Has created a commercial platform that gains from the continued sales of must have products, misinformation, flat out lies to keep its fishermen spending in their attempt achieve the successes of purported guides and mystic sharpie gurus?

Hmmm...20+ views, but no hits...:smokin:

There's a couple acting curious and eyeing the bait...

I dunno, Chris, ya might pick up a short or two....the rest are neutral to negative, I think...:rotflmao:

Chris, I think you can find that going on in about every industry, from must have George Foreman super grills to Teddy Bruschi life insurance. If so and so recommends it, it must work, right! Buyer beware so the saying goes.

Seriously, consider this.
There's what, a few hundred guys catching large consecutively every season, yet we're sold millions of lures, books, clothing, seminars, etc. Like lemings, bitches to the system, cuckolded by the industry machine that holds us down witholding the knowledge about how to catch while selling fishermen a bridge with the other hand.
REVOLT!!
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selling a bridge to no where

Seriously, consider this.
There's what, a few hundred guys catching large consecutively every season, yet we're sold millions of lures, books, clothing, seminars, etc. Like lemings, bitches to the system, cuckolded by the industry machine that holds us down witholding the knowledge about how to catch while selling fishermen a bridge with the other hand.
REVOLT!!
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no different than any other industry. Look at musical instruments, tons of magazines, videos, books, gear all with the latest and greatest way to get better, and all it really takes is time, dedication and practice. Same things to be successful in any endeavor.

You think fishing is bad, you should visit my pro shop some time...

I hope NIB isn't offended by my post...:angel:

PLAID PANTS FOREVER!!!!!!

Doesn't bother me in the least.

I go to the shows and just about all of the speakers are at least entertaining. Some are funny as hell (Al and Zeno). There not twisting your arm to buy their book or product. Gives me something to do in the winter.

Gee, Krispy, almost sounds like you are about to launch a tackle company (again :rotf2: ).

It's tough, I get people all the time saying how the fisher population is doing a disservice to themselves because they have not taken advantage of the "Fisher Widget" and I'm standing in the way of progress because I don't allow them to advertise their "Fisher Widget".

Their are different pain thresholds for different people I suppose. And I also suppose people need to find their own threshold.

Oops, another user just registered that owns a tackle company...

and all it really takes is time, dedication and practice. Same things to be successful in any endeavor.
Is it really, or are ygr brainwashed masses just perpetuating the myths we're sold. Its not time on the water, its your timing on the water!
We are told the elite are talented, but its merely tactical. Whose selling that info? No one.
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Gee, Krispy, almost sounds like you are about to launch a tackle company (again :rotf2: ).

It's tough, I get people all the time saying how the fisher population is doing a disservice to themselves because they have not taken advantage of the "Fisher Widget" and I'm standing in the way of progress because I don't allow them to advertise their "Fisher Widget".

Their are different pain thresholds for different people I suppose. And I also suppose people need to find their own threshold.

Oops, another user just registered that owns a tackle company...

I'm saying F the tackle co., screw the publishers, burn the shops, and boycott the speakers!
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mess up their scent trail and watch them walk into each other...or perhaps find the guy blowing the flute an stuff it where it's dark an deep.

I'm saying F the tackle co., screw the publishers, burn the shops, and boycott the speakers!
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Like anything else in life, pick & choose what you want and disregard the rest. Also remember that you are in a far different part of your journey than you were 10 years ago.

It's (usually) a fun ride ;)

In the grand scheme, after we die - all will be forgotten and only good things will be said.
So we've got that going for us.
Human Nature is such that people typically only hold things against each other for the rest of their lives - death is the great redeemer.

what was it that PT Barnum said..... anyway.. none of it effects me.. I march to my own drummer...they can do as they wish.

Smoke and mirrors works until the sea breeze kicks in.. Then all that you see is yourself.
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Is it really, or are ygr brainwashed masses just perpetuating the myths we're sold. Its not time on the water, its your timing on the water!
We are told the elite are talented, but its merely tactical. Whose selling that info? No one.
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but how would you know the "timing" on the water unless you spent time on the water to find that out? Its experience, you cant buy that and no one can sell it to you.

