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UserRemoved1
10-18-2009, 04:32 PM
current work (http://www.chrisjordan.com/current_set2.php?id=11)

A buddy posted this on FB today. wow.

Not only is it disturbing but alot of this is preventable...

tattoobob
10-18-2009, 05:06 PM
Wow that is sad
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

ivanputski
10-18-2009, 05:52 PM
its not showing up....

Raven
10-18-2009, 06:01 PM
but when you consider that there's an island of trash out in the ocean the size Texas its not unimaginable.

i noticed many bottle tops and spice bottle tops....
thats not that hard to change how those operate and remove them from the picture

stinkyink
10-18-2009, 06:09 PM
The tragedy of plastic pollution.

tynan19
10-18-2009, 06:10 PM
Wow those were pretty moving.

striperman36
10-18-2009, 06:24 PM
It's a shame. that we are such a disposable society. These products have a limited use but a lifetime measured in 10s if not 100's of years.

UserRemoved1
10-18-2009, 06:35 PM
What I found interesting and the main reason I posted this is the amount of fishing line. I always stuff junk line in my pockets when fishing and throw it out when I get home.

But imagine something as simple as a bottle cap too. Those pics really open your eyes.

Cool Beans
10-18-2009, 07:11 PM
Only issue I have with that is, I have been to Midway twice, hiked all over the island, went snorkeling there several times, took a sail boat all over that area, and it is by far the Cleanest and most Beautiful place I've ever been. I lived in Hawaii at the time and when the ship stopped in Midway, it was like "WOW" this must be what Hawaii used to look like!. And the only inhabitants are part of the rather small navy base there. The water is so much bluer and clearer then the water in Hawaii. I think given the location, that the debris was placed on/in the skeletons. Transited through the oceans there and never saw much for trash. Those adult birds gotta by really searching far and wide to gather that much trash.

imho,
C.B.

striperman36
10-18-2009, 07:18 PM
Albatross are wanderers of the oceans

UserRemoved1
10-18-2009, 07:21 PM
nope

"These photographs of albatross chicks were made just a few weeks ago on Midway Atoll, a tiny stretch of sand and coral near the middle of the North Pacific. The nesting babies are fed bellies-full of plastic by their parents, who soar out over the vast polluted ocean collecting what looks to them like food to bring back to their young. On this diet of human trash, every year tens of thousands of albatross chicks die on Midway from starvation, toxicity, and choking.

To document this phenomenon as faithfully as possible, not a single piece of plastic in any of these photographs was moved, placed, manipulated, arranged, or altered in any way. These images depict the actual stomach contents of baby birds in one of the world's most remote marine sanctuaries, more than 2000 miles from the nearest continent.

~cj, October 2009 "

Albatross & Plastics : Ocean Issues | Monterey Bay Aquarium (http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/oceanissues/plastics_albatross/)

Kierran
10-18-2009, 07:54 PM
Very sad indeed. Thanks for posting it here.

JohnnyD
10-18-2009, 09:03 PM
Only issue I have with that is, I have been to Midway twice, hiked all over the island, went snorkeling there several times, took a sail boat all over that area, and it is by far the Cleanest and most Beautiful place I've ever been. I lived in Hawaii at the time and when the ship stopped in Midway, it was like "WOW" this must be what Hawaii used to look like!. And the only inhabitants are part of the rather small navy base there. The water is so much bluer and clearer then the water in Hawaii. I think given the location, that the debris was placed on/in the skeletons. Transited through the oceans there and never saw much for trash. Those adult birds gotta by really searching far and wide to gather that much trash.

imho,
C.B.

The consistency of ignorance you've been displaying lately is amazing. I'm sure you'll find some asinine way to try to prove it doesn't exist, but here's a link. Strangely, there's a picture of a dead albatross with plastic stomach contents. I'm sure it's just a big international conspiracy though.

Great Pacific Garbage Patch
Great Pacific Garbage Patch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch)

TheSpecialist
10-18-2009, 09:50 PM
Only issue I have with that is, I have been to Midway twice, hiked all over the island, went snorkeling there several times, took a sail boat all over that area, and it is by far the Cleanest and most Beautiful place I've ever been. I lived in Hawaii at the time and when the ship stopped in Midway, it was like "WOW" this must be what Hawaii used to look like!. And the only inhabitants are part of the rather small navy base there. The water is so much bluer and clearer then the water in Hawaii. I think given the location, that the debris was placed on/in the skeletons. Transited through the oceans there and never saw much for trash. Those adult birds gotta by really searching far and wide to gather that much trash.

imho,
C.B.

