We all know boaters rule because we catch the cows and we just look good behind the wheel. What say you, night dwelling, sandy, wet, surfcreatures?:laughs:

Like bringing a knife to a gunfight! Who are the best boaters? The ones that are great surfcasters of course :D ...

Sure, boating has an edge in size and frequency but successful surfcasting is truly more challenging and more rewarding in my opinion. A true case of man -v- nature & the fish and at the same time man with nature & the fish... That's my story & I'm sticking to it!

i have a boat
its not the boat of all boats but it works.
but i think the surfcaster has the bragging rights. like john said the boater has alot more options/mobility but give me a fish off the beach and you can bet i feel more pride in that fish than any fish i ever caught off a boat. i bought a boat with a fellow sb member in the middle of the last striper season with BIG hopes of landing the trophy. well that didn't happen. After we called it a season for the boat i learned of a surfcasting "hotspot" and experienced the best fishing i've ever had. so in short ill say the surfcaster owns the show and deserves the right of way
bucktails were here before boats

I don't know who rules but everyone knows that surfcasters make better lovers! :)

...they use longer rods....:eek:


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Most of my early big fish came from the surf, in fact both 40's in my office came off Pegotty Beach in Scituate. Then there is something about being on the water, not just in it and I like them both. For me it's the fact I've been in some sort of sailboat or powerboat since I was in high school. Something flashes back, sets the same brain paths firing, when I'm on that first morning run as I push the throttle down as I clear the harbor entrance. Love the salt air in my face and the solitude which normally accompanies me those first few hours.

And of course I love all that "easy boat fishing", because we boaters are of course clueless and them cows just line up to climb aboard:).

capesams is psychic

Next Poll:

What is better, a ten dollar bill or two fives

Both have their challenges

Both are the sack

The Answer is

Fishing Rules

Boats take us to the fish, while you surf people sit and whine that they are to far out to cast. I say bo-hoo and have a nice walk back to your lonely fishless truck.. ;)

also we still have to catch the bastards once we find them.

you ain't the same guy I was whiping sinkers at...... casting towards me

depends on who is behind the wheel,Boating turned into work for Me But had great times and a few games trying the dont follow Mw stuff, I fished woods hole mostly at nigh and even in the fog. ventured Up the side of the islands and learn most the stuff to fill the boat and deal with selling the Bass.
fished MV very hard allso and fished of of monomoy and all rips near it. have not owned a boat since 98 I think
Had a Big boat rigged for tuna and could run 7 rods.
the fuel killed me but being up in the tower was cool;)
sold the JIANT HOLE and bought a grady white with 40 hrs on a merc 200. worked the piss outa that boat. use to love squibby and the south side.
lot of Guys out there didnt have it together just as on shore and pulled My share out of the rocks including a dragger.
Use to dig the bonito thing that was good....
Oh Ya Blue fish suck

Ain,t going there////
its the sport,not b orb
It doesn,t matter as long as you enjoy it/

I will say when I fish from shore I find much more savy fisherman & not tooooomany a/o compared to what I,ve seen of 45 years on the water, especially the yahoos that have 20,30, -100 g,s go buy a boat & a 6 pack and are clueless/////////////

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you ain't the same guy I was whiping sinkers at...... casting towards me

piddled myself laughing so hard!!! ...yep a whole ocean for the boaters and how many times have I been on the beach at 3:30in the morning and as soon as there is a peep of light someone in a boat flies out of no where to fish the same spot I am fishing from shore!????


but everyone knows that surfcasters make better lovers

....waders are dead sexy!!!:D ;)


surfcasters rule!!!!!!

its not an easy game ive tried it, climbing over rocks,up and down cliffs,socks soaking wet, seeing the most fish all season busting 200 yds out in front of you, and cant be reached if i had a 20ft rod, THE WHOLE TIME SAYING TO MYSELF I PUT THE BOAT AWAY TO EARLY!!!:smash:
now i give the boaters there credit high and dry, can fish numerous spots in one day without getting tired, oh and if you do get tired crawl in and take a nap, if its freezing out go inside, have your cooler right beside you,have 5 different rods all set up ready to go with different gear, listen to classic music as you go out into the sunrise,look at fish finder to tell you if there here,be able to chase them with the turn of a key, and last but not least be able to pick up surf casters that want a day on the water!! :D ps i used to be a yahoo now im just inexperienced!

