Anyone else excited for this one? Premieres tonight at 9 on Dicovery.

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/swords/

I am interested, i hope they show her getting arrested.

Not really...
Long lining leaves a bad taste in my mouth....
I have a self imposed Swordfish ban (unless I know where it came from; dart or R&R)

I hope they never do a show on surfcasting new england... when spots are crowded on august full moon weeknights, the last thing we would need is promotion.

Toby what's up with that hat? Did you lose a bet and had to post that as your avatar::uhuh:

watching it now... what ever happend to the lobster one?

Anyone else excited for this one? Premieres tonight at 9 on Dicovery.

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/swords/

I think it might be interesting.

I hope they never do a show on surfcasting new england... when spots are crowded on august full moon weeknights, the last thing we would need is promotion.

I can't wait to see the movie "Montauk Rocks" come out :rolleyes:.

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/showthread.php?t=55068

It's already a zoo out there. You can usually find some room though. Plus, the googs make for good entertainment :rotf2:.

"if they hook a shark they have to let it go"

Yet they stuck and gaffed the mako?

Yeah.

This show is a pile of crap so far.

you know what happened to the lobster show... After deadliest catch, how can you have a show about fetching lobsters in "treacherous" 8 foot seas with 70 degree water 5 miles from touristville? Maybe if this show came out first, but honestly... that show blew.

Like to see local boats out of my home town, New bedford on tv. But didnt know newbedford was still NE largest fishing port?

I caught that too but he said that after all the blood in the water before the shark even came on the boat :)

lame.

"if they hook a shark they have to let it go"

Yet they stuck and gaffed the mako?

Yeah.

This show is a pile of crap so far.

Chronicle had a show on last week re NB. I believe they quoted that if you ate any of the dozen or so fish they mentioned in PARIS that chances are it came out of NB. Sid Wainer is the biggest distributor now they said. Something around 60% of restaurant seafood in the US comes out of NB.

Like to see local boats out of my home town, New bedford on tv. But didnt know newbedford was still NE largest fishing port?

Not really...
Long lining leaves a bad taste in my mouth....
I have a self imposed Swordfish ban (unless I know where it came from; dart or R&R)

Me, too. Few people realize one of the best swordfish grounds in the world was the water between BI and Nomans and out 10-15 miles. As a kid I watched 300-500lb fish brought to the dock by boats out for just the day (harpooned). Long lining put an end to all that and wiped out the great white marlin fishery we had 20 years ago to boot. Just another commercial interest/fishery management/greed horror story.

I only watched because I was fog bound... that Mako didnt live.... what about the baby sword Chompers caught... not legal.. but dead.. alot of waste... too much blood for the average folk.. show wont be as popular as the crabbers..

Wasn't too impressed - may watch on occasion and might not.

I also have a self-imposed sword ban. Another case of too many hooks in the water.

Gaff and release a baby sword, and gaff and presumably cut loose a pup mako with 3 gaffs in it in the first 15 min.

I'll watch out of curiosity, but longlining sucks.

longlines - another indescriminate killer...:smash: that boy from nc - not too bright, 55' to the banks...betcha they did'nt buy many episodes.

Thought it was OK, nothing great. May give it a few more episodes but will prob. get bored. However, I do love swordfish.

:hidin:

I didn't get a chance to see it - I'll have to try and catch the repeat but it doesn't sound like I missed much

My wife and I have refused to buy or eat sword for years - I'd always opt for mako which we felt was a lot better if I could find it - but we haven't bought it either given the state of that fishery

Here's an image I have from the old Angler's Art website circa 1911 of a sword catch at BI - I've got another - if I can find it...:mad:...with a gentleman who looks remarkably like my great-grandfather (who spent lots of time on the Block during that period)

Hell, he probably spent time drinking nickel beers with Joe Lyon's great grandpa at the National there on the Island back in the day...:hihi:

Pretty disheartening when you stop to realize what we once had and is no more...:hs:

On one hand, I like to watch ANYONE fish, on the other, I hate seeing such waste as the small sword and the shark. I was on a party boat in the keys a while back catching mostly yellowtail. The mates set up on a shark, battled it for almost 2 hrs, then gaffed it in the tail, then the gills, then the line snapped and i watched a beautiful 11ft hammerhead drift to the bottom bleeding out. They were pissed when I told them they werent getting a dime for a tip from me. It was the last time I did a party boat thing.