Has created a commercial platform that gains from the continued sales of must have products, misinformation, flat out lies to keep its fishermen spending in their attempt achieve the successes of purported guides and mystic sharpie gurus?


If they can catch fish, good for them. If you can't, don't blame them, blame yourself.

as a fisherman, you should know that just because the bait is presented, doesn't mean the fish HAS to bite... Be the one that got away...

:huh:

It doesn't make me angry. There is an old saying for people that will buy every new lure or fishing device:

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Krispy,
IMHO, the industry targeting striped bass isn't even totally organized as a whole. If you wanna get get your brain fried, take a few turns in the tuna gear industry..... and bring your bank, all of it!

What I know is:



I should be a lot better than I am for time spent on the water - some guys with a lot less time are better than I am. I'm just a slow learner.
I don't spend anywhere enough time on the water
See item (1).


As far as tactics go, depends on what you goal is. Is your goal to catch lots and lots of monster fish? Then your tactic is not to spend every night chunking Queen Cocahoes at Conimicut Light. Is your goal to catch big fish on plugs you've made? Slay large on eels while wetsuitng from rocks? Catching bright little fish on plastics?

Your goal may not be the same goal as Joe Angler. You tactics will be different.

Do what makes you happy and where you will extract your enjoyment and disregard the rest.

Lots of people will say they have the Must Get Widget. Some will work, some will work for others, some are just blowing smoke.

Everything got old a long time ago. I used to get really upset about articles written by so called experts that were completely off the mark. I wanted to argue with them, prove them wrong. Got sick of all the BS, catch reports, marketing the wrong gear, know it alls, egos, posers, blah blah. It used to really get to me. Learned to filter it out and refocus on why I got into fishing to begin with.


Makes me go back to my roots, freshwater fishing with my uncle at a very young age. I had no idea media existed, no marketing of gear, no competition, no idea of what a "good" fish was. I used the lures we had and eventually favored the ones that were successful. I loved the adventure, the hunt, the mystery of catching and the pain of failing. The challenge was endless.

It wasnt long before the first bass pro shops catalogs got mixed in and it went downhill from there. Other magazines were subscribed too, and it got very confusing - I got sucked into all the BS, losing touch for only a little while though. The right mentors put it all back into perspective.

I still continue to try to do my own thing and have nothing to prove. I fish because its what I live for and enjoy. I live for studying patterns, piecing together the info, trying to adapt to constant change. You can't beat the feeling of being at the ends of the earth, swimming to a rock in total darkness and catching striped bass. Catch a giant bass, weigh it, release it and don't tell a soul.

Its interesting this one post could spark that much thought for me

Rizzo - it's nice to get down to basics. You're single right. no kids? Enjoy it while you can. On the other hand, there is not much out there better than taking your kid fishing :btu: - Wait until you do that.

fishing is overrated....

So . . . . . I own about 300 lures (probably more hidden throughout the house) that I bought to fish with.
I use probably a dozen as my go to lures. I'm sensing something. . . . .
It's like women and shoes.

:huh:

I'm with you

Actually, civilization makes me angry. I mean think about it. Once upon a time you could spend 1/2 the day fishing or hunting anywhere you wanted, come home to a house with no maintenance concerns, screw whoever was handy, crap where you wanted, then kick back and take a nap until dinner, after which you could either go paint hand prints on cave walls with your hunting buddies or take your club and pick up a new date. So what if you had to put up with excessive body hair and speak Italian. Seems worth it to me. Probably I should move to Franklin.

George, you're a riot.
This consumer based fishery is based on stuff now, not fish. I started to eat, consume fish. Fishing put food on the table that would otherwise be bare. Now we fish to get stuff, Lamis, VSs, ZBs, whatever the sexy name is this season. It's one of the buttons that when pushed, makes humans dance. Like sex, gambling, shiny things... Hell, everyone knows that they'd catch more with worms, but they build and buy plugs anyway..I wanna be a caveman..

Uncle Al well said!! I'm still looking and will do so

Everything got old a long time ago. I used to get really upset about articles written by so called experts that were completely off the mark. I wanted to argue with them, prove them wrong. Got sick of all the BS, catch reports, marketing the wrong gear, know it alls, egos, posers, blah blah. It used to really get to me. Learned to filter it out and refocus on why I got into fishing to begin with.


