What is the length of the 30 pound Boga and is it shorter than the 60 pound Boga or are they the same length??

30 10.75" 1lb
60 15" 1.5lb
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Wow, i knew the 60 was a bit heavier but i didnt think it was that long. Im having second thoughts about getting the big one.

I need one for the yak......think the 30 will be plenty! Mostly for controlling fish! Thanks guys!

had a 60#- sold it because it was too long and heavy....

I was thinking of using a machete on those pesky bluefish in the kayak.
Not much fun when they are flopping around inside and all I'm wearing is my grape smugglers.

Grape smugglers? Might have to rethink that" lets get together and fish" thing!!!!!:hidin:

I love learning new words or phrases, "grape smugglers", very good.

Here is another for ya Frank! "Banana Hammock"!:rotf2:

get the 60. then again - with the fish you catch the 15 will do.

"grape smugglers"

Likely a spelling error: grape snugglers or snuggies?

Save your money and get a 50 pound rapala scale.Boga makes a great product that I think are IGFA eligable. For the sole purpose of controlling a fish yakside the 50 is perfect and the scale is pretty accurate.I sold my 30 boga last year because I really don't care what a fish under 30 weighs,if a fish bottoms out a 50;picture time.If the choice is limited to boga,60.

other then talking about what holds your boys in place lol. What type of maintance does the boga grip need after a night in the surf? Do they rust/corrode easily?

WD 40 every so often

Get yourself the Cabelas brand boga... Im on my 3rd season with it.
50# scale, VERY accurate... *Very strong springs... once a fish is lipped, its is NOT slipping off while thrashing around. * Lightweight * VERY corroision resistant... I wear it clipped to my belt ALWAYS... that means its underwater for hours at a time... looks and works like the day I bought it... and for under 30$ you cant beat it... and should you happen to lose it, youre only out 28 bucks... 24 when its on sale. I'll try to find a link. (*not listed on their site.. I'll take a pic of mine... also... STAY AWAY from the berkely lippers... the spring is so weak even a 5 pound blue slips right out... RAPALA also suck due to the way the lipper opens... very narrow gap....)

Likely a spelling error: grape snugglers or snuggies?

Ok we can get carried away, I have a feeling this is going to turn bad.:biglaugh:
According to the urban dictionary.
Grape Smugglers, very small speedo trunks which hug the bollocks of the male wearer in a manner which makes it seem that they are "smuggling grapes " between their legs.
Often seen on European, particularly French, males.

Ok we can get carried away, I have a feeling this is going to turn bad.:biglaugh:
According to the urban dictionary.
Grape Smugglers, very small speedo trunks which hug the bollocks of the male wearer in a manner which makes it seem that they are "smuggling grapes " between their legs.
Often seen on European, particularly French, males.

:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

My brother Tom, asking me " Now what do I do ? "

My brother Tom, asking me " Now what do I do ? "

Paddle slower?

Paddle slower?

Agreed.
He is thrilled to catch any fish.
I suppose that is all that matters.
He does get a few bass his way though.

Here is another option a few guys on SOL where advocating as "better" than a boga. Not sure if they are still available (?RISSA). Made out of nylon and SS...appear solidly constructed. Much lighter and longer than a boga. The one without a scale is 9oz,
the one with a 55lb scale is 15oz. They have a larger grab than a boga, but are manually activated and don't snatch as quickly as a boga. I have not tried them yet.

I am looking for quality so price does not bother me...Boga is $120 so no big deal......what I am most looking for is something that is not too long and the Boga 30 pound might be just what I am looking for! Thanks for all the help!

Bob.....ummmm....your not gonna wear grape smugglers when we fish together are ya?:err:

I am looking for quality so price does not bother me...Boga is $120 so no big deal......what I am most looking for is something that is not too long and the Boga 30 pound might be just what I am looking for! Thanks for all the help!

Bob.....ummmm....your not gonna wear grape smugglers when we fish together are ya?:err:

Doesn't everyone ?:eek:
wanna know what Mike wears when he thinks no one is watching ?

