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spinncognito 08-26-2009, 11:52 AM OK all you amateur meteorologists... looks like we have a newly developed Tropical Storm- Danny. The early reports have this system hitting anywhere from the Carolinas to Canada. The possibility exists that a significant tropical storm or perhaps even a minimal hurricane could plow into Cape Cod by this weekend. Could this be another passing blow ala "Bill" or a complete miss or a dead-on bullseye hit? Whattaya all think? Will this be the storm that kicks the fall run into high gear or just weed everything up to unfishable conditions?
Let the predictions, the hype and the fun begin. :jump1:
Crafty Angler 08-26-2009, 11:55 AM Danny'll be barely a one bottle gale...:smokin:
cheferson 08-26-2009, 11:58 AM Minor hurricane making landfall between newport and the canal !!! No work for me saturday is my prediction ( a la crack dream probally )
Back Beach 08-26-2009, 12:02 PM Complete and utter mayhem...dog and cats living together, pluggers and eelers joining in a group hug, boatmen fishing the surf...
Raven 08-26-2009, 12:23 PM i think some day that the really BIG one will change the whole topography of Cape Cod so bad that they will have to
change all the maps. :devil2:
striperman36 08-26-2009, 12:35 PM I am with Cheferson with this one, it ain't no crack dream, maybe the not working part for him. But its a baby hurricane
I'm hoping it does nothing. It has the potential for me at least to completely ruin and an already abysmal season.
PaulS 08-26-2009, 01:11 PM Living on LI sound, is it selfish to hope it takes out LI?
Karl F 08-26-2009, 01:29 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/3094873602_7a7633182f.jpg?v=0Danny'll be barely a one bottle gale...:smokin:
the above size, should cover Danny...as of now...
JoeBass 08-26-2009, 01:30 PM Striper fishermen all over New England will gather plovers and keep them warm under lightbulbs in cardboard boxes lined with newspaper...until the danger has passed and they can be returned to their exclusive grounds.
RIROCKHOUND 08-26-2009, 02:27 PM RIRock's prediction sure to go wrong...
Strong tropical storm. Below Hurr. strength
Highest gust in RI will be on the Block at 50kt. Highest sustained in SoCo will be 30-40kts.
Depending on the track MV or ACK will hit 60kt gusts.
Minor shoreline erosion, 2-3ft of storm surge for one tidal cycle. Erosion will be a bit more than if this was the first storm of the season, but not drastic.
Clammer 08-26-2009, 02:30 PM MISS ><>< :smash:
likwid 08-26-2009, 02:31 PM I predict more surfing at MTK.
And more surfcasters crying up a storm. :rotf2:
striperman36 08-26-2009, 02:34 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/3094873602_7a7633182f.jpg?v=0
the above size, should cover Danny...as of now...
Just 1 nip or the whole lot?
BigFish 08-26-2009, 02:38 PM I predict I do not care! Storm, no storm...it is what it is!
piemma 08-26-2009, 02:46 PM Complete and utter mayhem..., boatmen fishing the surf...
Believe it or not, I think I sold my boat. Good thing I kept all my waders, Korkers and suft rods.
Back Beach 08-26-2009, 02:53 PM Believe it or not, I think I sold my boat.
Let me guess...you bought some new ping irons and a bunch of those naked lady tees...:laugha:
RIROCKHOUND 08-26-2009, 02:56 PM No, PI is the most impulsive man on earth :D
Raven 08-26-2009, 03:14 PM hey what's that honey bottle there?
JohnR 08-26-2009, 03:16 PM Lessea - this should update the image from NOAA's NHC by refrehsing every few hours:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL0509W5_NL+gif/143059W5_NL_sm.gif
And the current path as of 4 PM Wednesday is attached so we can watch the changes.
UserRemoved1 08-26-2009, 03:28 PM Well I guess I won't be riding the motorcycle this weekend :wall:
Karl F 08-26-2009, 03:39 PM Just 1 nip or the whole lot?
totaly up to the "needs" of the individual... i have more than one custumer, who would call that portion.... "breakfast"...on any given day..
hey what's that honey bottle there?
American Honey, by Wild Turkey, used to come in a nice package, when it was just called Wild Turkey Liqueur..
Wild Turkey based Honey Liqueur...
Great in Tea, I would imagine...:jump1:
Raven 08-26-2009, 03:44 PM i'll see if they sell nips... of it...
not much of a drinker anymore.... for health reasons
likwid 08-26-2009, 05:22 PM Lessea - this should update the image from NOAA's NHC by refrehsing every few hours:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT05/refresh/AL0509W5_NL+gif/143059W5_NL_sm.gif
And the current path as of 4 PM Wednesday is attached so we can watch the changes.