You "piddled" yourself - Good God, I'm glad it wasn't anything more desperate than a "piddled" :D

Duke - the successfull surfcaster doesn't go to where you need to cast 200 yds :) - Great thread!

Clammer - there is a incredible yahoo factor built into both boating and surfcasting, unfortunately - the imbecille in the boat has the ability to cause much more damage & mayhem over a greater area than the dimwit on the beach who effects far fewer and can screw up a relatively small place.

May-Aug : Boater's Rule hands down
Sep-Nov : I would call it a draw, possibly leaning to the surf crowd

I have had better fishing from boats, I wouldn't say luck because the times I've had more fish I was with experienced fishermen who could show me the technique. I will say my time on boats have made me a better surfcaster.

I think the boat gives better mobility, there are many spots I would like to fish, but you gotta walk a couple of miles from where you park, with a boat you can make a few casts or drifts and move on.

Oh, I don't know, when the fish are there surfcasting rules.

In all honesty I have to admit this. I have caught bigger fish on the boat. But the best day of fishing I have ever had was on a stone jetty at Scarborough beach. Caught dozens of schoolies and two keepers. this was last November. As I walked away I was thinking that these fish cost me a fraction of what they would have on the boat and I felt like I earned them, all wet and sandy, waves crashing into me. Plus I took my son to Charlestown got into a bluefish blitz and had a ball. He was much more comfortable along the beachfront. However I do love the feeling of pouring on the power and screwing out the bay at 40 knots. Going as close to clammer as I can..full bore baby:laughs:
I guess they are both awesome on their own unique ways. How is that for a Clintonisque waffle session. ;)

I had to edit the naming conventions used in the descriptions of this poll in order to, uhh, even it out a bit.

The original descriptions were:

Boaters of course
Surf Creatures


:D

hey who changed the poll choices, that is moderator abuse:af: :bshake: :cheers:

Originally posted by JohnR
I had to edit the naming conventions used in the descriptions of this poll in order to, uhh, even it out a bit.

The original descriptions were:

Boaters of course
Surf Creatures


:D

John:

Where/(which) did your biggest fish come from last year?
Inquiring minds need to know!!

Good winter debate !!!!!

Last year was a little slower than I hoped for - Biggest fish I had last year was 28 pounds from the surf - not bad but not what I expected and 22.1 pounds lighter than I'd hoped for.

I had close to ten fish between 25 and 28 pounds that were surf caught. My biggest boat fish of the season landed was 22-24 pounds or so.



that is moderator abuse Well, just levelling the playing field :D

Big fish come from surf

I'd always choose to be on a boat, but its hard to top the feeling of a keeper in the dark on a 10ft rod when the waves are breaking at your feet.

Originally posted by Duke41
However I do love the feeling of pouring on the power and screwing out the bay at 40 knots. ..full bore baby

Oh yea.,....... thats what I,m talkin bout !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not to mention good access to getting live bait.
Then being able to take the bait where you want in minutes.

40 knots in a boat is nothing:p I've ridin with Got Stripers before.

You haven't lived till you ride shotgun with BM on the back trail when he is in a hurry to get to the next cut bouncing from side to side off each side of the berm, I swear he was gonna end up in a dune or roll. What speed limit?:smash: :ss: :devil2: :devil: :rocketem:

OK now we all really know whats important . Who has the best eye candy aound them when fishing . sorry boat guys binoculars make you perverts !

I own a boat and fish from the surf and the ice . so Im the best ! :D

Happy are those who know how to fish both worlds. Then comes having the time to do it. I'ld rather fish from shore 3-4 nights a week then boat once or twice during the weekend. I think most die hards surf casters would love to own a boat and still surf fish. Where the fish swim is where I wanna be;)

i am a big fan of surfcasting, but i love boatfishing just as much so it's a tuff call.....