On one hand, I like to watch ANYONE fish, on the other, I hate seeing such waste as the small sword and the shark. I was on a party boat in the keys a while back catching mostly yellowtail. The mates set up on a shark, battled it for almost 2 hrs, then gaffed it in the tail, then the gills, then the line snapped and i watched a beautiful 11ft hammerhead drift to the bottom bleeding out. They were pissed when I told them they werent getting a dime for a tip from me. It was the last time I did a party boat thing.

Good for you! I gave up swordfish long ago. I eat Bass and farm raised Salmon.

I only watched because I was fog bound... that Mako didnt live.... what about the baby sword Chompers caught... not legal.. but dead.. alot of waste... too much blood for the average folk.. show wont be as popular as the crabbers..

agreed, its one thing to see a full pot of crab come over the rail, but seeing swords and big tuna get dragged on board bleeding will put a lot of viewers off quickly...

It's also one thing to haul crab DURING dangerous seas, and another to finish hauling fish before a storm hits.

This will rank up along with the Lobstermen saga and the Tuna Wranglers......:yawn::sleeps:

Oh, and if you didn't hear it the tenth time.......If we don't catch fish I'll lose the boat, business, house, truck on and on and on.....

a lot of false drama. way too many commercails and just brutal. Nice gaff job on the mako. the tuna was cool though. Dont eat sword either and yes long liners suck.

I spent a year and a half of my life creating a video (Gladiator of the Deep/Death of a Resource) that showed how destructive longlining and ocean drift gillnetting was to swordfish, sharks, turtles and sea birds. The RFA was instrumental in getting the current time and territory closures in Florida that has been responsible for much of the swordfish comeback...I have NO use for either non-selective method of fishing.

not that great of a first epidsode. baby Mako gaffed... baby sword dead...

I'd like to see a show of draggers killing 10,000 pounds of fluke to make their 1,000 pounds of Jumbos NOW THATS A SHOW WORTH WATCHING!!! :uhuh::uhuh::uhuh::uhuh::uhuh::uhuh::uhuh:

Ask Macojoe, happens out by lucas all the time

Mayb they should do an expose' of the destructive nature of the commercial industries that make their living off of the ocean.
No favoritism, cover each industry equally, so that you see the REAL price we pay for seafood.

It could cover so much territory, and let us know about the seafood we eat, where is is harvested, and the methods involved in harvesting.

Either the editor of this show was drinking, or they want to purposely get PETA bent out of shape.

I thought it was going to be more interesting being local. While it was cool seeing the large tuna brought on board, I was turned off by a lot of the show as others have mentioned. The baby sword and the gaff-and-released mako were a little much for me. Looks like I'll have to stick to re-runs of deadliest catch and the old ladie's 10 different real housewives shows. :wall:

Either the editor of this show was drinking, or they want to purposely get PETA bent out of shape.

Nevermind PETA. Nobody likes longliners.
Not even guys on midwater trawlers.

Not even guys on midwater trawlers.

That's the pot calling the kettle....

They've done more damage than anybody.

sword wars?? can't wait

I only eat pond raised swordfish.


Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body...but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand - martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO~HOO - What a Ride!

As far as indiscriminate fisheries, put the following in order from worst to less.

Long lining, Gillnet, Bottom Dragging.

My guess would be
Gillnet, Bottom dragging, Long lining

Guy being interviewed on wzlx Sunday morning talk radio is some guy who has dedicated his life to trash in the ocean. He says one of the biggest things with them is long liners. In a storm I guess these guys lose the lines. They end up tangling something and causing huge "garbage patches" in the ocean.