Suppose I should put gas in the chainsaw this time.
I predict it slams NC and creates a lotta rain for New England :biglaugh:
Mike P 08-26-2009, 05:44 PM I predict it slams NC and creates a lotta rain for New England :biglaugh:
I dunno--the westernmost projected track would have it just brushing Hatteras. Hurricanes don't lose a lot of strength by just brushing the coast. It'll have plenty of time to regain strength over the Gulf Stream on its way up from there.
I can see the eye of this thing tracking right up the Canal.
spinncognito 08-26-2009, 06:45 PM I dunno--the westernmost projected track would have it just brushing Hatteras. Hurricanes don't lose a lot of strength by just brushing the coast. It'll have plenty of time to regain strength over the Gulf Stream on its way up from there.
I can see the eye of this thing tracking right up the Canal.
I going to say a little left of that track giving the coastal areas the brunt of whatever wind he has. Gonna be fun to watch the next coupla days.
striperman36 08-26-2009, 06:52 PM http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200992_model.html#a_topad
quick decision 08-26-2009, 08:00 PM Living on LI sound, is it selfish to hope it takes out LI?
no
Backbeach Jake 08-26-2009, 08:27 PM From my extensive past personal experiences with these storms I figure that I'll wind up good and screwed out of another productive weekend. Karl, why is your Wild Turkey pink on my 'puter?
I like the concept of the "Cone of Uncertainty."
Mike P 08-26-2009, 09:57 PM I like the concept of the "Cone of Uncertainty."
It's also known as the cone of "we don't really have a %$%$%$%$ing clue even with the gazillion dollars worth of instruments we have" :rotf2:
All last week it was gale force winds on the Cape as Bill passed out to sea--and the freaking leaves on my trees weren't even rustling when it did pass.
striperman36 08-26-2009, 10:18 PM Saturday: E wind 14 to 19 kt becoming NE 22 to 27 kt in the afternoon. Showers likely. The rain could be heavy at times. Seas 4 to 5 ft.
Saturday Night: N wind 33 to 38 kt becoming variable and less than 5 kt after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 49 kt. Showers likely. Seas around 4 ft.
Crafty Angler 08-27-2009, 12:45 AM Hmmm...the CraftyCast on this one has been updated as of 1 AM EST...
Current indications are that Danny will develop into a Two Bottle Gale by Saturday afternoon across most of Southeastern New England.
Hurricane Expert Mike P is predicting landfall in the Cape Cod area, hitting the Sagamore Bridge dead on the nuts late Saturday afternoon...however, the Cone of Uncertainty includes a broad area from Joe Lyons house to the west over to Karl F's counter at the liquor store to the east, where pre-storm predictions call for a customer surge 4 to 6 feet deep...:laughs:
Hey, I'm ready for it...got a new roof put on the house 2 weeks ago, a basement full of hootch, 2 spare D batteries and a can of Sterno...so I'm still all set from the hurricane preparedness drill for Hurricane Bill...:)
Karl F 08-27-2009, 06:17 AM the "cone of uncertainty" prevails most deeply in the store, especially in the wine dept. ....
"which one should I choose?"...
i think that is the "cone's" residence..
:buds:
party on... Hurricane Party, that is...
likwid 08-27-2009, 07:00 AM A little easting in Danny this AM.
Good for us. Bad for Nova Scotia.
I suggest a 2000 Apollonio Copertino Divoto Riserva. A+ red
JohnR 08-27-2009, 07:45 AM One of the local weathermissers was stating he thought it would shift a little west. Good to see the track indicating more easterly.
striperman36 08-27-2009, 08:36 AM A little to the east
I predict that it is looking to trade yugio cards with everyone in new england.. :uhuh:
spinncognito 08-27-2009, 10:44 AM Copied from the Hurricane Center...
Danny has become a little better organized this morning. The
low-level circulation looks better defined than it did yesterday...
and the convection is closer to the center. That being said...the
center is still exposed...the convection has more of a linear
character than the curved bands characteristic of a tropical
cyclone...and the strongest winds are still well removed from the
center. The initial intensity is held at 50 kt pending the next
Air Force Reserve hurricane hunter mission at 18z...although recent
Quikscat data suggests this could be a little generous.