BUT---Boats are kewler then Beach Buggyz :D:D

I think most die hards surf casters would love to own a boat and still surf fish That's Right! Best of both worlds!

I have found it very hard to walk to Cuttyhunk and then just as hard to fish the shore once there so give me my boat to fish the surf. And Goose you bought a boat so you could fish surf 3-4 times a week???????:smash: :smash: Fish the beach from the boat young man and catch ALL those easy to get big cows. You don't even need a rod just a net to scoop them up. Boat fishing the surf best of both worlds. Right CLAMMER:D :D :D :D :D

Don't forget, if the fish ain't bittin', you can always cruise around the marinas and check out the bikini's laying around on the bows of their cruisers !!!!:D :D :cool: ;)

If you gotta boat !!!!:smash:

AMen Greg
I don,t think that its often that my boat is more than a cast from shore, but I make it a point of NEVER messing up a shorefisherman even if it means leaving the fish/////////////////

Originally posted by GBOUTDOORS
And Goose you bought a boat so you could fish surf 3-4 times a week??????

There ain't noway I'm takin out the boat 2-3 times week.......workin long hours rushin home to get on the water is just asking for it(horra show). I'ld much rather grab my gear and cool off in the suds. Remember??;) Over the winter I wrapped myself 3 boat rods and three surf (three witch where rewraped)...no rods over 8' on my boat. Although I've owned a couple other boats this boat will defiantly take me to new waters. With electronics and knowlegde(things I'm yet to obtain:)) boaters can get to waters surfcasters can only dream of. I love being out there waste deep in the darkness wondering whats swimming around me....after a moment or two that gittery feeling goes away and its just me, eels and GOD.


BTW.....boating doesn't end at the ramp but two hours later.

Last season did diddly from the surf but had the best day of my life with 6 fish over 30 LBS. from the boat, but I'm still a Surf Ratt and would take one of those 30+ any day from the suds than the 6 from the boat.

GB If I still lived in falmouth I would still own a boat. them islands make Me nuts

Well Goose if you need any help with the err electronics and stuff, you just give me a call, maybe I can free up a day to ride along :).

There is just something about fishing late night...and when your done, hop'in in the jeep and heading home.....rather that calling it quits 30-40 mins. before so you can head in!

Nothing like the late night sounds of the water...bait splashing...no motors!

One in the Suds is better than ten in the Blue.

Surf = Able to fish in ANY type of condition. NO MATTER WHAT!!!

Boat = Able to fish when the weather allows it.


.....hmmmm. I'm thinking extreme here....so let's me think about this. If I was given the choice of ONLY choosing one -

A: Surf - Be able to fish whenever I want, but never from a boat

or

B: Boat - Only fishing when the weather permitted...

If I had to choose only 1........I would go with A

...thank you and have a good night :)

Bloo I think thats probably the best answer yet....

I like boat fishing but I feel like I have more room to relax and fish when I am on shore (because I am SOO graceful and its usually not until the end of the day when I finally find my sea legs...:rolleyes: :D ).....well in a way I guess I kind of consider the sand sled to be my boat!!!!:D

this older gentleman I know does a lot of freshwater fishing...always from his boat....so anyway he spots me fishing (from shore) one morning (he sometimes goes to the boat laucnch with his coffe and donut to "check things out") so he asks..."you really get anything here???" I say yeah.....next week he brings his rod on his coffee run and lands a 6.5 pound bass!!! the biggest hes ever pulled out of that place!!!!

....and from shore!!!! he cant stop telling me that story!!!:D and thats ok...because he tells it with so much enthusiasm!!!!

"uffah!!" is better because he does BOTH, ad enjoy's BOTH!!