Just thought it was an interesting point given the talk of this show.

as far as TV goes, i thought it was pretty good compared to the rest of the crap that is on. i'm not going to pile on the guys for trying to make a living, whether i agree with it or not. and by the way, that mako would taste good on the grill.

Awecomeon now...you all know that it was the rec fishermen than wiped out swordfish, cod, bass, fluke, herring bunker and every other species in trouble...Comm fishermen have quota's they can do no damage:rollem: ... you should know better.

Indiscriminate methods of fishing are obsolete and should be stopped world wide. But the chances of this happening are slim to none. Comm fisherman have the very attitude spouted by the clip of that show.."I don't care who is working against you we are going to get ours" (even if it is the last fish in the sea)

MaineToday.com | News Update: Linda Greenlaw arrested in Canada (http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/033546.html) :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

DUMBASS

I have been watching and have found some of it intriguing. The best part was the crew on board the Eagle Eye got about 25,000 each. Then they flash to Chompers wife handing out checks and those guy got 800 each. Now I am no business man but she said she had to borrow money to pay her crew, and their boat hauled in the 2nd most catch, either someone lives high on the hog, or needs remedial math :smash:

If his crew were smart they would tell him to pound sand especially with all the crap they put up with from him..

yeah I think its a good show. that's too bad about Linda, but hey, ya gotta play by the rules I or pay the price

as for the math on the Big Eye, they must be in some serious debt over their heads or somebody ain't tellin the truth

you know what happened to the lobster show... After deadliest catch, how can you have a show about fetching lobsters in "treacherous" 8 foot seas with 70 degree water 5 miles from touristville? Maybe if this show came out first, but honestly... that show blew.

true that

I saw a rerun of Swords yesterday or the day before. I found it to be ridiculous. On Linda Greenlaw's boat they lose a bunch of gutted sword carcasses because the boat rolls and they have the gunnel door open. If I'm fishing for money I'm figuring our a way to secure my catch. Just seemed like the show was too contrived to make it compete with "The Deadliest Catch".

all I can say is when you all that bash walk a mile in the shoes of the men you like to bash so hard then talk.... Oh wait you dont here that one owner had a green captain that came in about 100 pounds over on monk tail one day on a new bout... Here is the important part.. OWNER CAPTAIN AND BOAT NEVER I MEAN NEVER HAD AN OVER QUOTA INFRACYION THE OWNER HAS BEEN FISHING FOR BETTER THAN 30 YEARS.... You dont hear this part first things first 30 day tie up boat and captain.. hmm month outta work .. that hurts.. part 2 5 DAYS AT SEA.. Ok that is a death nail once your landings are off you lose those days permanately... oh and they get 28 a year to start with.. part 3 200k fine yea thats 200,000 hmm and yall think you get hit for speeding to work in am after a long night...now the fine was levied down to 75k the days not lost and the 30 day stayed in affect.. Only took 2 years and god knows how much in lawyers fees.. Im sorry but yall watch a show and get this bashing going.. First chompers is an idiot.. the shark was not kept maybe cause of permits.. The gaffing it... well hey it is what it is.. I doubt any one n this forum is christ like or virgin of sin in fishing... You have no idea what ist like to do this in most cases, its not an easy beer drinking life style its hard work and a hard life.. I know first hand lobstered and long lined.. When your in 25+ foot seas on a 50 foot boat yea life is great... people get freaked out about 5 foot swells in their 33 foot cc ha!... sorry guys I do not care what any one thinks If you dont live it dont bash it... Yea my family has been in commercial fishing for many generations and is now getting sqeezed in a stranglehold by the NMFA and its regs and cutbacks... I dont think if any of you were looking at working 14 days a year and that was all that was allowed you would be impressed either... And as far as the fisheries between the block and mainland... I know first hand what that was about... My family is there and has been since day one... sorry I went on this rant but......