Makes me go back to my roots, freshwater fishing with my uncle at a very young age. I had no idea media existed, no marketing of gear, no competition, no idea of what a "good" fish was. I used the lures we had and eventually favored the ones that were successful. I loved the adventure, the hunt, the mystery of catching and the pain of failing. The challenge was endless.

It wasnt long before the first bass pro shops catalogs got mixed in and it went downhill from there. Other magazines were subscribed too, and it got very confusing - I got sucked into all the BS, losing touch for only a little while though. The right mentors put it all back into perspective.

I still continue to try to do my own thing and have nothing to prove. I fish because its what I live for and enjoy. I live for studying patterns, piecing together the info, trying to adapt to constant change. You can't beat the feeling of being at the ends of the earth, swimming to a rock in total darkness and catching striped bass. Catch a giant bass, weigh it, release it and don't tell a soul.

Its interesting this one post could spark that much thought for me

Exactly Rizzo :uhuh:
And it takes half a lifetime to be a good striperman, not because of ALL the intense, indepth, super secret time on the water knowledge you have to gather together, its wading through the hip deep BS of info, experts and product sales that gets your head spinning till you dont know whats right anymore.
I bet all you really, I mean REALLY, needed to know to go out and catch large could be written on one side a sheet of paper.

I bet all you really, I mean REALLY, needed to know to go out and catch large could be written on one side a sheet of paper.

Sounds like the book Iron Mike has been threatening to write the past few years.

It's 200 pages long. 199 are blank and on the last page there's a picture of an eel.

Sounds like the book Iron Mike has been threatening to write the past few years.

It's 200 pages long. 199 are blank and on the last page there's a picture of an eel.

Nice :) Makes my book sound long winded.

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Topographic structure + underwater structure + current + darkness + black lure/eel of choice X 4-5 nights a month = sometimes big fish
The end.

Nice :) Makes my book sound long winded.

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Topographic structure + underwater structure + current + darkness + black lure/eel of choice X 4-5 nights a month = sometimes big fish
The end.



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Grenade+net= catch. PERIOD. Too many "+'s " in your equation. K.I.S.S. (my right arse cheek....its the lucky one)

I love how many here are lost in yester-year and they dont even know what they have in front of them.....
- Give me pogies or give me eels
- Timing tide / wind
- Bite windows can last 15 minutes, .5hours, an hour, 1/4 tide, half tide, whole tide, multiple tides, slack tides, running tides
- The fish are always with or near the bait, those big bodies of fish, those that many dream of, are with sustainable bait supply
- Always go to the fish, the fish dont come to you.. Just because they were there last year, and the year before, doesnt mean they will be there now.
- Stay AWAY from the Crowds! All my biggest hits were done with not a soul in sight!
- Find your own grounds
- Pay attention to detail, the slightest things make a difference, the way you hook a bait, the weight, freshness, leader material, presentation....
- Stop chasing the reports and following others....Make your own reports - To yourself!
- Every day is a new day, learn something new...
- You cant buy experience on the bookshelves...Many want it easy - every day, they want the fish stacked. i got news for you, Gotta work for it...

This isnt yester-year, stop dreaming of then, this is now.... To many people are stuck in the past and dont change with the times, They Loose..........

John, I hear ya on the kids... I got 2- a 4 year old and a 2 year old and 2 full time jobs, fish smarter and make it count.... Ill sleep when I die...

Now, we can all be like sandman and bitch about how there are no fish...

2 hours in July of 09, 30 fish Limit

MMMMM
interesting thread.When I was 10 I caught lots of fish.When I was 20 I caught more fish than most.When I was 30 I caught more bigger fish than most in more places.When I was 40 I caught more big fish on gear I made in more different places I'd learned. When i was 50 I started landing lots more big fish than most just not where most fished. Well I'm still fishing,learning,catching and releasing more fish than most just now i do it on stuff I make from copying all those experts that I met over the years an reading all those books written by all those blowin their own whistle.Aint no ones fault but mine when I loose a big one an no ones fault but your own for blamin something like fishing for people. Just go out an fish. Enjoy it and you'll catch more fish and fish your own game. You'll catch more fish.LOL I just did a mini seminar. Ron

life is all about choices . You can always choose not to do something, not to buy something, not to listen to someone's opinions. I haven't got time to worry about things like this. Life is too short. I do what I enjoy and how I enjoy doing it. I let others worry about the important stuff.

