ya thats right ,the save the striper gang:confused: ,again tryed to stick it up the commerical bass fishermans jazoo, but was told to go home and tie flies ,nice try .. state rep matt patrick (D) falm . and:love: stripers whoever. spokespeep freddie krazsner and alot on main e acks:wall: said that we though the mass lawmakers were asleep :uhuh:and the marine fisheries scientist were full of sh*it so it seamed like a good time to pull a fast one on the mass rec/and comm fish people.:fishin: i was told it was a joke .....thats it like it or leave it....dave laporte.ya i'm back....:fury:

Frankly, I could care less about about the commerials.

Welcome back Dave :grins:

Yeh, you missed some of the arguing in the past few weeks over that.

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I'd rather see our guys get the commercial quota, than have it just go to someone else,that is what would have happened if this thing passed right?

Welcome back Dave.

Yeah, good thing we trust the current regulation authority. Estimated Striped Bass kept is down 75%, but the stocks are healthy.:fury:

just think for a minute......the comm.'s get one million lbs..it's over ,done. no more keeping fish for this year.

now!...what would happen if the same was for rec's..you now have a lisc....every fish you catch an keep must go in your tally book and sent in every three weeks... ok folks only 500 lbs total left to keep for the season....season over..rec;s went over the quota by 13,000 lbs..that comes off next years take....so for the rest of the year it's catch an throw back.

FAIR?...I think so....both sides are now even.The fish get a break from everyone.

[QUOTE=Grapenuts;741168]just think for a minute......the comm.'s get one million lbs..it's over ,done. no more keeping fish for this year.

Wrong. The same commercial license individuals are fishing and killing right along side the so-called recreational fisherman, from spring until fall. Since these commercial fisherman, almost by definition, represent the best bass fishermen participating in the fishery, I submit that these same individuals, as a tiny minority numerically, contribute disproportionally to the so-called "recreational" kill poundage.

Here's how the State of Florida regulates a fishery: Snook: An inshore, highly accessible fish to the public which is good eating. This cold winter has produced a big cold water fish kill which has the scientists concerned for the fish stocks. The State has shut down the snook fishery. Done. No kill. No public hearings. A well organized sport fishery-- no complaints, griping, or wringing of hands in mock anguish.
The fish can be fished; you just cannot keep one. The charters can still fish them with their clients; you just cannot keep one.

How could the State get away with this proactive regulation of an important fishery in advance of a collapse? Simple: snook are a gamefish and there is no commercial commerce of this limited public resource. How did snook become a gamefish over the dead hand of the commercial industry? Answer: Not easily. The snook factory had to be fished and netted to virtual extinction.

I have a lot of friends who commercial fish stripers. It's a huge part of their yearly income, they drop all to go. They're princes among men and I just can't see demonizing them for living in a traditional style. They do as their families have done for generations.
The politicians get involved, misidentify the root problems, and try to put these hardworking people on welfare. People are so far removed from their planet these days it's a wonder that they survive at all...

Dave, I'm really happy to see you back here.

[QUOTE=Grapenuts;741168]just think for a minute......the comm.'s get one million lbs..it's over ,done. no more keeping fish for this year.

Wrong. The same commercial license individuals are fishing and killing right along side the so-called recreational fisherman, from spring until fall. Since these commercial fisherman, almost by definition, represent the best bass fishermen participating in the fishery, I submit that these same individuals, as a tiny minority numerically, contribute disproportionally to the so-called "recreational" kill poundage.

Here's how the State of Florida regulates a fishery: Snook: An inshore, highly accessible fish to the public which is good eating. This cold winter has produced a big cold water fish kill which has the scientists concerned for the fish stocks. The State has shut down the snook fishery. Done. No kill. No public hearings. A well organized sport fishery-- no complaints, griping, or wringing of hands in mock anguish.
The fish can be fished; you just cannot keep one. The charters can still fish them with their clients; you just cannot keep one.

