View Full Version : trolling rigs?
GBOUTDOORS 02-05-2003, 07:43 AM Ok lets get back to fishing here. Lets hear about your favorite way to fish from the boat and what lures do you troll? Has anyone got any 9er,s umbrella rigs? Do you like them? Just picked up a few to use this season came out cheaper than making my own. If you whent to the boat show did you see the new LARGE size they have for this year?
JohnR 02-05-2003, 08:21 AM My favorite way to fish from a boat is probably live baiting herring, pogies, & macs. Just awesome fun and a little twisted :devil: Next to that? Slinging eels & plugs into the rocks!
Trolling, tube -n- work are OK but less fun to me and just less active participation to me...
When I troll (not that often cause' "I'm a chunker/live baiter"),
I like tube n wormin'.
It's alot easier than 9ers, and there isnt so much drag.
With 9ers I have to go to deeper water and they always seem
to get hung up on something, and they get weeded up real quick.
I find the tube is in the water longer cause it stays pretty clean,
I would like to add somne kind of "weedless" hook to the tube
and have it under even longer.
For deepp water like bluefishing I troll the big swimmers. ie rapalas and jawbreakers, ususally on wire and heavy mono.
When you troll, how do you slow your boat down?
Do you have to ?
fishsmith 02-05-2003, 08:54 AM Van I agree, when trolling, the tube & worm is like banging nails, but it does attract as many if not more small, than big fish.
But for $4 and couple tubes it's tough to beat, just make sure you've got good swivels, or the line twist is bad.
To slow the the boat as slow as it can go, I lower the trim all the way.
Clammer 02-05-2003, 09:08 AM GREG ++++TROLLING ???!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????:smash:
mrmacey 02-05-2003, 09:19 AM casting plugs from a boat into the rocks and reeling back towards the boat will it work the same way as fishing from shore!! the concept im getting from looking at all the different lures pepole use is to imitate the bait fish thats around at the time or do stripers hit anything that looks like a fish!! from smiling bills bloo makes to the gigantic plugs slip puts together to tube and worm method theres just so many factors to figure out!!! i guess ill pick one practice technique get it down before i move on to another but the fishing season goes by so quick dont want to waste to much with one way or another!! want to find one that works!!
ps goose im on my way!!
Mr. Kav 02-05-2003, 09:51 AM I love all kinds of techniques for fishing for all different kinds of fish but for stripers like van i chunk and live bait mostly.
Mr Macey
i have taken friends out who just fish from shore and i slowly drift by rock piles with them and they throw their plugs into the rocks and retrieve them to the boat only to see them get exploded on just outside the piles. it is quite a site.
i have a feeling you will see some big fish this coming season.
I like your new Avitar!!!!!!!!!:D
Looks like one of the Fish-On girlies...;)
Mr. Sandman 02-05-2003, 10:13 AM There are so many great ways to fish, but I (try) to let the conditions (weather, wind, tide and currents) dictate how I fish.....For me..Of course topwater with light tackle from a boat is a blast but when the conditions are right....chumming (a very underrated method IMO) , drifting live bait in holes (at night). When the conditions are not right (or during the bright daylight)to do that...I will troll. I dislike wire line but it is very effective when the bottom is not changing much, this year I am getting a set of connon down riggers (electric bottom tracking, well I will start with one to see if it works... they are 1200 each) to use with briaded line to avoid using wire. I hope to put giant tubes, spoons, plugs and chandiler umbreller rigs 3 feet off the rocky bottom.
Mr. Kav 02-05-2003, 10:18 AM thanks van, yes it looks like something they would where fishing for blue marlin but would they wear that winter cod fishing in new england?
That would be a sight to see..
Something funny happens to their #@$% when its cold out!!
:happy: :happy: :happy: :happy:
Reminds of a funny story I'll wait till I see you, but I can tell you
that she was really fine, and really surprised !!!!!:eek:
denis 02-05-2003, 10:53 AM casting jigs and poppers around rocks and on shallow flats,maby a little chunking
Drifting live herring in PJ Pond. Nothing compares to watching that herring swim for it's life before a big bass comes and downs it....Sadistic I know....:), I had a few times last season when the herring came out of the water trying to escape. .
In the summer when live bait is scarce, the old tube -n- worm works for me, and then there is the umbrella. Can't argue either with some of the fish I put in the boat last season...
Mr. Sandman 02-05-2003, 12:32 PM Let me ask you about the worm part of the tube and worm... Do you use a rubba worm or a sea or sand worm? If you use a live worm does it stay on?
I am assuming you are using a big surge tube that spins or wiggles in the water when trolled. I can't see the worm hanging on very long.
Mr. Sandman.
I only use live worms. I have never tried using some of the more popular brands like Berkley's powerbait. I would imagine they also will work. On a typical day to BI I will have a dozen for each person fishing. They do stay on the hook well.
I have had the best luck on dark color tubes, black and purple. Some of the much more experienced fisherman prefer the orange, but they have never worked for me.
fishsmith 02-05-2003, 12:44 PM Sandman,
the sea worm holds on fine, you've got to put it on backwards.
Hook in the body about an inch below the pinchers and out the pinchers. I've never had luck using anything but a seaworm as a trailer.
For tube size I like 18" red or black surgicle tube (its avail at sportsmen den).
mrmacey 02-05-2003, 12:56 PM imitate, a really big worm, the black or purple could be mistaken for an eel but that bright orange hmmmm!!
Mr. Sandman 02-05-2003, 12:58 PM I will give it a try this year... I have heard a lot about them but never added the worm part before...seems weird. Are you guys convinced the worm makes a difference?
Also, some of the hooks on some of these tubes are pretty thick and some of the worms are not that big...
I would call the worm with the pinchers "sand worms" I think some call them sea worms, is that "the" worm to use? (I will toss some stinky berkleys in the box for backups)
mrmacey 02-05-2003, 01:06 PM i think the worm gives off the scent but i was trolling all wrong last year not deep enough but i caught numerous blue fish with that set up
fishsmith 02-05-2003, 01:08 PM I'm convinced you need the worm, what kind of worm, I don't know. I call them sea worms because that's what gets me a dozen of em at the local bait shop.
Mr. Kav 02-05-2003, 01:23 PM i use the tube and worm with a " sea worms " and have had luck on all colors. i find the trick that works for me is trolling slooooooow and close to the bottom. i use a good swivel and a trolling weight to get it down deep because i don't use wire line.
Rip Runner 02-05-2003, 01:25 PM Hi guys, I am a new member and just wanted to comment on the tube and worm technique. If your not using a sea worm, or a berkely powerbait, your NOT fishing to your full capability. You will increase your hits my at least 30%. Sea worms do work best, but they don't stay on as well as a powerbait. I usually fish worms, but if your out of worms, the powerbaits work just fine. Also if your fishing tube and worm, go SLOW, 1.5-3.0 knots.
I agree with all I think the scent of the seaworm helps
attract the fish.
I also have rubber ones, but have never tried them.
Stick with what works...
mrmacey 02-05-2003, 01:30 PM i agree with the worm theroy fresh is best!! but bubba some pepole like rubba!! wow!!rappin on s-b.com!!:smash: :smash:
Mr. Sandman 02-05-2003, 01:32 PM Rip, welcome and thanks for that good first post.
Do you use them with the BIG tubes too?...I have a couple that are in the 3' range ?
Rip Runner 02-05-2003, 01:59 PM I use multiple sized tubes and different colors depending on where I am fishing, how deep, and how big the pods of bass are beneath. I also use "big honkin tubes" as we call them. I also put crushed eal scent on all my tubes before they go into the water.
JohnR 02-05-2003, 02:08 PM Rip - welcome to S-B :btu: Where do you fish?
hooked 02-05-2003, 02:11 PM I heard (or read) that you can toughen the skin of these worms by laying them out individually, rolling them in newspaper and putting them in the refrigerator overnight.
This may be just a load of BS, but I'll probably give it a try this season.
Rip Runner 02-05-2003, 02:18 PM mostly Vineyard sound and the Islands, but I do travel to many other areas.
GBOUTDOORS 02-05-2003, 07:53 PM Mr Sandman I bought a Scotty downrigger a few years ago and find it very good for bass on deep drop offs the only draw back I found was the lead weights rolling around the deck. I think I may have found the answer to that in cabela's saltwater catalog. Its call the Z-Wing and takes the place of the heavy weights. I am going to pick one up for this season and give it a try. They come in two sizes one for fast trolling and the other slow. Here is the web site zwingdownrigger.com check it out. And yes Clammer TROLLING I find that Jane will let me fish while out for a ride so long as its trolling.:cool:
JohnR 02-05-2003, 09:04 PM Sounds good - again, welcome...
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