No.

But it angers me that those companies, especially the big ones based over seas like S. and D., don't do more to invest in the future of the resource.

Invest in what you profit from, HEALTHY FISHERIES! :wall:

Sounds like the book Iron Mike has been threatening to write the past few years.

It's 200 pages long. 199 are blank and on the last page there's a picture of an eel.

First thing I thought of when I started reading this thread.

What ever makes you happy. If a your happy casting with an upside down spinner good for you ...I don't get why so many are concerned whether or not some other guy is or isn't catchin. Would I like to catch 30 fish like CH, yup, would I like to be good at pluggin, yup, the fact is I am content doing my thing and sharing it with a few guys. All that tackle and books tv all has its purpose, not like we're all made of the same mold.

Yeah right eels will solve everything..lol, ok.

Rizzo - it's nice to get down to basics. You're single right. no kids? Enjoy it while you can. On the other hand, there is not much out there better than taking your kid fishing :btu: - Wait until you do that.

You may find it just as nice when the Son takes the Father fishing.

:huh:

I'm with you

No.

Yeah. Someone want to wake me up when it's May? :sleeps:

Rizzo - it's nice to get down to basics. You're single right. no kids? Enjoy it while you can. On the other hand, there is not much out there better than taking your kid fishing :btu: - Wait until you do that.

Hey John - its been a very long time. I actually made it through a fishing season with a steady girlfriend this year! Not married, no kids :buds: But I realize it could eventually be on the way. I think I've finally figured out the right balance...

The way I look at the kids thing, is its a chance to revisit everything I went through and get to see it from a different perspective - It will change things, but hopefully it'll have many positive changes.

Exactly Rizzo :uhuh:
And it takes half a lifetime to be a good striperman, not because of ALL the intense, indepth, super secret time on the water knowledge you have to gather together, its wading through the hip deep BS of info, experts and product sales that gets your head spinning till you dont know whats right anymore.
I bet all you really, I mean REALLY, needed to know to go out and catch large could be written on one side a sheet of paper.

I agree, you go out and try everything, fish all up and down the coast, try it all. You eventually find out less is more!

I had a good convo with a buddy last night about the potential/big catches that have been made in some spots that have never been written about or aren't really known about. Most are afraid to go off on their own and discover new grounds. Most want it easy and get content with what they have and having faith that the good ol' days will come back to where they are fishing. YEARS go by and theyre left with nothing, because things are constantly changing. Its very hard work to keep up with the change from the surf - its easy to see why people keep their hard earned info so guarded.

I guess the better guys out there have learned to push aside media hype and how-to articles and build a confidence of their own. Some of the best I know have lived through the glory days, but when they look back at their catches in recent years, 2000 - 2010, the info and stories they share proves that there still are quality fish to be had in decent numbers, just a different game.

My son said he wanted to become competent surfcaster someday, I told him to forget it - he could become a doctor in less time.
That's what people don't realize - nowadays, the best and the brightest are not in law, medicine and finance, they're in the recreational fishing industry - that's what all the really smart people are doing these days.

I bet all you really, I mean REALLY, needed to know to go out and catch large could be written on one side a sheet of paper.[/QUOTE]



Occam's razor.

Live bait in the dark near rocks and current as often as possible. Chumming helps.
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I love how many here are lost in yester-year and they dont even know what they have in front of them.....
- Give me pogies or give me eels
- Timing tide / wind
- Bite windows can last 15 minutes, .5hours, an hour, 1/4 tide, half tide, whole tide, multiple tides, slack tides, running tides
- The fish are always with or near the bait, those big bodies of fish, those that many dream of, are with sustainable bait supply
- Always go to the fish, the fish dont come to you.. Just because they were there last year, and the year before, doesnt mean they will be there now.
- Stay AWAY from the Crowds! All my biggest hits were done with not a soul in sight!
- Find your own grounds
- Pay attention to detail, the slightest things make a difference, the way you hook a bait, the weight, freshness, leader material, presentation....
- Stop chasing the reports and following others....Make your own reports - To yourself!
- Every day is a new day, learn something new...
- You cant buy experience on the bookshelves...Many want it easy - every day, they want the fish stacked. i got news for you, Gotta work for it...