all I can say is when you all that bash walk a mile in the shoes of the men you like to bash so hard then talk.... Oh wait you dont here that one owner had a green captain that came in about 100 pounds over on monk tail one day on a new bout... Here is the important part.. OWNER CAPTAIN AND BOAT NEVER I MEAN NEVER HAD AN OVER QUOTA INFRACYION THE OWNER HAS BEEN FISHING FOR BETTER THAN 30 YEARS.... You dont hear this part first things first 30 day tie up boat and captain.. hmm month outta work .. that hurts.. part 2 5 DAYS AT SEA.. Ok that is a death nail once your landings are off you lose those days permanately... oh and they get 28 a year to start with.. part 3 200k fine yea thats 200,000 hmm and yall think you get hit for speeding to work in am after a long night...now the fine was levied down to 75k the days not lost and the 30 day stayed in affect.. Only took 2 years and god knows how much in lawyers fees.. Im sorry but yall watch a show and get this bashing going.. First chompers is an idiot.. the shark was not kept maybe cause of permits.. The gaffing it... well hey it is what it is.. I doubt any one n this forum is christ like or virgin of sin in fishing... You have no idea what ist like to do this in most cases, its not an easy beer drinking life style its hard work and a hard life.. I know first hand lobstered and long lined.. When your in 25+ foot seas on a 50 foot boat yea life is great... people get freaked out about 5 foot swells in their 33 foot cc ha!... sorry guys I do not care what any one thinks If you dont live it dont bash it... Yea my family has been in commercial fishing for many generations and is now getting sqeezed in a stranglehold by the NMFA and its regs and cutbacks... I dont think if any of you were looking at working 14 days a year and that was all that was allowed you would be impressed either... And as far as the fisheries between the block and mainland... I know first hand what that was about... My family is there and has been since day one... sorry I went on this rant but......

I wasn't bashing the captain, Linda Greenlaw. She has a huge reputation and deservedly so. I was bashing the producers of the show who made her and the other boat captains look like a bunch of fools. They didn't portray the hard life that a commercial fisherman has. They seems to think that by showing a bunch of guys jumping around yelling "this is what it's about" they were doing justice to a hard working bunch of regular people.

BTW, I would never bash the commercial guys. I worked with a bunch of guys who were commercial deep water lobstermen and other who worked draggers. I was a logger at the time and use to trade firewood for lobster and tile fish (when they were fishing tiles).

How do you even live on 28 days at sea ?

I watched the show for a few hours the other night,
It was OK , not sure if I will watch again,

I have not eaten a Sword Fish in over 22 years , I thought everyone was boycotting them? (Hell I am doing my part) :rotf2:

In the good old days they were stacked up like cords of wood on the Vineyard, and they sold the sword's inside for a few bucks as I remember

VB

How do you even live on 28 days at sea ?

Exactly you tell me and the rest of the ground fisheries... oh wait if you fish area X recount oh hahaha sorry was that 28 oh no no you get 14 days cause every one of your days out counts as two.... You tell me

Exactly you tell me and the rest of the ground fisheries... oh wait if you fish area X recount oh hahaha sorry was that 28 oh no no you get 14 days cause every one of your days out counts as two.... You tell me

Man,. . . . why bother
How do you fill the void ?
I'd be out of my mind.

I know that when Greenlaw was arrested in Canada she had the camera crew on board with her. She says her gear was swept into the illegal fishing grounds by the current and she was merely going back to retrieve her gear. :biglaugh:

Anyway, I wonder if they are going to show any footage from the arrest. Probably not, but that would be pretty cool.

Man,. . . . why bother
How do you fill the void ?
I'd be out of my mind.


Well if people realized how tight the regs are for gillnet and and longline they may look at it different but hey ya know as long as miff and biff get there fish when they joy ride in the benz thats all that matters right??? Fishin commercialy is no where near or ever will be what it was... I know first hand thanks to family and my own experience... the sad fact is no one will be able to complain soon... Our great government that can mess up a one car funeral or wet dream is gonna be running it and making it corporate... So hope yall like fishing for nada.... Not for nothin the government run or overseeing things scares me... LOOK AT TR#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&G feds deregulated freight in the 70s and since the only thing that has gone up is fuel. truck cost, insurance cost,... freight still in the toilet for pricing... sad sad sad...