How could the State get away with this proactive regulation of an important fishery in advance of a collapse? Simple: snook are a gamefish and there is no commercial commerce of this limited public resource. How did snook become a gamefish over the dead hand of the commercial industry? Answer: Not easily. The snook factory had to be fished and netted to virtual extinction.

not wrong..... pick..either com. or rec lisc... . Once the quota is up all fish go back in the water..end of story...fish for fun till the next season when it starts again....and charter boats best pick wisely.

if you pick the comm. end of things, you can still fish but you can only keep/sell during the open market season till it closes as it is now...and continue to keep till the rec. quota is full..which wouldn't be a very long season either....after that fish for fun till you drop, but all go back.

Frankly, I could care less about about the commerials.

that was mean

nothing from santa for u this year

just think for a minute......the comm.'s get one million lbs..it's over ,done. no more keeping fish for this year.

now!...what would happen if the same was for rec's..you now have a lisc....every fish you catch an keep must go in your tally book and sent in every three weeks... ok folks only 500 lbs total left to keep for the season....season over..rec;s went over the quota by 13,000 lbs..that comes off next years take....so for the rest of the year it's catch an throw back.

FAIR?...I think so....both sides are now even.The fish get a break from everyone.

ohhhh, this is good

spring and fall runs are catch/release only since those arn't "your" resident fish. u can only keep fish from july 10 till august 25 or until the recreational quota of 10 million lbs is reached. most of these will go tto the charter boats where the rich people can afford 6-800 per trip (about 100$/fish)

oh yea, u rented a house on the cape for the end of august. u save the money all year. your family has been doing this for 40 years. grandfather ,father and now u. u grew up on the beach catching and saving a bass for the big cookout at the end of the week. everyone, including your kids love the tradition. its all they talk about all year.

this year your 8 yr old daughter caught her first keeper, a 30 inch fish. the "season" ended yesterday and in spite of all the tears there will be no bass cookout and no dead fish pics of your daughters first keepa bass (u forgot the camera).

have a nice day:)

this is such a mess. People are going to sit around bickering about this nonsense until stripers are on the brink of endangerment again and we have to institute drastic measures. Sweet we beat another conservation effort from those sissy, annoying environmental gripers. Awesome. I don't really care where the compromise comes from, I'm glad to give up keeping fish if it means I'll have more bass to catch a few years from now, I haven't kept a bass in 2 years and somehow it's still fun. Someone's going to have to give up something in order to help the stripers, I frankly don't care who it is, I'm happy to give up keeping fish for a while and as far as comm fishing goes, new regs are a fact of life for that line of work. I'm not saying we need to ban comm striper fishing but they may need to come to terms with the fact that higher minimums may be necessary and their catch is going to be decreased. If we don't do something, regardless of what it is, there will be few bass for everyone and all the comm fishermen as well as the charters and tackle shops will be out of work with no one to blame but themselves.

The more I dig into the wide wide world of the internet.I find all kinds of information and misinformation. The deeper you dig the stranger it gets.
Some states dept of public healths are raising concerns about letting young children and women who may be pregnant eat any bass at all. Mercury and pcb. What science do you want to believe? Stats can be found to fit any argument(see global warming). I would like to have a more definitive answer to this question, not just relying on our collective PhDs. Smart as we all are.

"Krasner, a rep. for Stripers Forever, said the measures could resurface as an attachment to another bill"

Sure...we can't get it passed on it's own merits so let's attach it to the "be kind to your mother on mothers day bill". Of course the comm's would oppose that too...they have no mothers...they're the spawn of Satan. :devil2::)

"Krasner, a rep. for Stripers Forever, said the measures "be kind to your mother on mothers day bill". Of course the comm's would oppose that too...they have no mothers...they're the spawn of Satan. :devil2::)

thank u i will take that as a complament.....my mother is a horse head seal from momomoy

Stiff Tip...Dave? Don't think I know you but....you are officially on my list of new friends!! Hope you didn't misunderstand "my" position but just in case... File under funny but true...over visiting my dad today and he was telling me that he can't close his left hand very well (bad arthritis;he pre-dates the ancient mariner)...I told him he has until July to get over it or I get a new crew...he tells me he thinks it will be OK..if not he'll duct tape his hand to the foregrip. Hardcore commercial!