I guess? Long as you are not wearing your fishnet shorts I have heard about......and you keep your yak in front of mine about 20 feet?:rotf2:

I guess? Long as you are not wearing your fishnet shorts I have heard about......and you keep your yak in front of mine about 20 feet?:rotf2:

Seriously I thought about wearing a cup.
As I have reached for blues, a few have jumped in landing right between the lads. Hooks and teeth so close to making me an opera star.

I just don't want you trying to slip me YOUR boga grip......if'n ya know what I mean! :scratch:

I just don't want you trying to slip me YOUR boga grip......if'n ya know what I mean! :scratch:

Now your scaring me.:err:

You had me scared at "grape smugglers"!!:eek:

No, my usual attire is classic Hawaiian surf shorts.
Aka 2na style

They have a larger grab than a boga, but are manually activated and don't snatch as quickly as a boga. I have not tried them yet.

For sea robins, I recommend the zebco de-liar. A Boga or the like won't fit in their mouth.

Back Beach what kind of shorts do you wear with those?

For sea robins, I recommend the zebco de-liar. .

Naturally. Wouldn't dream of wetsuiting without one.

Naturally. Wouldn't dream of wetsuiting without one.

Never thought I see one of those again. Used to have the same one. Nice plug collection!

George nice scale! Is that the 6 oz. model or the full 1 pound model??:rotf2: I want one! I also want to see more pics of your shop!!!:drool:

Larry,
I use a 30 and it works great for me. I thought about a 60 but it looked like something fot off shore fishing.

I have a 30# boga Larry which I bought for freshwater and use it in the salt as well. It is great for controlling fish, but I rarely use it for that. As far as a well made product I still have the one I bought when they first came out and it still looks and functions the same. You could swim with it every day in the salt and never wash it and it wont rust, but it does need to be lubed so that the jaws work properly. Go for the 30.........the 60 is just way to expensive I think, but I still go back and forth about getting one every year.

I use a 30lb on the yak. It's just a more comfortable size to use than the 60lb.
If you just want to control fish at boatside, get one of these. They work great, they're cheap, and they float.

KayakFishingStuff.com: Fish Grip (http://www.kayakfishingstuff.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=KFS&Product_Code=Dupm-FishGrip&Category_Code=tools)

If you do use a Boga, get one of these for the lanyard.

KayakFishingStuff.com: Anchor Float (http://www.kayakfishingstuff.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=KFS&Product_Code=EB-SmFloat&Category_Code=misc)

That isn't a lure collection in the back ground....that is my fishing rotation. This is a "lure collection"....or a part of it. Lots of beaters. For fun, see what you can identify.

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/Quissett/shop1.jpg
http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/Quissett/shop2.jpg
http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/Quissett/shop3.jpg
http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/Quissett/shop4.jpg
http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/Quissett/shop5.jpg
http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/Quissett/shop8.jpg
http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/Quissett/shop7.jpg
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Pretty cool George! I am going bug eyed looking at them all! Thanks for the tour!:drool:

Here are several other things that jog the memory.

The wooden rulers used to come with a FW license
The trebles were stainless steel........87 cents for a box!

nice bass aqua's and the mack darter too

I see a Wiglet, lots of Creek Chubs, a Troublemaker Surfster, lots of Gibbs poppers, darters, pencils, Atoms, some Beachmasters.........alot of cool stuff!

[QUOTE=numbskull;726555]That isn't a lure collection in the back ground....that is my fishing rotation. This is a "lure collection"....or a part of it. Lots of beaters. For fun, see what you can identify.

/QUOTE]

George,
Are those Arbogast Dashers with the propellars? Years ago when needles were hard to come by I would reverse those to make a needle. Took off the props and added a little lead. They worked.

DZ

Yup. 2 are wood dashers, the green one is plastic. Keep planning to make one to try for bass on a full moon. Fished them a lot (primarily for bluefish) as a kid.

Here is most of the stuff I actively fish.

more. These days I try to stick with the stuff I build and the stuff given me.....just because it adds a little something to each fish I catch (to make up for the size deficency plugs entail). Lots of great commercial wood and plastic stuff out there that works as well or better.