The exposed low-level center has been moving almost due westward for
the past few hours. It is unclear if this is representative of the
actual motion of Danny or a short-term trend. So...the initial
motion is an uncertain 310/11. Despite the problematic initial
motion...the track guidance models are in excellent agreement that
Danny should turn northward over the next 24-36 hr in advance of a
complex deep-layer trough moving into the eastern United States.
After that...the storm should accelerate northeastward into the
westerlies...passing near or over New England and the Canadian
Maritimes on its way into the North Atlantic. The
NAM...NOGAPS...and Canadian models are on the left side of the
guidance envelope... calling for the center to pass near Cape
Hatteras and then over New England. The GFS...GFDL...and HWRF are
on the right side...calling for the center to stay offshore until
it reaches Nova Scotia. The new forecast track is adjusted to the
left of the previous track for the first 48 hr based on the initial
position and motion...and it lies down the middle of the guidance
envelope. While the forecast track does not currently show Danny
making landfall in the United States...additional motion to the
left of the track could bring the center near or over the U. S.
Eastern Seaboard.
Danny is currently in an area of upper-level confluent flow
associated with the persistent cyclonic shear axis seen in water
vapor imagery. The large-scale models forecast this feature to be
replaced by an upper-level anticyclone during the next 24-30 hr...
and if this verifies it will give Danny its best chance to
strengthen. Based on this...the intensity forecast calls for Danny
to strengthen during the 24-48 hr period...with a peak intensity of
65 kt. The guidance agrees that Danny should start losing tropical
characteristics and intensity after 48 hr as it becomes embedded in
a strong baroclinic environment. Overall...the intensity forecast
is in best agreement with the intensity consensus...with the peak
intensity below that of the HWRF and GFDL models.
I dunno--the westernmost projected track would have it just brushing Hatteras. Hurricanes don't lose a lot of strength by just brushing the coast. It'll have plenty of time to regain strength over the Gulf Stream on its way up from there.
I can see the eye of this thing tracking right up the Canal.
Sorry Mike....I was just being a wisebutt. I thought the smiley gave it away. I always like that prediction because I will be right AT LEAST some of the time! haha!
Fish_Eye 08-27-2009, 11:42 AM Here's the latest from CDC and CT Health Dept.
Typhoon 08-27-2009, 12:15 PM Great read here:
http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/index.php?showtopic=204569&st=460
It's a forum for meteorologists... some of this stuff is way over my head where they're analyzing convection from satelite photos. From the reading I'm doing here they're saying a more westerly track, while the weatherpeople on the Boston stations are saying a more easterly track.
likwid 08-27-2009, 12:53 PM TS conditions forecasted for Saturday from LI to NH. :lama:
OLD GOAT 08-27-2009, 01:15 PM If the trees don't fall, no big deal. Small tides, fast moving, other than the sound side and buzards bay which might have trouble with the canal tunnel flooding.
UserRemoved1 08-27-2009, 01:23 PM What's a yugio card?
RIROCKHOUND 08-27-2009, 02:08 PM From Pro-Jo.com
Read the last two paragraphs... interesting after the incidents earlier this summer...
PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- It looks like we're in for a beautiful day Thursday. Enjoy it, since the weekend could be a washout, as the region could feel the impact of Tropical Storm Danny.
The temperature should reach a high near 78 degrees with a north wind of 9 mph. Thursday, according to the National Weather Service.
Wednesday night should be partly cloudy with a low of 55 degrees.
The state Emergency Management Agency warned Wednesday that Danny could bring heavy rain and coastal flooding to Rhode Island.
The weather service's National Hurricane Center reports that the center of Tropical Storm Danny has reformed about 575 miles south-southeast of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, and the agency advises those living from the Carolinas to New England to monitor its progress.
It has maximum winds of 60 mph with stronger gusts and is moving northwest at 10 mph. Danny is expected to strengthen over the next couple of days and become a hurricane.
"The official forecast is shifted eastward because of the center reformation and the good track model agreement," the weather service says, adding that."any significant deviation to the west of the forecast track would bring Danny closer to the U.S. East Coast. "
As Danny makes its way up the Atlantic Coast, the Coast Guard is advising paddle and small craft owners to secure their vessels and gear. Adrift, unmanned paddle craft such as canoes and kayaks, are considered a sign of distress and could result in a false search and rescue alarm.
Mariners are also asked to secure mooring lines, life rings, life jackets and any other items that could break free and cause damage.