This isnt yester-year, stop dreaming of then, this is now.... To many people are stuck in the past and dont change with the times, They Loose..........

John, I hear ya on the kids... I got 2- a 4 year old and a 2 year old and 2 full time jobs, fish smarter and make it count.... Ill sleep when I die...

Now, we can all be like sandman and bitch about how there are no fish...

2 hours in July of 09, 30 fish Limit

Good post Ken and I'll add this:

Time on the water trumps all of the above and makes the above possible. In other words, I've spent most of my life chasing bass from boat and shore. The times when it seemed like I had it all dialed in were simply due to fish abundance and my being out there every day to cash in.

There was very little genius involved but there was much personal sacrifice, risk, expense, and sometimes carelessness incurred in an effort to produce weight slips, pictures, and bragging rights.

Glad I got it all out in my 20's before marriage and kids as there's really nothing glorious about pursuing the sport at rabid levels. Its really quite tiring and becomes a rat race you can never seem to step away from.

The good part is the experience gleaned from these efforts gets put to good use in creating good life balance for me now.

Most of my striper heros look back with a certain level of resentment on their heydays and regret many decisions they made all in the name of killing a few more fish for their (alleged) gain.

...That's what people don't realize - nowadays, the best and the brightest are not in law, medicine and finance, they're in the recreational fishing industry - that's what all the really smart people are doing these days.

Geez, Joe, I never thought of that - perhaps the MacArthur Foundation really is looking to grant one of their 'genius' Awards to a fish-head somewhere to further their studies unfettered by financial concerns...:hihi:

Boy, I called this one wrong - I'll have to admit this thread took a turn I never anticipated...:confused:

I've been thinking, maybe Krispy's anger is just the result of a personal epiphany and the pangs of passing through the looking glass into the realm of Zen. Coming to terms with the inevitable paradigm shift is never easy...:smokin:

Or maybe he's just sick of buying worthless fishing crap...:rotf2:

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I've been thinking, maybe Krispy's anger is just the result of a personal epiphany and the pangs of passing through the looking glass into the realm of Zen. Coming to terms with the inevitable paradigm shift is never easy...:smokin:

Or maybe he's just sick of buying worthless fishing crap...:rotf2:

I was going to go into a diatribe on the changing nature of the relationship between retail, wholesale, and marketing and the effect of the modern, anyone can do it marketing mentality thanks to Facebook, online forums, Twitter, easy to use video editing software and all the other tools now available which are probably the reasons everyone feels so heavily pressured all the time (not just in the fishing industry).

But I didn't really care enough and couldn't fully decipher what was actually going on in the thread so a little humor thanks to the Iron Midget seemed more appropriate.

Interesting thread and interesting opinions but there is so much more.

I think some try and simplify what we do which is a mistake. There is so much to learn and it’s not all about the “catching”. There are many out there that know how to catch - but just as many don’t know “why” they’re catching. I’ve been fishing the surf for about 40 years and in that time I’ve met maybe two hands worth of fishermen who IMO truly understand how to consistently take large bass from the surf – all of them had an intimate relationship with the areas they fished regularly and could easily adapt to a new location. They not only knew where and when – but they all took the time to try and uncover the reasons why.

I’ve had fishermen ask me for some guidance about where to fish in Newport or Block – I usually provide them with a baseline of locations and tides. But very few have ever asked me why this spot and why at this time? Those are the questions you need to try and answer and believe me it would take more than one page to list them. This is what I try and convey in some of my writing and seminars.