One more......get the pikies their due

RAPALA JTD NEEDLES!!!!
Looks like Santa's elves have been busy.

Back Beach what kind of shorts do you wear with those?

I don't get it?

More to the point, how the hell did we go from a boga thread to looking at Numbskull's antique collection?

Love the 60 but it is big and I only carry it on trips that I don't need to worry about carrying to much or times when I'm pretty certain I'm going to go large. I see no use for the 60 in a yak.

One more......get the pikies their due

the 3rd pink one on the left looks like something from a bad porn movie:humpty:

Numbskulls collection deserves its own thread!

maybe he had a few pops after his turkey sandwich and decided to start showing us his awesome collection....

the 3rd pink one on the left looks like something from a bad porn movie:humpty:

That's a Brockton one-eyed canal snake.........built by the master himself, Tagger. I have fished it.

As for showing off, lots of guys have much more and much higher quality. More a case of pulling out the de-liar, getting nostalgic, and deciding to liven things up. It's meant to be more about plugs than about me. Also motivation for me (and hopefully others) to start building some more.

That's a Brockton one-eyed canal snake.........built by the master himself, Tagger. I have fished it.

I actually have one of those :laugha:

errr, ahem, this is still a hijack, plain and simple...

Yeah but its my thread and it is authorized by me! Speaking of "building more" I heard there was a "mini plug quilloquium" in a south shore town yesterday! Some folks are gearing up!!:uhuh:

what a thread! bogas, grape smugglers, plugs....

I am BigFish......and I authorized this thread!:rotf2:

I have a 60 and its 5 or 6 years old now. I never wash it off or take care of it. I test it a few times a year for accuracy and its always dead on. Carry it on a zinger on your belt and clip the gripper part on a caribiner so it crosses your back. One of the best pieces of gear you can buy. All I carry on my belt is a knife, pliers and boga, the weight never bothered me. Get the 60 boga so you can release those 40#ers!

"More a case of pulling out the de-liar, getting nostalgic, and deciding to liven things up. It's meant to be more about plugs than about me. Also motivation for me (and hopefully others) to start building some more."

Numbskull... are those Masterlure eelie repros made by you. I made one last year but did not get a chance to fish it yet. What has been your experience fishing the ML eelie design?

The medium version (soft maple) is a dead on copy and fishes very well....particularly by day from the boat. It tends to run sub-surface and suspend. The larger version is a freelance plug made of AYC (somewhere there is a thread that shows how I weighted it...it stays on top) and it has become a midsummer "go-to" plug when I'm fishing quiet water. Plenty of nights it outfishes whatever else I'm carrying. They cast much better than you would think.

Big Fish, Afterhours, and Tatoo also make sweet jointed eels. I've found it more beneficial to carry a jointed eel instead of an "extra" danny or needle (I always carry at least one danny/donny and several needles) whenever conditions are right.

The plug I've not done well with (none are hanging but I've got several) is the BM/Pichney jointed eely. Not sure why, they look great, but I think the thinness of the masterlure and the slower wag make it better for how I fish.

Carry it on a zinger on your belt and clip the gripper part on a caribiner so it crosses your back. One of the best pieces of gear you can buy. All I carry on my belt is a knife, pliers and boga, the weight never bothered me. Get the 60 boga so you can release those 40#ers!

R, can you explain a bit more how you carry the boga. What supports the handle end across your back. Is the zinger enough? What style zinger? Is your plug bag also attached to your belt? The reason I avoided a 60 or even 30 boga was that I couldn't bear to have it banging around on long walks over irregular terrain.

can you explain a bit more how you carry the boga. What supports the handle end across your back. Is the zinger enough? What style zinger?
Boga mounts on the retractor on the right side of your belt, jaws clip to carabiner on left side. The boga lays right across your lower back tight to the belt and out of the way. No bag on the belt in this set up. Make sure you get a high force retractor to keep the boga tight. It is strong enough to boga a fish and let go. The tensiton of the retractor keeps the jaws locked but is not too much to be a strain to extend. The one in this link mounts on your belt, but you can also get ones to clip to your belt if you do not want such a permanent mount.

