Question referance Surf reels: I will use the VS 250 -- VS250B models as a referance. I understand the baitcasting feature of the B model (I think). I have a lets say less expensive reel with the bait casting feature as well as one without. All things being equal in a given model reel, bait casting or non bait casting is there a diffrence in its performance? Or is the baitcasting feature just like an extra option I have not noticed a diffrence but my reels are two diffrent makes and models. This is probably a guestion I should be embarest to ask but but if you spell like me you learn to have know pride!

I think you may be mistaking bait runner/freespool feature which allows you to engage the reel from free spool to drag applied with just a flip of the switch/lever (Van Staal reels do not have this feature). The b following the number is Van Staal's way to identify the color S-silver, G-gold, B-black. This applies to spinning reels. Bait casting reels are conventional try an image search for penn squidder if you are unsure of what I mean by conventional.
Don't feel embarassed we all had to learn from someone, the only stupid question is one not asked.

On the VS reels, the VS250B in particular, the B stands for Black, as in reel color. The gold model would be VS250G. The bailed Van Staals would be VSB250B or VSB250G and so on. I think you are asking about level wind and non-level wind conventional reels?

WTF:confused::confused::confused::confused::confus ed::confused: ok ok ok I throw convench.. Thats a "baitcast" you sound like your talking about a shimano BAIT RUNNER or penn live liner here which are BAIT FRIENDLY SPINING REELS... To the best of my knowledge VS does NOT make a conventional.... only spin reels...

WTF:confused::confused::confused::confused::confus ed::confused: ok ok ok I throw convench.. Thats a "baitcast" you sound like your talking about a shimano BAIT RUNNER or penn live liner here which are BAIT FRIENDLY SPINING REELS... To the best of my knowledge VS does NOT make a conventional.... only spin reels...
Take it easy who are you addressing ?

I understand on bait casting reel I should have given more thought to my guestion.Thanks. One of my Spinning reels has has a dial at rear of reel if I engage this feature with a flip of a lever reel will "freespool" out to degree that I set its "drag" (as opposed to "regular drag" on front of reel that is normaly used when bail is locked in what I consider "normal" spinning mode.) I do not intend to take to much of your time and will consult tackle guy but I think you have got me back on track all ready. (I have used this "freespool method" if I am correct in calling it that when bait casting and letting bait sit as opposed to cast and retrive of popers and such). Thanks all.

Bait runner on shimano that is the feature I have and was confusing the heck out of everyone with. And mis took the B for black as a feature. Inall fairness to me, Daa, theVan staal ad I was looking at Only had VS250, 250B, not a G or S for silver or what ever. I am gonna reead not write and give you guys a break for a while! Thanks again (knuckle head me)

I always thought the "B" stood for BAIL

VSB250 has a bail...VS250B is Black

Take it easy who are you addressing ?

Not ment in any bad way.... Was confused thats all.. Again didnt mean any of that in a bad way

Not ment in any bad way.... Was confused thats all.. Again didnt mean any of that in a bad way

Not a problem islander. I think it's just my age and after thinking about it I fiqured I had to be taking it the wrong way. It also looked like texting and that is something I loath; once again it's probably my age. My folks used to hate my rock'n'roll music because they listened to country and talk radio, both of which I vowed I would never like. Time has proven me wrong; because now I enjoy both...go figure. I am glad you thought enough of me to make sure I wasn't offended, for that I say THANK YOU! It's all good:)
Ed

Not a problem islander. I think it's just my age and after thinking about it I fiqured I had to be taking it the wrong way. It also looked like texting and that is something I loath; once again it's probably my age. My folks used to hate my rock'n'roll music because they listened to country and talk radio, both of which I vowed I would never like. Time has proven me wrong; because now I enjoy both...go figure. I am glad you thought enough of me to make sure I wasn't offended, for that I say THANK YOU! It's all good:)
Ed


Ed no problem I hear ya on the country and talk radio thing as well.. And im 32 :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

Some reels used to have a "fighting drag". That involved a dial on the rear of the reel and a lever. The lever was free spool. The dial could be set to the desired drag level and then a marker was rotated into place by pushing it in and turning the marker. If you didn't push the marker in , it traveled with the drag knob.

So you set the drag where you wanted it to fight a fish. Then you moved the marker to 12 oclock for that drag setting. then instead of total free spool (using the lever) you could back the drag knob way off for a sort of strile or bait runner drag. Once the fish took the offereing , you could instantly tighten the drag so the marker was again at 12 oclock, This enable a very rapid return to the fish fighting setting and the loose drag but not free spool while the bait was out.

A fighting drag it was called