"We are headed for some rough weather this weekend," Al Johnson, First Coast Guard District recreational boating safety specialist, said in a prepared statement. "Securing your vessels prior to the storm could save your property and allow the Coast Guard to be more effective on the water."
For more weather and regular updates, see projo.com/weather.
Slipknot 08-27-2009, 03:32 PM What's a yugio card?
ask Danny
UserRemoved1 08-27-2009, 03:35 PM :hee:
ask Danny
wader-dad 08-27-2009, 04:54 PM I am the Cohn of uncertainty. :confused:
striperman36 08-27-2009, 07:23 PM Danny remains in an area of upper-level confluent flow associated
with the persistent cyclonic shear axis seen in water vapor
imagery. In addition...both water vapor imagery and ssm/is total
precipitable water imagery suggest that the environment near Danny
is dry. These factors...combined with the current lack of
organization...suggests that strengthening will be slow at best
during the next 24 hr.
Nothing, TS at best
PaulS 08-28-2009, 06:43 AM The next few storms are going to be named darter, floater, pencil, needlefish and spook.
Karl F 08-28-2009, 06:47 AM NEWSFLASH
After an angry call to the Hurricane center from Gibb's Lures legal dept., the name of this storm will no longer be Danny, seeing as they have the exclusive rights to use that name.
Therefore this will be TS Flat Nosed Lipped Swimmer....
UserRemoved1 08-28-2009, 06:50 AM karl I got that card ya wanna trade?
Raven 08-28-2009, 11:37 AM sounds like the Perfect storm scenario
3 storms heading our way
simultaneously :confused:
says the weatherman...
Raven 08-28-2009, 11:38 AM it's now been bumped up to a two bottle storm :grins:
JohnR 08-28-2009, 12:57 PM NEWSFLASH
After an angry call to the Hurricane center from Gibb's Lures legal dept., the name of this storm will no longer be Danny, seeing as they have the exclusive rights to use that name.
Therefore this will be TS Flat Nosed Lipped Swimmer....
:rotf2:
For Sale, Tropical Storm ( Insert Your Name Here ) Plug Billboard Advertising :fishin:
RIROCKHOUND 08-28-2009, 01:01 PM RIRock's prediction sure to go wrong...
Strong tropical storm. Below Hurr. strength
Highest gust in RI will be on the Block at 50kt. Highest sustained in SoCo will be 30-40kts.
Depending on the track MV or ACK will hit 60kt gusts.
Minor shoreline erosion, 2-3ft of storm surge for one tidal cycle. Erosion will be a bit more than if this was the first storm of the season, but not drastic.
Was sure to go wrong;
Change to 20-30 sustained in RI and 40-50kt gusys on ACK and I was close :smash:
clammer got it right with 'Miss'
striperman36 08-28-2009, 01:22 PM Was sure to go wrong;
Change to 20-30 sustained in RI and 40-50kt gusys on ACK and I was close :smash:
clammer got it right with 'Miss'
It's going to be close to that, unless that trough bites a little harder and then it won't be 35kt gusts.
Karl F 08-28-2009, 05:28 PM A sharp dressed British gentleman was waiting for a lorry,
an intoxicated hobo was curled up in front of the building behind him..
a lovely lass joined the gentlemen at the lorry stop, as they were
waiting the gent muttered... "tickle your ass with a feather" rather
quickly... the lass shouted, "What did you say??"..
"Sorry Miss, I merely stated, "Typical Nasty Weather!", no insult intended!"
She seemed embarrassed, and apologized for the confusion..
the lorry came, and the gent and the lass boarded...
A few minutes later a middle aged woman arrived to wait for the next lorry..
The hobo, who was amused by the gents trick thought he would give it a try...but could not quite remember what to say...so...
He said a little too loudly.. "Shove a quill up yer ass!"
The woman was horrified and shrieked..."What did you say to me, you smelly bum?"
"Sorry lady....*hic*...
all I said was...."
"Gonna Rain!"
and that is all it's gonna do :D
well.. a little wind too...
i really don't think this thing is gonna strengthen going over colder waters...
and the local update:
http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090828/NEWS11/908289992
Raven 08-29-2009, 04:02 AM :rotf2:
For Sale, Tropical Storm ( Insert Your Name Here ) Plug Billboard Advertising :fishin:
if i had to name it...it would be Mary
jredfly 08-29-2009, 07:28 AM Back Beach - this was really funny - I got a good laugh on this crappy day - Thanks!!!
"Complete and utter mayhem...dog and cats living together, pluggers and eelers joining in a group hug, boatmen fishing the surf...":rotf2:
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