Originally posted by bloocrab


Boat = Able to fish when the weather allows it.




there are protected waters boats can fish too......and size matters :laughs:

I agree with Goose, not many days that I can ever remember that I couldn,t get to fish in my boat,but I know there were days that the surf was out of the question//////////////

Goose is right size matters and if I find you in my spot Goose I am bigger than you and will just push you aside so I can fish the honey hole:eek: :eek: :eek: :laughs: :laughs: Now I am going out side to start the Yamaha and let her run for a few minutes just to get the feel of being out there.:smash: :smash: :smash:

Thats it....I'm getting back into weight lifting! :humpty:

Does that boat have to have a motor? I may not be able to get to the islands but I can get into some neat estuaries w/ my kayak and I can pull up on shore and surf cast. Besides I'm cheap, no gas, no reg. no taxesssss, little upkeep and all the fresh air you can handle.

there are protected waters boats can fish too
..and on those days that a boat would have to fish those protected waters....don't you think a surf-fisher could fish the UN-protected waters???

hey, don't get me wrong...I'll LoVe my boat someday too....if it ever gets wet again... :smash:

...and Clam -
not many days that I can ever remember that I couldn,t get to fish in my boat,but I know there were days that the surf was out of the question

..on the same days that the surf was out of the question....you were out on your boat? :confused: :confused: ..you must be talkin close to home -

and as far as the surf ever being out of the question.....only days I know of....are RED-TIDE days - :smash: :af: :af:

I love fishing the Surf and probably spend about 90% of the time of the surf and maybe 10% off the boat. I find that off the boat is much easier, especially if you have good electronics and are knowledgable. Not everyone that owns a boat knows what they are doing, especially those that fish entirely during the day chasing birds and running through schools of fish feeding on the surface. How about those boaters that follow the charter captains and cast into them. Most of the challenge is being able to find you're own fish. Another thing I take into consideration is, IT is much easier to land a big fish when you are reeling straight up from 8-60ft or so towards the boat. Now I am not saying that everyone that fishes the surf know what they are doing either, they dont. It is much more difficult to land a fish off the surf than it is off of a boat, without a doubt, to me it is much greater of a challenge. You have to remember that off the surf you cannot rely on good electronics that can tell you that you are on top of a school of big fish either.

Bloo//
if I fish near home on a lousy day & the fish are there
whats the point??

I should have said that the surf was unfishable too me, which means that its fishabe to others//

But the same goes for boats/ I<ll fish where & when others won,t & v/v
Bottom line to me is now I fish to enjoy it ,compared to money fishing ,which is a completely differant game///
Be it boat or shore I,m not going to fish unless its fun {for me} doesn,t mean catching fish, but fun
I,ve had great times & not caught a thing

the night at REds spot , just laying in the sand watching the stars==great==

fishing Block in the boaton a beautiful flat calm day [watching] as the female in boat next to me was topless =Great IT doesn,t matter if your having fun :happy: :happy:

To-may-toe or to-mah-toe?

Tastes great or less filling?

Wax-on, or wax-off?

Is yak a boat? :laughs:

is this the stuff you surf gurus carry aroung to get your mullets out there :D

Boaters have a much greater advantage of having the resources for catching more and bigger fish. However if you are fishing off the Surf doesn't mean you still can't catch alot of nice Bass. For 2002 I ended up with 16 Striped Bass ranging from 30lbs -39.5lbs and 94 Striped Bass ranging from 20lbs-29.5lbs. This was strictly in Rhody and Mass from June through November....I am not even counting locally when I was fishing in my neck of the woods in April and a small bit of May...I missed almost the whole month of May.

I do a fair amount of both boat and surf fishing, and I feel both have their advantage and place. During July and August when the picking off the beach is spotty at best, it's great to be able to get to the deeper water in search of cows. In this case boat fishing is FAR more enjoyable than surfcasting. However, in May and October when cows can be at your feet on the beach, surfcasting is FAR more enjoyable than the boat. Now, if you combine the two....

Also, I feel that there are two types of boat fisherman: those that cast plugs and fish pole in hand, and those that troll. Now, I'm aware of the productive value of the tube-n-worm, but that's just a boat ride to me. I would put the boat fisherman that have pole in hand on par with surf guys, but the troller is a wholly different beast.

this has gone on for a while,so i have to say something


You know who rules? neither of them.

it's all person prefferance, and what YOU like

non of them rule the ocean, the fish rule the ocean!!!!

SURFCASTERS RULE!!!:cool: :rolleyes: