthful than you know. Yes, they draw people to these spots during the day...so yes, they're in plain view of the local residents..."most don't know what they are doing"....which to me equates to less educated in the etiquette of fishing, trash, improper parking, loud and obnoxious,etc?etc/....all things that will piss off residents who are the main reason why we lose access to our shorelines. A LOT of these magazines AND websites that give out spot information are looking for 2 things .... $$$$ AND RECOGNITION...which normally leads to $$$$....a LOT of these z-heroes who post about spots, or write articles about spots fall into the same category. I believe this to be true...as well as BS. It sux...we have to learn to live with it. EVERYONE has read about a spot that someone wrote about and tried it. We ARE ALL GUILTY. If you don't think you are.....you're lie-ing to yourself.

O=K....I'm done for now. ...time to regroup :gh:

If you don't like hearing about spots or reports...just don't read the mags....that is what I did...I used to get pissed and stopped all my subscriptions..

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NO one needs EXTRA stress these days....

it is the NUMBER one KILLER of all people

like when i realized listening to heavy metal or
hard rock and roll while driving would make me more
susceptible to road rage which now carries EXTREME
fines,penalties and even JAIL ...

I used to get so damn mad :fury:
i'd chase you down... not any more....

i just change over to MUSIC that makes me not care.

end of problem :wave:

G-Spot..:nopics:

Just think of it this way, all day long there will be all these people not catching and chumming the spot for your stealthy after dark arrival.
:humpty:

G-Spot..

can ya chum for those?

can ya chum for those?

I dunno, the wife says I've never found one.....:jester:

A few comments:

1 - It's not your spot. No offense, but it's not.
2 - In this political climate, the more responsible outdoorsmen participating, the better. If some dingbat catches his first 10 lb fish and becomes and avid, outspoken defender of all things fishermen, all the better. We need more fishermen, hunters, shooters, etc., not less.
3 - People have short memories, so fish somewhere else for a few weeks, and all will be well again. Plus it's April.
4 - Your point is not lost on me. There are places where you have to trespass to fish and guys talk about going there, during the season, like it's Disneyland. Talk about a sensitive spot, but since it's "cool" to fish there and you can't get there by car, it's fair game? There have been articles written about it on this site. I have a picture from last year where one spot at that place was legitimately crowded. Sometimes a little discression is warranted.

one of my biggest pet peeves. i was lucky that a few of the old timers took a liking to me and showed me around. then i was taught the correct way to fish that spot.
now in the instant information age, i cannot think of a spot that i haven't seen in print. the only thing missing in most of the srticles was the way to fish that spot. when that happens, i'll take up golf.

I dunno, the wife says I've never found one.....:jester:

LOL..Low blow....:fishin:Ya need to use bigger gear...

There are books in print that offer the top however many striper fishing locations from NJ to ME. These books have been around for years and they provide the reader with directions, when to go, how to fish the spots and what to use for bait/lures. The only thing they don't do is cast for you.

I've seen spots that I fish in books and when I go, there are never crowds and there are usually plenty of fish. Don't get too worked up if you see some guy in bermuda shorts with a meatstick and a 5 gallon bucket in one of "your" spots. Those guys usually go once, realize the popular spot stinks and put their gear away for the season. It's not worth getting worked up over.

As for the spot "burned" in the mag, there's plenty of miles of productive shoreline to fish there. I've never had a problem finding a place away from everyone else when I've gone. And that place has been burned more often and in more places than you can count.

Find a new spot. period

Could it be reasonably stated that On The Water caters to serious outdoorsmen? Saying that, do you think they have a large number of suedo fishermen pick up the mag?

I believe On The Water is basicly preaching to the choir and the impact that they have with articles like this is minimal.
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Im a little upset to see a certain fishing magazine burned another fishing spot . I think if thats the only way they can sell mags. they better give it up . My buddy stopped subscribing a few years ago becouse of this and I think Im going to join him . its bad enough they give them the town they draw a frig. map . places are crowded enough with out this bulls###. watch out they may drawing a map to youre favorite spot next!!!!!!!


You know what you need to do, walk a little bit more. Most googans won't walk any further from the car to the waters edge. Go down the beach a little further, That brings great joy.

I think the bottom line is that most spots are not that secret and even if a spot is "shut down" during the day, 90% of the time you can go back in the deep night without any problems (most of my favorite spots are like this actually). For example, at a UDL, a grumpy homeowner likes to yell at you, but when you go back when he's a asleep, no problem!

Like Mike said, magazines have been doing this as long as poeple have been fishing. If you are that concerned, you are better off going to a boat or kayak. In fact, the pioneers of kayak fishing up around my parts are almost all surfcasters that got fed up with the trash and the craziness that ensues at a lot of spots. You can buy a nice kayak for the price of a van stall, so its not like its that out of reach.

When someone says "spot burning".....

I say "curiosity slowdown"...

Its that simple. If you read about a spot either in print or on line, you can safely assume a 3-5 day waiting period, then things will simmer down and get back to normal. People need to be re-educated as to what spot burning is....the end of the world it ain't.

I don't know what spot Mr. Moosh was referring to, I have received my latest copies but haven't thumbed through them yet...

In my opinion,,,and for obvious reasons, any public beach/state park or any general public access area...is wide open to discussion, print, post, seminar //etc//etc
I'm referring to a spot for example...that's on a Dead End street....a spot that may or may not require a parking permit, a spot that has very minimal parking. Even if you can park legally, residents can still find ways to take your access away. When the wrong people hear about spots like this, it's the beginning of the end. Sooner or later there's a keg party or a campfire...without trash barrels, where does the trash go?? What about the remains from the campfire?? ...1 out of every 5 take their trash with them?? Do they really? It's easy to proclaim that on here...but at 3am, when it's dark and there's nobody around,,, do you really chase down that Power Bar wrapper that the wind just blew away in the dead of the night??..I've seen SO MANY spots taken away....it is VERY very depressing. That's why these discussions sometimes set me off....I still consider myself a youngen, but I've been fishing for a LONG time...and when I think back to places I used to be able to fish with my dad but can no longer access, again it's very depressing.

...and for you guys who primarily BOAT fish, your words mean nothing to me as you have gained 95% of those spots back,,,..so quit telling us landlubbers to go find another spot, OK? :chatter

I don't know what spot Mr. Moosh was referring to, I have received my latest copies but haven't thumbed through them yet...

I'm pretty sure they're talking about the article on spring schoolie and bluefish.

there was also a huge article on Plum Island with spots all listed, but that is the biggest burned spot anyway, so it doesn't matter!

Yeah, like there isn't another spot between Nobska Light and Stage Harbor where you can catch a bluefish in May and June.

I don't know how old you are--but you should realize that magazines have been doing this since Frank Woolner was the editor of Salt Water Sportsman.

Red Top gives away free maps to my fishing spots every spring, by the way. Along with a free tide chart.

Exactly!! People getting upset about fishing spots is ridiculous!! There is no such thing as a secret spot. Any local tackle store would give up that spot to a paying customer. Give me a break!!

:sleeps::sleeps::sleeps::sleeps::sleeps::sleeps::s leeps::sleeps:

Go down the beach a little further, That brings great joy.


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I think its wrong to give up spots for a profit . why shouldnt we all do that .becouse we charish these places , we wouldnt give them up for anything , You dont feel betrayed when someone you tell about a spot who tells someone who will not appreciate it and tells everyone . maybe I havnt been burnt enough to be callus about it , If someone is generous enough to trust me with a good spot ,I would not give it up so easy . the mag is not like telling one or two people ,they probably have circulation of (Im guessing a million))A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN TELLING A BUDDY..

Look at the bright side with spot burning. At least you know where everybody is and it makes it very easy to go to a place they are not.

I remember a few fluke spot burns last year. As the armada was tripping over itself trying to catch the last remaining fluke in the area I was a few miles away in a very productive spot that I had all to myself.

I had gotten one of those "fishing wisdom" type calendars a year or two back, and one of its "pearls of wosdom" was that if your favorite fishing spot is close to home, and easy to get to, than it probably has less than ideal fishing. In other words, to fully understand the art of fishing, you HAVE to get out of your "comfort zone".
I will, on occaision, pick a pond, or stream on a map and try to fish it. I have had some interesting results. For instance I found Trout Brook in Dover, Stony Brook in Weston and a remote stretch of the Shawsheen River in Burlington. These WERE all nice brook trout streams at one time.
(Don't worry, these spots have already been burned by Trouts Unlimited as well as New England Game and Fish magazine.)

As it has been mentioned earlier, most of the "crowd" will be inexperienced day-trippers that would NEVER think of fishing at night.

Spot gets burnt.Googy's (I am one) show up with snoopy rods(don't have one),bait boxes and bags,beer(need one) and a few dozen friends.They throw all the bait out on hooks.Throw the bags and boxes on the ground.They drink the beer then throw beer cans on the ground.If they do get a bluefish they beach it and leave it there.So they put fences up and no trespassing signs at that spot.So what if we lose more access to careless fisherman and people writing articles for business and fame.Nothing wrong with spot burning.Real time blitz reports and email and cell phone lists are better.You tell one buddy he tells his buddy he tells his buddy who tells his buddy who tells his other buddy's buddy who tells his buddy that runs the tackle shop who tells all his customers.See what I'm saying same as telling your buddy.Sucks your local spot got burnt.See ya there real soon.

I think its wrong to give up spots for a profit . why shouldnt we all do that .becouse we charish these places , we wouldnt give them up for anything , ..