For example: Interested Surfcaster- “What is the one location I should cast when I go to Block?” DZ – “Fish the bar at SW.” Interested surfcaster – “Great, thanks!”
Follow up question that should be asked but wasn’t: Interested surfcaster – “Why the bar at SW?” DZ – “The bar at SW is a feeding station during the last three hours of the ebb. The current pulls hard right to left and as the water level drops it will allow you to fish all three sides of a cobble bar. Sand eels like to bury in the sandy areas between the cobble. There is a slight drop in the bowl to the north – many times the bass will be stationed on this lip so don’t end your retrieve too soon as the bass will hit just as your lifting your plug out of the water. Sometimes they station on the point of the outer edge of the bar and long casts are needed to reach them so get there early and try to position yourself with a shot at the point. Cast toward the light at Montauk on the left side of the bar – barely retrieve your Gibbs needle – don’t worry it won’t hang up because the pulling current will help keep it skimming the surface, just like a live Atlantic Needlefish. It’s very shallow on that side but the bass will all be pointed in your direction waiting for your needlefish. Strikes can be subtle – if you feel any weight – set! That is how to fish the bar with calm water and no sea. Now if you have a wind from the Northwest….”

You’ll never learn the entire “why question”. I know if I did I would have quit fishing long ago.

How's it going Rizzo!

DZ

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AHA!!! Subliminal advertising!!!

...:laughs:...:laughs:...:laughs:



...But I didn't really care enough and couldn't fully decipher what was actually going on in the thread so a little humor thanks to the Iron Midget seemed more appropriate.

And probably one of the best from the Oracle of Anheiser, Pete...:hihi:

I remember a guy saying once it's just fishing, it's supposed to be fun...:kewl:

Has created a commercial platform that gains from the continued sales of must have products, misinformation, flat out lies to keep its fishermen spending in their attempt achieve the successes of purported guides and mystic sharpie gurus?

wow. i used to agree with that 100%. but i always keep in mind though that as long as "fisherman" voluntarily want to spend money to "get better" or for "must have products" the "striper industry" will grow. a lot of guys make money on that fish via plugs, books, products, you name it...It blows my mind how so much that has been written lately is just echong what was written 30 or more years ago!
But that money goes into our economy one way or another, so really, the "striper industry" is indicative of of any consumer industry in the world. thats why some guy years ago said "let the buyer beware".

How about The Banjo Minnow....any thoughts on their productivity.....the Ads Guarantee Large :huh:

almost everything that you do in life is influenced by a commerical platform (to use your words). why would fishing be any different?

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You’ll never learn the entire “why question”. I know if I did I would have quit fishing long ago.

How's it going Rizzo!

DZ

Hey Dennis - its been a while too! Check your PM!

Shoot, just wanted to get a winter topic going with a little controversy to get it started. 50 replies in 24 hours is pretty good :)
As many people posted, in the end the choices are ours as consumers who to buy from and to whom we listen to. Target large or enjoy a sunrise, to each his own. :gh:

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Grenade+net= catch. PERIOD. Too many "+'s " in your equation. K.I.S.S. (my right arse cheek....its the lucky one)
Mike, every time you post you remind of one of my favorite songs:
What's Up Fat Lip!?
YouTube - FatLip - What's Up Fat Lip? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK_WfF6hf2E)

Man, my truck windows need a thorough cleaning.
I am SURE they need to be cleaned every day. . . it's not safe to be driving around with dirty windows,

I love how many here are lost in yester-year and they dont even know what they have in front of them.....
- Give me pogies or give me eels
- Timing tide / wind
- Bite windows can last 15 minutes, .5hours, an hour, 1/4 tide, half tide, whole tide, multiple tides, slack tides, running tides
- The fish are always with or near the bait, those big bodies of fish, those that many dream of, are with sustainable bait supply
- Always go to the fish, the fish dont come to you.. Just because they were there last year, and the year before, doesnt mean they will be there now.
- Stay AWAY from the Crowds! All my biggest hits were done with not a soul in sight!
- Find your own grounds
- Pay attention to detail, the slightest things make a difference, the way you hook a bait, the weight, freshness, leader material, presentation....
- Stop chasing the reports and following others....Make your own reports - To yourself!
- Every day is a new day, learn something new...
- You cant buy experience on the bookshelves...Many want it easy - every day, they want the fish stacked. i got news for you, Gotta work for it...

This isnt yester-year, stop dreaming of then, this is now.... To many people are stuck in the past and dont change with the times, They Loose..........