Cetacea Corporation - Scuba :: Retractors :: Retractor (http://www.cetaceacorp.com/retractor-p528.html)

Another option.

Boga Grip (http://www.gearkeeper.com/flyfish/bogagrip.html)

I thought we were talking about Bogas and their use on kayaks. :scratch:
I just use this to clip the jaws to;

KayakFishingStuff.com: Stainless Steel Deck Loop (http://www.kayakfishingstuff.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=KFS&Product_Code=SSDeckLoops&Category_Code=kr)

And one of these for the handle end;

KayakFishingStuff.com: Rubber Paddle Clip (1) (http://www.kayakfishingstuff.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=KFS&Product_Code=Karr-rpc&Category_Code=pacc)

This thread is covering it all!! I love it!:uhuh:

This thread is covering it all!! I love it!:uhuh:


Yep, learned some things I want to know (and a few I don't - grape smugglers :rotf2: )

Exactly what Toby said - thanks Toby!

I've had the same retractor for 5 years now, it stopped working about halfway through this season. Time for something new...

Yep, learned some things I want to know (and a few I don't - grape smugglers :rotf2: )

I'm just here to help anyway I can :)

Here is a close up of that wooden ruler nobody but me thought was cool. Check out the bag limits. Remember when waiting for that third Sat in april was more exciting than Christmas?

It is cool in a slide rule in the computer age sorta-kinda way. Problem is that much like engineers should need to learn the slide rule before the easy 'puter, we need to have more people understanding and adhering to the regulations before they go fishing (OK. a little bumpy but work with me here).

Lip gripper/scale is at the top of my list for new equipment for next season. I'll be using it on the kayak and in the surf.
Lots of good input here.
Think I might go with the 30lb. Boga.
Expensive but from the reviews I've read it might be worth the extra money
I've got a digital scale in the pack for anything bigger than 30lbs..

It is cool in a slide rule in the computer age sorta-kinda way....



Ouch...personal foul...:no2:

God's gonna punish you for making fun of old people, John

He's gonna turn you into one...:hihi:

Lip gripper/scale is at the top of my list for new equipment for next season. I'll be using it on the kayak and in the surf.
Lots of good input here.
Think I might go with the 30lb. Boga.
Expensive but from the reviews I've read it might be worth the extra money
I've got a digital scale in the pack for anything bigger than 30lbs..

me too. getting a hook through the hand is my worst fear, id rather get slammed by a rouge wave then have a nice vmc in the hand. i think it will also help me land fish faster/easier since i alway hesitate the second i see those trebles. the 60 would be nice to have but it is very long and $130 more. i will probably just hang it off my belt on a d-ring. hopefully santa will get me one :uhuh:

Finally got around to taking a picture of how my 60# Boga mounts on my belt.

thats a pretty sweet idea when you get to your spot you just let it hang? or do you just unclip it whenever u need it? my parents got me the 30# i will probably just carry it on a d-ring with a lanyard. that setup would be sweet for long walks or if ur swimming

thats a pretty sweet idea when you get to your spot you just let it hang? or do you just unclip it whenever u need it? my parents got me the 30# i will probably just carry it on a d-ring with a lanyard. that setup would be sweet for long walks or if ur swimming

Sometimes when I am into fish, I let it hang free. Most of the the time I keep it clipped to the belt to keep it out of the way though. Lost a good fish at my feet last year because the butt of my rod got stuck in the telephone cord I had on the boga and I was unable to untangle things in time. My old retractor was out of comission last season after many years of faithful service. Got the shiny new one in the picture for Christmas. :uhuh:

If I am moving between spots, the jaws clip on the belt to avoid it thumping around as I go. One REALLY nice aspect of having it on the lanyard is you can actually let go of your fish after it is unhooked and the strength of the retractor keeps sufficient tension on the Boga jaws to keep ahold of the fish. This alows you the freedom to tend to your rod, lure, etc... before you take steps to release the fish. It is nice when swimming to a spot not to have it "phantom bump" your legs. Scared myself a few times last season using the old telephone cord set up.

Such a nice set up... i have experienced similar tangles with the telephone cord type leash...