So when you spend a couple of thousand bucks to take a fishing vacation to some place like Costa Rica, don't hire a guide. What does a guide do, besides give up spots for a profit?

And I'll tell you something else--if some guy offers me 5 Franklins to take him fishing, I'll give up every spot I know :D

And I bet you would too :humpty:

I dont know if I would , I guess it takes all kinds , I got to go fishing ,this cabin fever is killing me , everyone good luck fishing this season ...

The funny thing is that these spots, actually belong to everyone, those who fish and maybe even those who don't. I used to fish Jamaica pond religiously when I was a kid. I fished about 6 spots most of the time. If i got there and someone was in the one I wanted to fish I moved to another one.

So when you spend a couple of thousand bucks to take a fishing vacation to some place like Costa Rica, don't hire a guide. What does a guide do, besides give up spots for a profit?

And I'll tell you something else--if some guy offers me 5 Franklins to take him fishing, I'll give up every spot I know :D

And I bet you would too :humpty:

Did you say every spot with a :humpty: ? I'm sure there's a few guys that may take you up on that offer in P-town :hihi:

you all suck

Interestingly, the article on smallmouth fishing did'nt burn any spots. I have caught a lot of fish standing in the spot the author is standing in the pic. I suppose it's my spot.
Maybe some of it is up to the author?

you all suck

holy SH&^ how you been?

depending on who's writing the article ALL SPOTS ARE FORE SALE !! these spots have been around for a long time and they will be there after we are all long gone
the more important thing here is our right of ways to the shore line they in fact if nothing is done now they will be gone. And that is something we should be angry about..


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I'm sorry John I have to give up your secret spot.

http://www.mathewyoung.com/secretspot.jpg

Two solutions to this spot burning problem in magazines. Either move further down the beach. You know more than one person can fish there? Or go and fish at night. Of course if you go at 12 in the afternoon the beach will be mobbed.

was at that very same secret spot this morning, nothing much going on, had a swirl behind the plug but not much else.

dear Mike P , Are those 5 Franklin half dollars ? i am in. will also
trade a vintage Harnell with no reel seat. LOL

A) there are no SPOTS, it's ALL one SPOT~~~~
aka The Striper Coast

B) it never has been or will it ever BE about~~~~
the where; it IS about the WHEN and HOW

C) and just how did YOU find this UDL~~~~
that you claim to be YOURS???

it's only May, gents! Moosh, go bend some glass/graphite
or sumthin,,,,,,,,zzzzeeeeeeeee sum drag action,,,,,,,,,lighten up!!!
or better yet, out fish 'em~~~~works every time :btu: :btu: :btu:

dear Mike P , Are those 5 Franklin half dollars ? i am in. will also
trade a vintage Harnell with no reel seat. LOL

I have plenty of conventionals that have rod clamps ;)

quote BassDawg
or better yet, out fish 'em~~~~works every time

W.O.W>

I've only been shore fishing the last few years. It all started with stupid luck but over time I've put in time and searched the shore for sign and tried quite a few different spots few nights in a row some people told me about a buddy of a buddy some i read about Most i just found..

this my spot crap has to be the biggest pain in the a$$ for new guys on the shore..
last season I remember one night its about 11 -12 i was alone and hitting pretty well from the beach.. some older guy comes up behind me and asked "Hows my spot working out for you." I tried to be nice to the guy but the next thing i know he is wading out into the water in front of me.. and starts fishing in my line of sight.. I dropped my line around him a few times with a I was here first attitude.. but after a little while and some less then nice words I ended up moving down the beach...

We are all out there with the same objective. Very few shore fishers make there living at it. I dont see the point of all this my spot crap

I've only been shore fishing the last few years. It all started with stupid luck but over time I've put in time and searched the shore for sign and tried quite a few different spots few nights in a row some people told me about a buddy of a buddy some i read about Most i just found..

this my spot crap has to be the biggest pain in the a$$ for new guys on the shore..
last season I remember one night its about 11 -12 i was alone and hitting pretty well from the beach.. some older guy comes up behind me and asked "Hows my spot working out for you." I tried to be nice to the guy but the next thing i know he is wading out into the water in front of me.. and starts fishing in my line of sight.. I dropped my line around him a few times with a I was here first attitude.. but after a little while and some less then nice words I ended up moving down the beach...

We are all out there with the same objective. Very few shore fishers make there living at it. I dont see the point of all this my spot crap

That's brutal dude. What an A-Hole he was!

I can see it from both point of views.. I gear up and get ready to head to a spot and I am a little disappointed when i drive 45 minutes to see someone standing in my foot prints from the night before, but i try not to let it phase me and move down the beach.. None of us own these spots.
If you ole dogs that feel you earned/own a spot. you should be good enough to catch near your favorite spot (share) or move on to another spot if some one beat you to it...

Also who cares if someone burns your spot take it as a compliment you figured it out a long time before the other guy.. You had your time there share or move on.