John, I hear ya on the kids... I got 2- a 4 year old and a 2 year old and 2 full time jobs, fish smarter and make it count.... Ill sleep when I die...

Now, we can all be like sandman and bitch about how there are no fish...

2 hours in July of 09, 30 fish Limit

Bingo

as a fisherman, you should know that just because the bait is presented, doesn't mean the fish HAS to bite... Be the one that got away...

Well said!!

I absolutely hate it when i sit down at the puter and realaize I have no Popcorn!!!!!!!!

I am relatively new to the whole surfcasting world; just finished what I would qualify as my second full year where I dedicated time and attention to the sport. Heck 3 years ago while on vacation at block for a week, I was fishing at night w/o waders, corkers, or a even a plug bag for that matter. I am kind of thankful for some of the resources that are available to me; some books, some fishing related forums and my fishing club in particular. Those resources really helped me get started.
At first I fell into the habit of buying tons of plugs I didn't know how to use, in tons of color variations. I also bought some rods and reels i don't use or need, but I hope my nieces and nephew will get use out of them. Through trial and error I think I have kind of figured out what I think works best for me (at the moment) and what I feel confident in using. I hope I have gotten past the point of needing to have XXXXXX lure and YYYYYY accessory; and will try to focus on what works for me and continue to learn from my few successes and many failures in the surf.

DZ, thanks for that SW point information, I finally got to fish it this past year, except I was there on the flood tide. Making a mental note on that one.

Kevin

How about The Banjo Minnow....any thoughts on their productivity.....the Ads Guarantee Large :huh:

Ask the OTW staff. A couple months ago they whored out the "Lure of the Month" page for the Banjo Minnow.

Ask the OTW staff. A couple months ago they whored out the "Lure of the Month" page for the Banjo Minnow.


Did they really...Ouch.

DZ, thanks for that SW point information, I finally got to fish it this past year, except I was there on the flood tide. Making a mental note on that one.

Kevin

Kevin,
My pleasure. I'm sure there was some cut and paste activity with that paragraph. Those are optimum tides.... don't ignore the flood.

DZ

Did they really...Ouch.

Yup. I can't imagine what they were thinking or how they expect to be taken seriously when it comes to product reviews.

After that, I'm now expecting at least a quarter-page review in 2010 on the Sham-wow and how useful it is when washing your boat.

Yup. I can't imagine what they were thinking or how they expect to be taken seriously when it comes to product reviews.

After that, I'm now expecting at least a quarter-page review in 2010 on the Sham-wow and how useful it is when washing your boat.

There's a good size ad for the Banjo Minnow in the latest edition of OTW. Hey, they cater to freshwater fishing too, I guess.

Oh, and there was also a ShamWow booth at the RI Saltwater Sportsman show last spring.

I don't know why people knock the Banjo Minnow so badly. When I used to fresh water fish back in college, we used them all the time and they truly were amazing. They would out fish any other artificial we would use (rapalas, power bait, etc). Caught tons of large mouth bass on them.......and they have a kick arse tune that goes with them. I love the banjo minnow.

i agree with redlite. they're just as valid as any soft plastic jerk bait out there. the 7" mackeral looks like it would do pretty well in the salt to me.

Hey Krispy....Please :smash: pass the Garlic Salt

I don't know why people knock the Banjo Minnow so badly. When I used to fresh water fish back in college, we used them all the time and they truly were amazing. They would out fish any other artificial we would use (rapalas, power bait, etc). Caught tons of large mouth bass on them.......and they have a kick arse tune that goes with them. I love the banjo minnow.
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i'm not sure whats so special about them,,,,but

i was out in the boat on a reservoir in hopkinton and doing ok...
i am always lure hunting when i fish as a habit and noticed a soft plastic minow stuck in a bush....

i powered my way in there to get it just for fun....
it was a Banjo minnow...

i through it on my hook and checked out the action close to the boat just for the hell of it and a small bass slammed it.

so i proceeded to really fish the heck out of it and caught 45 more fish ... so i can highly attest to them working just as good as they say they do... and the only reason i quit catching fish on it was because by then it was shredded .....:uhuh: