fcap60
12-21-2009, 01:43 PM
a hunter friend just gave me 3 bucktails. Forunately, he had them in the freezer for a while, but I plan to wash them throughly with soap and ammonia,then let them sit in the gargage to dry for a while for a while. There's a bit of flesh remaining and there's still the bone through the tail. I wasn't sure whether I should try to remove the bone now, or let it sit for a while after drying
I would appreciate any suggestions for removing it.:wall:
thanks and happy holidays
Swimmer
12-21-2009, 02:06 PM
The bone is easily removed. Obviously brown side down, stick a small but sharp implement at the base where the tail was jointed. Run the sharp implement up the ligament in the tail to its end and there you have it. Pull out the ligament and spread open what you just cut. Take the same sharp implement and scrape all the fatty tissue away. Then pour salt on it and place some flat on top and let it dry.
Goose
12-21-2009, 03:26 PM
What swimmer said. Before that I wash under warm water to get all the dirt and blood off.
ThrowingTimber
12-21-2009, 05:44 PM
Frank,
Below is a post I had saved that ATG made:
Hello all.
I got a call from a friend the other day and asked me how to clean and dress out bucktails. He was actually interested in other tails, but I suspect highly that the below procedure will work well on most tails.
The number one thing to remember is to take your time and do it right. If you have ever gone into a fly tying shop and seen bucktails where the hide has curled over on itself, that is simply laziness and sloppiness on the preparer's part. Until this past winter, when I did about 100 BT, I never new that, but can now attest that I can do a better job than can BT suppliers and so can you.
As an aside, the book Dyeing and Bleaching by A.K. Best is a fantastic resource. It covers much more than degreasing and dying bucktails and is well worth the money.
Here we go:
What you will need:
Wisk Laundry Detergent - red bottle
Ivory Liquid soap
Borax
RIT White-Wash
Piping hot water
1 5 gal. bucket
1 milk crate or huge collendar
1 wicked shahp knife
1 pair utility shears
1 large comb
1 hair brush
3/4" plywood
1 fan
tons of bloody, greezy, snotty, muddy BT
1. Debone the BT. Take the knife and insert under the hide at the base of the tail and make a continuous cut exposing the bone underneath. You will now know why you need a "wicked shahp knife." Peel back the hide and remove the tail bone. I like to have two people if you are going to be doing a ton of them. 1 person debones and the other preps for degreasing.
2. Prep for degreasing. Take the deboned BT and scrape off the residual fat and trim away any and all that you can at this point. Fat is what makes that rancid smell later in the year and endears your to your betrothed. I also like to use a knife or utility shears to trim the base of the tail and eliminate the parts of the BT that I won't be using. Now it your time to get a nice, clean BT shape. Take your time.
3. Take the 5 gal. pail and fill 2/3 with piping hot water. Add in 1 packet of RIT White Wash, 1/2 cup or so of Ivory liquid dish washing sop and 1/4 a cup of Wisk Liquid Laundry Detergent. Put in upto 12 BT per pail and swish around thoroughly. When you think your done, swish some more.
4. Let it soak for three (3) days. Yes that is correct three (3) days. Stir occasionally. I do mine in my basement garage and give it a swish with a smashed hockey stick every time I come in or go out of the garage. DO NOT POUND the BT. The longer they soak, the more supple and tear able the BT becomes. Swishing in a circular motion seems to work very well.
5. After three (3) days, take and train the whole bucket into a sink into a milk crate or VERY large colander. Keep luke warm water running and rinse off each individual tail. By this time, all the blood clots, mud spots and other nasties should be sufficiently loosened or gone completely. Play the BT back and forth in your hand, removing all the degreasing solution. Again, be very gentle during this phase. The BT can tear easily.
6. As you rinse out the BT, squeeze out as much of the water as possible. DO NOT WRING THE BT - it will disnetgrate. Then place each BT in between 2-4 sheets of papertowels.
7. Now bring the BT to that sheet of plywood. Lay them out nicely and neatly. How they look now, is how they will dry and harden. Take some pride and time in laying them out. I usually lay them out with the hide facing up. Make sure they are all lined up nicely and there are no wrinkles or folds in the hide. Take a second sheet of plywood and place it gently over the BT making a nice plywood - BT - plywood sandwich. I like to clamp the sides and put bricks scattered randomly on the top. Point the fan to go between the plywood sheets and leave them like that for one (1) day. Do not let them get moldy. The purpose of this step is to simple yield your nice, straight, clean BT. All you are doing it shaping the final hide imprint.
8. After one (1) day, remove the clamps and plywood. Be gentle as some of the BT will stick to the top sheet of plywood as it is removed. While the BT is still fragile, it is beginning to toughen up.
9. Flip over all the BT with the hair side up. Use the brush and comb to stylize all the hair. If you want straight BT, this is how you do it. Be sure to follow the natural flow of the BT hide.
10. Carefully, not ruining your nice Paul Mitchell-like styling job, flip the BT over again with the hide side up. Liberally encrust the hide with the Borax. When in doubt, use more. The borax draws out the moisture and serves to cure the hide. I now put that second plywood sheet pack on, clamps back on and bricks back on and leave for 2-3 days with the fan blowing on it.
11. After about two or three days, take the clamps, bricks and plywood off. You will now see what I mean by nice, clean straight BT.
12. Now flip over the BT with the hair side up and let the fan dry that side for 3-4 days or better yet, a week. I know it seems long, but if you short cut this phase, when you put your BT away and then take them out to tie, they will be all moldy and rancid and you will have to start all over again.
13. After a week of fanning the fur side, flip the BT over again and re apply borax liberally. Use new Borax as the stuff on the plywood has a high moisture content weather you can feel it or not. Now put the fan on the BT and dry this side, with the Borax for 1 week. If you have done everything correctly, you are now done. You should have nice, clean, degreased, flat and straight BT with amazing fur to tie up flies, cod flies, jigs or anything you desire.
One small note, If you never use the brown center of the BT, you can trim it out with a new razor blade. Flip the BT hide side up and trace the dark hide from the light hide. This will cut away the left, center and right parts of the BT leaving you with nice clean, straight white BT to tie.
I hope this helps.
that A.K. Best book is really worth its weight in gold.
One last thing, in the procurement of snotty, bloody, muddy BT, keep them frozen until you are ready to debone and degrease. If you have to wait sometime between these two sets, throw them back in the freeze. Make sure to either have a separate bait freezer or label them well - otherwise your wife will get with my wife and confirm their suspicions about the two of us. - Did that make sense? http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/images/smilies/kooky.gif
Swimmer
12-21-2009, 09:47 PM
I have that book. Thaks for posting this more finite/complete way of cleaning the tail.
fcap60
12-26-2009, 10:23 AM
Thanks-great stuff
Happy holidays
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