http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOzP6XhtAXo
part 3 of 4. you can see the whole show on youtube

reminds me of the Bill Hicks quote:
All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.....


:smokin:

the mind of God is musicresonating through ten dimensional hyper space....
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that's why we thrive so much on music....


so easy a caveman could visualize it ----:rotf3:


Great thread MOTO

The little bit about string theory that I have read about has taught me one thing:

String theory can completely screw with your mind and a lot of conventional wisdom.

Short version
Ainulindalë ("The Music of the Ainur"[5]), takes the form of a primary creation myth. Ilúvatar ("Father of All") first created the Ainur, a group of eternal spirits or demiurges, called "the offspring of his thought". Ilúvatar brought the Ainur together and showed them a theme, from which he bade them make a great music

Long version
Ainulindalë tell of the time before Time. First to be named is Ilúvatar (God) (‘Father of All’ , also called ‘Eru – “the One, He that is Alone”’). Ilúvatar, as his names imply, exists before and independently of all else. He can take a particular concept, thesis or theme, and ‘give a secret fire to it’, will it into being, so it exists as a distinct object or entity. Such existence itself is a representation and concretization of divine conceptualizations: there is first the idea, then the concrete, or ‘objective’, manifestation commensurate with that idea. The ‘Ainur’ (meaning ‘Holy Ones’, singular ‘Ainu’) are the first such concepts-embodied or themes-realized; they are the children ‘of Ilúvatar’s thought.’ Upon their creation, when nothing else exists, Ilúvatar teaches the Ainur the art of ‘Music’, which becomes their life and work. So Heaven becomes filled with the making of Music.

With each Ainu comprehending at first only those secondary ideas and themes most closely related to that primary idea-theme-thought of Ilúvatar’s which pre-figured itself, these creative musical elaborations only gradually, through exposure to each other, become collaborative. The compositions revolve around themes given to each Ainu by Ilúvatar, which themes correspond respectively to those primary themes/concepts embodied in each Ainu – that indeed are each Ainu. Through listening and contemplation, an Ainu becomes aware of other Ainur, other musics, and the cultivation and adornment of other themes.

After a time of Music, Ilúvatar proposes a first ‘great’ design/theme/plan to all the Ainur at once: a symphony for His pleasure. He then charges them with the collective elaboration of this great design/plan/theme. They are to play themselves at composition.

While it is true that the Ainur are Ilúvatar’s thoughts embodied, they each have a life of their own, and are expected to utilize their ‘freedom’ by cultivating the grand theme. Only in the future, at the ‘end of days’, will all the created beings of Ilúvatar fully understand not only the divinely provided concepts and themes they each personally embody, but how each relates to all the others and fits (as per Ilúvatar’s intentions) in the entire greater scheme.
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This was all written by Tolkien, some time after 1937. It was not published until 1977 after his death. Its his ideas on creation and the origins of the universe.

Essentially he says the universe is made up of many different musical thoughts composed by the beings god conceived with thought and instructed to create music which they all did independently. He also says that only in "the end of days" will each be able to comprehend the music the others have created and be able to combine it all into the grand symphony god had in mind when he created them and instructed them to write each part.


This was decades before any physicist came up with a string theory. Pretty cool really! :)

I've had enough of being blinded by science for one lifetime.

We keep seeing these outlandish theories proven true. Some are crazy as all hell, but are later proven true. That leads me to think that whatever humans can dream can come to be. Flying, space travel, talking to people no matter where they are in the world, it's all come true. It's time to start thinking of things worthy of us, I think...
Are we the dreamer or the dream?

We keep seeing these outlandish theories proven true. Some are crazy as all hell, but are later proven true. That leads me to think that whatever humans can dream can come to be. Flying, space travel, talking to people no matter where they are in the world, it's all come true. It's time to start thinking of things worthy of us, I think...
Are we the dreamer or the dream?
check this out FRED

england scientists created human SPERM from stem cells

so NOW .................even us MEN are obsolete.....

sorry not about string theory but mind boggling to think of too

video
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/31801542#31801542

Science has done great things for us and I'm very appreciative. I've had very little contact scientists outside of the science classes I took as an adult student and a couple of doctors I know well.
I don't know if this is widespread or not, but I noticed they don't really respect the humanities very much - yet they expect to be respected by all.
I find this very interesting.
If you think about it, despite all our scientific advancement we're still struggling with the same basic issues and divisions. For all we've learned, science has made little headway toward the answers to life's greatest questions.

Joe, I think that's because of the present scientific discipline of studying the mechanics of life rather than the art of life. Once we master the art without relying on under-classes to do our suffering for us, meaning the heavy lifting, then we'll approach our potential. We're no where close at present and sometimes I feel that we are sliding backward.