Funny I thought the same thing, it would be really easy to stage photos like that. Not saying those are, but those birds must have baked in the sun for a long time not to have any one notice..

piemma
10-19-2009, 03:18 AM
Bottle caps win, hands down.

stiff tip
10-19-2009, 04:31 AM
pigs pigs lazy slobs its all of us.......plastic byproducts

scottw
10-19-2009, 05:09 AM
current work (http://www.chrisjordan.com/current_set2.php)

you should check out the guy's website....

Cool Beans
10-19-2009, 06:27 AM
The consistency of ignorance you've been displaying lately is amazing. I'm sure you'll find some asinine way to try to prove it doesn't exist, but here's a link. Strangely, there's a picture of a dead albatross with plastic stomach contents. I'm sure it's just a big international conspiracy though.

Great Pacific Garbage Patch
Great Pacific Garbage Patch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch)

You're just an ASS!! Did I suggest conspiracy? I have been there and its very clean and has very few human inhabitants there (maybe between 100-200). And speaking of showing one's ignorance, you seem to be doing a damn fine job of it lately! And wikipedia wouldn't be the first place I'd go for proof of anything.

Raven
10-19-2009, 06:32 AM
pigs pigs lazy slobs its all of us.......plastic byproducts


you have it all wrong ...we bury most of the trash in land fills Dave
(not that there isn't slobs out there living next to the water)

but some companies were taking it out to see in bags and dumping it for years by the barge load
....and these items have floated to the top

Raven
10-19-2009, 06:33 AM
current work (http://www.chrisjordan.com/current_set2.php?id=11)

A buddy posted this on FB today. wow.

Not only is it disturbing but alot of this is preventable...


not to mention we now have biodegradable plastic

UserRemoved1
10-19-2009, 06:44 AM
HOLY COW!

current work (http://www.chrisjordan.com/current_set2.php)

you should check out the guy's website....

bassmonkey
10-19-2009, 07:23 AM
I haven't posted yet, because I am still just learning from all of you and feel I have nothing to add about catching fish, but I do know about trash in the pacific. I sailed a small boat from Hawaii to California (17 days) and witnessed first hand how much trash is floating in the middle of the Pacific. It was incredibly disturbing.

Raven
10-19-2009, 07:45 AM
Welcome to S-B mate ! :wave:

spence
10-19-2009, 08:12 AM
I haven't posted yet, because I am still just learning from all of you and feel I have nothing to add about catching fish, but I do know about trash in the pacific. I sailed a small boat from Hawaii to California (17 days) and witnessed first hand how much trash is floating in the middle of the Pacific. It was incredibly disturbing.

Great Pacific Garbage Patch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch)

-spence

JohnnyD
10-19-2009, 09:03 AM
You're just an ASS!! Did I suggest conspiracy? I have been there and its very clean and has very few human inhabitants there (maybe between 100-200). And speaking of showing one's ignorance, you seem to be doing a damn fine job of it lately! And wikipedia wouldn't be the first place I'd go for proof of anything.

Did you suggest conspiracy?
I think given the location, that the debris was placed on/in the skeletons.
Since there have been multiple international studies and reports on the issue, it seems like you did just that.

Wikipedia doesn't do it for you...
how about the necropsy of a dead albatross?
YouTube - Albatross Necropsy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FinDNPopXQY)
Educational paper:
Causes of mortality of albatross chicks at Midway Atoll -- Sileo et al. 26 (3): 329 -- Journal of Wildlife Diseases (http://www.jwildlifedis.org/cgi/content/abstract/26/3/329)

You live with your head in the sand.

Adam_777
10-19-2009, 09:17 AM
After looking at his current work it almost seems like he is Anti-American due to his many depictions of things Americans do.This stuff is interesting and is a real global problem not only United States.When I was younger it was not a big deal for the trash to go out the windows of peoples cars.Compare that to present time I think we have made a step in the right direction and it keeps evolving with new products that don't have such a heavy impact on our enviroment.We are trying to change but it takes time.I'm afraid what we've done in the past hasn't started to come back to haunt us yet.

JoeBass
10-19-2009, 09:29 AM
Amazing and so sad.

JohnnyD
10-19-2009, 09:29 AM
After looking at his current work it almost seems like he is Anti-American due to his many depictions of things Americans do.This stuff is interesting and is a real global problem not only United States.When I was younger it was not a big deal for the trash to go out the windows of peoples cars.Compare that to present time I think we have made a step in the right direction and it keeps evolving with new products that don't have such a heavy impact on our enviroment.We are trying to change but it takes time.I'm afraid what we've done in the past hasn't started to come back to haunt us yet.

I agree. People seem to be starting to realized that at some point, all that trash will have a lasting effect. Just take a look around at any of the places we fish. The banks of the canal are filthy. Styrofoam cups, beer cans, lure packaging, fishing line, clothes, etc can be found all over the place. How many times have we heard about fishing access being closed down because the neighborhood residents were sick of all the trash? Out of the people on these boards that smoke cigarettes, who doesn't think twice to toss their butts out the window or on the ground? Next time you're waiting at a stop light, look down on the ground next to you.

Fortunately, some areas of industry seem to be trying to take steps in the right direction. I've seen biodegradable plastic shopping bags and food wrappers showing a bit more prevalence. Consumer programs for recycling are increasing, with the help of many towns requiring residents to recycle.

scottw
10-19-2009, 09:40 AM
Marine Debris Program - Funding Opportunities (http://marinedebris.noaa.gov/info/patch.html)

The Dad Fisherman
10-19-2009, 10:58 AM
After looking at his current work it almost seems like he is Anti-American due to his many depictions of things Americans do.



Nope...Just a
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2302/3527747188_73474842a4.jpg

RoyL
10-19-2009, 12:59 PM
Sad...but it reminds me of Voodoo....

MakoMike
10-19-2009, 01:37 PM
Given Midway's location and the fact that it has been illegal to dump plastic from U.S. ships for over 20 years, I'd venture that 99.9% of that stuff is from non-U.S. sources.

RIROCKHOUND
10-19-2009, 01:44 PM
Given Midway's location and the fact that it has been illegal to dump plastic from U.S. ships for over 20 years, I'd venture that 99.9% of that stuff is from non-U.S. sources.

YOU LIE!!
The artist is an anti-American commmie!

Karl F
10-19-2009, 01:52 PM
Albatross are wanderers of the oceans

Gannet on a stick...

YouTube - Monty Python - Albatross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U)

WoodyCT
10-19-2009, 01:57 PM
Not just tossed from boats, but terrestrial sources also.

All that crap thrown into seaside city streets washes down storm drains or into runoff that goes straight into the ocean. And the currents distribute it all over the globe.

It all ads up, whether you can see the results of your selfish, careless or accidental littering or not.

Don't treat the sea like your own personal $hit hole- Don't treat the land like your own personal $hite hole.

Earth isn't a 1 time use product.

JohnnyD
10-19-2009, 02:06 PM
Not just tossed from boats, but terrestrial sources also.

All that crap thrown into seaside city streets washes down storm drains or into runoff that goes straight into the ocean. And the currents distribute it all over the globe.

It all ads up, whether you can see the results of your selfish, careless or accidental littering or not.

Don't treat the sea like your own personal $hit hole- Don't treat the land like your own personal $hite hole.

Earth isn't a 1 time use product.

Absolutely. In one of the articles I read, they estimated that only 20% of the garbage in the ocean actually comes from vessels.

UserRemoved1
10-19-2009, 02:18 PM
Couldn't have said it better Woody.

Not just tossed from boats, but terrestrial sources also.

All that crap thrown into seaside city streets washes down storm drains or into runoff that goes straight into the ocean. And the currents distribute it all over the globe.

It all ads up, whether you can see the results of your selfish, careless or accidental littering or not.

Don't treat the sea like your own personal $hit hole- Don't treat the land like your own personal $hite hole.

Earth isn't a 1 time use product.

smac
10-19-2009, 06:30 PM
How long does it take before Cigarette butts break down?

smac
10-19-2009, 06:34 PM
found it. Approx 5 years, not sure if that is in water or land though.

doc
10-20-2009, 08:29 AM
that IS disturbing...

Kierran
10-20-2009, 11:26 AM
Given Midway's location and the fact that it has been illegal to dump plastic from U.S. ships for over 20 years, I'd venture that 99.9% of that stuff is from non-U.S. sources.

I wish that were true, but sadly it's not. Woody hit the nail on the head. Much of this stuff mixes with stormwater and finds its way into storm drains, then into rivers, and eventually into the Oceans. Did you see all the cigarrette lighters, bottle caps, etc.? That is litter from land-based human activities, and a good amount of it is coming from the US of A. We need to change people's attitudes and behaviors if we want to make any dent in the severe marine debris problem.

ripitsik
10-20-2009, 02:42 PM
on a smaller note, it would be nice just see the jacka**es that fish the canal pick up their dd cups, cig. butts, beer cans, bait bags, and 1000000000000000 yards of line that snaps off their reels!:confused::confused:

JohnnyD
10-20-2009, 02:56 PM
on a smaller note, it would be nice just see the jacka**es that fish the canal pick up their dd cups, cig. butts, beer cans, bait bags, and 1000000000000000 yards of line that snaps off their reels!:confused::confused:
:agree:

You left out the packaging for soft-body swimmers.

stcroixman
10-21-2009, 06:39 AM
Great Pacific Garbage Patch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch)

-spence

Very Interesting link. I was not aware of this. I am one who alway spicks up trash at beaches, ponds. lake sand jetties when fishing.

Unfortuantely, there is always more trash the next time. I don't get what people think when they discard trash like that.